at the start of —— mark drake said. at the start of their lockdown is not i think the scientists who are advising all of the governments around the uk and indeed borisjohnson the governments around the uk and indeed boris johnson making decisions around this in this insta nce decisions around this in this instance will hope that within a month you begin to get a sense from the data that the number of people testing positive each day starts to fall and come down considerably, with you then being able to make projections about what that will meana projections about what that will mean a hospital capacity several weeks down the track. clearly, given the lags that we know exist, a couple of weeks between someone being infected and then potentially being infected and then potentially being infected and then potentially being in hospital, a couple of weeks beyond that before the gravest cases end up in intensive care, that they would be able to have some sense by the end of the month that the new cases are within the capacity

drake for between for the 23rd of october on the 9th of november everyone in wales will be required to stay at home. this means working from home if that is possible and the only exceptions will be critical work because i'm jobs where working from home is simply not possible all nonessential retail leisure hospitality and tourism businesses will close it's all right for more on this lockdown and the challenges facing european governments in dealing with a pandemic i want to bring in our political correspondent emmanuel shahs she's here in berlin and the independent health analysts dr john campbell he joins us from carlisle in the u.k. to both of you good to see you dr campbell let me start with you the walk down in wales that they're introducing it is very strict it's going to be 2 weeks intensive do measures like this targeted laser like lockdowns do they work. we know that lock downs were brought in because we saw it working when there was high cases in italy and spain and the u.k. in what we now call the 1st way you've so we know these measures are going to be effective but the p

drake for between for the 23rd of october i'm the 9th of november everyone in wales will be required to stay at home. this means working from home where ever that is possible i'm the only exceptions will be critical workers on jobs where working from home he simply not possible all nonessential retail leisure hospitality and tourism businesses will close all right for more on this lockdown and the challenges facing european governments in dealing with a pandemic i want to bring in our political correspondent emmanuel shahs she's here in berlin and the independent health analysts dr john campbell he joins us from carlisle in the u.k. to both of you good to see you dr campbell let me start with you the lock down in wales that they're introducing it is very strict it's going to be 2 weeks intensive do measures like this targeted laser like lockdowns do they work. we know that lock downs were brought in because we saw it working when there was high cases it's italy and spain and the u.k. in what we now call the 1st wave so we know these measures are going to be effective but the problem

drake for between for the 23rd of october on the 9th of november everyone in wales will be required to stay at home. this means working from home if that is possible and the only exceptions will be critical workers and jobs where will king form home is simply not possible all nonessential retail leisure hospitality and tourism businesses will close all right for more on this lockdown and the challenges facing european governments in dealing with the pandemic i want to bring in our political correspondent emmanuel shant she's here in berlin and the independent health analysts dr john campbell he joins us from carlisle in the u.k. to both of you good to see you dr campbell let me start with you the the lockdown in wales that they're introducing it is very strict it's going to be 2 weeks intensive do measures like this targeted laser like lockdowns do they work. we know that lockdowns were brought in because we saw it working when there was high cases in italy and spain and the u.k. in what we now call the 1st wave so we know these measures are going to be effective but the problem is

mark drake third had always said that if cases continue to rise, a new set of national measures would have to be brought in. he has been in favour as we just mentioned of a circuit breaker, or a fire breaker, for quite some time since sage mentioned it a few weeks ago. the main difference between what will be coming in on friday and what we had in march is actually the difference in schools and impact on children. the guidance on children and the science on children has changed. for under 11 is the risk is low of transmission, the primaries will be going straight back after the first week with the first week being half term. in the second week with high schools, it will just term. in the second week with high schools, it willjust be years seven and eight that will be going back. the other years will continue online and they will not return until the end of this fire breaker lockdown period. childcare will resume as normalfor under period. childcare will resume as normal for under school age people and special schools will also return as normal. when it comes to universities, students

drake for the 1st minister of the devolved didn't stray sion in wales will last 2 weeks starting on friday that coincides with the states who have to break down essential businesses will shots education will largely be shut hospitality of those people will be told to stay home work from home unless they absolutely current and moderate food when he announced this measure said that it was necessary not just to try and control the 2nd wave and to give the national health service a much needed sort of breather edge of a pretty dark anticipated winter but also crucially to provide a moment of restart a reset for the much criticized national test trace and i slight system built by the government here in london of course at a cost of $15000000000.00 it simply doesn't work it hasn't effectively produced the data required on localised outbreaks to be able to deal with and isolate them on a localized basis they won't be any answer to this problem short of a vaccine unless there is an effective test trace and isolate system of the world to try to get on top of that then of course not facing th

drake for between for the 23rd of october on the 9th of november everyone in wales will be required to stay at home. this means working from home where ever that is possible i'm the only exceptions will be critical work on jobs where working from home is simply not possible all nonessential retail leisure hospitality and tourism businesses will close. all right for more on this lockdown and the challenges facing european governments in dealing with a pandemic i want to bring in our political correspondent emmanuel shahs she's here in berlin and the independent health analysts dr john campbell he joins us from carlisle in the u.k. to both of you good to see you dr campbell let me start with you the walk down in wales that they're introducing it is very strict it's going to be 2 weeks intensive do measures like this targeted laser like lockdowns do they work. we know that lock downs were brought in because we saw it working when there was high cases in italy and spain and the u.k. in what we now call the 1st way you've so we know these measures are going to be effective but the proble

one thing that has been perplexing is why mark drake said has said that supermarkets should not be selling items such as clothes. why not? i think it is quite obvious that what we are trying to do is restrict the physical contact. we have to do that because of the terrible nature of this virus which thrives on the human contact. the less time people spendin human contact. the less time people spend in supermarkets the better. obviously people have to buy food. but they don't have to browse around clothing sections. i think it makes good sense and there is an ash issue of parity with small businesses that is very important as well. surely sometimes buying clothes may be essential. what is exactly defined as essential and nonessential? you may say buying alcohol is not essential. there is a list that is not exhaustive but it is there for people and businesses to see. i think people would understand the basic distinction in terms of the supermarkets that people have to eat ona supermarkets that people have to eat on a daily basis, but clothing is a different category, i think people understan

mark drake is expected to make a decision about a full lockdown in wheels that could last between two and three weeks. 1.5 million people in lancashire are now under the highest level of restrictions in england. our reporter luxmy gopal is in blackpool. luxmy, blackpool is the sort of place that will be hit particularly hard by the new rules. blackpool has already been particularly hits. absolutely. these new restrictions that have come into force today, the tier 3 restrictions they strike at the heart of the blackpool economy. pubs and bars having to close unless they serve food, and from monday, bingo halls and casinos will have to shut, as well. if you think about the impact on the economy here, every year tourism and leisure industry is worth around £1.5 billion to blackpool economy. today with these new restrictions they really do take a hit. the leader of blackpool council, the labour leader said that this is not what she wanted but she had no choice but to accept another labour council leader has said they we re labour council leader has said they were bullied, harassed into a

mark drake said warned he would close the border unless boris johnson prevented people from visiting wales from hotspots. boris johnson says the guidance is clear. i will wales correspondence joins us now. does this mean that we won‘t be getting a ban. it means that the welsh government will probably push ahead with the legislation that it says it can enact in order to stop people coming into wales from coronavirus hotspots in england or other parts of the uk. the first minister has written two administrations in scotland and northern ireland repeating this request for travel restrictions. what mark drakeford would like is the same rules that we have in welsh lock downs. lock downs are also lock ins. if you are in a council area under lockdown, you shouldn‘t leave u nless under lockdown, you shouldn‘t leave unless you have a valid reason like work or care. the welsh government believes if this doesn‘t happen to other administrations they could in false a ban here in wales. we have been reporting on the number of cases and deaths in england, how is it looking in wales? the rat