there have been reports not only that volkswagen is considering selling bugatti, but similar reports about lamborghini, that they might ipo the business and it is part of a bigger strategy of volkswagen. they want to slim down their portfolio and get a lot of those higher end brands out of there to focus on the audi, porsche, and volkswagens, but the being a volkswagen is it is the world's largest carmaker and that comes with the kind of resources you would expect for a company like that. anna: we've got other car news we need to talk about and look ahead to. what are we likely to hear from daimler today? they will be addressing investors who want to hear more about electric plans at that carmaker. oliver: just like volkswagen, daimler is undergoing major restructuring and today, we are expecting to hear an update on what direction the restructuring is going to take. the important thing people will be looking for is any update on the electric or hybrid model rollout, and how the talks over job cuts are going. remember, there are talks that almost 20,000 jobs could be on the block as

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talking of other giant companies, we are going to talk about volkswagen. volkswagen returning to profit. we will look at what drove those results, next. there is a bit of a clue. it is china, and it is a big impact. we will about that next. this is bloomberg. -- we will talk about that next. this is bloomberg. ♪ guy: live from london, i am guy johnson alix steel in new york. airbus stopped burning cash in the third quarter, reported earnings that beat estimates earlier today. i spoke to the ceo about the company's plans to wrap up production of its a320 and where it sees the growth coming from. >> we are quite satisfied with the third quarter. we have delivered what we wanted to achieve, which is no longer burning cash, and that is what we have achieved. we think we are in the corridor of expectations. we said to ourselves. i cannot say the worst is behind us, but i can say the plan we have put in place, which we call the adaptation plan is delivering the results we were expecting so far. guy: let's talk about your biggest program, the a320, the narrowbo

even if the joint venture with volkswagen doesn't plan to prove anything for years, it's still very early but the tesla jet, so what's the plan even in the best-case scenario they don't plan to get production rolling until 2024. they need to spend years improving their technology and building out their factories they won't be producing batteries at scale meaning wherg they can be profitable until twiks. that feels very far away unlike nikkei unlike nikola, we got much more reason to believe in quantum scape. in short, i think we found a electric vehicle play that is worth speculating as long as you can get a piece of it at the right price. this is something that seems to always happen with the overhyped spac deals like clock work i wouldn't be surprised if this one still has more downside. at what point should you start picking at it? when the deal was announced in a proforma evaluation. i'm highly skeptical of any seven-year forecasts, but let's assume it's in the right ballpark and the combination of kensington and quantum scape is worth, say, 3.3 billion. normally you divide that by th

coming up a volkswagen recall to tell you about after reports of a fuel problem that can start fires and a 5 week-old kitten is lucky to be alive after her tail and paws were frozen to a truck. how she was rescued by the man who now plans >>it's that time when we check in with news nation on wgn america to see what they're working on for tonight, rob nelson is joining us live from chicago with a preview. hi rob. >>hey there good afternoon a very busy news night ahead on this wednesday. first want to have some live reports from the city of new orleans tonight is hurricane zeta making landfall. this historic hurricane season is striking yet again also tonight a look at the huge surge of early voting happening right now all across the country more than 70 million of us have already cast our ballots want to talk about the records being shattered right now, but also a few problems that some hackers out there have calls already during this election cycle. also tonight keeping an eye on philadelphia and other cities as protests continue after police fatally shot a 27 year-old black man ther

this is a warning from volkswagen. a warning from airbus ripping up the no guidance. only sanofi can give you the confidence that you need, and that is a tenant of the market. shows a different story. nasdaq being battered yesterday 3.7%. the stoxx 50 coming off a five month low. shutdown circuit breaker, whatever narrative you want, do we reflect back on what christine lagarde will give, to us in terms of language and rhetoric relative to actual action? wel it over and look at what did with risk. this is a must read on the bloomberg terminal, it refers to the volatility moment that you are looking something worse than in implosion of the yuan 2015. the dollar drops by zero point 8% this morning as the equity debacle -- there is nothing assured and that. let's talk about the vix spillover, the equity selloff, was it across assets? was it coming for everybody? dani: they were indeed coming for everybody. this locked down sparing nothing. one of the things that makes it unique from earlier in the year, high yield was hit, high-grade corporate credit was hit. some analys

they've been two major corporate scandals, volkswagen and the omission scandal, and in this. executive has gone and done around her. they built up a massive debt whole, they didn't do the correct precautions. instead of going after the company, he tried to go after the company, he tried to go after the ft. so the whole thing was an absolute shocker, and what they're i'iow absolute shocker, and what they're now trying to do... just to make sure that both the reporting procedures and the sovereignty of companies is put under nonrestrictive guidelines. how much ofa nonrestrictive guidelines. how much of a national humiliation is this was blue if everyone is focused on covid and other stuff like that, i wouldn't say it's a national humiliation. it probably should be more of one. there's almost a sense of absorbing corporate scandals. they pledged to sorted out, but the weaknesses are as a result of a slightly excessively relaxed... katy, imf urges rich nations to ramp up katy, imf urges rich nations to ramp up spending. that wasn't the message from rishi sunak today at the virtua

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better appreciation on value compared to real estate companies pay having to protect the forest like volkswagen the world's largest automaker buys carbon credits from her tono to compensate for the emissions put out by its cars neither she nor v.w. are willing to say how much they cost and says discussing prices openly would be damaging to business critics of the trade in carbon emissions say it allows companies to greenwash their image even as they continue to contribute to global warming we always said that going to grow up and let's try to protect the rain forest but the reality is the past 20 years all the rain forests are pretty much gone in certain countries this because we believe that you know research into other uses. paper for human fuel for humanity needs but i think that it's a new model saying that you can still protect the rain forests and make money for the company and also giving benefit the community while protecting the environment then that should be a model going forward. just a few kilometers outside the protected sound the rain forest has disappeared here wildfires tore th

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>> if you ask people in norway apparently they are buying the volkswagen with more demand than all tesla models, but i think the landscape is coming to the foer that's always been an issue. not surprisingly, being skeptical on this story. i read those delivery numbers and headlines as we might get to 500,000. there are delivery, logistics that indicate 500,000 vehicles is not a certainty they talk about how they now have 500,000 in capacity for the model 3 out of fremont and the ev credit numbers are up 2 1/2 times than a year ago. accounts receivable are higher and accounts payable are higher. no denying that the balance sheet issues are off the table if you are counting on the stock to have outperformed in the after market, i think you need to see something more emphatic on delivery. 500,000 being a challenge. they didn't say on the take that they are going to get to 500,000 in my view >> dan, for the next 12 months, a bigger percentage gain for tesla or general motors? >> probably general motors these guys made a lot of great points this is a $400 billion car company. it's up 400% thi

have a better appreciation value compared to real estate companies pay had to protect the forest like volkswagen the world's largest automaker buys carbon credits from her tono to compensate for the emissions put out by its cars neither he nor v.w. are willing to say how much they cost per tonne a sense discussing prices openly would be damaging to business critics of the trade in carbon emissions say it allows companies to greenwash their image even as they continue to contribute to global warming we've always said they're going to grow up and let's try to protect the rainforest but the reality is the past 20 years all the rain forests are pretty much gone in certain countries is because we believe that you know we should convert it into other use it's as a. paper for human fuel for humanity needs but i think. saying that you can still protect the rain forests and make money for the company and also giving benefit the community while protecting the environment then that should be a new model going forward. just a few kilometers outside the protected sound the rain forest has disappeared here wi

tesla was the most valuable automobile company behind volkswagen, daimler, and toyota. now, it is the most valuable automobile company. 400,000 cars produced versus the other three that combined produce 24 million. what could go wrong? i made the mistake of believing this is a car company, but it has become more about narrative the numbers. this is the ultimate story stuck. see above, i have been wrong on this consistently. tom: i remember elizabeth ualloway, scott, and t tulip mania,n the is there an equivalent? scott: you and i are old enough to remember that instead of robinhood, it was e*trade. mnstead of tesla, it was dot-co stocks. it feels things have become so frothy. maybe it is a new economic model. this is beginning to feel eerily reminiscent of 1999. francine: what's a catalyst if we were to be in a bubble? what's the catalyst to burst it? scott: that's a great question. 999, people think it was it was hence of a depression in japan that caused selloffs. everybody is trying to find safe harbor, bulletproof stocks. companies like snowflake trading at 70 or 80

volkswagen, i mentioned the auto sector, vw one of the major companies out of germany, down 2.6%. alix: let's get back to the virus story in the impact on asset classes. joining us is jane foley, fx strategy. of with the virus, i thought we were handling it better, we had better staffing, better equipment, is that narrative just appearing and how much time does that narrative has? jane: i do not think that narrative has disappeared and the question is are we being overwhelmed again? a report says if you wind up in the hospital your outcome is better than it was in march. it helps to have a system to identify different symptoms. our restaurant and businesses are left covid ready. communitynity -- our is much better prepared. this is about a situation where we see so many countries in europe, particularly with the number of virus rising, the number of hospitalizations rising, and the number of restrictions also rising. we immediately have this economic concern people will be more optimistic a few months ago. aren we have to work out the economic forecast of various countries correct

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companies pay having to protect the forest like volkswagen the world's largest automaker buys carbon credits from her trying to compensate for the emissions put out by its cars neither she nor v.w. are willing to say how much they cost per tonne a sense discussing prices openly would be damaging to business critics of the trade in carbon emissions say it allows companies to greenwash their image even as they continue to contribute to global warming we always said that going to grow up and let's try to protect the rain forest for the reality is the past 20 years all the rain forests are pretty much gone and certain countries is because we believe that you know we should convert it into other uses. pulp and paper for human for humanity needs but i think. saying that you can still protect the rain forests and make money for the company and also giving benefit the communities while protecting the environment then that should be a model going forward. just a few kilometers outside the protected zone the rain forest has disappeared here wildfires tore through the area after a prolonged per

imaginary line and when i was 12, my dad took me and my brothers and mom to europe, we camped out of a volkswagen bus, and my dad had been a veteran of world war ii and he was a history student of both wars, and he took us to the line, and for people who don't know much about it, it was built after world war i to prevent a second german invasion of france, and they miscalculated because they built these gunnery emplace.s and the guns did 360 degrees when the planes -- the medieval bareovers these walls, including trump's border wall, are really redickous. you cannot stop -- ridiculous, you cannot the passage of humans whether they fly oover, tunnel under or get a ladder that's two feet taller than whatever barer you build, and i don't know what your favorite visualization is of the idocy of walls but eye asking for it now. >> the line is one of them in addition to the luftwaffe sta story there was an end of the line and hitler troops went into the end of the line and came round and win into france. so i lived in berlin for a we're before the wall dame down and a year after the wall came down and

pandemic crush her enterprising spirit having lost her job in real estate she decided to turn her 969 volkswagen beetle into a flower shop the idea as a hit with the locals in rio's copacabana beach district in the 1st 3 days the florist has made enough to cover a good chunk of the cost of vintage car a rare example of a business booming during these uncertain times. now a strain musician nick cave has been bearing his soul on albums and in concerts for decades the singer songwriter has now turned to different art forms with an exhibition of video installations notebooks and personal artifacts in copenhagen. stranger than kindness the nick cave exhibition is in the basement of the danish royal library in the iconic brecht diamond building in copenhagen the pieces a new spin on. a 1000000 little history propelling souls away at a tremendous rate. welcome to the cave cave a sub to a new network of rooms that provide an insight into russia manic rock star and represent a new artwork reflecting on the nature of identity and creativity. part of the exhibition consists of painstaking reconstructions o

i would go to get a couple .allons of gas in my volkswagen look at where we are today. celebrate and we should invest in the responsibility for managing the spectrum of our energy good , not just one or two .spects of the energy portfolio -- it's not just the department of nuclear energy, but total energy for the united states. is that's very important. ambassador bolton, one point on the international aspect of this. there has not been one climate agreement today including the paris accords that do anything in terms of verification and enforcement. there's a lot of political rhetoric from a lot of places including our friends in europe, but particularly china and india , but if you look at the continuing sources of this problem, it remains countries that make promises and don't fulfill them. until there is something more involved and how these agreements are going to be made workable i think we could do with less rhetoric and more thinking about that issue frankly. a lot of arm waving by china and russia and yet china remains the biggest in midair of carbon in the worl