when they have the chance to do so and joining us now is doctor george rutherford with ucsf thank you for being with us. doctor rutherford. i have a friend a nurse. she says she would the first in line to get the pfizer or the moderna but not so much astrazeneca is that theory steeped in science or knowledge and we'll regular people who live here in the bay area be able to choose the manufacture of their covid vaccine. >>i think it's i think the answer steeped in timing. the astors and a comeback see it is is couple of months off i would guess. i don't think side and i think you're either going to get you're going to get what's what but your provider has if you're a kaiser member for instance, it's going to be what kaiser has we'll just have to go from there. >>here in person you are first in line. i understand to get what would you be reticent at all to get the jab. no not i now believe it. >>it's 68 i i don't have that that much live in left, but i want to make sure i can do it the way i want to do it. >>but there are folks as you the survey i maybe about 60% of people saying they w

>>doctor george rutherford from ucsf thank you again as always for your time and your insight in this and we are all looking forward to and when we can all get the shots and put endemic behind us, thanks again thank near yeah. thank you bye. >>well another big story. we're following tonight despite leaders of their own party having finally congratulated president-elect joe biden on his victory some gop lawmakers are not done trying to overturn the election result today, the senate homeland security committee held a hearing to examine the accusations of voting fraud. the republicans leading that hearing said that it was crucial to look at voting irregularities and pass reforms to prevent any future errors. attorneys for the president's reelection fight were also at the meeting and back to these to the gop efforts but the former head of election security for the trump administration said those senators were spreading misinformation and that it was time to end these unfounded claims president trump has still yet to concede today, he praised those republican senators performances at the h

>>doctor george rutherford from ucsf thank you for your time we appreciate it and we're just trying to hang on hopefully will be over soon thank thank tonight at 5.30 kron 4 always tracking local stories, here's a look at what's going on in your neighborhood. right now on the peninsula, the san mateo county sheriff's department has launched a homicide investigation after a man's body was found yesterday along skyline boulevard it was near quail court. detectives say the unidentified man had been deceased for some time and they're treating it as a homicide because of the quote specific nature of how the body was found skyline boulevard was shut down for several hours between highway 92 in quell coat court rather but has since reopened a warning now from the state's environmental protection agency officials say there are several bodies of water in santa clara county that you should not eat fish from due to high levels of mercury there. >>there are 8 to lakes and waterways that are contaminated we've listed them on the screen take a look. these water, the bodies of located in the west loo

infectious disease expert george rutherford of ucsf says the problems would begin if many months go by and some groups have trouble get shots or a significant number choose not to, leaving us short of the majority needed to reach an overall herd immunity. at that point some worry about vaccine haves and have-notes. >> you are the one that will go to see the giants play and the a's game and go to a restaurant. you are the one that gets to go to the movie theater and that united airlines wants on the plane. >> reporter: an airline trade group is finalizing plans for a vaccine travel pass and the department of defense released images of a vaccine card for recipients. could they be the calling cards of a split society? >> i am not sure i believe in airlines or restaurants doing that. i think that instead, let's get people vaccinated fast as we can. >> reporter: researchers have not determined whether vaccinated people could still be infectious for a time. and she believes that precautions will be critical in the months to come, even with increased pressure to return to normal. >> they just

george rutherford. even in the bay area, which is doing better than the rest of the state. we all need patients and to listen to the experts. >> we need to hold on for a couple of months more. then we will be into the spring. people will start going outside and transmission will drop off from there. that's the way it will play, but it could get bad between now and say february. >> reporter: now joe, you mentioned that the bay area is actually doing better than the rest of the state. so it would lead you to believe that the outlook will be better here? >> reporter: yeah. the bay area, they have done better than the state as a whole throughout this entire pandemic. we will have the higher capacity. but still this spike, it is so dramatic and sharp. we haven't even seen the numbers from thanksgiving, which they're expected to appear later this week. that's why we're seeing these extreme measures, the same affect as this curfew, except all day long. >> right. now remember what that was like. all right, joe, thank you. >>> well, the future isn't looking all that grim as they rep

george rutherford. good to see you. >> pleasure as always. how are you? >> i'm doing just fine. i got to ask you, what went through your mind seeing that video, seeing the people who had richgd their lives for the last nine months there personally getting their protection. >> it's the first half of their dose. it's a two-dose shot. it's an historic day. >> huge movement today on the moderna front. when will that be authorized, do you think, at this pace? >> they're supposed to hear the case on thursday. the fda put up all the briefing documents all of six minutes ago, so i didn't have a chance to read all of them before we got on the air, but i think it's -- i think it will be the same thing they'll see it on thursday and i expect they'll approve it on friday, if possible. >> if that is the case we may start getting it in the bay area when? monday, next week? >> next week, yeah, early next week. >> is that different from pfizer? >> well, the pfizer one didn't look at that as an end point. it did not examine that end point. it may. we just don't know. if moderna sewed that they p

george rutherford and i asked him, what these new covid-19 numbers mean, and if it seems like the spread is beginning to level off. >> what we know is that cases are falling in the bay area, slightly. and that the proportion positive is going down so that speaks to their being less transmission. now that is as of today, you know, there may have been, we may have been transmitting and we just are not seeing the cases yet from over christmas. but i would hope that we will be able to keep up what we are doing, we have some other data that would suggest there really was a bending down the curve, kind of coincident with the shelter in place order on december 6. there is a lack of a couple of weeks and we start to see the effect of it. >> i know the governor released new numbers and i think come you know, infection rate is down, i think positive testing is down, positives are down. what about i see you? >> there is unfortunately a three-week pipe plan, so whoever is infected today is going to show up in icus three weeks from now, or if they will show up, it is three weeks from now, so while we

george rutherford, it couldn't come at a better time. >> we are still experiencing the spike from thanksgiving. hospitals are closing because the icus are filled. >> reporter: none of the vaccines are being shipped to the area this week will be available to the general public. all those doses are earmarked, specifically for those front line healthcare workers. the general public will be able to get a vaccine some time next spring or early next summer. in palo alto katie nielsen, kpix 5. >>> well scientists and experts are working with the state, still reviewing the pfizer vaccine. they will expect to release the group's recommendations within 48 hours. >> tonight santa clara county public health officials are tieing the outbreak to the youth basketball program last month. health officials say it violatedguidelines at the time. three counties have been tied to the unlawful event in placer county. 77 of those cases were reported in santa clara county. that includes dozens of players and all three coaches from the south bay teams. officials say the tournament was indoors. players did not wear mas

george rutherford and i asked him, what these new covid-19 numbers mean, and if it seems like the spread is beginning to level off. >> what we know is that cases are falling in the bay area, slightly. and that the proportion positive is going down so that speaks to their being less transmission. now that is as of today, you know, there may have been, we may have been transmitting and we just are not seeing the cases yet from over christmas. but i would hope that we will be able to keep up what we are doing, we have some other data that would suggest there really was a bending down the curve, kind of coincident with the shelter in place order on december 6. there is a lack of a couple of weeks and we start to see the effect of it. >> i know the governor released

>>you see san francisco infectious disease epidemiologist doctor george rutherford is talking about the speed less than a year in which scientists have come up with a vaccine to fight the coronavirus this is the fruits of all that investment that's been made in. >>molecular biology. for these last, you know several decades. >>with the pfizer and moderna vaccines already being distributed and regulators awaiting proof of how effective astrazeneca's vaccine actually is drug maker novavax is moving into the final stage of testing with its vaccine. rutherford says the more vaccines that are affective the quicker we can reach herd immunity and some type of normalcy. >>get 10% of people vaccinated in by the end of january another 10% by the end of february and so on by the end of july would be pushing up at 70%. so that would be will be relayed seriously good. >>the recent discovery of a new strain of covid-19 in the uk is cause for concern. but medical experts say it's not surprising viruses. mutate all the time that's what their businesses. >>all biological systems mutate all the time. viru

rutherford says. >>the closures will keep people from different households from interacting. he says that's proven successful in places like france and must be done now to succeed it's going to help by stopping transmission by stopping transmission. we stop hospitalizations by stopping hospitalizations. >>we stopped by sea is being saturated by stopping i see is being saturated we cut down on mortality. >>now these new restrictions stay in effect until january 4th restaurant owners say what has to happen if that's going to be the case is the federal government must step in and help small businesses as well as their employees, many of whom are now out of work live in san francisco. dan kerman kron 4 news. >>thank you dan well we are heading into the week now with grim predictions from san francisco's health department director doctor grant colfax who says if these trends continue hospitals in the city will run out of icu beds by december 26 health officials gave the frightening reality check last night

george rutherford means by that is the success of the vaccine will depend on getting it to as many people as possible. >> having the vaccine ready to go is terrific. you've got the logistics and the cold chain worked out, but it's got to get in peoples arms to make a difference. >> reporter: pfizer says its vaccine has 95% efficacy. say around half the test group was given a placebo and then exposed to the virus. in that scenario 100% of the placebo group would get the virus. but for the other half given the actual vaccine and then exposed to the virus only 5% would get covid, 95% would by immune. >> to have a vaccine that has an efficacy of 95%, that's just remarkable. that's as good as our best vaccine. >> reporter: so how many people have to get vaccinated in order to achieve herd immunity? by the way, that's a veterinary term describing what proportion of a herd of animals has to have immunity so the virus has nothing to infect? the virus has a harder time getting to me, and if it does find me it has no place to go. rutherford says we've learned a lot about covid and herd immunity by

george rutherford from ucsf's joining us right now to talk about the next possible phase of restrictions. thank you for taking the time. we have been reporting on it all afternoon, governor news and hinting at another lockdown, how likely is that, is this something we are talking about that is inevitable? >> i don't know come you know, you don't make money guessing with the governor. but i would have to say that this is a very serious situation. it does not appear to be turning around although these things don't turn on a dime. and i think we have to be really careful, and if that means for the restrictions, it means for the restrictions, and will be able to go to school on what is happening in los angeles in santa clara. where there are, where the restrictions are much more taccone and then they are in the city of alameda. but i think it is, it is going to take a little while to figure out exactly what combination of things works best. >> it seems like right now we have just emerged from the thanksgiving holiday weekend, we have not really fully seen the impact of people traveling for t

george rutherford and he says six months from now is a best case scenario. >> it's going to take a while, and 70% of california's 28 million people, and come you know, it's not going to come is not going to happen overnight, it is going to take months to get to that point, and you know, but we would hope that we can, that we could be there sometime during the summer. >> we got this question. once vaccinated does this mean you can still be a carrier and spread to nonvaccinated people? >> unknown. we are putting the studies together now to figure that out once and for all. >> with seven or several backs is likely, what does it matter which receives? >> we only really have the moderna and the pfizer vaccine. they are roughly equivalent, it is not what you can start one finish with another pick you have to take two doses of the same one. but it will be what is available, frankly, and if you go into your doctor's office and they have the pfizer vaccine and you want the moderna vaccine, just get the pfizer vaccine. >> another question, what are some serious side effects that we should be worri

rutherford with ucsf doctor thanks for joining us. so that is the big question. >>a lot of people kind of don't understand is an american company pfizer comes out with the vaccine but we're not the first ones to get it and it's going to th

rutherford says the trump administration's decision not to secure more doses of the pfizer vaccine. >>may not cause too much of a delay because pfizer isn't the only vaccine that will be approved this month. >>don't forget that moderna's coming on as well at the same time with its with its own vaccine with the you know, lots and lots of doses of that between moderna and pfizer. >>plans call for distributing and administering an initial supply of 40 million doses for 20 million americans by the end of the year that leaves about 310 million americans to be vaccinated i would suspect that we're going to get pretty much be able to get most people vaccinated to want to be vaccinated. >>in the second and 3rd quarters so many that from say spring and summer. >>and that could possibly mean a return to normal but the idea here is you need to get about 70% of americans vaccinated to create that herd immunity so the virus cannot continue to be passed on live in san francisco. dan kerman kron 4 news. >>the north face a lot of county is likely to find itself under a stay at home order in the nex

infectious disease expert george rutherford of ucsf says the problems would begin if many months go by and some groups have trouble get shots or a significant number choose not to, leaving us short of the majority needed to reach an overall herd immunity. at that point some worry about vaccine haves and have-notes. >> you are the one that will go to see the giants play and the a's game and go to a restaurant. you are the one that gets to go to the movie theater and that united airlines wants on the plane. >> reporter: an airline trade group is finalizing plans for a vaccine travel pass and the department of defense released images of a vaccine card for recipients. could they be the calling cards of a split society? >> i am not sure i believe in airlines or restaurants doing that. i think that instead, let's get people vaccinated fast as we can. >> reporter: researchers have not determined whether vaccinated people could still be infectious for a time. and she believes that precautions will be critical in the months to come, even with increased pressure to return to normal. >> they just

>>you see san francisco infectious disease for allah just doctor george rutherford says keeping people from different households apart has proven successful in places like france. he says doing it now will slow transmission which will keep hospitals an icy use from being overrun and that will reduce the death toll. >>we saw what happened in new york. you know in march when the icy is we're saturated. people who had treatable say bubble conditions myocardial strokes traffic accidents. diabetic you know acid us all the sorts of things you see and i see is when there is no room at the inn you know that's when the mortality when i went through the roof. so you know that's what we're trying to do an aside only covid mortality but understands everything else mortality as well as to the hospital. >>officials now tell us that we will have to wait and see just what impact this has but they're optimistic we'll have the impact they want restaurants though indicate that the federal government must step in not only to help small businesses but also to help employees many of whom are now out of work

george rutherford says he thinks some people voted against authorization because there wasn't enough data to support giving the vaccines to 16 and 17-year-olds. however, under the plan approved today teens that young would be eligible. >> my impression is that it's really about this lower age of indication. and i'm a pediatrician. i can tell you drugs work the same in 18-year-olds as they do in 16 and 17-year-olds. >> reporter: vaccinations could happen as early as monday, but between now and then a lot has to happen. the fda has to give an approval. then operation warp speed moves into high gear once the cdc signs off. the early doses expected to go to front line medics as hospitals are overwhelmed. >> we have an unthinkable number of covid patients yet to come in the coming weeks. it is unclear to all of us here on the front line how we are going to manage and handle this. >> reporter: dr. rutherford says there is a plan. >> the plans currently use all 337,000 doses for the first des. they're not going to hold back half. >> cheryl, let's go right into that issue with the kids. so w

george rutherford is a professor of epidemiology for ucsf. >> would we be happier with more? of course we'd be happier with more. >> reporter: rutherford said right now a state committee is meeting to make decisions about who will receive the vaccine in the next month and a mav, once frontline health care workers have been vaccinated. >> i really look forward to getting the large majority of people who want to be vaccinated vakdsnated by the summer. >> reporter: in his conversation with governor newsom dr. fauci suggested april could be open season for most to receive the vaccine and that by early fall we could see some sense of normality return. melanie woodrow, abc 7 news. >>> seniors and staff at a walnut creek retirement community got covid-19 vaccinations today. via monte is one of the first senior living homes in northern california to get the vaccine. the center partnered with contra costa county to serve the high risk population. one woman we spoke with said there was no doubt in her mind she had to be vaccinated. >> i was going to take it. because it's important. ed

rutherford is marveling at the fact it took scientists less than a year to come up with an effective vaccine to fight the coronavirus is a combination of 70 years like biology going back to francis crick and james watson and franklin and soon the pfizer and moderna vaccines which are already being administered could be joined by 2 or 3 more. regulators are awaiting proof of how effective astrazeneca's vaccine actually is and drug maker novavax is moving into the final stage of testing of its vaccine rather ford says the more effective vaccines there are the quicker we can reach herd immunity and some form of normalcy get 10% of people vaccinated in by the end of january another 10% by the end of february. >>and so on by the end of july would be pushing up at 70%. so that would be re like seriously. good the recent discovery of a new strain of covid-19 in the uk. >>has raised alarm bells but medical experts say it's common for viruses to mutate their piece of the virus that we're. trying to raise antibodies to is going to be constant across the straits. so that's all good news. >>ruth

rutherford points out pfizer isn't the only game in town. moderna's vaccine will also come online this month. and plans call for distributing and administering an initial supply. >>a 40 million doses for 20 million americans by the end of the year that leaves about 310 million americans to be vaccinated. >>i would suspect that we're going to get pretty much be able to get most people vaccinated to want to be vaccinated in the second and 3rd quarter, so they needed from say spring and summer. >>again the whole idea here is to get about 70% of americans vaccinated that would create herd immunity and then would begin somewhat of a return to normal live in san francisco. dan kerman kron 4 news can't come quickly enough, thank you dan well moraine county has now moved into the state's purple tier on the covid watchlist meeting. >>the virus is now widespread there and everywhere in the bay area purples most restrictive in a new stay at home order. also happen to begin today at noon right now the order set to last until at least january 4th day cou

infessor george rutherford san francisco. let's talk about the market reaction to all of this. vix pickupsaw the earlier on. i'm wondering whether the market is having a few downs this monday morning, whether it should continue to focus on the orure, the vaccine future, the difficulties we all face right now. california is seeing a lockdown. others are likely to follow. michael: we are seeing that shift where growth is outperforming value by about 1% today. plays,e these pandemic probably gaining more sponsorship today. where the reopening clays are becoming covid casualties again, we are seeing more lockdowns. we have a lot coming into year-end. it does not look like much is going to change in january. investors are expressing a modest bit of concern. there is not real fear yet. alix: there is not real fear. it was confusing. california, when they first locked down in march, it was a disaster for the markets. is that mean they had to double down on what positions you had in the recovery trade? michael: i believe in the recovery trade. we expect them to be well into their rollo

>>you see san francisco infectious disease epidemiologist doctor george rutherford is talking about the speed less than a year in which scientists have come up with a vaccine to fight the coronavirus this is the fruits of all that investment that's been made in. >>molecular biology. for these last, you know several decades. >>with the pfizer and moderna vaccines already being distributed and regulators awaiting proof of how effective astrazeneca's vaccine actually is drug maker novavax is moving into the final stage of testing with its vaccine. rutherford says the more vaccines that are affective the quicker we can reach herd immunity and some type of normalcy. >>get 10% of people vaccinated in by the end of january another 10% by the end of february and so on by the end of july would be pushing up at 70%. so that would be will be relayed seriously good. >>the recent discovery of a new strain of covid-19 in the uk is cause for concern. but medical experts say it's not surprising viruses. mutate all the time that's what their businesses. >>all biological systems mutate all the time. viru

george rutherford says ucsf is on standby to get its first doses. >> it's imminent. >> reporter: how soon? very soon says ucsf pharmacy executive desi >> we'll start vaccinating on wednesday. >> reporter: marin county's vaccine shipment scheduled to arrive at the emergency operations center monday has been pushed back until wednesday. >> we've been working with the hospitals, planning, you know, making sure we're ready for this. we wanted to be ready to go as soon as the vaccine arrived, and those plans will be put in place this week. >> reporter: it could be months before the general public gets vaccinated. in the meantime, governor gavin newsom issued this statement. we are calling on all californians to continue doing their part by following local and state guidance, wearing a mask, and staying home. the frontline health care workers will get priority. some are being notified about scheduling an appointment to get the vaccine as soon as it arrives. both ucsf and stanford health say they believe in the vaccine but won't require their employees to get it. in the newsroom, cornell ba

george rutherford. is this going to be exactly like we saw in march or sort of a modified version? >> you know, no, we've learned a lot of stuff. >> reporter: dr. rutherford says a stay-at-home order for purple counties would not necessarily need to include shutting down all outdoor dining and non-essential retail, rather counties may need to reduced and the allowed capacity. >> you can probably keep some retail shopping open that would help out a lot of small businesses. after dining with low density and everybody wearing masks, you know, maybe. >> reporter: and what about schools? >> you could conceive of keeping preschools open and maybe continue to open elementary schools. >> reporter: something else to consider, newsom mentioned deep purple counties. >> deep purple moves in those purple tiered status. >> reporter: suggesting that not all purple counties would be subject to the same restrictions. >> it is basically creating a second tier, fifth tier on top which i don't think is inprudent to do. >> reporter: the silver lining, a vaccine is coming very soon. >> this is not infin

george rutherford is a professor of epidemiology. >> would we be happier with more? of course. >> reporter: he says right now a state committee is meeting to make decisions who will receive the vaccine once front line health care workers will be vaccinated. >> i look forward to getting the large majority of people that want to be vaccinated, vaccinated by the summer. >> reporter: dr. fauci suggested april can be open soon for most to receive the vaccine and that by early fall we could see some sense of normality return. melanie woodro, abc 7 news. >>> this restaurant is supposed to be closed for outdoor dining. the owner explains who they are fighting to stay open for. >> right before the holidays, unemployed workers find their edd accounts frozen, no access to money but there is good news ahead. i'm michael finney. 7 on your side is coming up. >>> i'm spencer christian. thre is a little rain on the way as the old year ends, a lot of rain on the way as the new year begins. keep cosentyx accessible and affordable. if you're taking cosentyx and your insurance or covera

>>you see san francisco infectious disease for allah just doctor george rutherford says keeping people from different households apart has proven successful in places like france. he says doing it now will slow transmission which will keep hospitals in icy use from being overrun and that will reduce the death toll. >>we saw what happened in new york. you know in march when the icy is we're saturated. people who had treatable say bubble conditions myocardial strokes traffic accidents. diabetic you know acid us all the sorts of things you see and i see is when there was no room at the inn you know that's when the mortality when i went through the roof. so you know that's what we're trying to do business on only covid mortality but understands everything else mortality as well as to the hospital system. these new restrictions run through january 4th restaurant tour say the federal government must step in not only to help small businesses. >>but to help employees many of whom are now out of work. in san francisco. dan kerman kron 4 news. >>because of the stay at home order san francisco's

george rutherford of ucsf says the problems would begin if many months go by and some groups still have trouble getting a shot or a significant number choose not to, leaving us short of the majority needed to reach an overall herd immunity. at that point, some worry about a potential scenario of vaccine haves and have-nots. >> and then you're the one that's going to get to see the giants play, you'll get to go to the a's game, you're the one who's going to get to go to a restaurant or the movie theater, you're the one that united airlines will let on the plane. >> reporter: an airline trade group is already finalizing plans for a vaccine travel pass and the department of defense has released an image of a vaccine identification card. >> i'm not sure if i believe in airlines or restaurants doing that. i think instead, let's get people vaccinated as fast as we can. >> reporter: fellow disease expert dr. monica gandhi points out researchers haven't determined whether vaccinated people could still be infectious for a time. she believes precautions will be critical in the months to come, eve

rutherford. >>is marveling at the fact it took scientists less than a year to come up with an effective vaccine to fight the coronavirus is a combination of 70 years meichler biology going back to francis crick and james watson franklin and soon the pfizer and moderna vaccines which are already being administered could be joined by 2 or 3 more. regulators are awaiting proof of how effective astrazeneca's vaccine actually is and drug maker novavax is moving into the final stage of testing of its vaccine recovered says the more effective vaccines there are the quicker we can reach herd immunity and some form of normalcy get 10% of people vaccinated in by the end of a january another 10% by the end of february. >>and so on by the end of july would be pushing up at 70%. so that would be will be really seriously. good. the recent discovery of a new strain of covid-19 in the uk. >>has raised alarm bells but medical experts say it's common for viruses to mutate their piece of the virus that we're. tryin

george rutherford. >> you can probably keep some retail shopping open that would help out a lot of small businesses. after dining with low density and everybody wearing masks, you know, maybe. >> he says counties may have to reduce the allowed capacity for restaurants. as for schools -- >> you could conceive of keeping preschools open and continue to open elementary schools. >> earlier this week governor newsom specifically mentioned restrictions for deep purple tier counties, this suggests not all purple counties would be subject to tighter rules. >>> and endless fight to rebuild and find a home. after losing everything in the recent wildfires, the shocking story showing why our neighbors are still stuck in the ashes. >>> and the white house bribery bombshell. what we're learning about the push to pardon president trump's family members and who might be behind it. >>> and we've talked about how slow this rain season has started since october 1st. let's talk about the entire year from january 1st. we're 25 to 36% of average. we're down nearly 20 inches of rain in places like santa rosa.

george rutherford. is this going to be exactly like we saw in march or modify snd. >> no, we've learned a lot of stuff, right. >> reporter: dr. rutherford says a stay-at-home order for purple counties would not necessarily need to include shutting down all outdoor dining and non-essential retail but counties may need to reduce allowed capacity. >> i think you can keep some retail shopping open that would help out small businesses. outdoor dining with low density and everybody wearing masks, maybe. >> reporter: what about schools? >> could conceive keeping preschools open and continuing to open elementary. >> reporter: something else to consider. newsom mentioned deep purple counties. >> deep purple moves. >> reporter: suggesting not all purple counties would be subject to the same restrictions. >> it is basically creating a second tier, fifth tier on top which i don't think -- i think is not inprudent to do. >> reporter: the silver lining, a vaccine is coming soon. >> this isn't infinite. this has an en

george rutherford calls it a historic moment. more importantly, he says the vaccine will impact the workforce specifically in the icu by lowering absenteeism and decreasing the amount of patients interest being taken in for long-term care facilities who are now prioritized when it comes to immunizations. >> those are two things you will see right off the bat and i think it will at least stabilize and eventually ease the crush on icu beds. >> reporter: governor newsom also said a west coast group of medical professionals have approved the vaccine. ucsf says it is still determining who will go on the list of the first responders and health care workers who are going to receive that first dose. reporting live from ucsf i'm sharon katsuda, "today in the bay." >> thank you, sharon. >>> happening today the electoral college certifies the election results. president trump is still refusing to accept the loss despite dozens of legal losses including in the supreme court. let's go live to washington, d.c., and tracie potts. tracie, any ch

rutherford says the trump administration's decision not to secure more doses of the pfizer vaccine. >>may not cause too much of a delay because pfizer isn't the only vaccine that will be approved this month don't forget that moderna's coming online as well at the same time. >>with its with its own vaccine with the you know, lots and lots of doses of that between moderna and pfizer. >>plans call for distributing and administering an initial supply of 40 million doses for 20 million americans by the end of the year that leaves about 310 million americans to be vaccinated i would suspect that we're going to get pretty much be able to get most people vaccinated to want to be vaccinated. >>in the second and 3rd quarter, so they needed from say spring and summer the goal is to get at least 70% of americans vaccinated that with the create herd immunity. >>us begin the return to normal. in san francisco. dan kerman kron 4 news time now for a look at our 4 zone forecast as we give you a view of downtown san francisco. our chief meteorologist lawrence karnow has actually found the possibility

george rutherford expects promising data early next year. >> the good news from johnson & johnson they've increased their trial up to 40,000 people. you don't do that unless you're expecting a large affect. >> reporter: astrazeneca's efficacy varies depending on dosage but overall data shows it's 70% effective. ucsf infectious disease specialist dr. chin-hong proves it was 50%. >> these are amazing vaccines. you pass the test. >> reporter: for context the measles vaccine and gold standard is 97% effective after two doses. flu vaccine efficacies vary season to season but on average the past ten years flu vaccines have been about 44% effective. >> right now 60% of americans say they will get the vaccine, but we need it to be 70%. hopefully that number will increase. >> eporter: pfizer, moderna and astrazeneca require two doses. pfizer is 52% after the first dose. why is it so important to follow one a second dose? >> if you have low levels of protection there's a theoretical risk of getting resistance in the entire population of covid. the second reason you may get a response after the firs

george rutherford with ucsf calls it a historic moment but, more importantly, the vaccine will impact the workforce, specifically in the icu by lowering absenteeism and decreasing the amount of patients taken in from long-term care facilities who are prioritized when it comes to immunizations. >> those are two things we'll see right off the bat, and i think it will stabilize and eventually ease the crush on icu beds. >> reporter: governor newsom also said over the weekend a west coast group of medical professionals have approved use of the vaccine. now ucsf says it is still determining who will be on the list of health care workers and first responders who will get that first dose. reporting live in san francisco, i'm sharon katsuda, "today in the bay." >> all right, sharon, thank you. >>> we've created a special race for the vaccine section on our website, posting all the stories there. if you're interested to learn more go to nbcbayarea.com/vaccine. >>> 5:03 this morning and a live look in washington and today the electoral college will make it official. the 538 electors will start

>>you see san francisco infectious disease for allah just doctor george rutherford says keeping people from different households apart has proven successful in places like france. he says doing it now will slow transmission which will keep hospitals in icy use from being overrun and that will reduce the death toll. >>we saw what happened in new york. you know in march when the icy is we're saturated. people who had treatable say bubble conditions myocardial infarction strokes traffic accidents. diabetic you know acid us all the sorts of things you see and i see is when there was no room at the inn you know that's when the mortality when i went through the roof, so you know that's what we're trying to do business on only covid mortality but understands everything else mortality as well as to the hospital system. these new restrictions run through january 4th restaurant tour say the federal government must step in not only to help small businesses. >>but to help employees many of whom are now out of work. in san francisco. dan kerman kron 4 news. >>3 new measures are in place to help sma

george rutherford. >> is this going to be exactly like what we saw in march or modified? >> i think we learned a lot of stuff. >> reporter: dr. rutherford said a stay-at-home order for purple counties would not need to include shutting down all outdoor dining and nonessential retail but counties may need to reduce the allowed capacity. >> you can probably keep some retail shopping open that would help out a lot of small businesses. after dining with low density and everybody wearing masks, you know, maybe. >> reporter: and what about schools? >> you could conceive of keeping preschools open and maybe continue to open elementary schools. >> reporter: something else to consider, newsom mentioned deep purple counties. suggesting that not all purple counties would be subject to the same restrictions. >> basically creating a second tier, fifth tier on top which i don't think is inprudent to do. >> reporter: the silver lining, a vaccine is coming very soon. >> this is not infinite. this has an end. this has an end point in it. >> liz kreutz, abc7 news. >>> all right. let's look

george rutherford says right now state health officials are trying to put an emergency break on everything to get a handle on the pandemic. he believes it is appropriate to ban outdoor dining for those counties in the purple tier. >> it's when people start congrega congregate. let's meet our friends. they bring their friends. you have a party of six or eight people. that's when you're going to get into trouble. >> dr. rutherford said california may have been able to reduce its case numbers without banning outdoor dining but no guarantee that would work. not everyone agrees with dr. rutherford including san mateo health officer who said restrictions on outdoor dining could drive people to gather indoors. >>> if you need to drive or take a taxi or uber or lyft you may consider rolling down the windows but did you know the actual window you choose to lower matters? university of massachusetts amherst looks into air flow patterns in moving vehicles. the best way to circulate the air is to have all the windows down. if that's not possible, roll down the two windows that are opposite from the dr

rutherford an infectious disease were just over at ucsf doctor at the 4. thank you for taking the time out to speak with us today. my pleasure. you're saying the bay area won't look as bad as los angeles why do you think we're in better shape than they are. >>well it's you know the simple fact is that where we don't have nearly the volume of transmission that they have they have many chains of transmission going which we don't have. i think we're doing much better there actually some science now if you look for instance at the proportion of positive tests that things are slowing down at least in parts of the bay area like san francisco, maybe not so much and in santa clara county. but there are some early signs that we may be turning the corner on this current search. so i think we may get think there we may be starting to see light at the end of the tunnel. here in the few days that. of course assumes that there's no huge post-christmas search. like there was thanks yeah after thanksgiving. >>when you say chains of transmission and la county has more chai

george rutherford of ucsf says the problems would begin if many months go by and some groups still have trouble getting a shot, or a significant number choose not to, leaving us short of the majority needed to reach an overall herd immunity. at that point, some worry about a potential scenario of vaccine haves and have nots. >> you're the ones get to see the giants play, you're the one who will get to go to the a's game, the one who gets to go to a restaurant and to the movie theater. you're the one that united airlines is going to let on the plane. >> reporter: and airline trade group is finalizing plans for a vaccine travel pass and the department of defense has released images of a vaccination record card for vaccine recipients. could they become the calling cards of a temporarily split society? >> i'm not sure i believe in airlines or restaurants doing that. i think that instead, let's get people vaccinated as fast as we can. >> reporter: fellow ucf infectious disease expert dr. monica gandhi reports researchers haven't determined whether vaccinated people could still be infectious

rutherford points out pfizer isn't the only game in town. vaccine will also come online this month. and plans call for distributing and administering an initial supply, a 40 million doses for 20 million americans by the end of the year. >>that leaves about 310 million americans to be vaccinated. >>i would suspect that we're going to get pretty much be able to get most people vaccinated to want to be vaccinated in the second and 3rd quarters so they needed from say spring and summer the goal is to get at least 70% of americans vaccinated. >>that would create herd immunity invest big in the return to normal. in san francisco. dan kerman kron 4 news. >>another big story tonight, the u.s. supreme court today denied president trump's latest attempt to try to overturn pennsylvania's certification of president elect joe biden the court refused to call into question the certification process in pennsylvania. the governor there tom wolf already certified biden's victory and the state's 20 electors will meet on december 14th to cast their votes for bi

george rutherford of ucsf says the problems would begin if many months go by and some groups still have trouble getting a shot, or a significant number choose not to, leaving us short of the majority needed to reach an overall herd immunity. at that point, some worry about a potential scenario of vaccine haves and have nots. >> you're the ones get to see the giants play, you're the one who will get to go to the a's game, the one who gets to go to a restaurant and to the movie theater. you're the one that united airlines is going to let on the plane. >> reporter: and airline trade group is finalizing plans for a vaccine travel pass and the department of defense has released images of a vaccination record card for vaccine recipients. could they become the calling cards of a temporarily split society? >> i'm not sure i believe in airlines or restaurants doing that. i think that instead, let's get people vaccinated as fast as we can. >> reporter: fellow ucf infectious disease expert dr. monica gandhi reports researchers haven't determined whether vaccinated people could still be infectious

george rutherford is at ucsf and he says right now state health officials are trying to put an emergency break on everything to get a handle on the pandemic and he believes it is appropriate to ban outdoor dining for those counties in the purple tier. >> it's when people start to congrega congregate. let's meet our friends. well, why don't they bring their friends, too. all of a sudden you have a party of six to eight people and that's when you get into trouble. >> dr. rutherford says california may have been able to reduce its case numbers without banning outdoor dining, but there is no guarantee that would have worked. we should note not everyone agrees with dr. rutherford including san mateo health officer who says the restrictions on outdoor dining could drive people to gather indoors. >>> a restaurant owner in lodi said he found this loophole to continue operating. dennis of dennis' country kitchen said his restaurant isn't technically open to the public. he's open just for members charging them $1 a membership. he hopes that this so-called loophole will keep him in business. >> we

rutherford says pfizer is not the only game in town. >>don't forget that moderna's coming online as well at the same time with its with its vaccine with the you know, lots and lots of doses of that. >>doctor rutherford says that he suspects most americans will be vaccinated by spring and summer of next year the goal is to get at least 70% of americans vaccinated so when the vaccine does become available should you get it that could be a difficult decision as we basically know. >>next to nothing about it a south bay family is sharing their story of taking part in the covid-19 vaccine trial and kron four's jonathan mccall learned about their side effects and if they would recommend. we take that vaccine. yeah, you know what thousands of folks doing with this family did they volunteer they had to do so in order to learn more about exactly what this vaccine will do as part of the trials this family says they didn't know if they were actually given the actual pfizer vaccine or a placebo. but the eyes and family says they volunteered in this

>>you see san francisco infectious disease epidemiologist doctor george rutherford is talking about the speed less than a year in which scientists have come up with a vaccine to fight the coronavirus this is the fruits of all that investment that's been made in. >>molecular biology. for these last, you know several decades. >>with the pfizer and moderna vaccines already being distributed and regulators awaiting proof of how effective astrazeneca's vaccine actually is drug maker novavax is moving into the final stage of testing with its vaccine. rutherford says the more vaccines that are affective the quicker we can reach herd immunity and some type of normalcy. >>get 10% of people vaccinated in by the end of a january another 10% by the end of february and so on by the end of july would be pushing up at 70%. so that would be will be really seriously. good. >>the recent discovery of a new strain of covid-19 in the uk is cause for concern. but medical experts say it's not surprising viruses. mutate all the time that's what their businesses. >>all biological systems mutate all the time. vi

hayes, benjamin harrison, 1888, george w. bush in 2000 and donald trump had 2.8 million votes more than hillary clinton in 2016. from philadelphia she is going to vote on election day. sectionit was the only in 2016 that voted for trump. i voted in person. i was born in 1932. i will be 88 years old at the end of the month, the 28th of november. mail and iust the want to vote in person. trust -- i live in a democratic city and state. trusteve you, i don't anyone so that is why i am voting in person. thank you very much. host: clearly a lot of people are trusting mail-in, absentee and early voting. guest: yeah. a trend. obviously our country has different states in different places. in recent years we have united states out west almost 100% voting by mail. other parts of the country are looking more traditional with most voting on election day. i see the trains that many people are voting very early this time. -- the trends. some have decided they want to vote either early in person or on election day. you are very likely to ha

weatherby behaves in 18 2 -- rutherford b hayes in 1876. george w. bush in 2000. 2016, donald trump. anything you want to add to the echo guest: we did have -- you want to add to that? guest: we did have a drought of over 100 years where we did not see the popular vote go in one direction and the electoral college go another direction. that was between 1888 and 2000. i published the first edition of -- the first edition i did just after that. it was thought it would be a rare occurrence. now we have seen it twice in the last 20 years. we did not see in 2020. it is a possibility. it really is a possibility especially if a candidate wins some of the larger states by a large margin as joe biden did in california, as hillary clinton did in california four years ago and other states are won by a close margin. it did not happen this time. generally going forward, the electoral college and the popular vote will be in the same direction but it is a possibility and we have seen it happen a number of times. host: here is jason in south dakota. caller: thank yo