i don't see it but i think he will run initially. >> jonathan allen? >> politicians have a tendency of shamelessness of ego and donald trump has both of those in the extreme. i would pull nothing out in terms of him running again. >> with that, i wish all three of you a wonderful 2021. my wish is a little more normal, a little more boring and made the vaccines be safe and effective. thank you for doing this today. and it back over to you. >> appreciate it. for news junkies everywhere, thank you for that and lightning conversation, it was a good one. >> listen to c-span's podcast, the weekly, this weekend, zach smith with the iowa press citizen joins us to discuss the race in iowa's second congressional district called for republican marionette miller mixed by six votes. the contest will be decided by the house of representatives. c-span, the weekly, where you get your podcast. >> stay with c-span for continuing coverage of the transition of power as president-elect joe biden moves closer to the presidency. with the electoral college votes cast from sta

allen award waning journalist, covers politics. and e-co-authored, shattered, about hillary clinton. and from the dallas morning news, covered elections, including the campaigns of george w. bush and barack obama for president. and columnist for "the washington post", a fine eye for politics. and she began in santonio, her biography of nancy reagan will be insightful about our late first lady. and the panel will be moderated by a correspondent who joined cnn in 2015. a veteran reporter she's profiled presidents george hb bush, george w. bush, jimmy carter, barack obama. jamie, congratulations on your scoop last night former presidents obama, bush and clinton will take the covid-19 as a way to breed confidence in this possible cure. >> thank you so much for having us. can we see everybody just to start? because i'm not-- there you all are. one more, karen. there you go. i am so thrilled to be here with all of you today and i just want to start because john mentioned the lack of a bus this year. so, you know, let me just ask each of

the pentagon responded saying reporting by mike allen, jonathan swan is inaccurate. they suggested a holiday break, the biden administration incoming administration said we have zero interest in a holiday break, they take office in 32 days. this is the reason we needed transition to start early and it is the reason to not take a break in them. i don't know who is lieying and who is telling the truth. the trump administration admits there was some delay in the transition with the defense department. >> you know, there was a lot of concern about him taking over the pentagon, coming over from national counterterrorism center, taking over this multi trillion dollar agency, then using it as a tool of the administration. everyone feared that. let me tell you something, as former senior enlisted man in the armed forces, here's what i have to say. do your job. the united states is literally under attack. all our national cyber infrastructure is under attack. you will be out of a job in 30 days, never to return, so least you could do is defend the constitution the next 30 day