i appreciate your point there, juanita. and i want to play a little something from jim clyburn for the senator. but unity is a concept in politics. and there's reasons for that. unity is not a concept in a murder investigation or a murder trial. we don't speak of unity. because it's irrelevant. either there was a murder and you punish it or -- and i'm a lawyer. if you find that the facts change, the evidence changes, the person you thought was involved wasn't, mitigation, let's deal with the facts. but at no point do you ever say, well, having gone through the murder evidence we do need to talk about unity between the accused murderer and others, whoever they may be. that doesn't compute. that doesn't scan. and so the categories we use in the days ahead i think matter a great deal. and i say that, again, in my role, my job, keeping an open mind if the evidence changes or certain individuals are accused and they are found by a jury that appears to be not guilty, so be it. i'm open to the rule of law. unlike obviously those i

. >> juanita, one of the things that comes through in the call echoes as others have pointed out the ukraine call. it echoes other machinations in the mueller probe. for those who have witnessed donald trump over these four years at times play the role of a bumbling entertainer, reality show star, i listened to the entire call, you know. in the top, you someone who has a very detailed mastery of all of these different numbers and conspiracy theories and things. i note that they're false. but in no way does he sound like someone bumbling into a call he hasn't prepared for. indeed, what may be a legal problem for him, that we're going discuss later in the show, is how intentional and explicit he is, juanita. >> absolutely intentional and explicit. and i listened too, ari. it sounded like he was reading from a script to make sure he got it all right. and he has been rehearsing these lines throughout this entire election cycle. and i even want to rewind back to summer 2016 when he also was interfering elections, asking before and afters to actively nt fear in that election cycle. so this

let me start with you juanita. what do you think is the democrats' best strategy going forward right now? >> i think schumer already laid it out. do it all and do it all quickly. the american public went into the 2020 election with an explicit mandate. we need immediate relief and help in this pandemic. trump needs to be held accountable. there is, not doing it is not an option at this phase. i think an old colleague of mine would always say there is a lot to be done and undone. that is a tone and tenor we're seeing from this senate under schumer's leadership as well as under biden's leadership. the senate absolutely has to do it all and do it quickly. >> before i come to you, michael, juanita, let me get your reaction to this cut from senator mitt romney, republican from utah. here is part of what he said on "fox news sunday" with regard to president biden's call for unity. watch. >> do you see an inherent conflict between calling for unity and a new president pursuing his agenda? >> well, i think it would be unre

i begin with this point with both you have tonight, starting with juanita. what does it mean that those celebrations when trump first loss, that the premise that people felt and believed that of course no matter what he tried to do, and i don't think everyone underestimated what he would have wanted to do, but the premise held, the rule of law held. i wonder your thoughts as reflect on that as well tonight. >> i think it's a reminder about people feeling validated and expressing themselves at the polls. i think it's a reminder about people's faith in the democratic practices and processes which are the underpinning of our nation. i think it's also a reminder of what people expect to have, but didn't expect to be challenged in such a violent way as we saw from trump and white supremacists as they attacked the capitol. i want to emphasize that the attack was not only on the capitol, but on our constitutional practices and on our democracy, because here you have trump demonstrating a reason to really confront that with violence instead of accepting the will of

he says, i feel pretty damn strongly, juanita. i will also tell you this, i'm here to get things done. if all that happens is filibuster after filibuster, roadblock after roadblock, then my opinion may change. this was among our homework for tonight's show, we had this ready and it's exactly the point alex was teaching us. your thoughts? >> honestly, i'm not sure what tester needs to see more of. in fact, not only this moment when mcconnell tries to, as alex says weaponize a procedural moment, look at the past four, six, eight years when mcconnell had leadership and absolutely did nothing but his own agenda, ignored the needs of the american public, ignored the needs of this pandemic, ignored the needs and realities that people are facing in exchange for what? pursuing his judicial plan? mcconnell has already shown everybody his hand. he's already shown how he moves in this body and as he continues to i guess come to terms with the reality that he is now minority leader, he's going to keep kicking and screaming. so, again, i don't

juanita, and george were 91 and 83 respectively. married for 42 years, they met and worked together at nasa's jet propulsion laboratory. over her long career there, juanita rose to become a top level executive assistant. her former boss said she earned the respect and love of everyone she worked with. george had a passion for photography, and was an expert in fiberoptic communication. one of his inventions received an innovations of the 21st century award from nasa. they died just five days apart. may they rest in peace. and may their memories be a blessing. thanks very much for watching. i'll be back tomorrow for a special four-hour edition of "the situation room" starting at 3:00 p.m. eastern. erin burnett "out front" starts right now. >>> thank you. out front next, the nation under siege, a capitol a fortress, and the president of the united states tonight meeting with the ceo of my pillow, and we have a picture of the ceo's notes, including references to election fraud and martial law. and investigators now looking at whether me

i spoke with pastor juanita rasmus about what she calls the crash in her life and what we can all learn about what covid-19 has left us with. cnn, brooklyn, new york. >>> let me ask you a question. how much pressure do you put on yourself to be perfect? >> i have been living out this narrative of be a good girl, work hard, perform well, make yourself valued and valuable by how much you can do, how much you can produce, and so that narrative drove me basically to this place of deep depression. >> that's pastor juanita rasmus, she's been a spiritual director to members of beyonce's family, she's a cancer survivor and author of "learning to be, finding your center after the bottom falls out." she talked to me about what i call the reset. >> covid-19 is inviting us to check out our core values and to see how far we've sailed away from them. >> that is the reset, trying to figure out what our priorities really are here. she's resurrected a 13 ed century practice that we can all today, called the examine. >> at the end of the night the examine invites you to sit at the edge of the bed or in a

times' david louder and juanita is back with us. david, that's one of those other moments that you see where, obviously, it's for more than one audience. they're meeting, as i mentioned, by zoom, but this was day one-type message about what's going to be different from the top on down from what joe biden thought donald trump was leading like. >> well, that's right. i mean, there were two messages. one, as you heard the president say, decency, respect, treating others the way you want to be treated, which sends a very different message from what we've been hearing from the white house the past four years. but the other message is, he's putting his team together, he's getting them assembled and tasking them to begin work right away, on day one. and it's important for the president to be sending that message, because as you were talking about just before the break, the senate may be a little slow for a while, so they need to get executive actions moving. the white house issued a whole series of executive actions yesterday designed to s

joining us elena taurean, and juanita tolliver. ron klain tweeted on -- we are not taking executive act in lieu of legislative action, but to fix what trump broke, within appropriate limits on four crises. why are they on the defensive? i think by the end, it was clear it was a landslide victory on the biden-harris ticket, and they want to be -- why are we seeing some defensiveness on their part about a strategy that clearly comes from the top down and was thought out. >> people are saying, look all of these executive orders, potentially doing reconciliation, that doesn't look like unity. that doesn't look like bipartisanship. i think that's where some of top are getting defensive. we knew he was going to undo a lot of what president trump did with executive order. the healthcare stuff, particular with things that joe biden worked on as vice president were some of the clear things he would do. it's a stickier situation when it comes to coronavirus pandemic relief and the stimulus package. it's something he says he wants to work wit

juanita's remembering his country's failed revolution nearly 10 years ago and what could have been as novel the republic of false truths as drought this year in english. egypt since took to the streets of cairo in january 20th levon hoping to bring about a new egypt they wanted democracy and an end to the mubarak regime. their protest was part of a movement across the region that became known as the arab spring. soon the thousands turned into millions farmers finding common cause with young people found intellectuals such as noted writer allah our last one in the d.w. interview he explained the local residents of the old ruling party are still in power as are the all security forces people are still being arrested and tortured but now we have a voice with the purpose of. 10 years on alice wanny now lives in exile in new york his latest novel the republic of france truths which tells the tale of an unfinished revolution is set to be published in english this april for him the story is far from over i believe that egyptians or lead. in egypt just by the. egyptian. egyptians or leave. eg

joining us now, juanita toliver and reverend al sharpton. rev, i'll start with you. you know jamie. i know jamie. talk about what makes him uniquely qualified to head the dnc. >> jaime harrison is as proven himself to lead the democratic party in south carolina is an excellent fund-raiser and an excellent person that knows how to bridge both the progressive and the moderate wing of the party and is excellent in knowing how to organize and mobilize in the south where the democrats have now began to make some progress and needs to continue that if we're going to see the wins that we saw in '18 and in '20 under our tom perez so i think there couldn't have been a better person than jaime who has the experience and the track record to do what's needed to be done at this time. >> so, tom perez, you got to give him a lot of credit, right? the democrats won the white house, won the house, won the senate during his time there. but jaime harrison has a very different job than tom perez. juanita, what's a successful term for jaime harrison going to look like several years down the road, follow

juanita and with a crack bag straight to jail. that is the criminal justice system that is in some ways criminal. it's true. if we're going to have rule of law you talk about rule of law for poor people? let's have rule of law for rich people. let's have rule of law for wall street if you're going to have it for main street. let's be consistent. what jane austin would have called ethical constancy. the same is true in terms of student loans. i was in santa cruz just yesterday with the students sitting in. increasing tuitions. interest rates for students? still out of control. from the federal reserve the interest rate for almost three years zero. how come banks are treated that way and students treated another way? which group is more important for the future of the country? students or the bank? what are we talking about? warped priorities. not a matter of hating on rich people. some rich folk can choose to do the right thing. right in my view. i'll fight for the right to be wrong. i'm libertarian about these things. but we have

. >> want -- juanita, thank you. >> and the speaker of the house has noted the enemy is already inside the building. homeland security member congressman al green will join us. but first my colleague, richard lui, with the top stories. >>> coronavirus cases now top 26 million. in california, for instance, the death toll hit 40 these, approximately one in every 1,000 residents died from the virus there. protesters are in russia's major city streets for a second state weekend. they want alexei navalny released. he's a political opponent of vladimir putin. president biden pressed putin on the issue during a phone call this week. and steve cohen deactivated his twitter account because of threats sheefsd related to his role in the game stop controversy. he's one of several getting against the retailer. north carolina attorney general reviewing robin hood's decision to stop trading of game stop shares this week. more with reverend al sharpton right after the break. sharpton right after the break. ♪ ♪ comfort in the extreme. the lincoln family of luxury suvs. for skin that never holds you

then jimmy carter who got in office in 1976 and he appointed the first female secretary of commerce, juanita kreps. she was a self-described feminist and took on roxy bolton's cause, through the influence of the united states in 1979, we adopted the system that we all know today where hurricanes are named after men and women on an alternating basis. and if we go through 21 named storms, that's how many storms are on each list. and the names, you get a name after you become a tropical storm, not just a hurricane. so we go through 21 named storms, then we veer into the greek alphabet. who knows, we might make it there this hurricane season if it's on the worst end of what the predictions say might happen. susan: we can only hope that's not the case. eric: yes. susan: your book as you mentioned goes through 500 years of american history of hurricanes all the way back to christopher columbus. we will not have time to cover lots of it. let me pick out a couple of famous names. what was benjamin franklin's contribution to understanding of hurricanes? eric: benjamin franklin was our founding scient

this is juanita. caller: i kind of have -- as with all new presidents, i hope to give president the benefit of the doubt when he started out. it looks as if he has a nice family and so forth. as he began the preliminary debates with the other republican candidates, i became more and more disenchanted by him. he bullied and treated people terribly. this was not a man i wanted to be my president. i don't think things improved any over the years. if other people listen to him claiming he won a major victory and it was fraudulent and he thinks votes were stolen from him. there is violence and also verbal violence. you are intelligent enough to know that this kind of abuse and untrue rhetoric will lead to serious trouble. if you are not smart enough, you better go back and become smart enough. having said all of that, i have very mixed feelings about impeachment. i want there to be secret service and protraction -- protection for melania trump and her son baron. they did not deserve to have all of this bro