that's putin's strategy. as lukashenko did — he antagonises security forces against peaceful protesters, against the civil society. that's already the case in russia — he can't do it worse. that's what we have. that's the reality that we face. and you're right, it's very severe, it's very dangerous. for instance, 300,000 people turned out for the protest onjanuary 23rd, but 30 million watched broadcasts about this protest live, 30 million people followed, so 100 times more. and it actually denotes that among those 30 million that actually would like probably to join this protest, 99 out of 100 are scared. and that's because of the police violence, and that's because of this antagonisation. but if you believe that the security apparatus regards you as the enemy and you have no hope of building bridges or winning some of them over, then it seems to me the more you bring people out onto the streets, as you plan to do over the next few weeks and months, the more likely it is that you're going to plunge russia

putin. is that your strategy now? that is true and he deserves to be ridiculed and humiliated because putin's propaganda has worked hard to build an image of a strategy of geopolitical strategies of a great leader, while he used to have a very unsuccessful career with the secret service. he did much worse than his colleagues, he was not a brilliant spy or something like this and now, we are able to have a look inside his palace. it is also a look inside his head, his mind we saw that it is just a very small man, that of a leprechaun who just wants to have as much gold as possible and that's it. the thing is, the more you personalise this, you make it all about vladimir putin, and it's navalny versus putin. the more the danger surely is that you entrench vladimir putin and you don't actually build an organisation capable of strategic long—term opposition from the grassroots up. what you are doing is building up navalny as this sort of theatrical hero to take on the evil putin, but that isn'

a real threats to vladimir putin that's how commentators are describing kremlin critic alexei navarro the son who is seeing a courageous and charismatic opposition leader or an opportunity fighting a personal vendetta against president putin told russian authorities certainly responded nervously to his recent return to moscow no found he was immediately arrested in turn he put out a documentary film showing a giant colors allegedly belonging to president putin that triggered more claims and counterclaims and violent protests across the country so on to the point we ask in the valley against putin who will win the russian showdown. thanks very much indeed for joining us here on to the point and with me in the studio is stari a sukar choke a freelance reporter and presenter born in russia and based in berlin darrius says novell these investigations and the attack on him have for the 1st time politicised many young people in russia also with us alexander our expert on russia an advisor to the energy giant gazprom he argues that russian society can live with corruption but if the younger

is mobilizing people across the country is a russia free from corruption and putin. video posted on the. graduate explains. why it's elites he has been experiencing ever more of the state's power through arrests and courts trials his popularity is growing especially among the also controversial initially aligns with democratic party. later temporarily on nationalist slogans. he finished 2nd in moscow's 2013 mayoral elections in the 28000 presidential election he was barred from running against putin. 2 years later he was attacked with a nerve presumably by secret agents of the f.s.b. the russian president makes fun of it without. never mentioning his name. if they had wanted to fade. with guns when upon his return from germany where he was treated and he recovered the kremlin critic once again arrested how dangerous can not only still be for the president. of the voice of young russia. i was just wanted to bring up thing is that we're talking about protests on the scale of them and yes it is impressive but right next door to russia they come through which has been pr

i think that vladimir putin _ the vladimir putin? i think that vladimir putin and _ the vladimir putin? i think that vladimir putin and his - the vladimir putin? i think that i vladimir putin and his kleptocratic cronies will be watching with some concern. the main question is whether the protests have momentum, if people who have turned up in these very cold conditions, facing these very cold conditions, facing the truncheons and other threats that the authorities levelled against them, feel that there is more of us this week than last week and it's happening in more places, then there's a chance that the next demonstration is even better and we get this kind of battering ram effect which makes people inside the regime start thinking it's time for things to change. if the demonstrations at the same size as last week or even smaller, people start thinking this is quite risky or even that now isn't the time and they will turn off. that's what we've seen in belarus where there were tremendous pro—democracy protests in the summer and

for good or ill the world is changing our values our cultures are evolving but lead me a putin says it is very important to make sure now that all the people you know that don't benefit haven't benefited from this change that they start benefiting from the change because the last decades of sheed an economic boom around the world but that boom has benefited the one percent more than anyone else the middle class the poor in some respects they've grown poor of they have less opportunity they have less and fewer prospects which is why we have for example a month migration crisis people are fleeing their own countries from where they're from because they have no opportunity fleeing to other countries which exacerbates problems even further and what is that was alton that was older than the rise of populism for example the left and the right above growing more and more radical and people are seeking enemies you know abroad there has been a collapse of international systems the systems that have a government held the world in stability for many many decades and they have led me a putin belie

is mobilizing people across the country is a russia free from corruption and putin. video posted on a. graduate explains how. by its elites he has been experiencing ever more of the state's power through arrests and trials his popularity is growing especially among the he is also controversial initially aligns with democratic party. in the later temporarily on nationalist slogans. he finished 2nd in moscow's 2013 mayoral elections in the presidential election he was barred from running against putin. 2 years later he was attacked with a nerve presumably by secret agents of the f.s.b. the russian president makes fun of it without. for mentioning his name. because if they had wanted to fatally poison him. with guns when upon his return from germany where he was treated and he recovered the kremlin critic once again arrested how dangerous can not only still be for the president. of the voice of young russia. i was just wanted to bring up thing is that we're talking about protests on the scale of them and yes it is impressive but right next door to russia they come throu

i mean whether or not putin is personally corrupt we may have different views on that he has tolerated an incredible amount of corruption in russia and i guess that was probably the biggest surprise when i was still in the u.s. government back in the 2000 when putin came to power i think the one thing that we really expected was he will type of things i mean i think there was a sense in russia that things had become too loose in the 1990 s. too much chaos so he would restore a degree of order but there's also a sense that this is somebody who actually you know crack down on corruption and i don't think we've seen that crime somebody have said it's going to be some some somebody who would who would be he was viewed as an honest lida a man who stood by his word that was the that was always the message around putin there was hope i mean i don't remember. that he'd stop or. but there was hope that something will change that russia will become the western country that so many people hoped for it would in the ninety's and i'm the mass. be cleaned up and we would have a life and it has not co

is mobilizing people across the country is a russia free from corruption and putin. video posted on. the long graduate explains how. he has been experiencing ever more of the state's power through arrests and courts trials his popularity is growing especially among the young but he is also controversial initially aligns with a liberal democratic party. only later temporarily relied on nationalist slogans. he finished 2nd in moscow's 2013 mayoral elections in the 2018 presidential election he was barred from running against putin. 2 years later he was attacked with a nerve presumably by secret agents of the f.s.b. the russian president makes fun of without ever mentioning his name. if they had wanted to fatally poison him. upon his return from germany where he was treated and convert the kremlin critic was again arrested how dangerous. for the president. of the voice of young russia. i was just want to bring up one thing is that we're talking about the scale of them and yes it is impressive but right now. to russia through which has been protesting on the streets sinc

a real threats to vladimir putin that's how commentators are describing kremlin critic alexei navarro the son who is he a courageous and charismatic opposition leader or an opportunist fighting a personal vendetta against president putin. the russian authorities certainly responded nervously to his recent return to moscow an avanti was immediately arrested in turn he put out a documentary film showing a giant colors allegedly belonging to president putin that triggered more claims and counterclaims and violent protests across the country so on to the point we asked in the valley against putin who will win the russian showdown. thanks very much indeed for joining us here on to the point with me in the studio is stari a sukar choke a freelance reporter and presenter born in russia and based in berlin darrius hansen of all these investigations and the attack on him have for the 1st time politicised many young people in russia also with us alexander our expert on russia an advisor to the energy giant gazprom he argues that russian society can live with corruption but if the younger genera

and, "russia without putin." on her way to the protest, mr navalny�*s wife, yulia, was detained by police. so were hundreds of others for taking part in what the authorities called an unsanctioned gathering. for years, the russian authorities made out that alexei navalny had minimal support across the country, that he was in no way a threat to them, but these scenes of riot police and detentions suggest the kremlin is more worried than they've been letting on. in a direct challenge to vladimir putin, whom he accuses of ordering the nerve agent attack on him, alexei navalny returned to russia last weekend and was arrested for an alleged parole violation. russia isn't investigating his poisoning, it's investigating him. the kremlin denies any involvement in the attack. there were pro—navalny rallies across russia today. things heated up in vladivostok. in yakutsk, it was —50, but there were protests here too. but the kremlin rarely gives in to pressure, especially from the street. instead of compromise, expec

for the past two decades that putin has been in power many presidents of parties tried to placate putin in way or another. the biden administration has a chance to begin anew and to make a fresh start and a principle start on russia and learning the lessons the hard way from the previous administrations drawing from the high levels of expertise and drawing less important on the instincts and the views of the new president himself. i want to remind you that back in the spring of 2011 when joe biden was in moscow as vice president he made a very pointed gesture by immediately after his meeting with putin coming to meet the leader of the russian opposition including the late boris nemtsov, very reaganesque in the best sense of the world, reagan met with soviet disdents just after he met with the soviet leadership and it is very important to take that gesture and those words and translate them into action and into policy. among the most important directions that i would name would be, as we already discussed, finally going after that dirty money and enacting those targeted, sanks on key oli

biden and putin spoke today. biden made it clear they are going to work together on issues like new start, while challenging him on issues, including navalny. russians continue to question biden's legitimacy as president. will russia continue to cause more unrest in the u.s. while biden waits for his national security team to be confirmed? masha: joe biden is the first president is the end of the cold war who has not promised as a goal any normalization or improvement of relations with russia. we know that the reality of the situation is that nothing good is going to happen between the relationship between these countries and biden is not singling -- signaling this is an ambition of his. that is a good sign because it is good to see the president telling the truth. nothing good is going to, this relationship. is russia going to continue to metal in u.s. politics if the u.s. lets it? i have never been of the school that donald trump was elected by russia. i think he was elected by americans and russians were able

where possess with putin. all we want to know is what he's thinking, what he wants, what he said, what it means, and then the hero martyrs, why we're not interested, i i hope more peoe are interested and the buyer but because you made interesting that you have an insight as to why we fetishize those extreme? >> it's not just in russia, that's our narrative proclivities anywhere, that going back to greek literature,, the idea to end at the here and clearly defined roles is more digestible and understandable. i'm not sure how particular it is to russia the putin makes it so easy, he such a perfect comic book super villain that it's hard to resist the urge to make every story about it because stories france around him that are so good, so juicy, they sell well and they're fun to write. he makes it too easy. i'm beginning to suspect by design he's happy with that arrangement in his kind of positioning in global geopolitics through that prism. but i'm not sure how particular it is to russia despite, yeah, putin occ

was the owner of a 1000000000 dollar property on the black sea this was denied by putin spokes person. one of only supporters corruption is a major source of a discontent in the clouds to crack down on the movement is they say an attempt to silence them all to the video. this is the i'm fed up with keeping quiet we've been silent for too long and it's probably time to speak that's my position and time to say that we have the right that we have the freedoms and that we have the desire to live in a completely different country. literally may not pose an immediate danger to president clinton's power but economic problems in the country are only going as is the discontent and some analysts believe the kremlin fears the potential of the della reese style mass dissent and the prospect of more protests. sunny day you go out jazeera. all right let's bring in our guests in moscow sergey markov director of the institute for political studies and former member of the russian parliament in london dom until a lecturer in security and development at the department of war studies king's college lond

putin cillizza visa the those who are critically minded in russia. there have been though defections no signs of defections in a very recent duma session have all factions of. the of the duma parties. humana mislay very angrily a very passionately and i would say the area in a jet italy denouncing the now and saying that it was a demonstration of loyalty to the regime i cannot interpret it otherwise if it looked like other lawmakers were competing in eloquence in how else they can the feelie find of are any so there may be differences there probably are differences there may be differences between different agencies law enforcement may be different from the kremlin administration but even if such differences exist we do not have hard evidence for that. sergei let me ask you the u.s. of course has condemned what happened at the protests they've also condemned the arrest of alexei in a volley you've had the e.u. also condemn the disproportionate use of force against protesters how is all this going to affect russia's relationship especially when it com

putin's most vocal critic. scuffles breaking out in some places with protesters beaten and bloodied. demonstrators lobbing snowballs at police. more than 2,600 people were arrested, including navalny's wife and then released. he returned home to handcuffs after months in germany recovering from nerve agent poisoning that nearly killed him. >> has something just changed in russia? >> what we are seeing now is a real change. we are seeing the birth of new -- on new feeling. >> navalny faces an uncertain future and the biden administration called for the immediate release of him and the protesters. sarah harmon, nbc news. >> it's exactly the kind of chaos vladimir putin hoped for in the united states. what this means for the brand-new biden administration. n you got to move the phone in front of you like..like it's a mirror, dad. you know? alright, okay. how's that? is that how you hold a mirror? [ding] power e*trade gives you an award-winning mobile app with powerful, easy-to-use tools and interactive charts to g

>> the putin regime is a mafia state. every single person in the elet's is personally dependent on putin for money and power. that's one of the reasons, for example, that they all contributed to the building of his palace, right. he has them in his grip at all times. so we're not going to see the them coalescing against putin. that kind of analysis is not applicable to this kind of rescream. unfortunately, for the protesters, there are no levers in any existing institutions for the protesters to activate. there's no independent judiciary. there's no parliament. there are even no elet's that could rise up against putin. the protests, i think, are probably best, both sort of hopefully and pessimistically viewed as an investment in russia's post-putin future, which will eventually happen. >> brangham: navalny is claiming what a colleague of yours calls digital guerrilla war. he is popular with young russians but thmajority of russia is older, politically inactive. can navalny reach out to the actual majority of the country?

could he be a force to topple putin? garry: as we speak many of the arrested are facing criminal charges. every indication we will see many unseeded across russia. we have not had the since the early 1990's. that was quite a shock for putin, because after navalny exposed his corruption in one of the most watch movies on youtube, people filled the streets because they wanted to show support for navalny, but to send a message to the kremlin that they are fed up with putin. but putin built a very strong security apparatus over 20 years , and he still has so much money to spend on security power with russia. as long as he is in power, i wouldn't bet on navalny leaving jail being a free man. i have very bad feelings about what to expect. i believe his freedom depends very much on putin's power. the moment putin is weak, navalny has a chance of becoming a free man and taking his proper place as one of the leading members. vonnie: we have to leave it there. that is garry kasparov , renewed democracy project chairman. this is bl

president and putin. cowling to putin. his own intelligence community, when he said this -- >> i have great confidence in my intelligence people, but i will tell you that president putin be was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today. >> trump was swiftly condemned back home denying he took the word of an adversary over word of the cia, nsa, fbi and director of national intelligence, but, of course, he did. that moment was just one that illustrated how soft president trump was on putin whether poisoning of opposition leader alexey navalny or telling the russians classified information inside the oval office or flat out ever refusing to ever directly criticize putin. putin's fifth u.s. presidency, last to acknowledge biden won the election as biden vows to be tough on russia. the two spoke first time since the inauguration and told they discussed arms control and ukraine and a number of other topics. for a preview of what to expect over the next four yes, here is one quote to keep in mind. evan osnos's biden biogr

they did almost almost an hour and this was by the way let me putin's 1st appearance ad davon since 2009 when he was prime minister and perhaps you know it hints at how severe the situation in the world isn't that is what vladimir putin devoted a significant portion of his speech to this crisis that the world is facing today the severity of this crisis it is an upheaval in technology cultural social as well as economic huge disparities in the world that is that is resulting in a systematic collapse the world or the world is run by systems that were built at a different date for different purposes and for different challenges and vladimir putin highlighted the now we're facing a challenge a problem that is unprecedented over the last heart of hearts entrance the 930. percent to leave we've been in can level of lower than 3.2 to a stall and. so that's the kind of misalignment that you see in the world at the college 1000 and demick as i said you need. those issues. the problems of been building up for many years now these evolution revolution in technology and social values in cultural nor

for 30 days he says he's not afraid because truth is on his side in this important election year for putin truth might not be enough to set him free charlie anja al-jazeera. hello again i'm fully back to bill with the headlines on al-jazeera brazil has begun its coverage 1000 vaccine distribution for people in malice the gateway to the amazon rain forest vaccinations can't happen soon enough the health system there is on the verge of collapse and oxygen supplies are critically low china is being at criticized by an independent panel sent to uncover what happened in the early days of the coronavirus outbreak it's interim report says officials could have applied measures more forcefully during the initial outbreak and was on a panel also criticised anyway chose on a response. team which found the route west we will be well only be successful who cleans group areas with the following information conway possession of chinese authorities 1st all stories produced in china on the presence of sars school the 2 related genetic sequence sequences in animals. almost certain results around problems. i

this is that to me putin's 1st speech appearance or that of all since 2009 when he was prime minister and perhaps you know it hints at how severe the situation in the world is and that is what vladimir putin devoted a significant portion of his speech to this crisis that the world is facing today the severity of this crisis it is an upheaval in technology cultural social as well as economic huge disparities in the world that is that is resulting in a systematic collapse and vladimir putin highlighted the now we're facing a challenge a problem that is unprecedented over the last half a hard century since the 930 s. if the 30 percent lived with an income level that lower than $3.00 u.s. dollars a day so that's the kind of misalignment that you can see in the world the cove in $1000.00 pandemic has only exacerbated those issues. the problems of been building up for many years now these evolution revolution in technology and social values in cultural norms in in the economy and led me a putin says that you know the last several decades they've seen an economic boom around the world but th

space for president putin to. have. at least so-called ziering all the constitution and the next presidential told him i'd be he might be afraid but i think that that isn't the case because look and i'm just want to argue with salman for russia just awful this is the. mets are off the. inch on the law and i would like to return to to remind that 2 criminal cases steal hang on. mr natale and this is according to russian law the suit criminal cases should be should be should be somehow. alone and so he might have a good chance a bad chance would like. you would like to do to here that to be brought to. a criminal court and sentenced to prison we might have a tit case is that he says that yes i think a motivated i want to bring you back in mr salvia of you are member of the opposition is there a trend of clamping down on dissent a you worried for your are in safety. well of course doing opposition politics in russia is dangerous thing because doing opposition politics in many of the rich aren't countries that are a dangero

so he is well—known as a front for putin himself. this is bbc news — our top stories... the world health organization warns that an eu decision to impose export controls on coronavirus vaccines risks prolonging the pandemic. after that potential bust—up between britain and the eu — uk ministers say it's time for a re—set in relations. the military in myanmar has promised to abide by the country's constitution, two days after statements from the army commander and a military spokesman appeared to suggest the army was preparing a coup d'etat. the threat prompted international outcry from the un and more than a dozen embassies in the country. here's our south east asia correspondentjonathan head. after days of unnerving sabre rattling, myanmar�*s generals appear to have had second thoughts. in its most recent statement, the military explained the comments by the armed forces commander, general min aung hlaing, had been misunderstood. he had suggested that if the constitution was not being properly followed, in reference to the military�*s repeated complaints about

this is about putin's palace? he says it is| about putin's palace? he says it is nothing to do with him. i about putin's palace? he says it is nothing to do with him.— nothing to do with him. i hope we saw the videos _ nothing to do with him. i hope we saw the videos where _ nothing to do with him. i hope we saw the videos where they - nothing to do with him. i hope we saw the videos where they were l saw the videos where they were teaching — saw the videos where they were teaching people how to say things in english _ teaching people how to say things in english i_ teaching people how to say things in english. i left my passport at the hotel! _ english. i left my passport at the hotel! this is a new modern generation. this is the first time that alexei navalny has been... alexei _ that alexei navalny has been... alexei navalny has been detained before _ alexei navalny has been detained before. 0ur colleague said it is the first time _ before. 0ur colleague said it is the first time he has been imprisoned. we do _ first time he has been imprisone

you always had dissidents, and the putin regime could silence them. this time you have somebody who actually became very popular, and opposition to vladimir putin. and thats why putin is [indiscernible] and as all tyrants, they are not very brave persons. and when they are constructed. confronted with a strong person, they panic. so we have to support him. brent: we appreciate your time and insights tonight, thank you. let's look now at other stories making headlines around the world. germany's foreign minister was in the turkish capital on monday and welcomed turkey's announcement they will seek a diplomatic solution to its dispute with germany's fellow eu state, grace. tensions between turkey and greece almost boiled into conflict last year in disagreements and gas as/and and maritime boundaries in the eastern mediterranean -- gas exploration and boundaries in the eastern mediterranean. gold miners are alive 10 remain unaccounted for, stuck for one week after an explosion. footage from state television showed a note being passed through a rescue sha

as thousands of russians protested against putin for that. there were reports that some of the protesters ahead of the demonstrations got together online and they worked on their english together and worked on their american pronunciation of their english language ability because they plan to tell the riot police in russia that they were americans and plan to claim to be americans in the hopes it might give the kremlin pause about how they would be treated once putin security forces locked them up. they claimed to be americans to call to question with their government of how they should be treated and to raise the alarm internationally. they were going to claim to be americans and put on american accents. all around the world. even in russia after the four bizarre years of trump and putin. pro-democracy, hasn't dictatorship protesters think the united states will take their side and think that we are on their side. and maybe once again we are. maybe we could be once again. after four years the state department does daily briefings now. and no

, putin clearly feels emboldened. he clearly feels like he has enough room to maneuver to do whatever he wants in terms of dealing with international response to it. but how much has the u.s. capability and orientation toward russia changed? how -- do you have any sense of what the new normal will be like between biden and putin? >> well, there are two really important aspects to your question, rachel. in terms of our capability of being the leader of the free world, president trump has done tremendous damage to that. four years of the way he's behaved particularly at home, as we all have seen most recently, makes it very difficult for us to now say, to reclaim the mantle of the leader of the democratic world. number two, president biden, president-elect biden, soon i'll be able to say president biden, he has a very different view with russia. i was in the last meeting he had with vladimir putin in 2011. 30 minutes after that meeting he met with democratic opposition leaders right after that meeting. people like naval

putin said it in public that mr. navalny is assisted by western swintelligee and that a lot of information has been given to him by western services. it's a familiar trick of the kremlin to castigate its opponents as the fifth column supported by the vests, forces seeking regime change and call a revolution in seeking to ultimately topple mr. putin. and by the way, these tactics works. polls time and again show that considerable part of the russian society is convinced and is binding to this narrative. >> julia, you mentioned this was existential for the regime. but the regime also has supporters. and is it fair to say that -- i mean, things can get quite nasty. you could end up with a kind of civil war because the two sides really now have maximalist goals. >> yeah. and we saw this morning a cop in st. petersburg pull his gun on protesters, which seemed, you know, an escalation we haven't seen in these protests and hopefully not a portend of things to come. but i do want to say to your previous question, the thing i

putin's new response this morning. we are live overseas. >>> plus, the challenges, plural, ahead for democrats. why their hopes of convicting former president trump may be all but lost right now. i'm hallie jackson in washington, along with our team covering it from all the angles. kristen welker at the white house, garrett haake on capitol hill, andrea mitchell and keir simmons. andrea, we saw secretary of state tony blinken arriving for his first day on the job. this is a new day for diplomacy in the biden administration i want to play for you the message he had to every single state employee. >> the state department i'm walking into today is not the same one i left four years ago. we at state have a role to play in all of this. and i believe it starts with rebuilding morale and trust. this is a priority for me. >> andrea, what are your sources telling you about the diplomatic attitude now, moving forward in the biden administration, particularly after that phone call, very significant, between president biden and vl

then yesterday, just as he said it would, that call between biden and putin happened. president biden's first call with an adversarial foreign leader. and this time, we didn't have to learn about it from the kremlin first. this time, we learned about it from our own government first. not only did we get that word in advance from the president that it was going to happen, but when the call happened, the white house press secretary provided a summary of the discussion at the white house press briefing, which, hey, is a thing that happens every day now. wow. and then, in addition to that verbal summary of what happened on the call, our government provided a formal, written readout of the call, which says that president biden raised a number of matters of concern with vladimir putin. and i'll tell you in advance, the kremlin also put out their own readout of this call between biden and putin in which they mention none of these matters of concern. in the kremlin readout, they made it sound like biden just called putin to talk about economic cooperation and mutual feelings o

after 20 years of putin's here demanding a change in russia's leadership. i'm making a generation putin i've never known anything else in the but some people reject that i'll die with peyton still in power that is rather strange after all we're not living in the age of the kids are where the rule is stayed in power to the end of their days we want our country to be rewarded in the future by politicians who are elected by the people. but she said this until 3 in fair elections are held in russia she is prepared to continue her 2 steps. russia without fear. for a russian without. this beverage is well something of a national treasure in turkey no it's not it's rocky and it's flavored spirit that has been distilled for centuries but lately iraq as become a luxury item for many turks due to an increase in alcohol tax prices have skyrocketed and more and more turks are turning to look from the black market this can be deadly among the many fatalities is the daughter of. her death is the result of criminals. who groom is still just the way it was when dario left

we get along, i like putin, he likes me. we get along. >> so ambassador, what is it going to be like for vladimir putin to get renormalized without a supplicant american president to deal with? >> it's going to be different. president biden is not going to try to befriend president putin but probably going to get more things done than president donald trump did, including extending new s.a.l.t. treaty. donald trump was in power four years and never got anything done as i remember, in america's national interest. what you saw in the readout, brilliant, having read and written some of them -- which is new in and of itself. didn't get these last four years, but in one paragraph captured what biden wants to do with russia. engage in america's interest, new treaty, contain his belligerent behavior. as you reported earlier. solar winds and ukraine and meddling didn't occur in phone calls and talk about human rights like alexei navalny. that's the new biden strategy vis-a-vis russia. >> for those who don't know what a readout is, y

putin is deeply scared of the international pressure. he might try to put stone-face on himself and may try to appear as a person who does not care, but in fact, he deeply cares about what other leaders think of him, so if it's joe biden or angela merkel, it's really effective when international leaders put pressure on him about political prisoners in russia. >> you told me yesterday that it's been a very emotional time for you this week, especially. one of your partners was arrested and detained. i think she's still detained. we have some video, this is video of her being arrested right there. do you know what her situation is now? >> it's deeply emotional to me, because masha is arrested seriously for the first time since 2012. in 2012, we were arrested and put in -- in the same place where masha is currently. it is not one of the normal arrests happening in russia every day. it's a serious arrest with criminal charges and she is facing two years in jail. which is ultimately my deepest nightmare and instill, up to this day, years after

right after his arrest, navalny dropped a video entitled "putin's palace," tying putin's corruption to his $1.3 billion palace. now, it sounds bad for a government official to have that kind of cash, but remember, putin saves a lot of money on shirts. the video got almost 100 million youtube views in the first week. and it shows over-the-top features like this splendiferous theater with split-level velvet banquette box seats. that would be a tough room to play. "hey, did you hear the one about the president who was so great that everyone loved him? that's my time. please, tip your waiter, and then hunt him for sport in the morning. it's crossbows." the compound also features an elaborate hookah bar with a stage that has a rising stripper pole, a lavish casino, an outdoor greek amphitheater, and this green mound that houses an underground hockey rink with its own helipads. because you can't be traveling phheateryourivate outdoor greek subterranean hockey rink via hovercraft like some animal. but he is really "putin" on the ritz in his insane private apartments, with a massive four-poste

biden is not going to try to be putin's friend. and the rest of his administration is not going to have to whisper to people like me to say, hey, that's not what we really meant. this is our real policy. that will change. and third, he's going to try to bring our allies together so that we have a common front of liberal democracies against putin's russia. all those changes, i think, will be easy and clear in the beginning. the hard part is to get putin to change his ways. that's another matter. that's going to be very difficult even for president biden. >> well, speaking of changing his ways, there's this fbi bulletin within the last few days that says that russia, as well as china and iran -- but they go out of their way to describe what russia has been doing -- has been doing everything they can online to augment the crisis, as represented by the u.s. capitol attack, to augment the divisive claims, to hype more disinformation about the attack. quote, in at least one instance, a russian proxy claimed that antifa members disguised