so even people like susan collins who biden has a close relationship with, she's not there yet. she wants a smaller package. so it goes back to what we were talking about before, will he go for a more ambitious package, the president, or will he try to go for the bipartisanship that he wants. >> and as they do that, the impeachment trial will go ahead. how long will the trial be? how much evidence will the house managers try to bring into the senate trial, meaning how many witnesses will they call, how much video will they use? >> do you expect to have video in the trial and call witnesses, and if so, do you know who they would be? >> i hope you won't hear any of the impeachment managers talking about our trial strategy. >> i will not be previewing the trial. >> i know it's frustrating for you not to hear what our strategy is, but i don't think it would be appropriate at this time to reveal that. >> so it's a bit of a mystery there. on the one hand, jeff zeleny, you get it, right? the house democrats don't want to reveal their cards, eventually they'll figure it out but you want

>> we've heard of a couple other senators, for example, maine's susan collins who says she'll certify the election results in favor of president-elect joe biden, cementing his victory in november. we've heard from texas senator

senator susan collins. she told cnn this, it seems premature to be considering a package of this size and scope. the additional stimulus checks that the president is proposing are not well targeted. if you have a family income in excess of $300,000, the likelihood that you've been harmed significantly by the pandemic is fairly small compared to people who earn their living in the tourism industry. meantime, democrats and at least one left leaning independent are having a very different reaction to biden's stimulus plan. here's senator bernie sanders take. >> look, we're going to push joe -- the president as far as we can. given the fact he's been in office for less than a week, i think he's off to a good start. what we have got to do is recognize that right now we're living in an unprecedented moment in the american history, you've got the pandemic, economic collapse, climate change and crumbling infrastructure and millions of people working for starvation wages. what we have to do is roll up our sleeves an

he isn't the more prominent of the two senators from his state; that's susan collins. he isn't the more prominent of the two independents in the senate; that's bernie sanders. he isn't even the most prominent man named king from his state; that would be stephen, the writer, but angus king is something akin to atticus finch on a harley, a motorcycle- riding, duck-hunting, public- radio-listening straight shooter, unencumbered by party politics. we spoke with him in his office the morning after the assault on the capitol. he was angry with president donald trump. >> king: the first thing that came to my mind was the old quote from hosea the old testament prophet who said, "they who sow the wind shall reap the whirlwind." and the president's been sowing the wind for three or four months, and yesterday we reaped the whirlwind. >> wertheim: you blame the president. >> king: i do. words have consequences, and the-- the higher up you are on the hierarchy, the words have more and more consequences. and the president of the united states has the bully pulpit. >> wertheirm: he a

collins republican senator of maine saying we were on the phone trying to get officials and then said to go home but that is something you think not really defending trumps behavior but instead setting they are making process arguments have are saying you made a most definite pleasure to overturn it. >> we appreciate your reporting we were more at ease on for. thank you for being with best

oh, and susan collins. oh, susan collins. susan, i'm very concerned, susan collins. very concerned but then voted for the worst. almost every time voted right along with this president, but now she's very concerned. she's been very concerned all the time. sitting there telling the bangor daily news while she was sheltered in the white house, i immediately called and texted my closest contact at the white to us to urge that the president immediately tell the rioters to stop their violence and go home. but president donald trump completely undercut that message by repeating his grievances and telling the rioters that he knew how they felt. this was terrible, especially since he incited them in the first place. >> i believe that the president has learned from this case. >> what do you believe the president has learned? >> the president has been impeached. that's a pretty big lesson. >> senator pat toomey says it wasn't just his job to be editor of the president's twitter feed. >> he descended into a level of madness and engaged in activity that was just absolutely unthi

republican senators like mitt romney and susan collins already voicing concerns about the size and the scope of this package. all of this as the second impeachment trial for donald trump looms over everything and takes a major step forward today. later in evening, the house of representatives will deliver the article of impeachment to the senate and two weeks from now the trial begins. clearly most of the focus is on the hill at this very moment for the biden administration. but president biden is rolling out more executive actions today and in this hour he and the vice president kamala harris are meeting with the new defense secretary lloyd austin and mark milley. so where are things headed as we kick off this new week. cnn's john harwood is joining frus the white house and manu raju on the hill. manu, where do things stand with the covid relief package this morning. >> reporter: there is definitely resistance among the republicans in the senate, in order to get the bill through the regular order it would require at least ten republicans to join with 50 democrats to overcome any effor

>> susan collins and i, and we've had conversions with others, as well, are exploring very simple resolution. it would declare the attack on the capitol on january 6th an insurrection against the constitution of the united states. because they were trying to stop us from doing our constitutional duty and counting certified electoral votes. it would find that president trump gave aid and comfort to the insurrectionists who attacked the capitol by preaching a big lie about election fraud and encouragi them to gather in d.c for a wild event and encouraging them to go out and raise hell with congress. and it would then condemn the president for those actions. under the wording of the 14th amendment of the constitution, section 3, anybody who p participates in an insurrection against the constitution or gives aid and comfort to those who do is barred from ever serving in office again. i believe if we were to pass this resolution, it would take a 60-vote threshold, not 67 votes, not two-thirds. we haven't talked to enough people to know yet, could we get to 60, but it's obviously easier than 67. a

governors to overturn the results, but it's the hours that they spent in that room with people like susan collins, republican senator of maine saying that they were on the phone to try to get white house officials to get a trump to tell them to leave and he didn't do that. it took him hours to get to that point where he said to go home and that's something that i think is going to be really problematic for trump's defense and probably why you are seeing a lot of republicans not really defending trump's behavior. they are instead saying they are making process arguments about whether it's a good idea, whether it would divide the country, whether it's constitutional, and very few people are saying you know what, he really won that election and he was within his rights to send the crowd to the capital with the pressure to overturn it. >> host: we appreciate the reporting and we will look forward to more. thanks for being with us. >> anytime. next on c-span a conversation about the impact of former president trump on the republican party and a potential 2024 gop presidential candidates. micha

this is how susan collins justified that then. >> i believe that the president has learned from this case. >> what do you believe the president has learned? >> the president has been impeached. that's a pretty big lesson. there's been criticism by both republican and democratic senators of his call. i believe that he will be much more cautious in the future. >> what do you think susan collins has learned this morning, tony? >> well, that's called -- that's call complicity. and rationalization, which she did throughout his presidency -- has done throughout his presidency. his modus operandi has never changed. it was exactly what he did in the mueller investigation, to deny and to deceive and it will be now and forever he is incapable of change. incapable of change and certainly not now. >> his chief of staff, mark meadows, was on that phone call, at times cheering the president on, we should say, certainly not standing in the way of it. there are these 12 u.s. senators who, as far as we know this morning, still plan to help foster the lunacy that we heard from the president in this ta

there was no moderate republican who would not talk about mitt romney or susan collins who have always been kind of squishy i'm talking about you know a governor of a state who fancies himself a contender for the for the presidency in 2024 to have come out and held the flag to say sorry guys we lost and to take it like real men and women and move on ok biden won the election we're going to fight him to make sure that we don't have a complete democratic over washington we need to fight for those 2 georgia senate seats in georgia of course that didn't happen i think that's you we can argue that all day long whether that whether trump's you would have been like to do a little bit more than expected it doesn't make any way anyway there's a huge there was a huge missed opportunity for somebody to pick up and carry that flag to say guys sometimes you win sometimes you lose this guy unfortunately the biggest loser in a generation is the 1st president 28 years that lost reelection it's really crappy that he was our flag bearer we're going to do better next time and here's what here's my vision

unfavorable bloc in the congress of moderate republicans democrats you look at people like susan collins senator collins or. romney these are the folks that are being rewarded by the biden now palosi and schumer hand in hand coming congressional block these are the folks who are going to be basically forming a a large centrist establishment agenda in the next coming 2 years so you're going to see critics on the left who have completely vanished in the democratic party say that way they're not going to become critic they're not going to rally around a left flank it's not going to happen and i can tell you why but i think more troubling is that the republicans are going to become what they are leaderless they're completely leaderless right now and they're just going to let the moderate republicans have their day within that block and you're going to see a unity and healing process and it's going to be more establishment business as usual you're not going to actually address the crises that our country faced it's not going to address the housing crisis we're not going to get universal healt

collins said he susan collins said he learned a pretty big lesson he was impeached then he brought his it will be wild ride his television show it's $900.00 g.m.t. you without a live from london and on capitol hill an unprecedented session continues politicians are debating whether to impeach president donald trump for a 2nd time a vote on that issue is expected soon let's listen in again most fear january 20 because i think he will try to go out and tell him instead as he's trying right from jay paterno men's time has expired and there will be order in the house that the gentleman from new york preserve such a man from ohio is recognized that i'm speaker statement from the president i urge that there must be no bylaws no lawbreaking no bandolim of any kind this is not what i stand for is not what america stands for i call on all americans to help ease tensions and calm down just put out that statement by the president ited states i yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from virginia. mr klein the gentleman from virginia is recognized for 2 minutes thank you madam speaker and i thank the pr

there is probably going to be an attempt to pick off those moderates -- maybe susan collins, murkowski, romney, maybe others. i'm not sure who the other examples would be, but it is very difficult to get up to six to seven votes, -- 67 votes, or if there is one vacancy, 66. if you can get moderates to side with democrats, maybe that is a good sign for legislation to move forward with the biden administration. maybe it speaks to frustration with trump, but again, it is a really uphill battle in terms of impeachment, getting to that high number of a two thirds majority. francine: we know the president will remain defiant and the last nine days in office. we know he is traveling to texas. what are you expecting from him? to say he isafe likely to remain defiant. there has been all sorts of talk about his wish list for potential pardons. that is probably the top priority. it is a strange time because we are not even getting a lot of guidance on what his daily schedule for -- his daily schedule is, but he will have many calls and many meetings, and that is all the white house is saying in t

one republican senator susan collins says she will see if the bipartisan group on the call can come up with their own plan. meanwhile boris johnson and joe biden struck different tones on their view of a trade deal. the british prime mr. was the first european leader to receive a phone call. the u.k. statement on the call says the two discussed the benefits of a free-trade deal but the u.s. statement did not mention trade. a new trade deal with the u.s. as a top priority with boris johnson. china has now overtaken the u.s. as the largest recipient of foreign direct investment. united nations trait agencies is global investment plunged 42% because of the coronavirus pandemic. the u.s. and europe lost ground while china again. in russia the kremlin downplayed nationwide protest demanding the release of jailed opposition leader alexey navalny. tens of thousands of protesters battled right police in freezing temperatures. they could face charges of mass disorder for taking part. global news 24 hours a day, powered by over 2700 journalists and analysts -- i am karina mitchell. this is bloom

i think it is fair that susan collins got it half right. i think he did learn a lesson. what do you think? >> i think the lesson he learned is he can do these things and basically get away with it. i mean, this is exactly what i think democrats have been warning about all along, which is that this is an emboldened president. he did not learn any lessons, not from the mueller investigation, not from the impeachment proceedings. he then proceeded to have another call that was basically the ukraine call part two in which he tries to strong-arm an official to do something that is either unethical or frankly illegal. look, president trump has never understood the boundaries of legal or ethical behavior, especially in the context of an american democracy, and one of the things the ukraine call was all about was this idea that he could do anything, go to any lengths to get a political up side and that's exactly what is happening now. republicans on capitol hill are basically backing him up in the senate, saying that's okay. it is okay to do that, we're going to have your back.

tom cotton, mitt romney, rob portman, lisa murkowski, and susan collins of maine. if you listen to vice president pence read the oath that new senators take, it is worth noting, the president is leaving in 16 days. republicans like cruz are not. do you take this obligation freely, that you well and faithfully discharge duties of the office upon which you enter so help you god. >> said seemingly without irony as his running mate, president trump, takes aim at the constitution from the oval office, aided by some of the very senators pence swore in. i want to talk with dana bash, cnn chief political correspondent. up until now, dana, we have seen the republican party largely humoring the president in his quest to overturn the election. fair to say he's taken it farther than a lot of them thought he would, also didn't put lines down. i wonder if this call with georgia election officials changes what's going to happen wednesday. >> i was just talking to a senate republican source who said flatly the call doesn't change anything, that people on the side of the president

here's susan collins following impeachment. i want to get your reaction. >> i believe that the president has learned from this case. >> what do you believe the president has learned? >> the president has been impeached. that's a pretty big lesson. there has been criticism by both republican and democratic senators of his call. i believe that he will be much more cautious in the future. >> that turned out to be b.s. amanda. he seemed emboldened. certainly not to have learned a lesson. >> look where we are today. right now there's a legitimate debate over whether the president should be impeached again or maybe indicted. this is not a time for anyone to stand on the sidelines. there's this notion from those in washington that there's no downside in letting donald trump play this out. no downside in objecting because it won't work. there's plenty of downside because we're at the point that the republicans let him go on with this for the last month and a half that tons of republican base voters feel like the election was stolen now

susan collins says she will see if they can come up with their own plan. boris johnson and joe biden, the british prime minister was the first to receive a phone call since the inauguration. the u.s. statement did not mention a free-trade deal. a new deal with the u.s. is a top priority for johnson. the kremlin downplaying calls for the release of alexei navalny. thousands of demonstrators, tens of thousands of protesters gathered in freezing temperatures. they have been warmed they could face -- warned they could face charges of mass disorder. and deutsche bank investigating complaints some employees followed risky investments for clients that did not understand them and then share the profits -- shared the profits. it appears only spain and portugal-based clients were affected. global news 24 hours a day on air and @quicktake on twitter. powered by more than 2700 journalists and analysts in more than 120 countries. much more to come, stay with us. this is bloomberg. ♪ >> we will see in the technology company earnings this week that their power, i expec

i know that biden has reached on to other republicans, including susan collins and rob portman so he is continuing the outreach but the agenda has been very much an aggressive, progressive agenda. he hasn't compromised yet, but he continues to have good relationships with republican leaders at least in the senate. >> great assessment. portman has a chance to be a hero on his way out the door, having announced he is not going to stand for re-election. jon meacham, how is it that the party of margaret chase smith is now the party of marjorie taylor greene? and with each new day, each new big dig in her social media, and we learn something else. in the last 24 hours, she believes it was a jewish funded space laser that started the 2018 wildfire, worst in california history, because it was trying to defoliate for high speed rail. which is how you go about such a thing as far as i know. i know he had some doozies but have we ever had an elective representative in congress this disconnected from reality? that is a high bar. >> i don't think so. and i must say, as an episcopalian, i'm conce

senator joe mentioned, democrat, west virginia, susan collins, centrist, bipartisan problem solvers caucus that put forward the last economic deal, if you look at those individuals, they will be the dealmakers in terms of getting policy across the finish line and that is what i will be looking at. tom: fascinating. on"ing forward to "sound tonight on bloomberg radio. it will be interesting. 5:00 p.m. tonight, bloomberg radio, nationwide. we are going to dovetail markets. michael mckee, moments ago in the world headquarters, will join us near 8:30 a.m. on jobs. on markets and returns, market drawdown, troy joins from skybridge capital. i take great issue with the way media covers hedge funds. we are always looking for people percent.p a jillion you people are expert at studying the middle ground. how to the average hedge fund do last year? troy: they trailed equity markets, somewhere 8-10%, providing good contextual support. if you look at the last four months in particular, equities forward earnings range. most strategies got warmed. corrections in september, october. you have the rally in

collins of may know may know -- maine is not showing bipartisan support. they have this plan mainly backed by democrats, but the impeachment process will kick off next week. in the senate they will have to pass this with all 50 democrats, and that means chrisman manchin elizabeth warren, no margin for error here, but it's clear where they're going. >> next week when they start that process, it will be interesting to see if anything moves by then. >>> house republicans in a bit of turmoil right now. their leader goes to make nice with president trump and the house goes to liz cheney to challenge her. ♪ ♪ 2020's done a new era has begun so keep pushing forward... because this is twenty twenty won make a different future start different at godaddy.com if these beautiful idaho potato recipes are just side dishes, then i'm not a real idaho potato farmer. genuine idaho potatoes not just a side dish anymore. always look for the grown in idaho seal. research shows people remember commercials with nostalgia. so to help you remember that liberty mutual customize

. >> it is not just him, senator susan collins put out a statement last night that said the additional stimulus checks in this $1.9 trillion plan are not well targeted. she pointed out that a family of five bringing in over $300,000 a year could get partial stimulus, not $1,400 but some. and she thinks that doesn't make sense. do they make valid points? >> i think there are going to be some compromising that will occur with respect to joe biden's $1.9 trillion bill. but the numbers in this bill did not just come out of thin air. they are based on identified needs for people in our country to be able to contend with a harm caused by this pandemic. so the extension or the increase in the unemployment insurance benefits, which economists say is probably one of the most important things we could do to get this economy into some form of normalcy. not to mention that we need to get control of this pandemic in order for all of that to happen. >> it sounds like you disagree, though, with senator bernie sanders who said to dana bash yesterday in clear terms, look, if we don't get republican sup

but case in point is republican senator susan collins. i wanted to play what she had to say and, if you will, lessons learned after the impeachment trial. >> i believe that the president has learned from this case. >> what do you believe the president has learned? >> the president has been impeached. that's a pretty big lesson. there has been criticism by both republican and democratic senators of his call. i believe that he will be much more cautious in the future. >> abby, clearly he was not. >> no. obviously not. and that was apparent when susan collins made those comments at that time. but what is even more striking about this moment is that this call with brad raffensperger is basically like a ukraine call part 2. it's the same type of behavior that the president is using, trying to strong arm someone into doing something that is unethical at best or illegal at worst. and it clearly shows that president trump has not been chasened by any of this. in fact, he's been emboldened and you're seeing republicans falling even more in line no

so i do think that we'll put a lot more power with those moderates, with someone like susan collins. i can see her being a true deal maker. >> so let me get to question two and that is tonight there are two senate races in georgia. tomorrow there is the vote to basically count and certify the presidential election results from, among other states, georgia. will senator loeffler or senator purdue, who were part of the old congress, be in the chamber tomorrow when georgia's vote alley come loeffler might be because she's filling in -- >> because it was an election -- >> she's still a senator >> loeffler has said she will support the president's objections in states that are deemed to be unsatisfactory. >> thanks. good to see you. happy new year >> as the stakes in these two incredibly contentious races are so high, candidates have been doing whatever they can to reach potential voters and that is including streaming while playing games on twitch. josh lipton joins us now with more >> so twitch is the video streaming site owned by amazon it's where people go to watch other people play v

there are eight republicans, susan collins, rob portman and bill cassidy is involved, he's a doctor and eight democrats, i am told they will have a phone call this weekend with white house economic adviser over what the package could look like and the potential for bipartisan support. but some democrats are warning they don't want to spend months haggling over this this afternoon, i asked sherrod brown if he would compromise on the size and scope of the package if it meant getting republicans on board here's what he told me. >> i am hopeful republicans will want to go big, too. that's what the election was all about. that's why president biden wants to go big. i am there to do the same thing. >> reporter: so, shepp, no one is expecting a kumbaya moment, everyone expects to get along for now. >> where are they in confirming the president's cabinet nominees >> reporter: well, shepp, the senate voted tonight to grant a waiver to general lloyd austin to serve as defense secretary even though he retired from the military four years ago. this passes with overwhelming support from both republi

. >> it reminds me of what susan collins said after the first time president trump was impeached, margaret. >> well, that's because she said the exact same thing. and look. even at that point it was clear that donald trump would never learn the lesson. i mean, his job is to double down and to do whatever he can and that he can get away with. and the law, the constitution, the rules, none of it apply to him. we all know that. what we didn't know and some people say they did and i think my husband warned of this for a long time but many, many republicans, myself to a degree included, never realized or expected that it would come to what we saw this week. and i tell you, susan collins didn't think that in 2020 but for roy blunt at this point, it is just unexcusable. it is choosing to live in denial in a way that is no longer defensible. >> it does feel like he is putting his head in the sand. i want you to look at this new interview with nancy pelosi taped with "60 minutes" and listen as she lays out her case for why president trump needs to go. >> what if he pardons himself? >> what if he pa

how do you feel now, susan collins? huh? what lesson did he learn? that is exactly what he was impeached for. remember when fiona hill testified, john bolton refused to get involved in the drug deal that was their quote, drug deal the president's men were cooking up? >> you tell eisen berg ambassador bolton told me, i am not part of this, whatever drug deal that mulvaney and sunday lundqvi sunland are cooking up. >> rudy giuliani and trump are cooking up this deal again. he blasted the idea that ukraine interfered in our election. >> some of you on this committee appear to believe that russia and its security services did not conduct a campaign against our country and that perhaps somehow for some reason ukraine did. this is a fictional narrative that is being perpetrated and propagated by the russian security services themselves. the unfortunate truth is that russia was the foreign power that systematically attacked our democratic institutions in 2016. this is the public conclusion of our intelligence agencies, confirmed in bipartisan congressional

susan collins is right in setting that. we should take that advice on a bipartisan basis and make the change. if we can make that kind of change and bring together some republican support for this, all the better. but more importantly, we've got to do the right thing for the american people and do it quickly. we've got to get the vaccine out on the road. look at my own state, many other states desperate for more vaccine. let's get that done. let's put the money on the table and make sure that that vaccine is going to save lives across america. >> senator dick durbin, thank you for your time this morning. nice to have you. >> notable conversation there. as the nation tries to forge past hiccups, obstacles in the vaccine rollout, west virginia quickly became a benchmark for how to do it right. how did they do it? cnn will take a closer look. hey, dad! hey, son! no dad, it's a video call. you got to move the phone in front of you like..like it's a mirror, dad. you know? alright, okay. how's that? is that how you hold a mirror?

senator susan collins is one of them. she says she doesn't see a need for a bill right now. they just passed 900 billion. what is the expectation that's going to come out of this meeting? >> well, victor, i think the expectation is that joe biden is going to have a choice between trying to get the kind of scale of bipartisan support that he wants for his agenda and that he believes is politically important for his agenda and actually getting the full slate of items he wants passed in his agenda. you heard from lindsey graham a hint as to how things might proceed, it's possible they will end up doing a smaller bipartisan covid relief bill sooner, and then have some. bigger-ticket in terms of the dollar figure items pushed into a second bill that democrats could pass through a reconciliation, the budget process that only requires a simple majority of the senate, which democrats obviously have at this point. look, the political bet on the biden side is that it's all well and good for republicans to talk about the price tag in the abstract and $1.9 trillion certainly does sound

>>mitt romney and susan collins solidly on his side at this point what does that bode for trying to get more conservative republicans to sign off on this. >>it's there it's early jury and james it's it's still early in the process. there's a little you know i mean i'm going to play hard to get. you these are people who normally would want to do something there's going to be some horse trading. the number may come down to 91001.7 or they may decide differently had allocated remember the language of over the last bill was all about how is going to be spent to basically the trump administration we're trying to not spend it at all which is why you have the standoff with the speaker this will be something different this will be targeted again. and it may go back to good old days that that the job i know is which horse trading which is. you know that thing i need a new tide really like that included and there you go you get a vote. >>but the horse trading like would it involve complete. you know impeachment. rioters just few short ok, so it's not it's got good not going to be like that kind o

susan collins said, do the math here, you need at least 17 republicans in order to convict. the numbers just aren't there. and republicans wanted this delay, this two-week-long delay in order to give president trump time to prepare for his defense. he's waking up without a defense team as democrats are working to build their case, they're still pressing forward with this. they said this is about holding donald trump accountable. >> mary, mitch mcconnell had signaled his openness to convict trump, behe voted against even holding the trial. is there any chance he now supports conviction and what does this say about him going forward? >> well, it says there isn't a really good chance here, that it's certainly not a good sign for those who are holding out hopes that republicans may join democrats in voting to convict the former president. mcconnell has been interesting to watch over the last couple weeks. he came out very sharply saying the president flatly provoked the mob, the violent mob that stormed the capitol. he said the former president fed lies to his supporters, we kne

some are pushing back, including susan collins and mitt romney. if he can't get those two, realistically, how can he get any republicans? >>> they are later going to lift a travel ban president trump tried to lift going out the door. there is more about the new variants. >>> in hours, they will deliver the articles of impeachment against president trump to the senate. the second impeachment trial is scheduled to start in two weeks. a number of senators now opposing that trial is growing. we are also learning stunling new details how donald trump tried to use the department of justice to overturn his election law. just into cnn, two new arrivals at the white house. this is your pet cast. chance and major. these are the biden's german sheppards. they moved in over the weekend. they were told chance responded to the bed near the fireplace and major enjoys runs across the south lawn. >> she likes pin na cola das. >> they sound perfect for each other. >> jeremy dimon has the latest. >> reporter: five days after joe bide

be considering a package of this size and scope.” >> seth: i'm sorry, susan collins, it's premature? you want to wait a little longer and see how much worse things can get? this is like if the steelers waited a couple more weeks to find a running game. okay, okay, now i -- now i get why my wife bought those headphones i just heard it. i just heard it for the first time seriously, when would be the right time to maybe start thinking about considering possibly doing something eventually about the highly infectious virus rapidly spreading across the country, overwhelming hospitals and forcing millions out of work when would be a good time for you? getting these people to do something about a national crisis is like getting verizon to come set up your fios “we could pencil you in sometim between 9:00 a.m. and 6:7th, 20. would that work? can you give us your address so the technician can go to a different house?” the republican party has learned nothing. and it has not changed it's still the party that elected donald trump and stood by him as he attempted to foment sedition it's the s

collins said after the first impeachment, kendis, senator susan collins being that moderate republican who said, no, i'm not going to convict, the thing she said was that this president had learned his lesson and let's all move on. what we're seeing here is that that was very much not true. the question here is how other republicans are going to react to this. are other republicans going to say, okay, enough is enough, because right now we still believe based on some of the counts that we're seeing and the comments that we're seeing out of the senate that there would not be the 17 votes needed to convict. so all of this is an example as well of new information that may continue to come to light during this two-week period before the trial actually takes place the week of february 8th in the senate, guys. >> heidi, i do want to get you to go through what happens with impeachment, but i want them to pop up chuck schumer's reaction, it was actually a tweet that he put out and it was pretty damning. he says, unconscionable, a trump justice department leader would conspire to subvert the pe

so if joe biden can't get susan collins and mitt romney, how on earth will he get to the ten republicans he wants this to pass this in a bipartisan way? democrats this morning laying the groundwork to do it without republicans if necessary. this morning, we have brand-new details about where these negotiations stand. later today, pedesresident bide will reinstate and expand president trump travel restrictions that president trump tried to lift on his way out the door. this morning, there is marked improvement on many of the pandemic metrics in the united states, but there is also major concern about the new variants. health officials now say that we have to be open to the possibility that the uk variant is not only more transmissible, but also more deadly than previous strains. >> and in just hours, the house of representatives will deliver the article of impeachment against former president trump to the senate. mr. trump's second impeachment trial is scheduled to start in two weeks, but the number of republican senators opposing this trial is growing. we're also learning stunning new de

>>mitt romney and susan collins solidly on his side at this point what does that bode for trying to get more conservative republicans to sign off on this. >>it's there it's early jury and james it's it's still early in the process. there's a little you know i mean i'm going to play hard to get. you these are people who normally would want to do something there's going to be some horse trading. the number may come down to 91001.7 or they may decide differently had allocated remember the language of over the last bill was all about how is going to be spent to basically the trump administration we're trying not spend it at all which is why you have the standoff with the speaker this will be something different this will be targeted again. may go back to good old days that that the job i know is which horse trading which is. yeah, you know that thing i need a new tide really like that included and there go you get a vote. >>but the horse trading like would it involve complete. you know impeachment. rioters just few short ok, so it's not it's got good not going to be like that kind of pressu

bush, mitt romney, susan collin, they call what happened here an insurrection, and it captures, well beyond calling the protests. i think there is an increasing acknowledge from republicans they need to start to name this. frankly not having done it earlier has been part of what led us here today. lester? >> we understand that vice president-elect harris is arriving on capitol hill. will be in the senate chamber as they continue their business. >> yes, the vice president-elect was here earlier today. >> all right, here -- >> the senate floor. >> u.s. capitol hill police, federal, state, and local law enforcement. the violence was quelled. the capitol hiis secured and th people's work continues. we condemn the violence that took place here in the strongest possible terms. we grieve the loss of life. in these hallowed halls. as well as the injuries suffered by those who defended our capitol today, and we will always be grateful for the men and women who stayed at their posts to defend this historic place. to those who wreaked havoc in the capitol today, you did not win. violence never

collins and the rest of them -- when they touted what they were going to do, but left out the earmarks and money going to foreign countries, was a slap in the face to the american public. so my message is to these people and c-span is to publish these things and let the american people now about the earmarks and all the other things -- know about the earmarks and all things. host: peter is in florida. caller: how are you? host: good. thank you. caller: i think the founders would be disturbed with what is going on. i think any civilian that does what he did should be arrested. regardless if he is the president, and the people that stormed the capitol should not be pardoned. i think this is just not right to do this to our democracy. to try and stop an election. these republicans think this is correct and this is how we should act. this is not how we should act. whether you are democrat or republican, whether you are president or not president, you should not do what you do. you are the one that had people struck the capital by your words. host: thank you for that, stephen. albany, new y

collins of maine going back as well. so members of congress going back into that joint session of congress so they can continue certifying the votes to josh hawley the senator from missouri we are told getting reports that he still plans to make a fuss about the certification of the votes at least in pennsylvania there have been reports that members of the republicans are going to back off on some of their of on some of their questions and some of contention on the certification of on some of those votes. a couple of other tweets who want to show you real quick. okay one take you right now the u.s. senate where that joint session of congress is once again in session. all right, thanks president >>is presiding once again over but let's listen in for a moment. >>violence never wins. freedom wins. and this is still the people's house. and as we reconvene in this chamber. the world will again witness. the resilience and strength of our democracy. for even in the wake of unprecedented violence and vandalism at this capital. t