it's an honor of nicki to khrushchev. he is now the new secretary of the central committee of the communist party of the ukraine. khrushchev falsely declares our political positions are well-known. we have held on hold to the position of non intervention in the internal affairs of other countries the example of finland, november 1939, they violate their nonaggression pact. they bomb without provocation helsinki. this signals the red army's ruthless aggression. 400,000 displaced men move their connections by every possible means of transportation. they million fans are heroic in the face of 170 million russians. the soviet finish war ends with finish loss. latvia, forced open in 1939 under soviet threat. on promise of friendship, moscow enters. on june 16th, 1940, the soviets issue an ultimatum. submit to occupation or be attacked. on june 17th, the red army, in direct violation, moves into complete the occupation of latvia. around russia to initiate the new order comes the public government. with august as prime minister,

stalin's advance agents khrushchev organize the local communists. khrushchev!iux congratulates remains under liberation. and ensures in that the soviet government does not pursue the aim of change and social living in romania. >> as he witnessed, the communist took lynn lennon at his word that the treaties the mains of gaining strength. the communists recognize the independence and made alliances with their neighbors to gain ties to in order to marshal the resources of the 170 million russians to build a powerful military force. when they felt they were strong enough, they systematically and immediately doubled up their neighbors. the reds found that in most cases, just the threat of soviet power was enough to gain there in. karl marx, one of the original architects of communist theory said quote, the russian bear is certainly capable of anything, as long as he knows the other animals he has to deal with are capable of nothing, unquote. communist imperialism was on the march, when these things happened. on june 22nd, 1941, hitler without warning turns his force

in addition to stalin are khrushchev and others. he speeds home to be welcomed by soviet troops, his new guard of honor. we are reminded of a night of a speech to the supreme soviet. quote, the nonsensical talk about the sovietization of the balkan companies is only to the interest of our common enemies. the new constitution sent from moscow guarantees freedom from unreasonable arrest, unquote. however, enough reasonable charges are found to send thousands of latvian men, women, and children to slave labor camps in the soviet union. while this list of the names of 78 people arrested by the soviet secret police, the notation at the end of the list explains the quite reasonable charges, not politically reliable, shoot them to death. the example of estonia also in 1939 with more promises, the soviet union requests these bases, the little country exceeds. in june of 1940, the red army invades estonia next to the soviet soldiers stationed there have not been assured proper security. less than a month later, a new communist constituent as

these wars were described by khrushchev as, quote, revolutionary wars. these are not only possible, but inevitable and will continue to get communist support. khrushchev describes the cuban situation as people's wars of liberation and sacred wars. communists must not only support such wars but lead them. khrushchev points out, and we quote, where transition to communism meets to resistance to transition, it can be brought about peacefully. otherwise, communists must encourage armed uprising and civil war. end quote. there was no determined resistance to communism in british guyana. >> the example of georgetown british guyana, 1953, international intrigue smolders here. britain charges a red plot. accused of its conspiracy, the heads of the people's progressive party. communist propaganda literature is confiscated, but the communists had their foot in the door. by 1961, a communist premier controls british guyana. the example of vietnam. just 21 -- july 21, 1954, at geneva, a french general signs a cease-fire agreement with the vietnam general. others tak

the soviet leader, khrushchev, saw the bay of pigs failure, failure of the u.s. as a great victory for soviet foreign policy and its desire to have inroads into the western hemisphere through cuba. khrushchev saw this as an indication of weakness and indecision on the part of the american president and at their later summit in vienna and the end of the summer of 1951, khrushchev beat up kennedy rhetorically and later that summer, put up the berlin wall. khrushchev also saw this as an opportunity to change the strategic and balance -- strategic and balance by putting these medium-range and intermediate range missiles secretly in cuba, his intent was that he would be able to get away with it and announce -- and force western concessions on other issues like berlin. host: did president kennedy or anyone from that united states ever admit the country's role in the bay of pigs invasion? nicholas: oh, i think so. it was pretty clear to all through the media, through the exiled community, that the cia had been involved, again, kennedy took responsibility for it. but an

khrushchev to come in. to come into latin america and to engage us and what would be a civil war and possibly even worse than that. host: what role did questions about castro in cuba play in the 1960 presidential election? nicholas: is such a bizarre situation because nixon is arguing exactly the opposite of what he believes. i mean, kennedy is attacking nixon from the right on cuba, saying the cuban revolution has to be quarantined and that its opponents have to be supported. they kennedy campaign had put out the campaign statement that the eisenhower administration was not helping, providing virtually no help and so in this debate, which was the fourth of the presidential debates. nixon is countering that press statement from the kennedy campaign for all of reasons he articulated and you have this bizarre situation, if you are an american voter in 1960 and you do not want the united states to intervene in cuba, he would vote for nixon, who articulated why this should not happen. even though nixon himself

it wasn't sparked because of this act of generosity on the part of khrushchev. these things are usually political theater. it's interesting that on that trip castro did meet -- eisenhower wouldn't meet with him but he met with the vice president, richard nixon, who was impressed by this young charismatic new leader of cuba. but afterwards said he's either incredibly naive about communism or he's one of them. >> i'm going to show to everyone a clip from president kennedy who was speaking about the bay of pigs invasion to the american society of newspaper editors on april 20, 1961. here's what he said. >> the president of a great democracy such as ours and the editors of great newspapers such as yours owe a common obligation to the people. an obligation to present the facts, to present them with candor and to present them in perspective. it is with that obligation in mind that i have decided in the last 24 hours to discuss briefly at this time the recent events in cuba. on that unhappy island as in so many other arenas of the contest for freedom the news has grown

he went to a summit in vienna in june with khrushchev, and khrushchev just ate his lunch. and john kennedy said he thinks i'm stupid and weak because of what happened at the bay of pigs. and certainly, you can make a connection then to khrushchev making his connection to putting up the berlin wall. although in some way, the berlin defused -- that's a different story. >> but it triggered the wall being built. >> it did. >> the bay of bigs, and the same thing happened in asia. >> that's true. and it was certainly -- kennedy certainly was very aware of that when he went to the summit with khrushchev. look, the repercussions in the bay of pigs just kept going. all through -- it really didn't end for kennedy until the cuban missile crisis. a lot of things, vietnam war, in many ways, started on april 20th, the day after the bay of pigs. john kennedy needing a victory against the communists ordered a task force in the pentagon to look for a way to stop communism in south vietnam. and quickly after that, sent 400 more men to vietnam. really the first step into the morass of vietna

he went to a summit at vienna in june with khrushchev. khrushchev just ate his lunch. kennedy afterwards said, he thinks i'm stupid and weak because of what happened at the bay of pigs. certainly, you can then make a connection to khrushchev making this move to put up the berlin wall. but in some ways, the berlin wall defused the situation in berlin. that's a long story. >> but it triggered it while being belt? and the same thing happened in asia. >> that's true. kennedy certainly was very aware of that when he went to the summit with khrushchev. the repercussions of the bay of pigs just kept going. they really didn't and for kennedy until the cuban missile crisis. in many ways the, vietnam war started on april 20th, the day after the bay of pigs. john kennedy needing a victory against the communists ordered a task force in the pentagon to look to a way to stop communism in south vietnam. and quickly after that, he sent 400 more meant to be an all. that is really the first step into the morass of vietnam that began on the beaches of cuba. i will go to this gentleman, h

it wasn't sparked because this act of generosity on the part of khrushchev. these things are usually political theater. host: it's interesting that on that trip, he met with vice president richard nixon, who was impressed by this young, charismatic new leader of cuba, but said afterwards that he is either incredibly naive about communism or he is one of them. host: i am going to show for everyone a clip from president kennedy, who was speaking about the bay of pigs invasion to the american society of newspaper editors on april 20, 1961. here's what he said. [video clip] >> the president of a great democracy such as ours and the editors of great newspapers, such as yours, hold a common obligation to the people. an obligation to present the facts. to present them with candor. and to present them in perspective. it is with that obligation in mind that we have decided in the last 24 hours to discuss briefly at this time the recent events in cuba. on that unhappy island, as in so many other marinas of the contest for freedom, the news has grown worse instead of be

khrushchev to come in. narrator: as the votes are counted on november 8, it is clear that a key issue has been , who knows best how to handle castro. it is the closest presidential election in u.s. history. >> we finally emerged successfully. now, as far as the next program, i've went to the country with very clear views of what the united states ought to do. i have been elected and therefore, i'm going to do my , best to implement those views. narrator: even as the president-elect speaks, in guatemala, the force that he is called for in his campaign, the force that nixon has denied exists, that eisenhower has created, that castro has denounced, is getting trained and ready. in cuba, meanwhile, custer is ending, trying to destroy the guerrillas, now cut off from arms and supplies. >> thousands of fidel's billy shukman -- m militia began an offensive against us. they mov out the farmers, kill the cows, pigs, and chickens, cut down the fruit trees, burned the houses, took away the food. in view of this and th

while he's in new york he greets khrushchev. castro will tell the general assembly the united states is seeking to overthrow him. he's claiming an army to invade his country, he's interfering in cuba's internal affairs. a few weeks later the democratic candidate for president is in new york campaigning. he issues a statement in which he says the united states is not doing enough for the cuban exiles. he says the united states ought to help him. in their television debate vice president nixon disagrees. >> now, i don't know what senator kennedy suggests when he says that we should help those who oppose the castro regime both in cuba and without, but i do know this. that if we were to follow that recommendation, that we would lose all of our friends in latin america. we'd probably be condemned in the united nations, and we would not accomplish our objective. i know something else. it would be an open invitation for mr. khrushchev to come in. >> as the votes are counted on november 8, it is clear that a key issue has been who knows

khrushchev happily receives a gift of the cuban flag as he lines up with a solid endorsement of fidel castro. -- claiming a full scale army revolt. in havana, the acting foreign minister shows diplomats rockets fired, which he claims have u.s. funding. meanwhile, at the united nations, the cuban foreign minister accused the united states of unleashing a foreign invasion with soldiers trained in florida. ambassador stevenson makes a quick denial. >> these charges are totally false, and i deny them categorically the united states has committed no aggression against cuba, and no offensive has been launched from florida or from any other parts of the united states. and >> in the guatemalan foothills, there is a mysterious training depot where some of the raiders may have been based. the government denies cues are among the soldiers being instruction, but they say otherwise. professional children with teachers. and once trained, the men mysteriously disappear. guatemala has had no beef for the castro busy regime and has aided the rebels. in cuba itself, the people have been -- by castro to

khrushchev could barely be glimpsed through the throng of protectors. promises to make a general assembly session already momentous on the cargo issue on a potentially explosive or a potentially historic international meeting. at least 16 new members are to be admitted. a score of heads of government are a dramatic setting with global states at issue. ♪♪ fidel castro whips up a fuhrer in cuba charging the united states with arming and training mercenary forces for an imminent invasion. he calls out some 200,000 militiamen for training and guard duty at key points throughout havana at the guantanamo naval base. castro's invasion scarce also enlivens the eve of a debate in the united nations on cuban charges of aggression by the united states. meanwhile in moscow, an expert reels out the line of friendship to a group of newsmen and women from cuba, president at the invitation of a soviet journalist fleet whose job receives a gift of the cuba flag. the soviet's and the western hemisphere align. castro marks the second anniversary of his revolution with

khrushchev informed the world were now operational. the soviet union and communist china are just as aware as we are of the enormous importance of the missile carrying sub. no base on land, whether cuba or anyplace else, can compare with this. this does not mean that military bases on land have no value anymore. but it does mean that cuba is not particularly important. to a communist russia, or to a communist china, as a military base. the leaders of those two communist powers have other, bigger, and much more important goals in mind in south america and then just a military foothold on an island in our front yard. cuba is particularly important to the soviet union and communist china in other ways. weights about which john q american and all 100 maybe -- about which john q american knows little to nothing. it is hard for him or anyone else to see men like these from the tourist alleys south of the border. these men seldom, if ever, get into those alleys. but these men, and what moved them to revolution almost two years ago, makes that

while he is in new york, he sees nikita khrushchev. the date is september 20 6, 1960. -- 26. castro will tell the general assembly that the united states is seeking to overthrow him, is training -- training an army to overthrow his country, interfering with human affairs. he issues a statement in which he says that the united states is not doing enough for the cuban exiles. he says united states ought to help them. in their television debate, vice president nixon disagrees. >> i don't know what kennedy suggests when he says we should help those who oppose the castro regime. both in cuba, and without. i do know this, if we were to follow that recommendation, that we don't help our friends and it latin america, we would be cadet united nations, i know something else, it would be something else , it is invitation for khrushchev to come in. >> a key issue is who knows best on how to handle castro? it is the closest presidential election. >> as far as the x program, i went to the country with very clear views of what the united states got to do. i have been elected and therefore,

eisenhower and khrushchev were never close. um, but they did engage in many private conversations that were attended by only one translator. i preferred the style of meeting i preferred to have as few people as possible when discussing. relations with world leaders because he felt that it allowed the leaders to be more honest and open if there was less ears listening to them. um the meetings that i can khrushchev held in at camp david and in washington, dc did further saw us relations with the soviet union they brought them closer to an agreement on the disposition of west berlin. and when chris jeff finally departed washington dc from moscow, he implied to eisenhower's personal relationship between the two would prove helpful and approaching their mutual disagreements. now eisenhower also had to deal with the rest of the world. his personal diplomacy did not solely focus on the soviet union. he was already quite friendly and knew most of the leaders of western europe. england and france were we're and very strong allies. um ne

khrushchev and mr. mueller miles and deng now are sure the whole world will someday be there's. what investment have we made? or are we thinking of making, to see to it that the future will not be khrushchev's or mao is a deng? is this to be our investment against the communist future? this is a meeting in miami, florida. this is a group of cuban exiles who call themselves the alliance for liberation. these people have one burning ambition today to see cuba free, but this time, free from castro. there are all kinds of cuban groups like these, most of them disunited, disorganized, but intensely, wholly committed to counter revolution against castro. >> i was commander of the base. i was fifth in the army corps. when communists were sent to teach at the school -- last march, i then realize that fidel was also a communist. i had to go underground. i took refuge in the brazilian embassy in havana. after three months, i was transported to brazil and then came to the united states. i am a member of the anti communist christian front and the alliance for liberation. i am ready to join

almost ignored by numerous demonstrators, many of them european refugees to adjusted the arrival of khrushchev and other arriving reds on a russian liner, on which the heads of five satellite states arrived on a dank and foggy morning, arriving at the east river and harassed by hecklers, one boat hired by the longshoremen's union. onshore, hundreds of demonstrators massed, despite heavy rain. ♪ on peers 73, carpets had been laid by soviet emissaries for the occasion. the pair swarmed with news men and a massive assembly of police and security men. chris jeff could barely be glimpsed through the throng of protectors -- kruschev could barely be glimpsed to the throng of protesters. his visit promises to make a generally assembly session, already momentous on the congo issue, into potentially historic international news. at least 16 new members are to be admitted, a global setting. ♪ narrator: fidel castro whips up a furor in cuba, charging the united states of arming and training mercenary forces for an imminent invasion. he calls out militia men at key points throughout militia to coincide

khrushchev was talking about, which are operational and part of the ussr submarine fleet. the soviet union and communist china are just as aware as we are of the enormous importance of the missile-carrying sub, as a moving, hard to spot missile-launching platform. no base on land whether it's cuba or any place else, can compare with this in today's kind of warfare. now, this does not mean that military bases on land have no value anymore, but it does mean that cuba is not particularly important to a communist russia or a communist china as a military base. you see, the leaders of those two many communist powers have other bigger and much more important goals in mind than just a military foothold in an island in our front yard. cuba is important to the soviet union and the communist china in other ways about which john q. american, 180 million of us there, and means little or nothing. mainly because it's very hard for him or for anyone else to see men like these from the tourist allies south of the border. these men, seldom, if ever, get into the hotels, bars or casino of t

khrushchev saw this as an indication of weakness and indecision on the part of the american president, and at their later summit in vienna, in the summer of 1961, kruschev basically beat up kennedy rhetorically and later that summer put up the berlin wall. khrushchev also saw this as an opportunity to change the strategic imbalance in nuclear force posture by putting these medium range and intermediate range missiles secretly in cuba. his intent was that he would be able to get away with it, announce it as a fait accompli, and force western concessions on other issues like berlin. >> did president kennedy or anyone from the united states ever admit the country's role in the bay of pigs invasion? >> oh, i think so, yes. it was pretty clear to all through the media, through the exile community, that cia had been involved. again, kennedy took responsibility for it. but an important legacy of all this is this -- the fact that kennedy learned about decisionmaking from this. he learned not to trust the experts, the cia leadership, the u.s. military leadership, he felt, with justification, h

and it would be an invitation for khrushchev to step in. the president said he would make his decision within the next few hours. >> at dawn, the president makes his decision. later he tells it to the members of the revolutionary council who have been flown from florida. >> translator: president kennedy was very firm, he repeated three times, americans shooting cubas, no, no, no. the president was very upset, and he wanted to explain to us why he had allowed the invasion to take place after he had decided against u.s. military support. he told us that on the day of april 13th, he sent a message to the project chief watching the brigade get ready to sail for cuba. he asked this man, whose name was jack haskin, if he still felt the brigade could win by fighting alone. president kennedy showed us a copy of the reply, signed by haskins. this document informed the president that the brigade could overthrow the castro regime without u.s. help. the president looked very angry, and he told us he had relied on such advice in making the decision to s

he and khrushchev had a strong alliance as we know from the cuban missile crisis and the amount of weapons and aid that went to cuba. there's a lot of history here. we're not going to cover all of it. we're going to focus more on our attempts to get rid of him. and we're going to get to the bay of pigs. that's obviously one of the big stories here, but there's actually schemes that were brought up and thought of prior to the bay of pigs and some of them are worth noting. before 1960, castro takes power on essentially new year's day, 1959. if you have seen god father part 2, you know the story. prior to the eisenhower administration, there were some basic schemes, and schemes is a good word here as you'll see for trying to take castro out. one of them involved a radio station and castro gave broadcasts about once a week. he would give a stirring patriotic, this is what we're doing inside cuba broadcast to the people inside cuba. one of the early ideas was to spray in radio station with lsd so that when castro gave his broadcast, he would be tripping on acid, and say crazy stuff, and people

khrushchev and kennedy are long gone but there has been a castro in charge in havana since the revolution of 1959. until this weekend, that is. friday evening, local time in havana, we had this announcement at the five—yearly party conference, henry, that raul castro, the younger brother of fidel castro — i say younger brother, he's 90 now, so he was still his younger brother — but obviously fidel died five years ago. his younger brother is stepping aside. five years ago he said we are all too old, we need a new generation. finally at the new generation is going to take charge. is that going to change, do you think, the importance of cuba in your country, in a state like florida, where it still seems to matter in elections? yeah. it is hard to imagine not having the words castro and cuba in the same sentence. particularly for the us and in florida, as you say, where, for such a small island it wields an outsized influence in terms of its effects on our politics. i think that wooing that president trump did of the cuban—american community particularly really helped him win florida

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he burst into a huge gathering of communist officials and introduced himself to a dumbfounded nikita khrushchev. by the early 1960's, art buchwald was getting bored with paris and writing about celebrities. he was starting to feel that his writing was getting stale. in 19 60 when john kennedy was elected president, buchwald saw from abroad the style that president kennedy and his wife jacqueline were bringing to the white house and washington. buchwald thought perhaps this would be a good time to move and cover something different than paris nightlife and celebrity. he saw the new frontier as a challenge. some warned him that if he went to washington he would get massacred. how could he possibly compete with common -- columnists like arthur kroc and joseph allsop. despite the warnings, buchwald made the leap in 1960 two and to his immense credit, within a few years his brand of humor and satire and his comic easy-going personality made him a national journalistic celebrity. from then on until he died in 2007, art buchwald would entertain people from around the world with his wit, humor, insight

everybody remembers khrushchev put nuclear missiles in cuba because he had one meeting with john f. kennedy, he thought kennedy was week, china watches the news, they watch our government talk about we want to make sure everybody in the military, the women have to be treated equally and any guy we mail make sure we pay for guy to have a tree lopped off and other things, china focusing on making sure their military is more manly. the only person in our government to take china seriously is eric's wall well. >> what we had in the previous administration is realistic approach to what china was capable of and now would rather be perpetually engaged in war in the middle east whether it is afghanistan or somewhere else, they want to take on china? standing up to china? >> america has to accept we don't have the ability to take on china in their realm. they currently don't have the ability to take on us in our realm either but if china was to do something militarily to taiwan we wouldn't do anything about it and acknowledge how communist our media is your show excluded, our media, if china

everybody remembers khrushchev put nuclear missiles in cuba. they watch when our idiot government and our people, we want to make sure everybody in the military, women have to be treated equal. we will make sure we'll pay for a guy to have his tree lopped off. china's focusing on making sure their military is more manly. the only one who wants to dig in and take it seriously as eric swalwell paid speech i think what we had in the previous administration is an actual realism, a realistic approach to what china was capable of. i know we'd much rather be perpetually engaged in war in the middle east, whether it's afghanistan or somewhere else. do you think the generals want to take on china? do you think they are interested in standing up to china? >> i think america has to come up with -- they're going to have to accept the fact that we don't have the ability to take on china in their realm. granted they currently don't have the ability to take on us and our realm either but right now if china was to do something militarily to taiwan, we wouldn't

theyé&Ñ mone doctrine, outside of cuba, bullfrog, with a case on his shoulder, it switches for nikki to khrushchev, is swimming to cuba. this appeared to fourth before the discovery. so it's remarkably foreshadowing. what was about to happen. in the 24 century, the monroe doctrine had some rough handling. had some interesting interpretation. president george w. bush, in a post 9/11 world created the bush doctrine. a justification for wide range military intervention around the world, often without regard necessarily to the opinion of parts of the world. in 2013, secretary of state john kerry told the organization of american states, that the era of the monroe doctrine is over. and had a sort of surprise reaction and a scattering of applause. and that was a good thing. the statement was intended to look at the vitality and independents of latin american countries. but whatever the future holds for the monroe document for the monroe doctrine in this period, that statement made an 1823 to making, that it could still be a matter for debate in our day today. although he refused most invitations to hold

i think it's going at a very macro level, you have to remember that about 60 years ago, the kid khrushchev said, these children will live under communism and we won't have to fire a shot. what was he talking about? he was talking about the ability to gain control of our educational system so you can indoctrinate the kids, gain control of the media so you can spoon-feed the people only what you wanted them to hear, exclude the things he didn't want them to hear, he was talking about replacing god and confidence in god with government. he was talking about raising the debt to such incredible levels that you could justify massive taxation, redistribution of wealth, and complete control by the government. we need to wake up. we need to go back and read some of the stuff that was going on decades ago when people were predicting what was going to happen and we need more of it. the best way to thwart it is to recognize that this is the united states of america. and we have to recognize those who are trying to divide us. >> sean: we have states like delaware, new york, colorado they have far more

example obviously was the placement in cuba of offensive weapons capable of striking the united states by khrushchev early on in john f. kennedy's presidency. he was testing him. the world knows how we responded. president biden knows the lessons of history and knows early on in a presidency it's important to demonstrate toughness and resolve in the face of aggression like this. >> that's certainly what president biden did today. he responded. but he also said that he told vladimir putin in the phone conversation that they had that he thinks they should actually communicate directly and president biden proposed holding a summit this summer somewhere in europe with putin. do you think that meeting, first of all, is likely? would it be productive? >> i don't believe that today's announcement and a continued dialogue are inconsistent in any way. president biden, the biden administration has made clear how we regard the prior actions and has made clear that we will respond aggressively. that does not foreclose the prospect of further communications at the upper most levels of government provided that th

looking back at khrushchev and kennedy. it's a real risk that foreign leaders will size up our leaders negatively. >> neil: relations and how they read them. reason i ask, we're pulling out of afghanistan later than president trump wanted to do. you think that pull-out after 20 years no loss is one of the things that china reads as well? russia reads. we want to back away from these types of global conflicts. >> you know, think they are certainly paying attention. it's not like the 1970s sort of u.s. deeper trenchment after the fall of saigon, which happened in the mid 60s and 75. i think the chinese and the russians are strategic enough to know that we're finally -- this is very controversial. we achieved what we wanted to in afghanistan, which is decimating al-quaida and getting rid of bin laden and proving over the course of two decades that we're going to be very upset if they or any country hosts terrorists that strike the united states. we made that point clear. so the effect that we're pulling back on counter insurge

khrushchev and form the world two weeks ago were operational as part of the ussr submarine fleet. the soviet union and coming to china are just as aware as we are of the enormous importance of the missile-caring sub as a moving, hard-to-spot missile launching base. no base on land or anywhere else can compare with this in today's warfare. this does not mean that military bases on land have no value anymore, but it does mean that cuba is not particularly important to a communist russia or a commonest china as a military base. you see, the leaders of those two commonest powers have other, bigger, and more important goals in mind in south america than just a military foothold on an island in our front yard. cuba is particularly important to the soviet union and the communist china in other ways. about which, john q american, and that means all 180 million of us, knows little or nothing. mainly because it is very hard for him or anyone else to see men like these from the tourist alleys south of the border. these men seldom, if ever, get into the hotels, bars, and gambling casinos that

summit but the risks and uncertainty for a summit are probably greater than 4 in a somber sense premier khrushchev walked out of one in paris in 1950 would present eisenhower why do you say that and is actually such a summit realistic is the kremlin likely to agree to a meeting like that after it's just had sanctions imposed on it. the foreign minister sergei lavrov has moscow reacted positively to president biden's proposal and from a criminal standpoint having such a summit helps legitimize the prestige of criminal rule if you will in russia there's been a continued tightening of rule. of stronger limits on freedom of expression in russia i think this is posing a problem for russia in terms of which of them a city in the west and so somewhat like this could help. right but russia isn't going to accept any sort of into ferentz in internal matters when it comes to freedom of expression is freedom of speech or indeed. conditions around alexina valmy so how would the biden administration need to approach a meeting of this nature whereby the ministration will continue speaking out about the about it

and given the rhetoric coming out of the kremlin, khrushchev saying all kinds of things like we'll bury you, exact words, seem he would use them. i point this out a communist country 90 miles from the american shores was simply intolerable. not just bare goldwater and richard nixon, really, to everybody. so fidel castro was interrogated everywhere he went on his visit about communism. by vice president nixon, by congress' subcommittee by scores of journalists. everyone asked the same question. dr. castro, are you a communist? he answered the same every time. no, he was not a communist. never had been. never would be. when castro finally left new york on april 25th the police were relieved to see him go but most new yorkers happy he'd come to visit. an editorial in the "new york times" summed up the general attitude as he left. "he made it quite clear neither he nor anyone of importance if his government far as he knew was a communist." seemed obvious americans felt better an castro than they did before. that changed very fast. in the book i go into detail whatevered after castro returne

." >> nigel, we never thought we would look back to the good old days of khrushchev with a smile, but it's such a great chasm between the united states and russia has developed that it seems that even culturally, those cultural breakthroughs don't seem like a possibility right now. >> they seem a long way away, don't they. i was just listening to a piece thinking, how many similar things have happened in the cold war. how much is similar. we have had deaths, poisoning, proxy wars, annexations. we are in some ways back to where we were before, it seems to me. and culture has a part to play, of course. it's always there to remind people that they have similarities underneath, but emotionally, they're the same people and to connect people and to allow, i guess, the impressions of fraternity between people, but it seems we have a long way to go to get back to the khrushchev era, i agree. >> i remember a popular song in the mid-'80s, where the hook of it was, i hope the russians love their children, too. the van cliburn concert showed how willing russians were actually to embrace an americ