and meeting with republicans and ceding to republican demands to make republicans happy, to chase maybe a republican vote or two. meanwhile, all the while making the bill less progressive. mitch mcconnell put an end to that. he laid it bare. there will be no republican votes no matter what. so don't bother asking, right? thank you. at least it should mean that democrats can now move ahead with plans to pass this thing on their own terms with just their own votes. it means that the negotiations over what's going to be in the bill are only going to happen among democrats, which means there will be some difficult negotiations. democrats do have different interests and different sort of tolerances of spending. sure. but it means there will be equally difficult negotiate with some conservative democrats who might want to take some stuff out of the bill. it'll be equally difficult to negotiate with them as it is to negotiate with the progressive democrats who want to make the bill even bigger and more ambitious. all the negotiations happen now within the democratic caucus. what mcconnell did

three were republican appointees. we are asking for an end to the un-american practice of gerrymandering congressional districts. it has become a national scandal . the state legislatures have so rigged the electoral process that the will of the people cannot be heard. that was a 1988 speech. later in that speech, he mentioned his support for a lawsuit against democratic gerrymandering in california. extreme partisan gerrymandering harms our political system and cannot be reconciled with the framers conception of the house of representatives as directly accountable to the people. the court has a crucial role to play in fixing the problem. that quote is from an amicus brief signed in 2019 by 20 republican members of congress. so politicians today are still willing to stand with ronald reagan and condemn gerrymandering. the second point has to do with the conservative justices on the supreme court. there is an idea that the court should step into to correct democratic flaws in cases. justices have supported judicial int

republicans started the federalist society, got fed up with nominees of republican presidents getting onto the court and surprising them one how they ruled on cases. some of the most liberal judges of the last 50 or 60 years were appointed by republican presidents. it bothered republicans. they said, we will not allow this anymore. if we get republicans elected to be the president and control the senate, we wanted to make sure that they will be with us on core issues like a gun rights and abortion rights and worker issues. they did not want anymore david souter's, george h w bush's pick that surprised conservatives by ending up being a reliable liberal vote. they put in this process that imposed a budget litmus test. it rich -- reached its apex in 2016 when donald trump said i will only pick from did -- this list of individuals. i want them committed to things like overturning roe v. wade and overturning the affordable care act. he campaigned on that openly. that was celebrated and viewed as an act of political genius by many commentators because he was known -- no longer putting any

the meeting will include democrats and republicans and so far we know of two republicans who'll be in attendance. senator of nebraska and roger wicker of mississippi. both senators sitting in the committee dealing with transportation in the senate. republicans have said they are willing to talk about traditional forms of infrastructure like roads and rails and also bridges but they do not like that price tag. that $2.25 trillion price tag that the president proposed so far. they don't like the corporate tax rate being raised to 20%. the white house is willing to negotiate on this. they have not heard alternative suggestions they find suitable. tomorrow really represents the first opportunity to start hammering out some of those details. this is similar to the approach that the president took with the covid relief package. he invited republicans into the oval office to hear their ideas before he went alone without any republican support. one of those senators, one of those republican senators will be in the meeting tomorrow talked about how he's hoping these negotiations will be differ

which was the right position, georgia republicans? but fundamental problem for republicans while they have a hammer lock on part of the country they're growing ever more estranged from rest of it and more angry. leading to preposterous performative culture war spectacles. texas governor greg abbott backing out of throwing filch this year, his state senate just also passed restrictive voting bill, and intimations of using state to punish corporations not under vision of political economy, policy, regulation but explicitly as punishment for them not having the right politics. >> my advice to the corporate ceos of america is stay out of politics. don't pick sides in these big fights. >> stay out of politics, stay out of politicians says republican leader mitch mcconnell to business today. also said parts of the private sector keep dabbling in behaving like a woke parallel government, don't you love how they appropriated that word? from outside the constitutional order. keep quiet about republican voter suppression or else. what is outsid

in republican principles things like fiscal responsibility, i'm a republican. and what i've been urging my republican colleagues to do is act like republicans. because if they spend time working on the principles of the republican party it encompasses people from the trump wing from the judicial republicans predestined real team. >> read disappointed in your former colleagues for not standing up to trump, there were only a few republicans that were willing to stand up to him at any point in this administration. >> i try not to be critical of those in office. they have a tough job to do as it is, there's no reason for me too make it more difficult. again if they focus on the principles of the republican party i think they will be on far more solid ground. >> let's circle back to nancy pelosi, that's the time that we got cut off. we would love to hear your thoughts, you served with her for a long time and she is in your prior position at a very different time in american history, thoughts on her, her leadership style, advice. >> as i was saying earlier, she is on

>>> a battle to save the republican party. this week, on "firing line." >> the house have an open battle within the gop, then that's what it's going to have to take. >> a combat veteran who flew missions in iraq and afghanistan, adam kinzinger is from illinois. after the siege on the capitol -- >> shouldn't we be willing to give up our jobs to uphold that constitution? >> he was one of ten republicans who votedo impeach donald trump. he's also calling out the conspiracies. >> q is a patriot. >> qanon is nuts. >> and facing a primary challenge. >> adam kinzinger. >> but stays focused on his new mission to restore the gop. what does representative adam kinzinger say now? >> announcer: "firing line" with margaret hoover is made possible by the margaret and daniel love foundation, robert grenier, charles r. schwab, the david tepper charitable foundation, inc., the fair weather foundation, craig new mark philanthropies and by corporate funding is provided by stevens, inc., and rgan stanley. >> representative adam kinzinger, william

republican history. guest: it was really exciting. we now have 31 republican women serving. 20 of them are from the freshman class. it was a really great year for republican women. i also think the freshman class is such a diverse class. it is a reflection of america, and it is a great class to be part of. host: and correct me if i am wrong, you're the first iranian american serving in congress. guest: that is correct. i did not know that until after i was elected. my father immigrated, but i consider myself an american. i've never been, do not speak the language. for me, i'm just an og. host: do you think that gives you a perspective, filtering through your father's views? guest: it really does my father left, and there was a reason. it gives me a good perspective. and one other note about the freshman class, i am also the first female republican freshman class president ever. i was honored to be selected by my class, and it is a real thrill to be leading this incredible class. host: was not a surprise

republicans. i want our viewers to listen to a heated exchange that you had with congressman jim jordan this week. >> you don't think americans' liberties have been threatened this last year, they've becky anderson assaulted them. >> i don't look at this as a liberty thing, congressman jordan. >> that's obvious. >> i look at it as a public health thing. >> so hearing comments like this have real say with some people out there. a new poll this week shows that 43% of republicans still don't want to get the vaccine. how frustrating is this for you, dr. fauci? >> you know, dana, it is quite frustrating. because the fact that one may not want to get vaccinated in this case a disturbing new large proportion of republicans, only actually works against where they want to be. they want to be able to say these restrictions that are put on by public health recommendations are things that they're very concerned about. we are all concerned about that. we share that concern. but the way you get rid of those res

the important part that you presented is where republicans picked up seats, you also have republican control of the map drawing in many jurisdictions. florida being a perfect example. even though voters have tried to put greater restrictions, still republican legislators will test the boundaries of those restrictions. so what you will see is a race against the clock. can they get republican-friendly maps enacted before the 2022 election? in most states where politics have a heavy hands in map drawing, you see challenges have to work their way through the court process before the final decision. they also know the census reapportionment alone will not give them back the house. they still have the work to do even with a friendly census outcome. >> donna evers, and david jolly, we'll stick with it. they are both sticking around. >>> the president's address tomorrow is expected to move congress now and quickly on reforms for law enforcement as the number of black people killed by police continues to rise. for many, talk needs to turn into action and now. that's next. into action and now.

with the republican party than i am now. i saw the new jersey governor come out the other day and say republicans need to get more aggressive. he is absolutely right. they are always on defense and never on offense. the democrats never apologize for any of the things they say. this has been an area of frustration for me, particularly when marjorie taylor greene was taken off her committees because of some stupid things she had said in the past. during the russia investigation, eric swalwell and adam schiff were coming out every day and lying saying there was misinformation on president trump when they all knew it was not true. kevin mccarthy did not take them off the intelligence committee. i do not get it. same thing with liz cheney. they voted to keep her in leadership after she voted to impeach our president. i wish i had another alternative. what is your comment, susan? guest: i think you are talking about feelings a lot of people in the republican party have right now. the storyline about republicans has been a party di

the republican senate leader promising there will be no republican votes for it. if they're going to pass an infrastructure proposal, democrats have to pass it using that same process they used for the covid relief bill, which is a senate rule that let them pass it with 50 votes instead of 60. and we know now that they can use that process, not just one more time this year but basically as many times as they want this year, and i'll tell you, it still hasn't really caught on, i think, broadly, in terms of the way people are talking about politics. but this will be a defining thing about the biden presidency and the first two years he's in office. the filibuster rule that the 60-vote threshold, that has changed a few times in recent years. so that it doesn't apply to confirming cabinet nominees and then they changed it so it wouldn't apply to confirming judges and they changed it again under trump so it wouldn't apply to confirming supreme court justices. what you can exempt from that 60-vote threshold. this new rule this week effectively seems to mean that there's

policies, those supporting the war, increase the republican -- by december 1862, many republicans in congress had unhappily concluded todd lincoln was week as a war leader and executive. though they acknowledged his good intentions. republicans however, refrained from public criticizing him. they feared, probably correctly, the damaging effects that public attacks on the president would have on the support for the war and their partner. privately, republicans felt a little -- about questioning his leadership. senator trumbull, who owed his senatorial election to lincoln in 1865, wrote a friend, you would be surprised in talking with public men in congress to find how few you would get at the real sentiments or missed delinquents. there is a distress and fear that he is two undecided and inefficient to put down the rebellion. during the dark days of early 1862, republican leaders in congress came through the conclusion that their organization of the cabinet was necessary. if the war was to be one. overwhelmingly, they wanted secretary of state replaced in the cabinet, and to a lesser

republicans have run away from this for so long. i would describe us as populists we want to talk about it. >> that is right. you see a lot happening, at the grassroots level among the faith community, people who are not political and talk about the question of fatherlesses innessd family break down. and there is a lot happening, we don't talk as much about it, they are so uncomfortable with this basic fact of life, if you have a mom and dad at home, you have a much better opportunity for future. steve: well said, jd we'll see you later. >> coming up, one of the biggest issues facing the nation, joining us is lisa booth to talk about it. we know how much you count on us... ...and that's why we're here 24/7... ...and on the road maintaining a fast and reliable network. we're always working to ensure the internet meets your needs... ...by making access easier for all... ...with comcast lift zones and our internet essentials program. we're invested in making our apps easy... ...to give you personalized assistance around the clock. and

i am really proud to see a republican that isn't what a traditional republican is. republicans are reinventing themselves and tim scott is a good example of what republicans could be. i hope to see more of that. that is really all i have to say. host: was there an issue the president discussed tonight where you agreed with him or disagreed with him? infrastructure, coronavirus aid, american families plan, etc.? caller: yeah. i think there's some very grandiose plans coming from the president, but is he actually going to be able to get that passed through the congress? host: next call is molly calling from michigan. where in michigan are you? caller: hi, how are you? host: where in michigan? caller: northern michigan. host: so what was your response to the president's address? caller: i thought it was very less than desirable. it is well known to many he has over 47 years and i think it shows. his time was up a long time ago. not one thing i can take out of it. my voting rights are very important, as are my children and grandchildren. not one thing i thought of it po

>> i am a registered republican. and i think thathe survival of a healthy, flourishing republican party committed to democratic values is very, very important. and certainly if i were living in one of the -- i live in the district o columbia, but if i were living in california or new york, i think i would be pretty active in state republican politics to make politics in those places competitive. >> both of you in your rece books used democracy in the title. tell me right now, is democracy is peril, anne? >> yes, i do think it's in peril. it's in peril not just in the united states but around the world. in the united states, what we're watching is not just polarization, so not just deep divisions between republicans and democrats, but we've also seen a part of the public mostly inside the republican party turning against the institutions of american democracy themselves and questioning their value and reliability. so, i mean, if you look at the attack on the capitol on january 6th, that wasn't republicans fighting dem

this is why you're trying to see republicans push this issue over all else. feel this is a weakness and they can take advantage of the politics of immigration. biden would rather focus on the pandemic given that the vaccine is rolling out more smoothly now and decent chunk of republicans support his handling of the pandemic at this point. >> it's interesting poll, nearly as many people don't have opinion on it as disapprove. third of the people polled don't have opinion on the matter. to what do you attribute that? >> i think people are still waiting to form opinions of the biden administration. saw this on a range of issues. sense that people are waiting a little bit. maybe some of that is giving biden a chance to figure out what his policy is. only in office 70-something days as you mentioned. what the biden administration and what the republicans are going to try to do is shape the numbers. people who don't have opinion yet, they're the targets to shape in the coming days and weeks. >> and julie talks about biden doing better in terms of approval with pand

he is really insisting on the republican party stay in lock step. that's not for the good of the country. yes, you asked the country do they support the first covid belief bell, overwhelmingly's including republicans. 's waiting for me voters perspective, they see solving the covid crisis, getting the economy up and running the most bipartisan agenda you could have. is that a little redefining what bipartisanship means though? >> it is. that's fair. but in this moment when things have become so hyper partisan, i still think it's legitimate. our job, the reason why we were elected and given the majority of the house and given the presidency was because the agenda joe biden promised to get down from getting the american people need us to do this. of mitch mcconnell the republicans don't want to help, that's fine. it's their choice. they put politics over people, not surprising, and i think it's a mistake. >> you said you would be willing to eliminate the filibuster to pass certain pieces of legislation. you've also cautioned about the risks saying quo

the reluctance of republican voters. a recent quinnipiac survey showing 45% of republicans don't plan on getting a vaccine. another poll from monmouth university, 43% of republicans will likely never get a shot. these are just the latest string of surveys showing a disproportionate number of conservatives declining doses. it is all starting to show up in real life statistics and trends with blue states now steadily outpacing reliably red states nationwide when it comes to vaccination numbers. also within those conservatives resisting the vaccine is an overwhelming number of republican men. here's what some residents in smith county, one of the reddest counties in mississippi, had to say about the prospect of getting a shot. >> do you plan to get vaccinated? >> no, ma'am. >> how come? >> cuz i'm a good old country boy. i don't need it. >> i made up my mind 40 years ago never to get another flu shot. >> so no flu shot, no covid vaccine. >> it's the flu, it ain't covid. it's the flu. >> i've just got questions. and i don't

the trump republicans. in my state, the majority of republicans call themselves trump republicans. they used to call themselves evangelical republicans. they now call themselves trump republicans. so i don't think this is a growth trajectory for the republican party to be so closely associated with what donald trump stands for. and by the way, they're very confused right now. they're so busy on these cultural wars, they have lost their principles of fiscal responsibility, small government, they've embraced federalism and now even though mitch mcconnell has been the number one cheerleader for calling corporations people so they can have first amendment rights when it comes to political contributions, now he's all about shutting them down and making sure they can't speak as people on issues of the day. so he's busy trying to punish corporations which got him to the majority leadership in the first place. it will be interesting to see how this love/hate relationship with the corporate world. >> send me donations but don't talk about anything seems to be the message here. when you talk

that is democrats, republicans, and independents. the government is conservatively reaching out to republicans to say, come to the table. if you don't like the component, tell us what you would like to see in the bill. the vast majority of this bill includes things that publicans are supporting, like roads and bridges, like broadband, like water, manufacturing supply chains. these are all things that republicans have introduced bills on. so come to the table, we want to make it bipartisan. host: will republicans come to the table, especially with the corporate tax increase from 21% to 28%. this is a headline, roy blunt who is stepping down says the biden structure built would be an easy bipartisan win if it was more focused. he made those comments yesterday on "this week." we will have your comments on whether you think the bill can be partisan. but from abc news yesterday -- >> are you are the gop is on the wrong side of this issue? >> i am for all of that if the proposal was to do just that, there would be a problem with i partisan

only one republican senator voted against it. only one. more later this hour on who exactly that was. schumer faces the same challenge that biden does. is he willing to go all the way? is he willing to confront manchin, sinema and get rid of the filibuster? is he willing to take on mitch mcconnell? is the senate majority leader willing to do what needs to be done to advance the democratic agenda? i spoke to him earlier. senator schumer, thank you so much for joining me on the show tonight. >> good to be with you, mehdi. >> look, senator, i want full disclosure from the very beginning. i used to be very critical of you. over these first 100 days, you and joe biden have managed to get the most progressive bill of my lifetime, the american rescue plan, through the senate. you got a bipartisan anti-asian hate bill through. was that always the plan, to surprise people like me from the get-go, or was this just you and the president reacting to the pandemic, this moment of crisis we're in? >> no, it goes way beyond the pandemic, mehdi. we're at a

this is the dilemma republicans have -- or some republicans, not all, but there are republicans willing to criticize him. there are any other number of republicans who went down to kiss the ring at mar-a-lago, and as long as that is going to happen, trump is going to retain a presence in the party. >> he's the most sought after endorsement in the party. >> he's the leader of the party. >> right. >> i mean, that's fact, and that's with any former president. when the other party takes over. >> not jimmy carter. >> well, look. carter was a real exception, i think, because the american people had so clearly rejected him in 1980. i mean, you didn't have that clear rejection here in 2020 as you did four years earlier. reagan won 40 states, i mean, in 1980. it was a pretty clear rejection, but look. here's what republicans need to do. the way you lose elections is to talk about the past. the way you lose elections is to look in the rear-view mirror and act that way. voters want you talking about we need to stop attacking each other, and we need to start talking about the future and contrast ou

she very much is taking that direction of the republican brand of the republican party and seems to be succeeding thus far. so for mcauliffe to send that message to democratic voters, don't let up, especially because this is an off-year election, it will be an interesting litmus test on both sides. >> donald trump in high heels. that's interesting. thank you. good to see you, deepa. that wraps up the hour for me, everybody. i'm yasmin vossoughian. i'll be back here tomorrow at 3:00 p.m. eastern. reverend al sharpton and "politicsnation" are up after the break. ♪ limu emu & doug ♪ liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. thank you! hey, hey, no, no limu, no limu! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ ♪ (ac/dc: back in black) ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ back in black ♪ ♪ i hit the sack ♪ ♪ i've been too long... ♪ applebee's irresist-a-bowls are back. dig in for just $8.99. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood. cyber attacks are relentlessly advancing. to end them, cybereason built a cyber s

most of them were republicans. it was sort of the middle of the roads for republicans. but then they began to see -- other generals as well, especially political situations. in 62 or 63. so they began to compound pretty hard here on lincoln and the conduct of the war. they want to changes, but again they did this not perfectly. that committee did investigate a lot. there were some injustices with the court must marshal. for this engagement near washington. it spent about six months in prison. it was an injustice. >> it was an injustice. >> they just threw him in, right. right. but that was an example. he went along to mature. lincoln and it. but in the end it controlled the big picture and that we will see that important thing. one more question, she said. >> thanks for your beautiful lecture. i have a question. how did president lincoln convince congress to add -- in two years? >> did you wet? >> to add two more states to the union? >> there were going to be republican states. two and and it was congress behind this primarily (laughter). west virginia as well. the unio

of republicans. it is because of the actions of kemp and this vigil showing this is going to be the new jim crow air kra that they are actually losing global business. who wants to do business in a space that can't even move on some levels, move beyond basic fundamental rights of civil rights, voting rights and race? >> you actually,ut in a tweet nicely. tried to tell them democracy is good for business and racism ain't. we can show you better than we can tell you. what do you want to see next? a cascade this weekend. coca-cola, delta. you had the black executives writing to other businesses, airlines and other companies across the country. you mentioned salesforce at the front end of it and a then saw major league baseball. what more do you foresee happening for republicans in georgia and in arizona and in iowa and in michigan and across this country to say we are going to lose business, like north carolina did, with the transgender bathroom business, or like indiana did under mike pence, with gay m

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republicans -- no republicans have come out in support of this. there is an issue of fairness and moral hazard, encouraging people to borrow more. there is argument that there are lots of programs and benefits that work as a social safety net that all americans do not benefit from. if you work to eliminate this debt, they can redeploy that money into the economy, purchasing homes and cars. host: is there an income limit in terms as to who would qualify? guest: not at the moment. there is some discussion. i've heard some people may be people who are making under one out of $25,000. -- $125,000. there is not yet an income cap. i imagine that will be on the table. host: the total student debt amount exceeding $1.7 trillion and that accounts to about 44.7 million americans who have student loan debt. the average monthly payment is about $300. this number pre-pandemic, just over 11% of student loans were delinquent or in default. guest: we are having a repayment problem in this country in the sense that the current repayment structure is exceedingly co

help republicans. meanwhile, biden does have pressure if from the left to enact these kind of supreme court reforms, but he doesn't really have the tools to make those a reality, and it could backfire in the form of energizing republican voters. arthel: so the white house released a statement and in part it said, quote, the topics it will examine includes the genesis of reto formed debate, the court's role in the constitutional system, the length of service and turnover of justices on the court, the membership and size of the court and the court's selection rules and practices. so, again, it's a 36-member commission, and the argument again is about -- and it's certainly packed with intellectuals, both liberal and conservative voices according to the white house. but the question may be asked are these the right voices. >> that's one of the main criticisms that we have seen from the right, that there are maybe a few center-right experts on that panel, but it is being led by people who have poken out abo

>> i'm happy to have that debate with republicans. are they really saying that broadband access to rural america is not infrastructure? are they saying that the smart grid and having new energy is not infrastructure? are they really thinking that we shouldn't prepare for a modern economy? they will not win that public debate. i believe that this will pass. as the president has said, he's hopeful that republicans will see the light, see the polling and support these measures, but if they don't we will support it and pass it as democrats, and that is unfortunate, but we have to get this done for the american people. >> president biden signed an executive order to study reforming the supreme court. what are you hoping arises from that commission and does expansion of the court seem possible given the political climate? >> well, i really applaud the president for keeping his promise and he said he would do this in the campaign. he's delivering on that key campaign promise and i think that what we ought to have is term limits for supreme c

and most of them were republicans. and here's where we get in, they start off sort of middle of the road republicans. some of them did. on that committee. but then they began to see how bad things were going, i suppose, in the military with mcclellan and with the other generals, too. especially when the political situation became bad in '62, early '63. so they begand to come down pretty hard here on lincoln and the conduct of the war. they wanted changes. but again, they were -- they wanted -- they did this mainly privately, not publicly, because that could undercut the whole war effort. but that committee did investigate a lot of things. and there was some injustice involved. lincoln went along, though, with the court-martial of general stone. and for the battlefield, the engagement near washington. and stone spent about, what, six months in scanton scholar, six months, i believe, in prison, and lincoln didn't do anything. and it was an injustice. >> there was no court-martial. it was an injustice. >> right, they just

republicans have run away from this for so long. i would describe us as populists we want to talk about it. >> that is right. you see a lot happening, at the grassroots level among the faith community, people who are not political and talk about the question of fatherlesses innessd family break down. and there is a lot happening, we don't talk as much about it, they are so uncomfortable with this basic fact of life, if you have a mom and dad at home, you have a much better opportunity for future. steve: well said, jd we'll see you later. >> coming up, one of the biggest issues facing the nation, joining us is lisa booth to talk about it. spraying flonase daily stops your body from overreacting to allergens all season long. psst! psst! all good (vo) nobody dreams in conventional thinking. it didn't get us to the moon. it doesn't ring the bell on wall street. or disrupt the status quo. t-mobile for business uses unconventional thinking to help you realize new possibilities. like our new work from anywhere solutions, so your teams can

whoever the republican candidate will be in 1860. they won't be winning any southern state because of their their slavery position and those 465 delegates. you needed to clear one over the halfway point. so the magic number is going to be 233 and there's going to be 12 republican candidates presented there 12 what's also different from the conventions now versus pack in 1860 is at the the candidates themselves didn't go because it was considered. beneath the office to be that ambitiously seeking it you had a team of supporters or a delegation there to try to win that process for you. i'm going to talk about that a little bit later, but that's really the main difference. no primaries. no caucuses. you didn't officially throw your hat in the ring. you didn't go out and say i am running for president because as again as i said, you didn't want to look too ambitious for the office so you went out you made public speeches you wrote letters. that you hope got published in the prominent media source at the time which was newspapers, but you

is this still your republican party? >> it is, and you think about the republican party today, we need to remind ourselves, let's get back to our principles, let's stop the personality decisions that we have and focus on the historic role that we have played, which is a voice for smaller government, not bigger government, not government solutions but free enterprise solutions. while i am also a social conservative, i do believe we have to balance that with the important question, is this a fight that government needs to get in, or is this a role of the church or is this the restraint of government that we need, to not only preach but to practice as well, and that led me to the veto that you described. it is a conservative position to say that is not the role of government. host: reaction from john boehner's book on the sunday programs, including cnn's state of the union. the divided mind and politics of john boehner. tell us what you think about the former speaker's comments. linda is joining us from mississippi, democra

there's a republican governor, republican controlled senate and house. one of the voting restrictions bills has already passed the senate. it's on the way to the house. it appears there's no way to expect it won't pass there. the governor is a vocal supporter of it. in some ways, it feels they've got so much momentum and moving quickly it looks like it's hard for them to stop it. >> i was in the state capital last week. i saw folks who had driven in from dallas and el paso, 18 hours away and points from in between. and folks waited to get their two minutes. it happened more recently, and folks waited until 3:00, 4:00 in the morning to testify. it's that kind of people power, that kind of grassroots activism that can put a stop to this, as it did to the bathroom bill in 2016 when, in concert with big companies, major employers, and who saw their customers in the line of fire and their civil rights being challenged stepped up, stood up, spoke up, and forced the state legislature, along with the people of texas, to do the right thing and effectively withdra

some republicans followed with calls for boycotts. minority leader mitch mcconnell originally warned businesses, quote, will invite serious consequences, end quote, if they don't stay out of politics except, of course, for political donations before walking that idea back. one of my next guests in an op-ed writes, quote, republican elites treat the free market like a tragic casualty of the culture war. the party can no longer call itself fiscally conservative unless it is in pursuit of what the party is counting on. hayes brown, writer and editor for msnbc daily newsletter and erin haynes, founder of the 19th, reporting on gender, politics and policy. thank you for being here. hayes brown, let me start with you. this week has been the weirdest week i have ever seen with republicans chastising corporate ceos and telling them to keep their knows out of politics. republican politics exist because corporate ceos don't keep their nose out of it. >> absolutely. we are coming up on tax day, what normally would be tax day, april 15th. one of

republicans are not going to fall for it and republicans look like they passed up a deal to actually get infrastructure done in a bipartisan way. and i don't think at the engsd of the day they're going to be able to pass this bill with democrat only votes. >> lets me ask you about another issue that's royaling our politics and that is this -- the ceos and corporations who are siding with democrats on voting access bills and also on some other things endorsing for example some of them the biden tax increase, is this a -- do you think a sign of a big divorce between republicans and business? >> well i think it certainly show it is that there's a spat going on. i frankly with all due respect i know a number of people who signed on to that -- to that ad that appear in the washington "the washington post" and "new york times" it was frankly -- we're all in favor of people having a right to vote but so fired up about limitation on voting why were they not demonstrating against the very limited it voting rights opportunities in delaware where most of them are incorporated or very stringent

certainly not a republican. host: how did you treat this election, the jew vote for president biden? caller: i did not. i voted green, chloe hawkins. i would've voted for bernie if you would've gotten the nomination. host: you said you would vote for a liberal democrat, what defines that in your mind? caller: not taking corporate funds, donations. not voting for the corporations. not letting the corporation lobbyists write the law for you and then vote for it. that is the democrat i don't vote for. i'm looking for a bernie sanders kind of democrat that will except small donations from a lot of people. host: bill there giving us the perspective of who he would vote for. you heard our guest talk about people identifying as a democrat versus republicans and asking about that trend. what you think about it regardless of communications. democrats for liberty is the tag of this facebook viewer that says when it comes to that trend it was the former president trump that into effect. encouraging insurrection will likely

support from republican voters, republican voters. unless mitch says the last thing i did, this last piece of legislation is so far left, well, then he ought to take a look at his party. over 50% of them must be over that edge as well because they support what i did. >> they do support it. now republican voters are increasingly not very well represented by their party's reflexive opposition in washington. as more republican voters lean towards biden policies. which raises an important prospect. could biden be to the republican party what reagan was, a leader who found a way to build a following with some of the other parties voters regardless of the d.c. politicians? >> in detroit today, the head of the united auto workers, a union traditionally allied with the democrats says there is support for ronald reagan. >> union leaders say support for ronald reagan is growing as fast as the unemployment lines. >> the appeal directly to working people who have traditionally voted democratic. >> well, this time i am going to vote. and you bette

i s have been a republican since 1980. and i have never been more frustrated with the republican party than i am rightty now. and the new jersey governor chris christie came out and said republicans need to get more aggressive. yes, he is absolutely right, the they are always on the defense and number on the offense. the democrats never apologized for any of the d things that thy have said and this has been an area of frustration when it came out recently that marjorie taylor green was taken off the committee and that's why it they were coming up every day and that includes why kevin mccarthy didn't take them off the intelligence committee. and i wish i had another alternative. >> we are talking about feeling a lot of people in the republican party havey right nw one of the main politicalso characters was president trump he kind of push forward with his agenda and he did get a lot done and he divided it, and he also suffered a lot of criticisms as well. so the voters have demonstratedd well with their own party and some ar

and again, in terms of what's going on with the republican party and the republican party post trump, part of what's important here is in these republican-controlled states, this is republicans in the legislature being cleaved from business interests in those states. they would very much like to see themselves on the same side as those big interests, but they can't unless they decide they want to be on the right side of voting rights, and republicans in these states have decided the opposite. this could be consequential in a lot of ways. >>> on the democratic side of the ledger, today president biden held his first cabinet meeting. this, of course, happened one day after he rolled out his big legislative effort, the big $2 trillion infrastructure bill, which would be the biggest bill in infrastructure since world war ii. we hosted alexandria ocasio-cortez on last night saying while she lauds president biden for putting together what she described in positive terms in terms of the bill and she said on the air that as far as she's concerned, as far as she's concerned of how big it could

in congress are going to have to answer now what's happening the republican party i think is that being anti immigrant. is now part of how they win elections and so you've lost senators like john mccain and jeff flake who used to really drive this agenda for the republican party marco rubio has totally changed his position on immigration and he's inconsistent today with or he was in 2013 when we last went through a comprehensive round for immigration reform in the senate and so i think that the opportunity lies here but let me be clear about one thing which is that democrats have a number of other tools at their disposal if for publicans do not want to engage in bipartisan negotiation and conversation and real engagement to get this done that democrats are not off the hook this year they can no longer go into 2022 next year and. and tell voters that they promised them they're going to promise again and then they're going to deliver in the next term it is no longer a credible argument so sure let's try for bipartisanship let's try to work on something with republicans in the next couple

and while there are some republicans who will meet with him remember there was a group of republicans that met with him back when they were doing the american rescue act the relief plan hope it or early this year so they'll be meetings and they'll be discussions but there's a pretty clear divide that is developed now on almost every major both that comes down there are you if any republicans will vote with the democrats and i doubt that that's one change the president gave a good speech tonight there's no question that it was very nuanced very thoughtful and he did do some outreach to republicans in it but at the end of the day i think you heard the response from senator tim scott who also gave a very powerful speech and tim scott speech suggested that republicans believe that most of that progress most of what's gone well in america at this point was really created by president trump report he left office and put in place and also that they believe it joe biden is dividing america is he and the democrats are on the wrong track i think that that's basically where things are stand at t

single democrat lost to a republican woman or a republican minority. we elected more women in the last election than any time in the republican party. we won from miami to l.a. so to say that i think president bush has walked out back. it doesn't reflect what's happening in congress today. are there some voices off? yes, and we stand up to those but are we having a new voice growing, michelle steel, maria salazar, tony gonzalez. this party is expanding to reflect america and will continue to do so. >> chris: so when marjorie taylor greene says what she says, when paul gosar says what he says? >> congressman mccarthy: if they say something wrong -- look what i've put out when i read what the caucus they wanted to create and what it stood for. i didn't sit back. we denounced it and it did not move forward. >> chris: all right, during the trump impeachment in february during the trial in the senate, a republican congresswoman said this, i want to put it up on the screen. she said while the january 6th wright was in full force, you phoned president trump a

it's hostile to all republican government and when we say republican there we mean small are republican government. what why do they want to make a big point about slavery do you suppose? go ahead. kelly slavery was one of the big differences and one of the primary reasons that caused the south to try to secede a big part of that was because their economy relied so heavily on it. so if you are a republican isolating that difference and seeing that this is something that would be difficult to compromise on. yeah solidifying their opposition to it as a party would probably be like helpful. that's exactly right slavery is the cause of the war slavery is the cause of the rebellion. you want to make sure we don't ever have war again get rid of slavery and so lincoln and the republicans are going to then try to amend the constitution which we ultimately get is the 13th amendment and that will forever end slavery and therefore make it so that we won't have civil war over this issue again, daniel. go ahead. because on number two, it talks about how they're determined not to. not to compromise w