i'm rudy marek. from this, back when i was about 10 or 11 years old -- is 60 years of gunmaking history... >> he was letting go, just understanding that, my time has come. >> i'm over 70 years now, and praise be to god, that from the time i was a little boy, all my dreams that i dreamt about when i was little, have been fulfilled. >> six weeks come and go, along with several more months, time with their father the boys treasure more than any other. >> this was a changed man, from this workaholic, to a soft-hearted, "i want to spend time with my boys." >> does it bring y'all closer together? >> yes, absolutely. my mom and tim and dean and i, just like old times. that was just an amazing blessing. he would give me the biggest bear hug, and say, "i am so proud of you, brian. i am so proud of you boys." >> finally, at the end of a long portland winter, rudy dies at the age of 70. at his funeral, he goes out with a bang. did you fire a cannon that day? >> yeah, we rolled it out there, and fired it off thr

federal investigators have r raraid rudy giuliani's apartment. he's been at the center of a criminal investigation. giuliani denies any wrongdoing, has not been charged, but this underscores and suggests, i should say the months-long probe is advancing. >> cnn report kara scannell, and evan perez are following the story. federal investigators tried and failed in the past to obtain a search warrant. what hank ed. >> reporter: that's the question we're trying tots to. the last time this request was made, which was in the closing months of the previous administration, the deputy attorney general jeff rosen and some of the other top officials of the justice department, they decided that there wasn't enough evidence. they viewed the case wasn't as strong as prosecutors in new york thought, alisyn and victor. here's the issue. the center of this case is what's known as a fara case, the foreign agents registration act, a law the justice department has had trouble with. there's been years-long struggle to try to enforce the law. there's been a new effort

what did stupid rudy do? what did stupid rudy write? what sort of text messages or emails, what sort of stupid things was rudy up to that's now going to implicate me? because donald knows he has enough trouble right now between tish james and the attorney general's office as well as cy vance and the district attorney's office here in new york, forgetting about georgia, forgetting about d.c. with the pick, forgetting about all these other litigations. how about the dozens or so from women with assault cases? he knows that he has all sorts of legal issues. he didn't need more. that's one thing i can sayassur you. he definitely didn't need more and rudy is going to be a treasure-trove. in all fairness, merrick garland is like santa claus, and rudy's devices are going to be like the presents that are waiting for you on christmas day. >> i want to ask you about that, about the merrick garland connection because andrew giuliani has come out publicly and railed against this raid and said it's all a political witch hunt, all motivated by politi

here is andrew rudy giuliani, rudy's son. last night on this show. >> you have proof that no other judges signed the warrant? >> i don't have any proof. do you have any proof that any of the judges would sign the warrant? >> well, i have faith in our system. many of those were trump's appointed judges. >> i read 200 affidavits. that's all i would say about that. i am shocked that the fbi would do this when my father and bob kos stel low, his lawyer were cooperating with them. >> it is corrupt or he'll throw anything out there to see if it sticks, right? the problem is putting the facts aside that shows it all to be not truth, there is a large population latching onto narrative corruption. p putting it out there is very dangerous, is it? >> yeah, they're putting it out there because they know there are a lot of people who'll believe anything they say but of course we all know the investigation began under the trump administration so the idea that it was concocted binomial den's appointee does not make any sense. these are the

rudy will do what rudy needs to do in order to protect himself. what's interesting is where donald turned around and said i never rudy to say that, right? i never directed it. i never. well, where did he learn that word from? he learned it from me when i turned around at my sentencing and i said that i was directed, right, to pay the hush money payment by donald trump. i was directed by him to do it for his benefit. >> let's look at that, michael. >> yeah. >> let's -- let me jump in on that. that's a very important point you raise and there is a connection here, right? mr. giuliani is involved in the very sorted and discredited events around keeping trump in power that led to two impeachments, ukraine and challenging the electors. you were not involved in that stuff, but as you pled to there were a range of offenses. but that was not for your personal benefit. that was work you were doing. as you say, these new york prosecutors here in the southern district, they go hard. they got you to plead on that. but what does it tell you that being a lawyer

rudy is central here. he was never in the trump administration, but i think it's fair to say that sort of one of the most prominent influential figures that was not on the payroll but close to then president trump, john. >> paula reed, for more of the legal perspective, there are things we know and always things we don't know, and i say that in the context that we know two former guiliani associates are already facing federal charges and the question is what did they know about guiliani's role, and what evidence did they know, what would investigators learn that might lead them to more? and then the justice department shuts down because of the investigations of political people are off limits in the closing days of the election, so there's some knowledge where we could base the idea that we know they were looking at this and then there's another part of we're not sure, and so this could include materials we don't know about? >> yeah, and the heart of the investigation or questions about whether or not rudy

rudy was really a driving force behind the first impeachment. rudy did two things, first of all. he pressured trump to fire or remove the u.s. ambassador to ukraine, marie yovanovitch. we know because donald trump bragged about that in his infamous july 25th phone call to the ukranian president. he said this. rudy knows what's happening and he's a very capable guy. if you could speak to him, that would be great. the former ambassador of the united states, the woman was bad news. now, this could be what the search warrant we saw this week was all about. if rudy was lobbying on behalf of ukranians to get rid of the ambassador but he did not register as a foreign lobbyist, that could be a federal crime. rudy also was involved in pressuring the ukranian government to open and announce investigations of the bidens. donald trump also announced this. he said, i will tell rudy and attorney general barr to call to the ukranian president. rudy ended up going on the chris cuomo show, we all remember this, and making these stunning admissions. okay. ly -- we all remember this. this is when r

even get rudy, guess we live in a nation without laws." and isn't that the point, though that no one's above the law and the president's lawyer gets the same treatment as everyone else? i never understood this argument from republicans they said the same thing during trump's impeachment. "if they can do this to the president, they can do it to you. yeah, that's how it works. these guys are genuinely shocked to find out that no one is above the law. "oh, what's next, is my father gonna start getting tickets for parking his car on the bqe don't worry, i left a note." rudy has denied the allegations, so who knows what will happen going forward. but it is obviously not a small thing for the feds to decide there's enough evidence to raid the home and office of one of the former president's closest confidants when the feds showed up to rudy's apartment to take his phone, he was probably like -- >> it's all here right here♪ we'll be right back with justin theroux ♪ (vo) ideas exist inside you, electrify you. they grow from our imagination, bu

i want to bring in now david lee miller outside of rudy giuliani's apartment in new york city. david lee, give us the facts as you know them. >> harris, at this hour we are outside mr. giuliani's apartment on the upper east side of manhattan, i'm only a very quiet, residential neighborhood and as you can see we are going to pan around here for a second and you can see there are now half a dozen news crews that have assembled here outside his apartment building, we are told that mr. giuliani is actually home right now and that the federal authorities who executed the search warrant in this building behind me actually have now left to. according to multiple reports and a confirmation now that we've received from mr. giuliani's attorney, the federal authorities did search his home and apparently they did take away several electronic devices. there are multiple reports that authorities were seeking to look at his phones, this search warrant came about according to a number of reports because authorities have been investigating two men who are associates who are now going to be on t

rudy seems to think so. and if it is, why was an american president placing russian interests ahead of stated and written u.s. anti-corruption policy in ukraine? or option 2, was it the interests of corrupt pro-russian ukrainians that giuliani was pursuing? and did they pay him for his services? his skillful and ultimately vast body of work, that included a lot of successes for those corrupt pro-russian ukrainian interests. firing yovanovitch. holding up congressionally approved u.s. military aid for ukraine. did rudy just hand over these big, big huge items to be nice, because he liked them? or was there some monetary reward for rudy for delivering. one answer was a crime, the other, a national security crisis. and we may very well be on our away to learning the truth. the fork in the road for rudy giuliani is where we start this hour with some of our favorite reporters and friend. katie bennett is here, "the new york times" justice reporter. we're very happy and proud to say now that she's an msnbc contrib

rudy to this day doesn't know that. >> you said this classic rudy sanctimony. on his radio show today, he said i've done your job longer and better than you have. you people have convictions like i had, a person like me in the attorney's office since i left. no wonder you're jealous! but that's -- that ego, people say what happened to rudy, that's been the guy for 40 years. >> i mean, september 10th, 2001, i was by city hall. i watched rudy come down the steps with his entourage. not a single person said hello. no one noticed him. the tourist didn't take his picture. everybody was tired of him. all his antics, all the stuff with his girlfriends and lies and craziness. it was done. it was over. next morning was a very bad morning, as everybody knows. two days later, i'm just down there and i get a call from the city saying we want you to write about rudy giuliani. i said why? and they said he's like the face of 9/11. i said, what are you talking about? i haven't seen him. they said, he was the face of it. everybody decided this is mr. new york. i mean, the reaso

i have a question, though, a distinction with rudy giuliani. and just to note he might not be returning your calls because his phone devices were taken away. that was what took me so long to get ahold of michael cohen during the raid on him. when you're looking at rudy giuliani, was he attackically his lawyer? was he on a retainer or was he a pr guy, a fixer? that distinction, i would think, would be pretty critical when he is trying to argue attorney-client privilege. >> i think that's a really important point. for the longest time he described himself as the president's personal attorney, and then recently, in kind of the final months of president trump's presidency, jason miller made it quite clear that he was no longer representing the president officially. and so i think that those lines were always very murky, katy, and that's undoubtedly one of the things investigators are going to be delving into, as they search not only through his personal and business dealings but as they try to get to the bottom of exactly what was happening in ukra

that rudy, that rudy had a really rough day today because, at 6 am this morning his home in office were raided by the fbi is part of an investigation into whether he broke foreign lobbying laws. the fbi seized his cell phone, computers, new york times quote one of the warrants for mr. rudy giuliani's devices indicated that they were searching for communications between him and ukrainian officials. i should also tell you it appears that the u.s. attorney in manhattan had tried for months to get the department of justice to approve the search warrants but those efforts were rebuffed quote, under mr. trump, senior political appointees in the justice department repeatedly sought to block the warrants. slowing the investigation as it was gaining momentum last year. after merrick garland was confirmed as biden's attorney general, the justice department lifted its objections. to serve a warrant on a lawyers no small thing, to serve a lawyer on rudy giuliani that is something else entirely. there's still a lot we don't know, here to make sense of all of its, to reporters arrive extensively repo

. ♪ ♪ >>> "outfront" next, rudy giuliani speaks out. what he's saying about the raid on his home and office and will he turn on donald trump? his son, andrew, is my next. >>> bodies burned, day and night. makeshift crematoriums, as the pandemic devastates india. tonight, cnn is on the ground, as the united states is scrambling to provide any help. >>> a new witness speaks out to cnn what she saw before deputies shot and killed andrew brown, jr., in north carolina. her account is head. let's go "outfront." >>> good evening. i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, preparing for battle. federal authorities now bracing for trump's ally and personal attorney to fight them in court for the electronic devices seized from his home and office. tonight, giuliani is speaking for the first time about the extraordinary raid. >> truth will win out. these bullies can't get me down. just can't happen. >> and in another sign that this investigation into giuliani is growing, giuliani's assistant has now been subpoenaed to appear before a grand jury. also t

rudy, bill barr. bill barr acknowledged an intake process to vet the information. barr had a process set up for the united states department of justice to intake information that was coming through rudy from ukrainian oligarchs with ties to putin. what is wrong with that? start at the beginning, chuck. >> start at the beginning and go for the next several hours, nicolle. what's wrong with it is that rudy giuliani was probably the singlemost uninformed and unreliable source of information imaginable. as we see this play out now, he was a conduit of information for russian intelligence, which is absolutely astonishing. if you just stop there, russian intelligence was influencing the information that rudy giuliani was feeding to the justice department to try to seek dirt on a political opponent of the president of the united states. so, maybe bill barr, and i'm done with giving him the benefit of the doubt, was trying to move giuliani out of the way and set up a separate channel for all the nonsense he w

reporting breaking news on rudy giuliani. rudy giuliani just saw his home and office raided early this morning by the feds. a major escalation in a criminal probe of the prominent trump lawyer by the legal office he used to lead as a prosecutor. this is a major story. we're going to walk you through what it means tonight right now. it is definitely bad news for giuliani. and it may prove to be bad news for donald trump. now we're learning a lot about what giuliani faces. the feds executed a lawful search warrant, which means a judge determined they have reason to believe that giuliani has evidence of a crime. investigators seizing his phone and other electronics including his laptop and ipad. the building doorman escorted the feds into giuliani's new york city apartment. we know the probe includes alleged crimes regarding the first election plot that got trump impeached back in the day, the og impeachment. it was a sorted and failed effort to get ukraine, a foreign country to meddle in our election by ginning up a fake invest

now it's rudy giuliani. he's the successor, being investigated by the senior's attorney's office he used to lead in the southern district of new york. prosecutors are reportedly interested and whether he broke lobbying laws by working as an and registered foreign agent by serving the president as his personal lawyer. this evening, the new york times reported investigators are exploring whether he pushed for the removal of the ambassador of ukraine in 2019 marie ivanovich on behalf of trump or whether he was also serving the interest of ukrainian officials an act that could violate federal law. during mr. trump's impeachment hearings in late 2019, she told lawmakers she made minimal contact. i do not know mr. giuliani's motives for attacking, neither individuals have been named in the press to have contact with mr. giuliani may well believe it personal and financial ambitions were stymied by our anti-corruption policy in ukraine. the fbi seized cellphones and computers from rudy giuliani's homes and office in

rudy is complaining that politics were involved. maybe they were but only in the sense when bill barr was the attorney general, they didn't want these search warrants to see the light of day. that's why this took so song. >> the former president coming out in defense of giuliani today, their friendship and their loyalty to each other seems to be well known. it's certainly weathered a lot already, hasn't it? >> no question about it. i think that alarm bells are going off down at mar-a-lago. there is no evidence that this particular case against rudy giuliani will lead to donald trump, but it does bring it to the doorstep of the trump inner circle. you have to wonder as we heard from michael cohen, another lawyer of donald trump's who went to jail, if charges are made, if the case goes forward, if there is pressure on rudy giuliani, if he is afraid that he is going to be seeing jail time, then is he going to make a deal? i think it also has to worry donald trump that this justice department is willing to come after his lawyer. >> i'm

attorney rudy giuliani. sources have confirmed to nbc news that giuliani's apartment was -- there was a search warrant and federal officials officially went inside his apartment and commandeered some things that they needed thanks to an fbi search warrant. jonathan dienst reported just moments ago that it appears two locations were actuall

federal authorities today rated rudy guiliani's manhattan apartment. prosecutors aobtained a search warrant, and i want to bring in cnn legal affairs correspondent, paula reed, and laura coates is with us as well. what do we know? >> truly an extraordinary development in the ongoing investigation, looking at whether mr. guiliani was lobbying on behalf of officials in the ukraine while serving as former president trump's personal attorney. if you are lobbyinging on behalf of foreign entities, you have to disclose that with the federal justice department. under the trump administration, this really took on new significance, particularly with the president's former campaign chairman, paul manafort. here they are looking at whether guiliani failed to disclose lobbying activities in ukraine. i have to note, it's so unusual for federal investigators and agents to execute a search for a former mayor, and they are looking at whether he failed to disclose if he was lobbying, and a lot of questions now about whether this investigation has expanded and exactly wh

rudy giuliani's home, rudy giuliani's office, rudy giuliani's computers and rudy giuliani's cell phones. a federal judge assessed the evidence in the worn statement and concluded that the prosecutors and fbi agents had satisfied the probable cause standard and that's why the warrant was issued. now, in order circumstances, steph, this is a rigorous process. when it has to do with a search warrant for a lawyer's office and home and that lawyer is the president's attorney or former president's attorney, the scrutiny is heightened. so i'm going to go with the federal judge's assessment rather than rudy giuliani's lawyers. >> frank, i know you don't have firsthand knowledge of this specific situation, but they picked up cell phones and computers. what does that tell you they're looking for? >> certainly, they're looking for evidence in the federal crime. but here's the con gesture, here's what it looks like this is about. clearly one of the charges that's being contemplated would be foreign agent's legislation act, failure to tell the government i'm looking for a foreign individual. but thi

rudy hasn't offered one himself. no reason for why he's been doing what he's doing to stay close to donald trump, and stay relevant for these last several years. so, maybe this investigation can find some answers for that. maybe it's something you don't. no it is kind of stunning to watch someone just been out of control. as you said, he finds himself at every low moment in the strangest places, and a borat movie. you know, in the ukraine, at a place drunk on bloody marys. he is everywhere, ruining everything. i keep thinking back to something i did at the, end the summer of this last campaign, talking to senior officials of the trump campaign. he told me that controlling -- and keeping tabs on, and making sure he's busy. that is so fascinating to me. you can't say he ruined the trump campaign, but it does offer some explanation for part of what went wrong. >> yeah, spencer ackerman likely grew up in new york city. he tweeted that he wanted to go back until the teenage version of me that rudy giuliani just got raided

, dam mitt rudy, every time rudy gets involved he goes and fs everything up. >> what do you think he meant by his characterization of giuliani as a hand grenade. >> the investigations that he was promoting, the story line he was promoting, the narrative he was promoting was going to backfire. i think it has backfired. >> the he in that case is john bolton. i want to thank nicole wallace's team who put that mashup together. >> michael, can you give us a sense of what do we know about the contours? we know this is about foreign lobbying without perfect police. we presumed this is basically along the same lines of the impeachment, right? the contents of the first impeachment? >> and tied in with the case of lev parnas which came up several years ago. this is something that's been going on for a long time. the impeachment of trump was in -- it was the end of 2019, the beginning of 2020. it's hard to keep track, like i said, with the first impeachment and the second one and the such and the character. it's good to have a refresher. >> yes. >> this is an investigation that's been going on

this is now a focus of the criminal investigation of rudy giuliani. inves tigation of rudy>> i do not und. giuliani's motives for attacking me. nor can i offer an opinion on whether he believes the allegations he spread about me. clearly, no one of the state department did. what i can say is mr. giuliani should have known those claims were suspect, coming as they reportedly did from individuals with questionable motives and with reason to believe their political and financial ambitions would be stymied by our anti-corruption policy in ukraine. >> and congressman, the post reporting tonight that indeed rudy giuliani was told by the fbi who he was really dealing with. >> and he didn't care, it didn't stop him, and he persisted, just like ron johnson in that same story also received a defensive briefing, and he didn't care, and he persisted with his investigations. the fish runs from the head down. if you believe the principal donald trump is okay with this, and his justice department is going to look the other way, why not continue to engage with the uk

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that's exactly who was involved in this raid of rudy giuliani's apartment. what is your reaction to all of that that's coming out now in the southern district? >> well, i think it's pretty clear that this is the parallel grifting that rudy giuliani was doing while he was doing the political bidding of donald trump that led to trump's impeachment. and i thought that something that marie owe vanvich said there is very noteworthy. she characterized the ukrainian officials, the suspect ukrainian officials as having both political and financial interests. and we heard that over and over as we were doing the ukraine investigation, that ordinarily in ukraine, if there is corruption and they are doing as much as they can to rid themselves of rampant corruption, there is often a political component and there is often a financial component. and if rudy giuliani was as reported tonight and we have heard before, if he was notified, and if the trump administration was notified, as was reported many months ago, that the fbi believed that rudy giuliani was being used for d

let's listen. >> rudy giuliani is a great patriot. he does these things -- he just loves this country. and they raid his apartment? it's like so unfair and such a double -- it's like a double standard. like i don't think anybody has ever seen before. it's very, very unfair. >> what do you think, olivia? >> well, i imagine that donald trump is watching this unfurl and thinking, what if i'm next? he, obviously, the former president is the focus himself of some investigations in new york and elsewhere. and i think that, you know, cocooned in mar-a-lago, this is something that's been on his mind for a while now. and as the circle gets closer and closer, and as investigators seem to be getting people who are close to -- genuinely close to him like rudy giuliani, i imagine it's making him quite nervous. and also rudy is someone he's had an extremely long relationship with. in the white house, he was often defined by these different loyalty fights and donald trump is has a very long memory. and rudy giuliani was always someone in his good gr

attorney rudy giuliani. sources have confirmed to nbc news that giuliani's apartment was -- there was a search warrant and federal officials officially went inside his apartment and commandeered some things that they needed thanks to an fbi search warrant. jonathan dienst reported just moments ago that it appears two locations were actually searched. this development represents a significant escalation in a criminal investigation stemming from giuliani's dealings with ukraine because it means a judge would have had to approve a search warrant on the basis that it is reasonably likely a search would turn up evidence that a crime was committed. this obviously is a major developing story. we're going to bring you the latest on what we know, the facts in just a moment and try to keep the punditry to a minimum. in the meantime we are just hours away from president biden's first address before a joint session of congress and his 99th day in office. this news will obviously kind 6 at least overshadow things here in

>> yeah, this is getting real for rudy giuliani real quick. as you said it is really unusual for doj to search the office of any attorney, never mind an attorney for the former president. there are a couple of real important things that we know for sure. first of all, prosecutors have what we call probable cause. probable cause meaning there is a crime committed and they would find evidence of that crime in rudy giuliani's home and office. we know this had to be approved under doj policies at the highest level of doj and third, we know the federal judge r reviewed the application and approved it and agreed there is probable cause that a crime is committed and the evidence is in rudy giuliani's home. it is not quite a charge yet but those are serious findings. >> it is important that it is a federal judge. it is a significant that people understand. william, what are you able to tell me about the search warrant that was executed at the washington home of another trump ally who stood up for him all this. victoria tungsen. you know ther-- we know

you're tracking all the late breaking news on rudy giuliani. >> reporter: rudy giuliani is not staying quiet. he is speaking out on tv, on his radio show and railing against the raid that agents conducted on his home and office. the feds are zeroing in on giuliani's role ousting ambassador marie yovanovitch. new deetails into the investigation of rudy giuliani. the "new york times" now reports at least one of the search warrants served wednesday sought information related to the former ambassador to you crane marie yovanovitch. the same marie yovanovitch former president trump fired in 2019 and who testified as a witness in his first impeachment trial. >> our ukraine policy has been thrown into disarray and shady interests the world over have learned how little it takes to remove an american ambassador who does not give them what they want. >> reporter: investigators want to determine if giuliani worked to get yovanovitch ousted from her position to benefit trump. it's all part of a long-running criminal investigation into giuliani and an inquiry into whether he worked as an unregister

he chose rudy giuliani over his own fbi director. he chose rudy giuliani over his own national security advisors. when all of them were telling him this ukraine 2016 stuff is kooky crazy russian propaganda, he chose not to believe them, he chose to believe rudy giuliani. that makes him dangerous. >> so, congressman schiff, i have to ask you, and i'm being very serious about this, because this is a danger to the united states and these people are still walking around free. do you feel vindicated? do you feel that what you predicted is finally coming to fruition. how do you feel about these recent reports and this recent raid? >> it's sad because we had the opportunity in that first impeachment to remove the danger. it didn't take any great intelligence to see that if he wasn't removed that he would go ahead and try to cheat in the next election, which is exactly what he did. but with respect to rudy giuliani, as a result of our investigation we learned that giuliani was working with these corrupt ukranians in an effort to smear joe bi

gloat, but, rudy, i told you so. i told you so. >> what do you mean? what did you tell him? >> well, i -- what i told him was that donald trump doesn't care about anyone or anything, that he will be the next one to be thrown under the bus, and that's exactly what's going to happen. >> obviously we've got a lot more on this tonight. you need to stay tuned because detail after detail. that story and the gaetz story. >>> and it comes as america is grappling with what kind of country we are now and what kind of country we want to be going forward, especially when it comes to race. president biden saying this tonight. >> no, i don't think the american people are racist. but i think after 400 years, african-americans have been left in a position where they are so far behind the eight ball in terms of education, health, in terms of opportunity, i think the overhang from all of the jim crow and before that slavery have had a cost, and we have to deal with it. >> let me ask you this. what kind of america do we want? what kind

and then, we have rudy giuliani. >>> rudy giuliani, as you know, the former-president's former lawyer goes on the fox-propaganda network, of course, on the day after federal agents executed search warrants to his apartment and his office to try to defend himself by publicly challenging the justice department. watch this. >> i have known about this for two years, tucker. i could've destroyed the eviden evidence -- i didn't destroy the evidence because the evidence is exculpatory. it proves the president and i and all of us are innocent. they're the ones committing -- it's like -- it's like projection. they are committing the crimes. >> that, after giuliani's son, andrew, tells our erin burnett tonight that he is confident that his father did everything on the up and up, as it relates to the disgraced, twice-impeached, one-term, former president. >> i'm very confident my dad did everything -- everything that he did, on the up and up. so that's where i will leave it there. i trust him. i trust his relationship with the president. and i know he's -- he's a man of integrity, when it comes

today executed search warrants at rudy giuliani's manhattan apartment and his office. agents seized mr. giuliani's electronic devices. one source close to mr. giuliani tells nbc news that those included a mobile phone, a laptop and an ipad. the investigation reportedly revolves around mr. giuliani's dealings in ukraine. you will recall that before he was peddling conspiracy theories about the november election being stolen, he was peddling conspiracy theories about joe biden and the biden family and supposedly nefarious dealings in the nation of ukraine. donald trump, of course, was impeached for pressuring ukraine's president to announce an investigation into the made-up biden scandals that giuliani was promoting. at least two of the people giuliani worked with on his efforts to manufacture biden-related scandals have since been sanctioned by the u.s. government was foreign agents working on behalf of russia. another of giuliani's sources for his get biden project was a ukrainian oligarch named dmitry firtash who's wanted for bribery and corruption charges. one americ

she was working closely with rudy giuliani on other issues. it does suggest a big escalation moving forward in this case. i should note one other thing that happened. rudy giuliani's personal assistant was subpoenaed to testify before a grand jury. that's a big deal because it's just a human interview and allowing for fresh information, but it suggests that it's not simply restricted to activity rudy giuliani himself was doing but what could have been done on his behalf. any way you look at it, this is a step forward. >> maggie, great to have you this morning. thank you. >> thanks, guys. >>> this isn't the only trouble facing rudy giuliani. our experts are here to break down what happens next. >>> and dramatic video on officers who were assaulted defending the capitol during the insurrection. new projects means new project managers. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. when you sponsor a job, you immediately get your shortlist of quality candidates, whose resumes on indeed match your job criteria. visit indeed.com/hire and get start

why was rudy giuliani going to ukraine? he was going there principally to gather dirt on former president trump's opponent, joe biden, his son, hunter biden. in doing so he was willing to deal with folks who had skin in the game. that is russian-tied ukrainians, folks known to be working for russian intelligence who were part of a deliberate disinformation campaign targeting joe biden and the election much as they targeted hillary clinton in 2016. so the bigger picture here is the president's personal attorney's role, willful role it seemed, in a foreign disinformation campaign targeting the 2020 election. so it's about more than seedy business dealings and coming afoul of foreign lobbying law. it's bigger picture here. and his role and the president's encouragement of his work working with folks in ukraine tied with russian intelligence. >> andrew, what exactly do you think investigators are looking for in this raid of giuliani's home and office? we know investigators seized electronic devices. >> well, first and foremost,

but that is what rudy giuliani did. what is interesting is the one electronic device the feds didn't seize, the fbi did not take, was a copy of hunter biden's hard drive from his laptop. he had a copy of that in his apartment. at one point, they picked it up and looked at it but when rudy giuliani told them where it came from, it came from hunter biden, they put it down. it was one thing they didn't want and that is very strange if you think about it the justice department is now telling us that rudy giuliani was somehow involved in tampering with our democracy. russia, by implication was involved. see you would think they would want to examine rudy giuliani's own copy of hunter biden's laptop. why? because hunter biden himself just told us on television that that laptop and hard drive could be tied to russian intelligence. all of the photoshopped pictures of hunter biden smoking fake russian crack with those fake russian hookers. so why wouldn't he want his own copy of that? well, you would think they would, because as

investigators break -- raided the new york apartment of rudy giuliani over his business dealings with ukraine. >> who's at the heart of it? the prime minister, major sleeze sitting there. >> boris johnson under growing pressure with renovations to his downy suite flat and reports of callus comments. >> and clashes in colombia as protesters defy a ban on gatherings to rally against tax reforms. india has reported another record number of coronavirus deaths. a devastating second wave continues to overwhelm health facilities. another 3293 fatalities reported on wednesday pushing the official death toll past 200,000. it is the fourth country to reach that mark, but experts fear the true number is actually far higher. the past 24 hours also brought more than 360,000 cases, the world's largest single day total yet, taking india's overall infection since the pandemic began to nearly 18 million. the world health organization says in the past week india accounted for 38% of the world's 5 million cases. elizabeth peron reports from new delhi. >> after failing to find help in medical facilities,

he was reliant on rudy giuliani for a lot of things. one interesting thing to watch is how republicans respond to the latest step in the investigation of giuliani and how they respond to giuliani in particular if charges do come. charges may never come but thud that happen, it will be interesting to see if it impacts the way republican feel about trump and the trump orbit. the former president is still a popular figure amongst republicans and a powerful person in the party. he intends to be moving forward. it will be interesting to see whether this sort of investigation impacts his ability to have that kind of clout. >> ron, finally being before i let you go, have we gotten any updates? do we know whether or not rudy giuliani has begun speaking? >> reporter: no, we're not hearing anything on the radio program. and the tweet that some of that reporting is based upon has since been deleted, ind. we're trying to figure out what's going on with all of that. we've reached ut to his attorney and have not heard back from rudy giuliani's attorn

rudy guliani is in the building behind me. he's got a radio show. we understand he's doing that remotely from his home. at this time he may be addressing what happened in the last few hours. at you pointed out at 6:00 a.m., the authorities executed a search warrant at his home. took about two hours. there were seven fbi agents. they took with him various electronic equipment including cell phones and laptop computers. the attorney for mr. guliani described what took place here quoting him now as legal thuggery. he told us this is totally unnecessary and he added that mr. guliani in fact wanted to destroy any of the items that were taken. he had that opportunity to do so months ago, but he did not do so because in the words of his attorney, he has nothing to hide. now, it's not entirely clear what the authorities are looking for here. based on the legal documents according to his attorney, the authorities are investigating whether mr. guliani violated the foreign agents registration act which says you can't act as a lobbying representative for a fore

so, you know, rudy is now saying this is all political. for those of us who lived in the world of facts and reason, we can see that what's going on here is that there is a segment of the republican party, and rudy giuliani is a part of it, that doesn't want to believe anything the u.s. intelligence community tells them, even when it's career fbi agents from the counterintelligence division. he's now being investigated for his dealings in ukraine, and into the question of whether he tried to influence u.s. policy on behalf of foreigners, essentially whether he was an unregistered foreign agent, katy. >> so, phil rucker, your paper was the first to report that rudy giuliani himself was personally warned, but the white house was also warned about giuliani and about what he was doing in ukraine back in 2019 by the intelligence community. bring us up to speed. >> that's exactly right, katy. not only was the white house warned but president trump was warned by his national security advisor, robert o'brien, that information provided by rudy giuli

in my new hopefully very long-running segment, "rudy, rudy, fresh and scrooty." >> no, no, i'm america's mayor. ( farting ). >> stephen: this raid is a big deal. the f.b.i. doesn't just pop in to your apartment to borrow a cup of justice. it means there's probable cause that giuliani committed a federal crime. oh, tough break for rudy, the only lawyer dumb enough to defend him just got raided by the feds. which of rudy, cousin-kissing idiot caper is this for? it goes back to the latest or last presidential election and rudy's attempt to dig up dirt on hunter biden in ukraine with lev parnas and igor fruman, the new cover models for ogar goon monthly. they were arrested in 2019 and that investigati led to questions about whether rudy helped them illegally lobby the last administration on behalf of ukrainian officials and oligarchs. we don't know if those two guys tipped off the feds. it could have been anyone. rudy is constantly dealing with leaks. prosecutors are about to learn more about rudy's involvement in ukraine, because during today's raid, they seized his electronic devices. oh,

giuliani is rudy giuliani here, and whether or not that's the one thing on the warrant as rudy giuliani likes to say, andy, that doesn't mean that's his only area of jeopardy. that doesn't mean that's all that the februarbi could charge for after, is that right? >> that's right. all we know now is they had enough to convince a judge that there's probable cause to believe there's evidence of a fara or foreign agents registration act violation in the office. whatever else they find is the direction that they go. in other words, if they find communications between mr. giuliani and others in ukraine, the united states, business associates, maybe they find contracts or documents that are revealing of other activity that could lead to all kinds of other federal charges, that's where the case really blows up and gets much bigger. >> we'll stay tuned for that. former fbi director, andy mccabe. >>> let's discuss the legal road ahead, which sounds like it will be a long one for rudy giuliani. paul, starting with you here, let's hear what giuliani said and get your take on his claim that the searc

rudy giuliani was his personal lawyer as far as i know. that's something that will be litigated and talked about and assuming there's information that falls into that category. >> giuliani hasn't said anything publicly about this to my knowledge but his son andrew a former white house aide and also is considering running for governor of new york came out and spoke to the media not long ago and said this showed an out-of-control justice department, the politicization of the justice department and that the federal agents seized everything in the apartment except the one thing that was actually incriminating, and that thing was not incriminating of his father, rudy giuliani, but was incriminating of hunter biden. what's your reaction? >> look, i've overseen, you know, lots and lots of prosecutions. when prosecutors and agents take an investigative step or bring a charge, they are infrequently sent flowers and chocolates from their targets. that is a thing that people say. that is the thing that the relatives of people say. that is a thing tha

is he right, that rudy giuliani is in big trouble, and after you answer that? i'm curious as to what you think the chances are rudy will flip? >> i totally agree with that. from america's mayor to being americas crazy ankle, to not being america's most wanted, rudy giuliani has truly done it all. i think what you heard michael cohen say is, look, in any ordinary orange or raid by the fbi, that's already serious enough. the barrier was a lot more than just that, brian. to get a warrant normally, you need a federal judge to say there is probable cause, a crime has been committed. you've got that. here, they were also searching in attorney's office. you need a very high level justice department approval, maybe the attorney general themselves or the deputy attorney general. then you have it's, not just any attorney search, it's a surge of the president of the united states attorney. the barrier to getting a warrant was sky-high, and yet they got one anyway. that suggests the real seriousness of the investigation. and rudy giuliani's defense tonight, which you play,

. >>> the investigation into rudy giuliani ramping up in a big way. now we're learning it might all be about one specific official whom president trump fired. >>> plus, another state in the united states on the verge of passing a law adding new limits to mail-in voting, and it's a battleground state that trump won in 2020. welcome to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. we begin with breaking news in the health lead. the white house just announced that the u.s. will start restricting travel to the u.s. from india because the covid crisis there in india is so devastating. cnn's kaitlan collins joins us now from the white house with this breaking news of the kaitlan, when exactly do these restrictions go into effect, and tell us who is impacted. >> jake, they are not going into effect immediately. this is not starting until actually 12:01 a.m. on tuesday, may 4th. that's when you'll start seeing this go into place and that should be clear that does not apply to u.s. citizen. if you're a u.s. citizen you can still come into the country. the international testing

prior to donald being president rudy didn't like donald and donald didn't like rudy. do i think he'll give up donald in a heart beat? absolutely. >> so michael cohen spent time in jail. at the end of his association with donald trump. this is another associate of donald trump but perhaps the trumpiest of all rudy giuliani was traveling the country. i think he caught covid at the time peddling the big lie behind the story we started the hour with. and i wonder what you make of this enduring question because so many people in the trump circle and the justice system that rudy now will be questioning and wondering whether or not he flips on the president as michael cohen's construct there. >> it's a big question. the first big question is how much trouble legally is rudy giuliani really in. second question is how's he going to possibly try to get out of that legal trouble if it means talking about his dealings with the president, the things that aren't covered by attorney/client privilege it means dealing out other names close to president trump that might be a role. reme

>> do i think rudy will give up donald in a heartbeat? absolutely. >> do you think donald trump is scared? >> absolutely. he has enough trouble now here in new york for getting about georgia, d.c. he knows he has all sorts of legal issues. he didn't need more. i can assure you. rudy is going to be a treasure trove. >> and here was former president trump donald trump's reaction to the news of the giuliani raid. >> rudy giuliani is a break patriot. he does these things and just loves this country. they raid his apartment. it is so unfair, like a double standarded like i don't think anybody has seen before. >> okay. we are going to set that aside. joining us now, cofounder of punch bowl news. there's a lot here, the justice department clearly moving forward with this raid. the president told us he didn't know about it. but this is the kind of thing that would have had to have been authorized at the very highest levels of the justice department. have we heard anything from former president trump's defenders about this raid. what do you make t

he's referred to as former mayor rudy giuliani. i don't think you can separate out the politics of how he's going to try to portray himself. he's still going back to america's mayor. >> it's been a long time. it's been a long time since he was doing that, and a lot el has happened since then that he's been in the middle of. what does this mean for trump world? do you have a sense of how nervous they are this morning? >> first of all, guess what? we have not heard from donald trump. crickets. but i think that donald trump and the people around him have to be saying to themselves, if the justice department is willing to do this -- and let's just say we have no evidence that donald trump is in any way connected in this particular case -- but to go back to the justice department threshold, trump has to be wondering where else is this justice department willing to go. and he's been keeping a pretty low profile. he's made two speeches. but he's played a lot of golf. and where is this media plat fofrm he has said he's going to launch? i t

oh, no, rudy, ya dope. you're supposed to have pipes. also, president biden delivered his first address to a joint session of congress tonight, and we're taping this beforehand so we don't know what he said, but something tells me had a slightly different energy than the speeches he attended as president obama's vp where he was always doing stuff like grabbing john boehner's arm or giving finger guns to people in the crowd like he was walking around a villa in miami beach, making sure everyone at the pool party was having fun "cam, that glass looks empty you need a refill? stacy, i better see you in the pool later i got the jets turned on brad, throw another dog on the grill for me i worked up an appetite kicking steve's ass in volleyball. you got to work on that dig, steve. but one thing we do know about biden's speech is that he is very likely spent some time touting his infrastructure plan. and as he pitches that plan, he's also dealing with an intransigent gop that has its own ideas for infrastructure a gop that's also trying to rebr