we must use nato even more. to address our differences, forge a common understanding, and coordinate our responses. military, economic, and diplomatic. second, we will boost our commitment to our collective defense against -- since 2014, we have implemented the largest reinforcement to our collective defense in degeneration. enhancing our ability to defend our land, at sea, in the air, in cyberspace, and in space. we will rapidly and fully implement our plan to strengthen our military posture, continuing to increase -- monetize our capabilities and invest more in our collective nests -- collective nests. strong militaries are important, but strong societies are our first line of defense. so you must raise the level of ambition when it comes to resilience. our third aim is therefore to develop -- and work to transfer them to concrete national goals. to protect our critical infrastructure, make our society less vulnerable to attacks and ensure our militaries can operate in peace, crisis, and conflict. fourth, we m

we stand together in nato. this is what nato 2030 is about, standing strong together. and it is good to know that our recent polling confirms over 80% of our citizens consider the relationship between north america and europe important in dealing with security challenges. this makes and ambitious nato 2030 agenda even more relevant. let me therefore outline the key areas. first, we will strengthen nato as the unique and indispensable form for transatlantic consultations. on all issues that affect transatlantic security, including for instance, on syria, iran, or the south china sea. because nato is not just a military alliance. we are a political military alliance. even when we may not take military action our political , unity matters. so, we must use nato even more, to address our differences, forge a common understanding, and coordinate our responses. military, economic, and diplomatic. second, we will boost our commitment to our collective defense against all threats. since 2014, we have implemented the largest reinforcement to our collective defense in a generatio

nato - his region? no. i would not agree to that. nato has - agree to that. nato has actually triggered by the legal annexation by crimea implemented the biggest reinforcement of collective defence in a generation. for the first time in our history, we are backing groups in the eastern part of the alliance, we are bringing in the readiness fourth and we have allies investing since the end of the cold war. this is important changes of how nato is responding to the aggressive actions of russia against ukraine, georgia and other countries. ukraine, georgia and other countries-— countries. but look at your record over _ countries. but look at your record over the _ countries. but look at your record over the last - countries. but look at your record over the last seven | record over the last seven years, mr secretary general. vladimir putin's forces still in ukraine, vladimir putin is backing the belarusian campaign despite all the pressures that the west is trying to bring to bear on that situation, vladimir putin is ramping up military deployments in the arct

we are also listening for what he says about nato, because his approach to nato is decidedly different to the one at donald trump took on occasions. that's coming up in the next few minutes. many others had bright weather with spells of sunshine coming through. the best of it has been across southern england, at times the midlands and east anglia, too. it has been the hottest day of the year so far, with temperatures around the greater london area, peaking at about 29 celsius. the heat was more confined, really, to southern england, the midlands and east anglia, because we had a stripe of cloud, disintegrating cloud, a very weak weather front. there was no weather on it as such. but it did bring much cooler conditions to northern areas. the giants causeway, northern ireland, recorded northern ireland's highest temperature of the year. today it has been about 12 celsius cooler. we had a similar cooldown across the northern half of the uk. overnight tonight, it is going to be a dry night. there are going to be a dry night. there are going to be a dry night. there are going to patches of

s. perceived nato. it's less about does nato represent your interest and more about nato, which basically does whatever the us once to do. do you as other countries contribute a small amount but in name? so we have this idea of allegiance and alliances that whenever the u. s. or nato moves into some kind of either battlefield in terms of actual warfare, a cold war battlefield, or even a cyber warfare, a battlefield. because that's now the new mission of mate of nato, is to be focused on cyber attacks and the digital frontier. when nato takes those steps, part of this is about just saying, hey, you've got to go along with us. all you other countries like, you know, italy and france, germany just go along, even if you don't contribute as much because it's almost like we were buying your allegiance by having you contribute a small amount. the other interesting thing that nato is now doing is that instead of different countries funding their own military soldiers who are a part of nato. now what they want t

to become part of nato. so, can you please tell me who is the villain in this? it is confusing to me. by the way, this has been -- this has been -- the national archives just released this. it is all factual. thanks. guest: thanks for your question. i am certainly familiar with both sides of -- not really the argument -- but on what was or was not intended. i have seen those statements and all i can tell you is that only the people in the room really know what happens there. i think there is an understanding that even if, at the time, there were assurances given that nato would not enlarge eastward, those were somehow limited in time and depended on certain conditions, which russia also breached. i always try to keep in mind the broader principles of the agreement, which is that they have a right to self-determination. if a country like with the when you want to be a member of a certain alliance, they should have freedom of association to apply to and join the alliance. if it were nato or cst a, that is ther

nato is following suit. nato is basically leaving afghanistan in a terrible mess. surely that tells beijing that despite all of your words about globalised commitments and dealing with threats, wherever they may be, you're not serious. you couldn't sustain your mission in afghanistan. first, nato�*s not going to be a global alliance, but nato as a north atlantic alliance, has to deal with global threats and challenges. and that's two very different things. yes, but that's my point. you saw a specific threat in afghanistan, tied to the taliban, tied to the fear of it being a hotbed of international terror. you have been there off the back of the us intervention for the best part of two decades. and now you're leaving because the americans are leaving. but nobody in the world believes that the threat from both the taliban and possibly from international terror groups as well, has gone away. in fact, it may well get very much worse once you've gone. 0n afghanistan, it's correct that we have decided to end our military mission after two decades. and i have been very

we do not view nato as a sort of a protection racket. we believe that nato is vital to our ability to maintain american security for the next. the next remainder of the century. when nato was founded in 1949, it had a clear mission waging what became known as the cold war, and making sure it didn't become a hot one locally. after the fall of the berlin wall, nato troops were deployed to trying to hold the peace in the balkans. and then in 2003, they radically changed that mission and sent troops to afghanistan in nato's founding treaty. the king clause is article 5, which says an attack on any member state is an attack on all the nato countries. it's only been in vote once in 2001 after 911. this year, nato allies would give a no choice, but to follow president biden's decision and pull out of afghanistan. but they know the taliban are emboldened and there's a considerable fear of what comes next. they will be a power vacuum. there will be a tussle for power between the current government, the taliban, of the groups such as isis that of

should ukraine join nato? should nato take on that responsibility and be effectively involved with a conflict with russia directly if you maintain work toing. >> independent sovereign countries should be able to decide md. the first and most important question is sdwhal line? does it want to have a closer affinity in. as of today, the ukranians would like to become part of nato. they have decided that is something that they would like to do. then the question is for nato strictly would enhance the unite nations which is key whether a country should back part of nato. the united states has led the effort to say, no, ukraine in nato is a good thing. there are other countries, germany and france, who say, no, this is not a good chance to be at nato. one of the reasons, russia is likely to react with a great fury. there is also the reality that russian troops today and is joining separate forces in eastern ukraine. it's a complicated issue. the key, however, is nato and the united states can never say russia has a

that is the success of nato. we prevent anything similar happening to a nato country as we seen happening to other countries in the neighbourhood of russia. surely that is the minimum threshold of what you at nato hope to achieve over the last seven years? for example, even before you took over as secretary general, nato had committed, long—term, to seeing ukraine become a member of your organisation. over the seven years you have been in charge, nothing has been done to progress ukrainian membership, and when president zelensky of ukraine on the eve of this latest summit, he tweeted and he was hoping to put pressure on you, saying that in effect, we have now got the green light for membership action plan and that was quickly dismissed by all of the nato members, and yourself! ukraine does not have a membership action plan and there is no sign that you want ukraine to be a member of nato. first of all, it is not a small thing to prevent any allies from being attacked by russia or any other potential adverse are

nato summit. the brookings institution is the host of this event. >> good morning, ladies and gentlemen. good afternoon. good evening. to our friends joining us around the world. for those of you have not had yet the owner to me, i am the president of the brookings institution. it is a great pleasure that i welcome you to this important event featuring our honored guests the nato secretary-general. before i begin i would like to first thank our partners in organizing this event and the german council on foreign relations and nato and without them and their excellent staff supporting today's event our conversation it simply would not have been made possible. today's address with secretary-general and the conversation later with the brookings chair comes at a critical time. amidst the lingering challenges of covid-19 is a pandemic the -- as a pandemic, the u.s. has welcomed the new presidential administration which under president joe biden has in turn ushered in a new era of u.s. foreign policy and

-led nato alliance. it isn't surprising -- indeed, was predicted by many people left and right and center back in the 1990's when nato expansion was first put on the table and first endorsed the senate in 1998 held a vote to admit the first three new members of nato. it was predicted at that time, people, my piece in yesterday's "new york times" cites i minnesota senator paul wellstone that the expansion of nato would be seen by russia, could not receive otherwise by russia except as a threat to itself, even as for some period of time it would not have the capacity to respond given its economic prevails in the wake of the collapse of the soviet union. and now that an expansionist been taken, too far. so we have created a kind of self fulfilling prophecy. in this is not to defend many of the actions that russia has taken, including the annexation of crimes in support -- crimea, but wise diplomats and political leaders will understand how other countries view their vital interest listen to those countries

that's how nato wants to keep it. but nato allies are very worried. the united states foremost among them. ok, so what else is on the agenda there? today that nathan cemetery well, even though china has risen to the top of the agenda, which i might add is quite interesting because it was only 2019. the 1st time nato addressed china at all. but everything else still remains on the agenda. as i mentioned, russia very much your concern relations with russia going very badly, especially between the us and russia, which hopefully will be addressed later this week when president biden and meet bilaterally in geneva. the trump administration's insistence on european allies spending more on their own military trying to get to this 2 percent pled that's not going away either. and president biden is going to be quite stringent about this, perhaps putting it in more delicate ways. but the united states is really tired of european allies, not putting enough money and resources into their own armed forces. one other issue that is, it is quite interesting, rising u

support for nato and commitment to nato. there is going to be some talk about that, and talk about china, as i mentioned. that is an emergency -- emerging security challenge, not only for nato, but for president biden's foreign and domestic policy. it is a priority for the white house to be discussing issues related to china. host: are there cracks in the alliance when it comes to afghanistan? guest: i think afghanistan is obviously going to be a big topic. it is going to be about figuring out how the drawdown works and how they ensure that there is a plan for making sure the security of afghanistan stays and they can maintain security even as the u.s. and other nato partners withdraw forces. we could see some cracks, some disagreement over the next couple of days, but we will have to see how they handle discussions about afghanistan and the withdraw there. host: how is the white house couching this upcoming meeting with president putin? guest: they are handling it with low expectations. the meeting is a big challenge for bi

support for nato and commitment to nato. i think there is going to be some talk about that and there will be talk about china as i mentioned. certainly an emerging security challenge. not only for nato, but also a big focus of president biden's foreign and domestic policy. i think it's a big priority for the white house to be discussing issues related to china. host: are there cracks in the alliance when it comes to afghanistan? guest: i think afghanistan is going to be a big topic. it's really going to be about figuring out how this drawdown works and how they ensure that there is a plan for making sure the security of afghanistan stays. they can maintain security even as the u.s. and other nato partners withdraw forces. i think we could see some cracks, some disagreement offer the next couple days. we'll have to see how they handle discussion abouts afghanistan and the withdrawal there. host: how is the white house couching this upcoming meeting with president putin? guest: the white house is really handling it with low ex

nato nato stands together. that's how we met every other threat in the past. it's our greatest strength as we meet our challenges of the future, and there are many. and everyone, everyone in that room today understood the shared appreciation, quite frankly, that america is back. we talked about our collective security. we talked about russia's aggressive acts that pose a threat to nato. that's why i met with the bucharest 9, the eastern flank allies in advance of the summit and today i also met with the leaders of the three baltic states, estonia, latvia, lithuania. what i'll convey to president putin that i'm not looking for conflict with russia but that we will respond if russia continues its harmful activities. and we will not fail to defend the transatlantic alliance or stand up for democratic values. as allies, we also affirmed our continued support for the sovereignty and territorial integrity of ukraine. we agreed to keep consulting closely on nuclear deterrence, arms control, and strategic stability. and there was a strong consensus in the room among t

ok. install . simberg is the secretary general of nato, addressing the media in brussels at the nato summit, where he talks about strengthening the group is the organizing framework. the collective defense of the euro, atlantic area, against all threats from all directions. natasha butler reporting for us from the nato summit. all pretty predictable, sort of stuff. i would say that came out of what you installed in big saying that. but as we were discussing before, there is almost a, a fixation, somewhat on, on, on china, and to a degree rusher as well. at the moment. yes, i was a lot that in terms of the mood, i thought it was interesting. the in stoughton, but the head of nato began his press conference by saying he quoted, for his johnson the u. k. prime minister saying that it feels a bit like the 1st day of school when me talk with old friends and see old faces. and i think what he's referring to is the fact that joe biden, the u. s. president, is here in brussel 1st nato summit. and the jury thought it made it very clear that the washington is re committing to nato off to those

joe biden likes nato, and nato seems to like him. i want to make it clear, nato is critically important for us interests, in and of itself. if there weren't one, we'd have to invent one, and i just want all of europe to know that the united states is there, the united states is there. donald trump, on the other hand, questioned the whole idea of collective security, thought america was paying far too much, and wanted to pull the us out of nato. those arguments are in the rear—view mirror, as the trans—atlantic defence organisation puts its focus on a resurgent china, and its increasingly militaristic stance. we all recognise that china's heavy investment in military capabilities and continued aggressive behaviour, and growing influence matters for our security, and we need to respond to that together as an alliance. joe biden sees this trip as a battle of ideas — the competition of values between democracy, and autocracy and authoritarianism. while all nato members are happy to sign up to compete against china, they're very wor

i asked kurt volker, former us ambassador to nato, what president biden needs to do for nato. this will be a way of showing american support and broader support for nato, and a desire for the united states to lead nato into the future. so this is important. and i think it is the main message. in addition to that, there will be an effort to have nato look forward. what is the vision for 2030? there was a study group done by a group of senior national experts some time ago, that will now be formalised by nato as they look ahead, creating a vision for nato, 2030. part of that will be dealing with china, 5g, and new types of threats and challenges, something nato has not done before. and another part of that will be dealing with russia, of course, which is a constant thorn in the side, as you would know only too well as the former special representative to ukraine as well. what should nato and particularly president biden, who will be confronting vladimir putin in a few days, what should they be laying out here? well, i think that it is very important that president biden reassure

to become part of nato. so, can you please tell me who is the villain in this? it is confusing to me. by the way, this has been -- this has been -- the national archives just released this. it is all factual. thanks. guest: thanks for your question. i am certainly familiar with both sides of -- not really the argument -- but on what was or was not intended. i have seen those statements and all i can tell you is that only the people in the room really know what happens there. i think there is an understanding that even if, at the time, there were assurances given that nato would not enlarge eastward, those were somehow limited in time and depended on certain conditions, which russia also breached. i always try to keep in mind the broader principles of the agreement, which is that they have a right to self-determination. if a country like with the when you want to be a member of a certain alliance, they should have freedom of association to apply to and join the alliance. if it were nato or cst a, that is ther

nato. it is simply all of these different activities that secretary general stalsen burge listed that has allies, very concerned china spends on its military far more than european allies. it has the 2nd largest military in the world after the united states. and it already has the largest navy. so this is not something that a military alliance can ignore, as told and berg mentioned to they are not happy with china's anti democratic behavior. and the message in the final communicate will be to china. that if you are going to be a major after on the international stage, you need to act responsibly in line with international norms. ok, said with attorney, because of course china isn't nature's only challenge and we'll hear from german chancellor angler medical on the alliance. his other big problem and who named dorothy come to you who pleaded hybrid challenges are becoming increasingly significant, such as cyber attack, especially when it comes to russia. of course, this information campaigns

getting nato -- getting turkey into the nato club was one of the main objectives when nato was established to set up this wall of defense against the soviet union. president bide season trying to shift the mission of nato to stand up against china. keeping in turkey and reigning in turkey at the same time has been a challenge. one of the biggest problems is that turkey is trying to play both sides. turkey is a nato member. it hosts a nato base that has u.s. troops. then in order to balance that relationship, put pressure on the united states, put pressure on nato, erdogan also bought a russian missile defense system. many u.s. military officials i have spoken are profoundly uncomfortable about that. there are u.s. jets, nato jets in turkey taking off from that base. then there's a russian missile defense system that turkey has acquired that was designed specifically to shoot down nato aircraft. nato officials, u.s. officials want turkey to give up that missile system. they say it limits their ability to operate from the base if there are weapon systems designed to shoot down the jets that

a member of nato. is that true? do we know what nato has said, or is zelensky trying to put pressure on the u.s. president? alexandra: he has been trying to put pressure on the new biden administration for weeks now. he was hoping to be invited to meet joe biden, and he was also hoping to have a conversation with him ahead of his meeting with the russian president. we haven't heard anything at this time that nato has declared that ukraine is going to be a new nato member, however, we also have to say that of course, that is something ukraine is aiming at and nato has said that in the future, if there are reforms, if ukraine is progressing, that could be may be possible. anchor: for the u.s. president, coming to brussels and nato, his first chance to reassure european allies that the u.s. is back, as he said, and committed to nato. is this about telling allies what they want to hear, or telling them the truth? alexandra: that is definitely what allies wanted to hear. joe biden made it very clear during

it be a judgment by nato, and nato members as to whether or not they are prepared to take ukraine in, with the risks that that poses for nato itself, as well as the signaling that that would bring to the wider europe. ashley: one thing that president trump did, of course was kind of hold nato to account. it happened before his presidency but he really really held nato's feet to the fire when it came to contributing their fair share. is joe biden going to do that at the same intensity and, you know , we have seen nato respond. some countries have increased their funding to the pact. >> that is indeed right, and so we shouldn't obscure the fact that in fact nato countries are spending more on their own defense and on the common defense. i think the biden approach will be different. it has been different today. its been more talking about the weaknesses that nato has and the priorities that it has in order to inspire the allies to step forward and do more. one of the issues, historical, over decades has been for the united states has been how much do we want to encourage or discourage eu

that being in nato is nato and ukrainians defending against russia? president biden: the second question is no. the first is whether they meet the criteria. the fact is they still have to clean up corruption. the fact is they have to meet other criteria to get into the action plan. and so it's -- you know, school's out on that question. it remains to be seen. in the meantime, we will do all that we can to put ukraine in a position to be able to continue to resist russian physical aggression and it will not just depend on me whether or not we conclude that ukraine can become part of nato. it will depend on the alliance and how they vote. but i know for one thing, there has to be a -- they have to convince -- and it's not easy. i made a speech years ago to the rata saying that ukraine had an opportunity to do something that's never occurred in the history of ukraine. actually generate a democratically elected and not corrupt, led by oligarchies, in any of the region nation. and i pointed out to them when i made that speech that they will go down in hist

it's always why biden's visit to nato matters. they kept peace in the cold war by containing the soviet union. trump's talk of ending nato pleased no one more than putin. now, it's no coincidence that the recent pew survey shows america's reputation has already rebounded around the world, and yes, biden is more trusted to do the right thing than putin or xi. it doesn't mean all is well. 57% of folks in the same survey said democracy in the u.s. used to be a good example, but it has not been in recent years. our unhinged domestic divisions exemplified by the big lie have hurt perceptions of american democracy. that's a disgrace and should be a wake-up call to anyone who likes to call themselves a patriot. the disinformation efforts will not stop, but that's why it's important to acknowledge when our government gets things right. whether it's vaccination rates or the vaccination donations that remind the world that there is no moral equivalence between democracy and autocracy. and that's your reality check. >> john avlon, thank you

you would expect to hear more from nato. ros: boris johnson has confirmed coronavirus research and since -- restrictions will stay in place until july 19, four weeks later than the planned easing. prime minister johnson: we have obviously faced a difficult choice. we can simply keep going, stepping forward on june 24, even though there is a real possibility that the virus will outrun the vaccines, and that thousands of more deaths would ensue that could have otherwise been avoided. or else, we can give the nhs a few more crucial weeks to get those remaining jabs into the arms of those who need them. ros: the reason for the shift is the delta variant. here are the numbers. . th shows the number of cases sinc. may. the average is up 49% compared to the seven days before, and 90% of new infections are because of the delta variant. it is estimated that at the current rate of increase, there will be more than 15,000 new cases a day by the 21st of june. meanwhile, u.k. researchers have found the most commonly reported symptoms are

but for most nato allies, russia remains the main threat relation between moscow and nato, are at the lowest points since the cold war on wednesday bite in the shed, you will to meet russian leader vladimir person. so highly anticipated talks in geneva, i shared at our allies that convey to press what i'll convey to president bowden. but i'm not looking for conflict with russia, but then we will respond of russia continues as foreign pl activities. ties with turkey, also tense, the bite and call the meeting with the turkish president productive. the us may be back as a reliable nato partner, but this analysts says some allies have concerns. the allies and asia will remember that trump had happened that something like him could happen again in the future. there are divisions in nato on some issues, but those differences remained mainly behind closed doors. as boyden took center stage, leaders were clearly determined to turn a diplomatic page and show united front disaster butler just 0 brussels. why in the last, our beaching has responded to nato's accusations from on this. let's cross

ah, nato. nato stands together, job inhales nato's unity and reiterates his country's unshakable commitment to the military alliance. ah, i'm about as in this is all just even live from bill, also coming up, remembering the victims of covert 19 in the u. s. members of congress observe a moment of silence as we just told approaches 600000 on home the u. k. prime minister delays plans to ease covered 1900 restrictions in england. as a number of cases, there arises and warnings of a possible radiation making, one of china's nuclear power plants, but ranging dismisses the concerns. ah you as president has promised rock solid commitment to nato following his predecessors criticism of the military alliance. joe biden has won than an attack on one member is an attack on all speaking after the nato summit biden reaffirm the groups unity ahead of his meeting with russia's leader on wednesday. russia and china are both seeking to drive a wedge in our transatlantic solidarity. we're seeing an increase in malicious cyber activity, but our alliance is still strong foundation. nato stands together. that'

has it been a good nato summit for joe bought? and i was saying to a correspondent earlier how he wanted the china front and center, and that has been the biggest thing to come out of the the communicate yes, i agree. i think he got more than even may have expected from this nato summit because there are some differences, at least a difference of emphasis among allies on whether china is really a threat or whether it's a more manageable challenge compared to russia. but he did get some strong language on china, on the systemic challenge that it poses to the rules based international order. and he didn't get to agreement to pursue an agenda that's very forward looking, which in its different components will also deal with. with those challenges from china, whether it's new technologies, nuclear build up of cyber attacks. the agenda for nato 2030 years was adopted at this summit is directed against everybody, but it has a lot of relevance for the china challenge. is there the possibility though, the risk even of getting too focused

joe biden likes nato, and nato seems to like him. let me make it clear. nato is critically important to us interests, in and of itsself. if there wasn't one, we'd have to invent one, and i just want all of europe to know that the united states is there, the united states is there. donald trump, on the other hand, questioned the whole idea of collective security, thought america was paying far too much, and wanted to pull the us out of nato. those arguments are in the rear—view mirror, as the transatlantic defence organisation puts its focus on a resurgent china and its increasingly militaristic stance. we all recognise that china's heavy investment in military capabilities and continued aggressive behaviour and growing influence matters for our security, and we need to respond to that together as an alliance. joe biden says this trip is a battle of ideas — the competition of values between democracy and autocracy and authoritarianism. while all nato members are happy to sign up to compete against china, they're very worried that it could tip into conf

football rebels on al jazeera, the ah . nato. nato stands together. joe biden hale's nato's unity and reiterates his country's unmistakable commitment to the military alliance. ah, madison, this is all your life from also coming up, major push for americans to get vaccinated as a number of corona virus, death years. 600000 cases are done for the president want against complacency on hold you. k prime minister delays plan covered 19 restrictions in england. as the number of cases there rises on the warnings of a possible variation leeker, one of china's nuclear power plants for aging dismissal. the concerns ah, in the us president has promised our rock solid commitment to nato, following his predecessors criticism of the military alliance. joe biden was that an attack on one member is an attack on all speaking off of the nato summit to buy and reaffirm the group's unity and had his meeting with russia's leader on wednesday. russia and china are both seeking to drive a wedge in our transatlantic solidarity. we're seeing an increase in malicious cyber ac

the way he talks about nato. cooperation with nato. the importance of doemocracy an funding this alliance. so different from what we heard from donald trump. so down really wanting them to pay up and you have biden here saying that the u.s. has a sacred commitment to nato. >> he kept saying america was back. biden wants to go in with a strong position. >> he said he talked to them about what he was going to say to pputin. he consulted them. this is a new president trying to turn the battleship around and say we are headed in a very different direction with putin. they have rape in the past. it's not pleasant. it's not pretty. biden said i don't want to tell you what i'm going to tell him, except he told us what he's going to tell him. he said where we can cooperate, we will. if you don't cut this stuff out, we're going to respond. now you remember in helsinki, president trump stood up and said i believe that putin had nothing to do with election meddling. that's clearly not where joe biden sits right now. in terms of navalny, he couldn

he used to not only talk about nato in disparaging terms, former president trump walked out of a nato meeting and called it obsolete, a nato alliance, 73 years old. instead, joe biden came here today and got everything he wanted out of the nato meeting and not like the g7, and we had the summary from the nato secretary-general stultanberg who said first of all, that joe biden declared his strong u.s. support for nato that europe and america have to stand strong against the growing threat of authoritarian regime like russia and china, and its growing insolence in the world and the kind of language that president biden and the secretary of state would have written themselves. so nato firmly arming him against the upcoming meeting with vladimir putin and of course, that sets the next stage. keir simmons is with us after that extraordinary interview. here, we've all been talking about it, we saw all of it today and now playing some more of it on msnbc on the "today" show, and the psychology of this former kgb guy, and everyone should watch your interview and talk to us about all things yo

your first oint is needs to for nato? your first point is an — needs to for nato? your first point is an important - needs to for nato? your first point is an important point, l point is an important point, that this will be a way of showing american support and broader support for nato, and a desire for the united states to lead nato into the future. this is important. and i think it is the main message. in addition to that, there will be an effort to have nato look forward. what is the vision for 2030? there was a study group done by a group of senior national experts some time ago that will now before malaise by nato as they look ahead, creating a vision for nato, 2030. part of that will be dealing with china and 5g and new types of threats and challenges, something nato has not done before. bud challenges, something nato has not done before.— not done before. and another art of not done before. and another part of that — not done before. and another part of that will _ not done before. and another part of that will be _ not done before. and another part of

joe biden likes nato and nato seems to like him. >> i want to make clear. nato is critically important for u.s. interests in of itself. i want all of europe to know that the united states is there. reporter: donald trump the other hand, question the whole idea of collective security, thought america was paying far too much. those arguments are in the rearview mirror, as the transatlantic defense organization puts its focus on a resurgent china and its increasingly militaristic stance. >>e all recognize that china's military capabilities, and growing influence matters, and we have to respond to that together. reporter: joe biden sees this trip as a battle of ideas. a competition of values. while all nato members are happy to sign up to compete against china, they are very worried it could lead to confrontation. than there is russia, their relations are at a low ebb. there seems to be a greater willingness to confront vladimir putin. but also, the state and nonstate actors responsible for election interference in ransomware attack's, like the one that cripple

of the nato treaty. is turkey a nato ally, u.s. ally, what is it? >> it is an ally in the sense it is still a nato member, and part of the alliance. it is of course and has been behaving in ways that raises questions about his commitment to the alliance along the lines you mention. there are other areas we are working together. for example, turkey played an extraordinarily important role in our entire mission in afghanistan. they have taken the security of the kabul airport and the region for many, many years, and we used to fly our nato aircraft, early warning aircraft out of turkish bases over afghanistan. so the meeting here is to see, can we come back to some fundamentals in which we can cooperate. erdogan is coming in this case from a position of weakness. currently in shambles. the pandemic has been devastating for the country and for its people, so he is looking to reset the relationship and biden may provide the opportunity to do so. >> ambassador, thanks so much for giving us perspective. >> my

former us ambassador to nato. mr biden has of course, spent the past three days at the g7 summit in south—west england, which ended with a final communique that included the promise of a billion covid vaccine doses to the poorer nations of the world and more action on climate change. but the commitments have come in for sharp criticism. a coalition of 75 charities has accused the leaders of failing to deliver the progress needed to end the covid—i9 pandemic, or indeed, to tackle what they call the climate emergency. the coalition which includes groups such as oxfam and save the children called it a historic missed opportunity. the british prime minister, borisjohnson, will announce later on monday whether or not covid restrictions in england are to be lifted onjune 2ist. there are reports that a delay of up to four weeks is being considered. the main concern is the increase in cases linked to the delta variant first detected in india and the potential impact on hospitals in the coming weeks. our health corresp