we have not seen a change in the taliban. now, if the taliban try to enforce their ideology and create a monopoly in afghanistan, that is unlikely for any afghans to accept, but if it's a compromise in which we compromise some of our current freedoms to achieve peace, then perhaps it might be worth paying that price. but to say that we will forego all of these freedoms and allow the taliban to return their brutal ways of ruling and enslave afghans inside their own country, that is not an acceptable scenario. 0k. well, you will know of the reports. there are reports in the times, radio free europe, elsewhere of what's happening in northern provinces that have been retaken by the taliban, where they've banned women from going outside without the burqa and without male companions. they've asked families to give their daughters to commanders to marry them. they've shut schools for girls over 12. they've banned music, television, told men not to shave their beards, and there've been public beatings. and i wonder... you've heard th

>> the agreement that the united states has with the taliban is that it is the taliban's job is to prevent other groups from outside afghanistan. if those groups get a foothold in the taliban fails to meet its commitment to not allow those groups to be operating from its territory, you will see a different united states posture. president bynum is not going to tolerate. host: do you see afghanistan becoming a safe haven? >> i highly doubt that the biden administration would commit suicide by reversing their decision. there is going to be escalated violence, there is always room for different groups to operate, it's going to spill over onto neighboring regions. again, the taliban have close familial ties with groups like al qaeda, insurgency has been fluid in its nature, fighters have been fighting and have allegiances to groups. that means the same fighters, and you can see this from prisoners. the idea is it is difficult to distinguish between them, especially during an armed conflict of this escalation. it's going to be difficult to stay true. host: the u.s. involvement was launched with

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if the taliban continue to gain ground international negotiation settings, the taliban have presented themselves as having changed. they say that they are essentially no longer the brutal idealogues that they were in the past. they a promise to respect women's rights. do you believe that? thank you. i do not believe that because at least in the places the took the control of the places in the past few months. the things were here is the very best the ethics or the impacts of thought about control over women in the areas under their control. there's unfortunately very disproportionate for example, they have limited woman's movement, but they, they have not allowed them to go to work. and then the call i had 3 days ago. and then one of those to read the receive to they say that in but a phone proven, we are a, we are, i come from, they burn the houses of my religious minority. she a smiley people, and then they, they say you are the same thing. my neighbor at 13 years old, golden by the sun during this day she was going out and then they beat her badly. so the community went to taliban

but the taliban has all the time. and he was alluding to the fact that some everyone knew at some point the us was going to have to pull out enough chemistry. i was going to stand on a town and that the taliban would of course, challenge that well, that dates come. president binders ask all us forces to be out by the 20th anniversary of $911.00, which is just a couple of months away. so us forces are drawing down there at a time that it seems like pissed off to the taliban have stopped. and the taliban is ascendant across the country and back let me show you a map where this is from la ward journal, just tracks us and they say the talent has. deborah doubled the number of controlled ac in districts since may 1st. now and this map, the lie gray is what is now uncontested and controlled by the government of afghanistan and presumably backed by the us. the dark gray is controlled by the taliban and the red is considered contested. then you can see the taliban that circled. cobble there in the center, they've circle the k

translation: that taliban don't want peace, the taliban want _ the whole government. the tally banner on the killing. the taliban are only killing. and there is another concern. 0sama bin laden may be dead, but its organisation, al-qaeda, lives on. many fear a return of the taliban means a return of al-qaeda. a nightmare scenario not just for afghanistan, but for much of the world. frank gardner, bbc news. 0ur chief international correspondent lyse doucet is in the afghan capital kabul. all of the focus now is on battlefields across this country, but far away in the gulf state of qatar, negotiations have resumed between an afghan government and taliban delegation. we are joined from from one of the government team negotiators. welcome to bbc world news. thank you. how would you assess the seriousness of the talks which have taken place in recent days? is it just that taliban going through the motions, or is this a serious effort at trying to find peace? well, i guess the seriousness of the attacks are determined by what is going on on the ground. 0n the ground, things

i star during the taliban. of course, it was a different time at the time, i don't have united states or any other nato countries support. i was living in a very merchant ally and neglected society and country in the earth with the name of scottish them right now, which way different, and that different it business means it means generation change in that change of generation bring lots of thanks to afghanistan and the new generation get been engaged to the work, so that's why it's not acceptable for us to have the fact go back to the dorky job . i've got this done. so it said, that's why i'm saying i've got his son shouldn't go back to the hands of terrorist network. there's no guarantee also do her agreement talk about said they will cut their til with their let's say i'll tell you down or an ice ice or dice group. so where is still they have formed fighters with fighting with them? so they have those they terror support and malicious and militant with them. it's not easy for everyone to accept that. ok, just

i’m taliban taking kabul, i presume? i'm not taliban taking kabul, i presume? i“n not concerned about that, it has been a propaganda war by the taliban and their backers. they are basically claimed to have a certain percentage of the country but these are the least populated and most remote areas and when you actually see the population amount, it's around less than 20% of the population live in the areas the taliban claim to have. we population live in the areas the taliban claim to have. we knew the us withdrawal _ taliban claim to have. we knew the us withdrawal of _ taliban claim to have. we knew the us withdrawal of troops _ taliban claim to have. we knew the us withdrawal of troops is - taliban claim to have. we knew the us withdrawal of troops is not - taliban claim to have. we knew the | us withdrawal of troops is not 100% complete, that comes in august. you represent kuchis as i introduced for our viewers, the taliban are renowned for mistreating minorities. how are you feeling about what's going on in the moments? it’s going on in the moments? it'

do you trust the taliban? pres. biden: no, i do not trust the taliban. >> mr. president will you , amplify your answer please? pres. biden: it is a silly question. do i trust the taliban? no. but i trust the capacity of the afghan military who is better trained, better equipped, and more competent in terms of conducting war. >> thank you, mr. president. given the amount of money that has been spent and the number of lives that have been lost, in your view, were the last 20 years worth it? pres. biden: you know my record. i can tell by the way you asked the question. i opposed permanently having american forces in afghanistan. i argued from the beginning, as you may recall, it came to light after the administration was over, our administration. no nation has ever unified afghanistan. no nation. empires have gone there and not done it. the focus we had, and i strongly support it and i physically went to afghanistan. i was up in that pass where osama bin laden was allegedly escaped out of harm's way. we went for two reasons. one, to bring osama bin laden to the ga

as the taliban offensive gains momentum. they claim to have seized more than $100.00 out of nearly $400.00 districts in the country with a strong presence in the north. 100. thanks to god and this is prison before the majority of the afghan people in the previous era, june taliban rule, for more than 10 years. we are now in control board and 70 percent of the territories. it is simply because that people know us very well and the afghan people have no problem dealing with us. many afghans are frightened, their consent, the security situation in the country will only worsen once the us forces eventually leave. while not only me, but all africans are very to the polar bond, will take kind of fun as us troops leave the country. no one and honestly is completely satisfied with the palate bond monotonic. from the day the issue of the withdrawal, a foreign troops arose and it has had a negative impact on the deliver of people. the fall of times why district comes just days off the us and nato forces vacated their main by graham at

do you trust the taliban? i do not. no, i do not trust the taliban. >> ny -- [inaudible] >> we ask -- [inaudible] >> do i trust the taliban? no but i trust the capacity of the afghan military who's better trained, better equipped and more competent in terms of conducting war. [inaudible] >> given the amount of money that's been spent in the number of lives lost, in your view, what making this decision for the last 20 years worth it? >> no my record, i can tell by the way you asked the question. i opposed permanently having american forces in afghanistan. i argued from the beginning, as you may recall, it became after the administration was over in our administration. no nation has ever unified afghanistan, no nation. empires have gone and not done it. the focus we had, and i strongly supported, you may remember we went to afghanistan, i was where osama bin laden was allegedly escaped or out of harm's way. we went for two reasons. one, to remove osama bin laden to the gates of hell as i said at the time. the second reaso

the taliban is ascendant across the country and back. let me show you a map where this is from lord journal. just track us and they say the tell me as deborah doubled, the number of controlled african districts since may 1st. now on this map, the lie, gray is what has now uncontested and controlled by the government of afghanistan. and presumably back by the u. s. the dark gray is controlled by the taliban and the red is considered contested. then you can the taliban that as circled. cobble there in the center. they've circle the kandahar down south. they're doing their spreading throughout the rule areas. and so i thought 3 guest on today's show to talk about this and what it means for afghanistan and the people of afghanistan. i'm going to ask him to introduce himself. so i'm going to begin with shooter. i josh, thank you them. sure, jamal i'm the head of international relations and regional cooperation at the office of the national security council here in couple. thank you. on the show. thank you for being. i know it's about midnight

they gave the taliban international legitimacy. by the time joe biden decided the forces should leave, the taliban were really up, their confidence was up. they were thinking they were going to have a victory. the government force's morale was down in their boots. the whole of the american strategy absolutely depended on the taliban's honest intentions that they wanted to negotiate. and, as soon as joe biden said the forces were leaving unconditionally, this gobbling up of territory started. remember, this is during a pandemic. afghans are suffering from a drought. this is a cruel time to launch this kind of onslaught, at a time when afghans repeatedly say they want peace, the taliban have chosen really to inflict miseries of war on the population. >> in our report we heard from a young girl talking about women being put in cages. talking about restrictions being put on women under the taliban. isn't this possibly the worst thing that is set to happen, that women and girls will lose some of the relative liberties ey have gained in

the taliban and taking up arms. amy: as the u.s. military says its withdrawal from afghanistan is 90% complete, the taliban is escalating its offensive by seizing more districts. we will speak to a longtime afghan women's rights defender and a journalist in kabul. plus, we will look at why the palestinian authority is cracking down on palestinian demonstrators in the occupied west bank. all that and more, coming up. welcome to democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. haiti's interim prime minister has declared a state of siege and imposed martial law following wednesday morning's assassination of president jovenel moÏse. the first lady of haiti was injured in the attack and was airlifted to a hospital in miami, where she is reportedly in critical but stable condition. haitian police say they've arrested two suspected assassins and kill four others in a gunfight. video from the scene shows the heavily armed attackerclaimed to be from the u.s. dea, the drug enforcement administrati

as we speak in there, there to start talks with the taliban reports come out that the taliban are not willing to sit on the negotiation table at the present moment. what about the gains that have been made by african women in the last decades i have, we're going to say a rollback of that. is that an area of concern? and if there are already reports emerging of districts in certain provinces like the har, very recently we have reports that just districts that have been taken over by the taliban. they have already imposed restrictions on women on media. for instance, women are in the ha, reportedly not allowed to leave the house without a male chaperone clinics have been closed. there's also reports of media blackout in certain districts of the telecom have taken over. so there is no coverage of the atrocities that are taking place in those areas. and men are told to now keep a beard. and certain of these are reflective of what we saw in the ninety's when the taliban were in power. and. and so we're seeing that happen, there are reports that are emerging of, of that scenario. and that i

what was agreed and argument put taliban. there were 4 elements for points that must of been implemented. otherwise, there is no agreement. it was said by mr. hutton, that nothing gets promise till everything gets promised. now we see that i've got to stand is facing and security, high violence collapse of districts and close to the clubs of provincial centers and nobody is taken care of what is going on on the ground. so it, it really depends on international community led by us to intervene in this situation and create a momentum on the piece process. the piece process without end top gun piece process. there won't be any winner for the water. the water will not have a winner. the winner will only be those terrorist groups that they have brought in international community led by us and nato 12 going to start in 20 years ago. it will happen again. the going to be again, my attorney as groups joining together and i've got to stand, they will be terrorizing, not only i've gotten it done, but it will rise that region and missio

it's one of a number of front lines between taliban fighters and afghan forces. the army has been forced onto the back foot with more than a 1000 soldiers recently fleeing across the border to fully nice nations weapons inspector scott ritter told us that the us mission in the country was far from a success. if, if all our all we want to do is kill been lot, and in the and i laid out, we could have done all of that much sooner without undertaking that, which we did undertake. why didn't can say otherwise. but the reality is we were involved in nation building, we did build a nation in afghanistan, a failed nation. and now we're abandoning it. you know, i will be the last person to argue in favor of a continued american military presence. but we need to be honest with the people, with their neighbors, the regional neighbors and the world. what we did for the last 20 years was bail we last. and now we should be looking to the international community, especially afghanistan's regional neighbors offer assistance in helping come up with a solution by pretending that w

after 20 years, theyjust went into an agreement with the taliban and said to the taliban that it's ok, you can do whatever you do. it's a failure. 20 years ago, foreign forces arrived here with a fierce push. the moment in 2001 when the hardline islamist taliban regime was driven out of kabul. america's response to the 9/11 attacks, with the uk and other nato allies. the united states military has now begun strikes against al-qaeda terrorist training camps and military installations of the taliban regime in afghanistan. years of fighting followed in provinces across the country. this is helmand in the south, where some of the fiercest battles were fought. hundreds of british and foreign troops died here. thousands of afghan soldiers. the taliban were kept at bay. but not defeated. finally, the us signed a deal with the militant group last year. agreeing to fully withdraw foreign forces. they are leaving amidst rising violence. this is one of the roads that leads out of kabul. in the province just beyond, the taliban are battling afghan government forces. that's how close the fighting

there are reports of increasing taliban advances. government in nigeria have targeted a hospital in a school in les than 24 hours. we understand nurses and children have been abducted. this is in the northern part of one state. you can see the bullet holes there. it has been reported that at least eight people were abducted from herncluding three scolchildren. the government has yet to this is one of the eyewitnesses. >> there were gunshots and they entered some of the houses in the quarters. there were two children and a daughter. anchor: a school was rated by gunmen, 150 children are missi from the baptist high school. it's the 10th school kidnapping in nigeria since december. this is one of the parents. >> i'm told by friday that will be located. this morning at about 6:00, they entered the school, kidnappers. none of our children are back. anchor: we've been talking about who may be behind the attacks. >> the region where its happening, where kidnapping for ransom is common. criminal gangs have been targeting schools, as you said

who will account for the surge of the taliban in afghanistan? a growing number of warlords and militia groups are taking up arms against the insurgents. also coming up, mandatory testing could be a requirement for travelers coming to germany. the government is looking into making covid-19 testing compulsory for anyone entering the country by land, air or sea. they are blamed for causing taxpayers millions of euros. simone biles withdraws from the individual all-around finals at elevates, putting the spotlight on mental health. i am brent goff. to our viewers watching in pbs and all of the viewers watching around the world, welcome. we begin in afghanistan with the worsening security crisis. in many cases, government security forces seemed incapable of stopping the insurgen --insurgents. they are mobilizing to counter taliban takeover. >> dozens of fighters guard this house, it is the house of autumn the most powerful warlords in afghanistan. for decades he has fought the taliban. now he leads the armed resistance in this province. the government

of the population is not conducive to taliban- success. it will try very hard to hold onto the capitol city i think the local politics in up in the north will favor the allies and not favor the taliban. some ofli the cities, i think a stalemate of some kind probably with some back and forth motion is more likely than an outright taliban takeover parade will have to see what happens in the next few months. >> version with the u.s. withdrawal from afghanistan. let me give the viewers a phone line to call anything to join this conversation with michael hanlon of the brookings institution this morning. if you support the withdrawal (202)748-8000. ifhd you oppose it withdrawal (202)748-8001. i do want to hear the storieshe and the thoughts afghan war veterans (202)748-8002 is a special line he set aside for afghan war veterans would you go ahead and start calling and as we show this picture from the wall street journal this morning. army general scott miller on the left the top u.s. commander ending over the reins of the afghan operation to mar

do i trust the taliban? no. but i trust the capacity of the afghan military, who is better trained, better equipped and more competent in terms of conducting war. yes, ma'am. >> reporter: thank you, mr. president. given the amount of money that has been spent and the number of lives that have been lost, in your view with making this decision, were the last 20 years worth it? >> you know my record. i can tell by the way you asked the question. i opposed permanently having american forces in afghanistan. i argued from the beginning, as you may recall, it came to light after the administration was over, the last of our administration. no nation has ever unified afghanistan. no nation. empires have gone there and not done it. the focus we had, and i strongly support it and you may remember i physically went to afghanistan. i was up in that pass where osama bin laden was allegedly escaped or out of harm's way. we went for two reasons. one, to bring osama bin laden to the gates of hell, as i said at the time. the seco

this district in northern province fell to the taliban last week, since may 1, the taliban has more than doubled the number of districts it controls. >> we militia forces often -- most districts have fallen. now we have created lines from the taliban reaching the city. reporter: the offensive has regional allies concerned. turkey and russia have closed. iran has restricted activities, although they did host a meeting between taliban meters -- leaders and some politicians. back east, fighters pushed out. day after day, the pressure builds. anchor: kidnappers who have adopted more than 120 schoolchildren have demanded food for hostages. this as security forces step up efforts. they were taken by attackers on monday. local officials say they have spoken to students who confirmed they were ok. it is the latest in a string of massive doctrines for ransom. still to come. new york holds a tickertape parade. >> looking at the international forecast. light wind, cool enough for temperatures -- we have winter weather coming in sliding across the 4s rolling over to south australia. notice some show

that said, _ taliban? it's a very discouraging situation. that said, there's - taliban? it's a very discouragingj situation. that said, there's still a lot we can do. it may not be enough but there's a lot to try, starting with funding the afghan security forces. your clip at the beginning talk about how some troops had not had ammunition, etc, or not been paid. that is true in some cases, but the afghan security forces do have ample resources flowing to them now. there's a lot of corruption and mismanagement of those resources which is part of the problem, but i still favour continuing that flow. we know the communist government held on in 1989 after the soviets withdrew for about three years, as long as the aide continued. that's one big piece. the second equally big piece is western contractors who keep that afghan air force flying, which allows the special forces to move on the battlefield, if there are taliban concentrations or attacks, it allows afghan airpower which is been gradually building up over the years to use fires in the skies against concentrations. thos

do i trust the taliban? no. i trust the afghan people who are better train and more competent in conducting war. >> thank you, mr. president. given the amount of money that has been spent and the number of lives that have been lost, in your view with making this decision, were the last 20 years worth it? >> you know my record, and i can tell by the way you asked the question. i opposed permanently having american forces in afghanistan. i argued from the beginning as you may recall that came to light after the administration was over, the last of our administration, no nation is ever unified afghanistan, no nation. empires have gone there, and not done it. the focus we had and i strongly supported and you may remember that i physically went to afghanistan. i was up in that pass where osama bin laden was allegedly escaped or out of harm's way. we went for two reasons. one, to bring osama bin laden to the gates of hell. as i said at the time. the second reason was to eliminate al qaeda's capacity to deal with more

the taliban is making more inroads than we expected. the vitamin ministration said it would be difficult to get support in the wider international community. if the taliban were to take power at the point of a gun. so important to remember, the last columbine gun was only recognized by 3 governments in the world. and they sustain themselves for quite a significant of time until the u. s. decided to go in after 91120 years ago. a return is not something that the bite administration is planning for. alan fisher. thank you very much indeed. ah, never in his pleading for international help with the catholic, a prime minister, warning the country is just days away from social explosion. how sandy says global help is urgently needed to prevent outright economic ruin. evidence currency has fallen through the floor. it's not last about 90 percent of what it was worth in late 2019 blackouts. a common because of a dilapidated power grid. some areas only getting 2 hours of electricity a day while drastic fuel shortages mean even private generators

it fell to the taliban without a fight. the afghan government is not saying that it sees every district lost as a defeat. they are saying we pulled out intentionally from districts that were smaller and not strategically significant. he has also said they have moved troops to protect the larger and more important towns. one other journalist has tweeted about the role of rumors. one local official said they had banned districts because they thought handing over rule of the taliban was part of the plan, which it definitely is not. there are also reports that some afghan government forces affected to the taliban. here is the afghan national security advisor saying that is not the case. >> they may have abandoned their post because they ran out of ammunition or supplies, but by no means has anyone defected to the taliban. they may have abandoned their posts because they were no longer able to fight. ros: the washington post reported an assessment by u.s. intelligence at the afghan government could fall within six months of the

and peter galbraith is not just a taliban, is it? there are also other on the, like i saw who are, who are threatening the security of gun nissan. how does the binding ministration when it says it's not going to abandon a gun is on how exactly does the us administration planning to fulfill this pledge of preventing al qaeda i saw and these other on go from making of ghana found their safe haven? well, the, the, the agreement that the united states has with the taliban is, but it's the tell bonds job to prevent iceland al qaeda. and these other groups that have the have their targets not only inside afghanistan, but outside up canister. and, and so if those groups actually get a foothold there and the taliban fails to keep its commitment to, to not allow those groups to be operating from its territory. then i think you're going to see a different united states posture of part, you know, quite possibly some re introduction of courses and counterterrorism. certainly intervention from the air. the president biden is not going to tolerate

the idea that the taliban are winning. and they believe that that is causing fear among the populations, cues for passports and baez's. people moving around the country is also affecting the morale of the afghan security forces. well, it's not the media saying at this time it is the most senior member of the u. s. military saying, yes, it's not a foregone conclusion. that the taliban are going to take control of the country, but it's certainly one of the possibilities that still the possibility of a negotiated settlement between the african government and the taliban. but rather bad scenarios, a return to warlords across the country's breakdown in parts of the country's country. so very worrying picture presented from the highest levels and the pentagon. will james, if the end came in, i've gone a son is or appears to be very unclear from military standpoint. what should we be looking out for in the days and weeks ahead? what he heard in talk about the mental of the taliban. that's clear in the games they've made the terri

the taliban. it was right from the start. at one level, i would have to say i wasn't terribly surprised. but i'm not sure i expected anything better from the trump administration. but i did expect better from the biden administration. and boy, has that been a disappointment? he has outtrumped trump. he has made the decision to pull all the way out. so, it was quite a shock to hear him actually make that decision. now he owns this policy. i think he'll live to regret it. i think this will be a permanent stain. daniel: we have five minutes left. i want to give folks a minute to think about the immediate next steps we need to be taking over the next three to, either two weeks to the next three months. jill, i'll start with you. the next two weeks to the next three months. jill: i would like to see the evacuation flights now and get people to guam. the leadership there has said that they are ready, willing, and able to welcome our allies who have served. they've done it before. and frankly, they have

the way the taliban takes round, there. the way the taliban takes ground. does — there. the way the taliban takes ground, does this _ there. the way the taliban takes ground, does this come - there. the way the taliban takes ground, does this come down i there. the way the taliban takes ground, does this come down to| there. the way the taliban takes - ground, does this come down to that her knowledge of the tele terry, to the weapons —- her knowledge of the tele terry, to the weapons —— of the territory? i think it's all of the above. they have a lot of support, they have their own financial structure so they're able to support themselves financially as well as militarily. yeah, they know the region, they've been training for this and they have a lot of popular support from the young men, especially throughout the areas. that includes a lot of the refugees who still remain in pakistan and are coming back and supporting the fight.— supporting the fight. professor, thank ou supporting the fight. professor, thank you so — supporting the fight. professor, thank yo

next districts -- ex-districts fell to the taliban today and they were regained from the taliban tomorrow. the issue is there are areas where the government will have some presence but not full presence. it is hard tquantify these things. there is no one going out and doing these studies. there is no one going around. brent: it is possible to go to your service positions, areas where camps were and see if they were under control of afghan forces, is that being done? >> it is being done and there have been instances where the taliban have taken or at least entered these bases of these camps and they have takethe media to show they have been there. when bagram was handed over, even though there was no official hand over, the u.s. just left in the middle of the night. the talib said it was not necessarily their priority to go and retake that area. they are concentrating on other areas and other tactics at the moment. they were happy the u.s. had left that base because the base had such a negative memory for years. including the president who is known for abuse and torture and accusations and

like for example, for interpreters, but again the taliban will be the taliban, so everything they say has to be taken with a pinch of sword. they had previously given reassurances that they would not target or persecute interpreters for the americans that did not reassure those people in afghanistan at all. they still feel abandoned by the big brother by washington. so there's only one way to see if they put their words. they put their money, excuse me, where there was, ah, and that is just to wait. indeed, it is. for thanks very much for taking us through all the us. art sees igor, shit, them all the need to know from the business world expense form takes us beyond the headlines and moment season. the british and american governments have often been accused of destroying lives in their own interest. while you see in this, these techniques is the state devising message to end essentially destroy the personality of an individual lifetime. means this is how one doctors, theories were allegedly used in psychological warfare against prisoners deemed the danger to the state. that was the f

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taliban. sorry to interrupt you there, taliban. sorry to interrupt you there. but _ taliban. sorry to interrupt you there, but you _ taliban. sorry to interrupt you there, but you probably - taliban. sorry to interrupt you there, but you probably know| there, but you probably know joe biden has said that he sees the whole thing is justified in as much as afghanistan can't once again become a base for foreignjihadists to once again become a base for foreign jihadists to plot against the west, as you put it. ., , , �* ., against the west, as you put it. honestly, i'm a democrat, i'm it. honestly, i'm a democrat, i'm really _ it. honestly, i'm a democrat, i'm really glad _ it. honestly, i'm a democrat, i'm really glad that _ it. honestly, i'm a democrat, i'm really glad that we - it. honestly, i'm a democrat, i'm really glad that we have l it. honestly, i'm a democrat, i'm really glad that we have a rational president at the helm, but he, like every other president, since george w bush, has really misunderstood the problems that, in this case, afghanistan is already a century

the taliban are also very selective. as anna coren said, they're projecting themselves as the positive force. but the reality is the taliban they're the same. >> that's right. believe what your eyes see. in my many trips to afghanistan, one of the most gratifying things to see was the girls schools that opened up that were banned, frankly, attacked under the taliban and only allowed to resurface after the u.s. invasion. there's a picture there visiting one of them a few years ago. what happens to those girls? what happens to those girls schools now? >> i think afghanistan's gains over the last 20 years are all under immense dangers. afghanistan in 2001, jim, a lot has happened and the country has changed. that's one legacy. the other legacy, quite frajicily, the rural afghanistan, the villages, the valleys, is where air strikes and grenades -- wedding parties were targeted. afghanistan, unless it finds a comprehensive and permanent cease-fire, unless it disnot have a credible peace process, quite frajicily could slide ba

i was called taliban khan. for anyone who objected to this way of i don't know what the objective was in afghanistan, whether it was to have some nation building or democracy or liberate the women, whatever the cause was, the way they went about it was never going to be the solution. so when they finally decided that there is no military solution, unfortunately, they the the bargaining power of the americans or the nato forces had gone. when there were 150000 nato troops in afghanistan that was the time to go for a political solution. but once they had reduced the troops to barely 10,000 and then went to give an exit date, the taliban thought they had won. and so therefore, it was very difficult for now to get them to compromise. it's very difficult to force them into a political solution because they think that, you know, they won. judy: well whatever has happened , in the past, as we said, the taliban now is on the rise in in afghanistan. is that a good outcome for afghanistan? [10.5s] -- for afghanistan? >>

host: we have several maps of areas under taliban control. as far as the president's decision, especially making this decision is it's going on in the country, how did he account? guest: you are right. the taliban has been making huge gains in the past 18 months since president trump's agreement. and has intensified. the taliban has gained 10% of the country, making -- they now control 180 of the 407 districts. these gains are primarily in the north and in critical areas. what we are seeing is the af my assessment is if that happens, the u.s. response would still be limited. president biden has been clear that he wants to get out of afghanistan no matter what. host: he said he was confident going forward to tackle anything that might happen, that the u.s. is adapting. can you elaborate the plan or design considering the state of the country currently? guest: after the americans leave, they will continue operations to keep an eye on the taliban and continue hunting terrorists from outside of afghanistan. currently, the plan is to conduct the o

>> president biden: no, i do not trust that taliban, that's a silly question, do i trust that taliban, no, but i trust the capacity of the afghan military who is better trained, better equipped, and more competent in terms of conducting war. >> benjamin: you cannot trust iran or pakistan who would become the big players in the country, what happens next? being realistic, do they move in quest mark and surely that is a foothold to the countries who are frankly adversaries? >> i don't see iran playing any meaningful role, may be a bid in the western part of the country, remember they are the shiites country, that taliban is a sunni, radical islamic sunni based organization, they are archenemies coming iran had plenty of opportunity to move in across the border, that taliban told them, you will pick the time that you come into our country, we the taliban will pick the time when you leave, i don't see them as being a player at all, pakistan has been a mischief maker throughout, pakistan has always been a backstab or as far as the united states is concerned, they have been our friend shaki

dr. taliban took advantage of that. today's not just the army is the people which are assisting that. yes, of course they saw the vacuum this gap and then date of advantage of it now that people are resisting convent group in afghanistan. polls is, it's what was upon the whole nation by force through fighting. it will never happen . that's why i said that to weekend yet to say that, look from one side, get an opportunity to a peaceful settlement from the other side. if the thinking is that we will, we will capture areas district offered after district and that will lead to as imposing a military solution in that military solution. we want to get it through the talks that will not happen. we need to have inclusive baseball set them back. so the topics one vote, i know that i'm not that much in favor of the strip topics. but to the fact that to the army in the army said mission is not to is not to to, to say that, ok, let's come and take us and they will, they will, they will, they will talk to about according to, to thei