i'm sure the british army last in many more places than that . i'm thinking this is a propaganda in the british army. clearly they, they want to tell where they were told that the graveyard of, i mean they were actually serious allegations are british soldiers torturing and killing children. and as you know, but i mean, i think we get back to this idea of what ger let alone commanding offices. although often nuremberg that may not be any excuse. you know, you know the journal. you had afghan officials in the front by him club. i seem to remember, and they would talk about post conflict development and all sorts of things, but it was all rubbish. no, i think i don't think it was rubbish. i think they were the intentions, but that was a fundamental mistake. clearly i think who all the soldiers i speak to, i don't think that many of i speak to would have come to the hope being a waste of time. i haven't quite caught that fall. yes. but they do feel that they made a terrible mistake by staying in after the initial invasion of acronyms on when they ki

very proud of being in the british army. the british army hasn't actually lost very many wars in its entire history. in fact, one of the ones we lost was the one we mentioned 842, and we just lost 2 wars in afghanistan and iraq over the last 20 years, which had then saw a reputation. that doesn't seem to be a recognition of that because we just play in the americans. so i think there's a lot of confusion about what's happening that's going to take a long time to digest. i'm sure the british army last in many more places than that . i'm thinking this is the propaganda in the british army clearly, but they, they want to tell where they weren't told it's a graveyard. i mean, they were actually serious allegations of british soldiers torturing and killing children as you know. but i mean, i think we get back to this idea of what ger let alone commanding offices. although often you are a bug that may help me any excuse. you know, you know the journal, you had afghan officials in the front club. i seem to remember. and they would

army because he was a british officer for 15 years. and his great fear is he's going to have to fight his old regiment. he hears word that his regiment is being deployed to america and writes something like, heaven save me from having to fight my old regiment. i feel more closer to the people of the 17th regimen than i do with my own family. i hope i don't have to fight these guys. and montgomery, horribly home sick advances to quÉbec city. he meets arnold outside of quÉbec and the americans lay siege to quÉbec. the americans have about 900 men. montgomery left about 500 behind in montreal. he works his way down to quÉbec city. montgomery lays siege to quÉbec for about a month. he tries to shell the city. quÉbec is a walled city. the american artillery is so light, the cannonballs bounce off of them. montgomery sends letters telling the british governor he should surrender. he sends the messages back unopened. montgomery who outranks arnold faces a huge problem and that's on january 1st, most of arnold's arm enlistments expires a

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british army still in new york city. and will remain there until after the war and the continental army is sort of checking them and watching over them. and the problem was the officers had not been paid. why hadn't they been paid? anybody? they don't have any money. pretty much worthless continental dollars. they had also been promised half pay, so a pension. problems? same one as before. >> it's a lot of money. >> yeah, and congress doesn't have it. so this rumblings. especially if a peace comes, what do you think the officers are afraid of? >> no means of getting money. >> they're not needed. >> or if they were injured in the war, they can't work anymore. >> they're not needed. the congressmen never pay them. and what comes to be known as the new berg conspiracy or the new berg affair, depending how you want to term it. continental officers are going to secretly meet and two things they're going to discuss. one, potentially a coup on congress. take over congress until they get paid or two, retreat behind the mountains

army had to surrender to a smaller japanese army and another british army had to surrender to a smaller german army and the british people after 50 years of war were feeling the solutions. and churchill decided against it but to lose malta which was the jewel in the mediterranean crown would be a disastrous road for the paramilitary and the whole empire and so he gave the orders to the real navy that supplies have got to be run to malta at any cost and they knew a chance to get merchant ships through they would have to have airpower and carriers. britain had lost four carriers in the war and only had seven left, smaller than american carriers. four of those carriers for out of seven were committed to operation pedestal along with two battle ships seven cruisers and 30 odd destroyers and eight submarines and the ships in the beginning of august 1942 would dispatch to the passage of 40 merchant vessels to malta and there was a three or four day battle which is one of the bloodiest naval battles in the western war. and sometimes they weren't sure if they were going to find themselves engag

we speak to award winning journalist, simple, my british army captain, who and smith my 2 decades of lives told about the war and ask if truth can be found in the fog of war. while the west and media defer to power and is u. k. bright minister johnson, the government backs new colonialist actions around the world. we speak to the artist to his bringing colonial sculpture to the heart of imperialism, london strip. how get all the more coming up in today's getting underground, but 1st taking place today is another extradition hearing. in the case of julian, the son j trial, that could decide the fate of journalism around the world. there were helix, publisher is famous among other things for the african war logs, one of the largest leeks in u. s. military history. they detailed the horror of the nature war and f can it's done, including hundreds of on reported civilian killings. so what was it all for now that us troops appear to be finally leaving f canister? joining me now from norfolk and the u. k is warn smith, a former soldier and award winning journalist who is embedded with the

you were embed, it would soldiers in helmand, after serving the british army and you get sloppier. what do you make of events now? and i tv screens. i yes, i didn't, i didn't trim, but actually i was embedded with my own old regiment. i'd been assaulted myself in the old days and yes, you're right. that's been so much news and discussion of this, this war. this is a factor to go on. on the 20 year. we've been in a kind of phone for 20 years, very long time. and so i think today people are slightly dump.

twice about a month apart, the british army do front assault right against the turkish army. it costs a lot of british soldier lives and the thousands. it was a humiliating defeat for them so they retreat it. so jamal sitting in jerusalem, he sort of become as hero and this is kind of the outstanding ottoman victory. these two battles of gaza. >> after the british are beaten back. the arabs plan an assault of his own. >> prince faisal knew that importance so he wanted to be in damascus, it is an important place historically and religious. >> damascus was the real capitol for the islamic empire. therefore, arab nationals always -- ideally this would be this dream city for arab kingdom. >> a crucial port city, aqaba is the way to capture damascus. the church have artillery and machine guns. just going to be a replication of what the british have done anywhere else whi. lawrence comes up with this idea that the way to do it is to go in land, come over the mountains and take it from behind. >> in the may, 1917, the decision to take aqaba is taken by fay as isal and lawrence wit a

to a smaller japanese army and another british army surrender to a smaller german army and the british people, we are feeling pretty disillusioned but to lose malta, jewel in the mediterranean crown, lost to the access would be disastrous blow to the credibility of the whole empire. and so he gave the order to the navy that supplies have to be run to malta at any cost and they knew that having a chance of getting ships through they would need air cover. britain had lost 4 carriers in the war and we only had 7 left. smaller than american carriers. well, four of those carriers. four of the 7 were committed to operation pedestal along with two battleships, 7 cruises and 30 destroyers and submarines and these ships beginning of august 1942 were dispatch to cover 14 vessels to malta, what followed 3 or 4-day battle which was one of the bloodiest naval battles of the western war. and sometimes when fleets put to sea, they weren't sure if they were going the find themselves engaged or not. knew that they were going to have the fight the battle of their lives and so they did. the first day aug

western desert force, and the british eighth army. the three el alamein don't just pop out of nowhere, do they? same army handled roughly in june. >> yeah, so i'm going to be scathing of the british army here in the sense the british western desert force actually is very well trained, it has very good doctrine, it knows how to fight in the desert far better than the italians or indeed the germans when they first arrived. but against the german doctrine, the german panzer divisions, they find nothing works. and they get trapped into a cycle of improvisation of trying new things constantly, and every time it fails, so they keep switching, they keep changing, and it has to be said the british forces in the desert have weaknesses, in particular equipments that are really vital in desert fighting. one of the most important, actually, is their radios. the british can't use combined warfare in a way the germans do because they simply don't have the range. they get trapped into this cycle, this expediency of trying new things and it all fails

i don't know of any army in the world had a steeper tougher learning curve than the british hath army originally western desert force and then eventually british eighth army alamein the three alamines. don't just pop out of nowhere. do they the same army had just been handled very roughly in in june at that bizal and over. yeah, so i'm going to be scathing of the british army here in the sense laura the the british western desert force actually is very well trained. it has very good doctrine. it knows how to fight in the desert far better than the italians or indeed the germans when they first arrive and but against the the german doctrine against the german panzer divisions, they find that nothing works and they get trapped into a cycle of improvisation of trying new things constantly and every time it fails so they keep switching they keep changing and it has to be said, you know, the the british forces in the desert have weaknesses in particular equipments that are really vital in desert fighting. one of the most important actually is is there radios and the british can't use combi

troops. >> djemal pasha sees the british army coming, but he's fairly confident that he can win a ground offensive against the british. he's got so many german troops with him that this shouldn't be that difficult. but he has no idea how the british are going to attack. >> what allenby does, rather than just smash up against the wall like happened twice before in gaza, he's going to go inland. >> he executed this brilliant -- that is still studied in military academies where he outflanked the ottomans and within weeks marched on jerusalem. >> djemal pasha, of course, was in overall command of the battle front. >> so the germans say to djemal pasha, look, you're out. and djemal pasha says, no, this is my army, this is my land. but germany being germany says, not only are you out, you will never see jerusalem again. and true to their word, djemal pasha never sees jerusalem again. >> he was eventually removed to the russian front and eventually became a political refugee. >> and djemal pasha was ultimately killed by an armenian because he had a hand in the armenian genocide. >> with command

many worry they will be left behind, like this former british army interpreter who has yet to receive a response to his application. >> is very dangerous for us -- it is very dangerous for us. i have changed my location many times. we are two days, two nights. reporter: he has only got one document from the british army, and it doesn't even say who signed it. but we managed to find his former boss, now a retired soldier in the north of england. >> i absolutely remembered him. he was one of 18 interpreters that i worked with in afghanistan on my tour. like all of the others that i worked with, he was a brave, bright, intelligent lad who actually genuinely wanted to do better for his country. reporter: the british government says no one's life should be put at risk because of their support for the uk's efforts in afghanistan, but that it is working around-the-clock to relocate as many eligible afghans as possible. so are other countries. but these are the last days of those efforts. can many who want to leave are set to be left behind. bbc news, kabul. >> our chief international corresp

the gurkhas are a core part of the british army, the brigade of the british gurkhas, of course, and they have contributed to key wars throughout british history and without them it as history would have been... given independence, a continuing independent britain would have been very different, two world wars, for example. so the background to this is historically there has been a lack of, you know, equal, fair engagement with the gurkhas, particularly on pensions, but in other ways as well. and what happened is in 1997 there was a partial settlement, so from 1997 we had a partial... everyone after 1997, the mod official said, we will provide equal pensions. and as you know, at the end of the gordon brown government that went through, but it was a very imperfect settlement. the people before 1997 were completely left out and if i can just say as well the conditions have been very unequal, often, historically. we still have glass ceilings, for example, on the ranks that gurkhas can attain within the british army as we speak. there is still a band, if famous band of the brigade of the gurk

army surrendered and if the japaneserm army and similar in e british people were pretty disillusioned and churchill decided to get this. they lost to the activists would be a disastrous blow to the entirere empire he gave the ordr to the wrong leg and they knew if they have any chance of getting through their course you have to have a carer and they already lost for carriers and we only have seven left. four of them were committed to the operation along with two pedestals and the destroyers and use ships beginning of august 1942 to cover and was a three or four day battle which was the bloodiest in the west were and sometimes want sure there were going to be engaged or not. nothing much else. the weather was gorgeous, always is in the mediterranean. some of the young ones in the fleet started to think it was going to be a whole deal. they didn't think that anymore after the next day and they were in the middle of the carrier and everybody here's a terrific nice. and the guy at the top was rolling onto the deck and hundreds were going in to see an eight minute big hit, there's nothingg

he's only got one document from the british army, and it doesn't even say who signed it. but we managed to find his former boss, now a retired soldier in the north of england. i absolutely remember him as one of about eight interpreters i worked with out in afghanistan on my tour, and like all of the others that i worked with, he was a brave, bright, intelligent lad who actually genuinely wanted to do better for his country. the british government says no—one's life should be put at risk because of their support for the uk's efforts in afghanistan and that it's working around the clock to relocate as many eligible afghans as possible. so are other countries. but these are the last days of the effort, and many who want to leave are set to left behind. secunder kermani, bbc news, kabul. the taliban's takeover of afghanistan has caused huge anxiety for afghan families settled in the uk who are desperate to help their loved ones still in the country. many fear their relatives are now trapped. our special correspondent ed thomas has been speaking to people here and in kabul.

that experience was just absolutely devastating for the british army. by june of 2010, the british had lost around 300 soldiers, total, and all of afghanistan. but nearly a third of that number, nearly a third of all the british older skilled in the entire country in the entire war, were killed in sangin, and just that one single town in afghanistan. the guardian newspaper in the uk called sangin, the puppy town that became a death town for the british army. it wasn't something that was specific to the british. i one point sangin was responsible for 10% of the daily casualties of the entire nato mission, of all the nato countries fighting in afghanistan, not one little town. amid all that bloodshed, amid the disproportionate share of the bloodshed in the war being centered in that one town, by september of 2010, the british foreign minister announced that sangin was going to go through a serious change, it was no longer going to be britain's problem, primarily. he announced that henceforth, all responsibility for sangin would be taken over by the americ

he's only got one document from the british army, and it doesn't even say who signed it. but we managed to find his former boss, now a retired soldier in the north of england. i absolutely remember him as one of about eight- interpreters i worked with out in afghanistan on my tour, i and like all of the others that i i worked with, he was a brave, bright, intelligent lad - who actually genuinely wanted to do better for his country. the british government says no—one's life should be put at risk because of their support for the uk's efforts in afghanistan and that it's working around the clock to relocate as many eligible afghans as possible. so are other countries. but these are the last days of the effort, and many who want to leave are set to left behind. secunder kermani, bbc news, kabul. well, that was the situation in afghanistan. meanwhile, the uk foreign office is warning people there to stay away from kabul airport due to a "high threat of a terrorist attack". the latest advice says anyone in the area should "move away to a safe location" and that travelling by

he's only got one document from the british army, and it doesn't even say who signed it. but we managed to find his former boss, now a retired soldier in the north of england. i absolutely remember him as one of about eight- and like all of the others that i i worked with, he was a brave, bright, intelligent lad - who actually genuinely wanted to do better for his country. the british government says no—one's life should be put at risk because of their support for the uk's efforts in afghanistan and that it's working around the clock to relocate as many eligible afghans as possible. so are other countries. but these are the last days of the effort, and many who want to leave are set to left behind. secunder kermani, bbc news, kabul. don't forget you can get more on the rapidly developing situation in afghanistan on our website. there you'll find a live page updated with the latest developments as those evacuations from kabul airport gather pace. protection against coronavirus starts to reduce within six months of people being fully vaccinated with the pfizer or astrazen

things are politically collapsing, the british army has obtained from port washington, the other victory has caused a swing in the united states where people are abandoning the cause. they are signing off of allegiance for the crown. they are jumping sides. the enlistments in the regiment set to expire and they are expiring, washington's army melting away, a desperate situation and decides to attack the haitian outposts. the marvel headers have their finest hour. it is a situation where everything changes. everything is about to collapse on the shoulders of the marvel headers again. washington has an elaborate plan. four prongs will attack the trend, they are taking to the delaware river on the main prong. all of them fail and the marvel headers have the skill to cross the delaware river which is filled with ice which is fast-growing. nothing is going according to plan. all of the other prongs to washington's offense have failed but the marvel headers get the army across intact at least one portion of it. the other 3 failed. that night they are behind schedule, 12 miles above trenton and

but it's one of many situations and literally two weeks later the british land again at kips bay and it's the marblehead others that make a stand while the rest of the army retreat it's here where washington was catatonic as the british are attacking, he in his horse are frozennd in time somebody has to come and bring him out of the bottle as the british are advancing a hundred yards away, marble headers stand as army melts away, the army melts away in the marble headers make a desperate stand in their able to reform at the battle and there's a small victory. , is the marble headers that are involved in really interesting operation during this time. where they conduct raids against the british, the marble headers in many ways are a special operation unit that we know today. , they are doing things that are special in each store near they launched against the british prior to the battle brooklyn but it nearly would take out the british battleship they also perform the guard the commander-in-chief's guard or the lifeguard the lifeguard is an extraordinary unit is a precursor in many wa

he's only got one document from the british army, and it doesn't even say who signed it. but we managed to find his former boss, now a retired soldier in the north of england. i absolutely remember him as one i of about eight interpreters i worked with out in afghanistan on my tour, and like all of the others that - i worked with, he was a brave, - bright, intelligent lad who actually genuinely wanted to do better for his country. i the british government says no—one's life should be put at risk because of their support for the uk's efforts in afghanistan and that it's working around the clock to relocate as many eligible afghans as possible. so are other countries. but these are the last days of the effort, and many who want to leave are set to left behind. secunder kermani, bbc news, kabul. that's the situation in kabul. as we said, the us secretary of state has insisted that efforts will continue to evacuate us citizens and some afghans after the end of the month. here's what antony blinken had to say earlier. as the president said yesterday, we are on track to compl

for years, for example, the british army had been engaged here in the town of sangin in helmand province. and that area -- helmand province prominently but that area and sangin was a key center for the opium trade. it was also just absolutely swarming with taliban fighters. so on the earlier side of the war, the first decade of the war, the british were deployed there to try to beat back the taliban, prop up support for the afghan government there, and that experience was just absolutely devastating for the british army. by june of 2010 the british had lost around 300 soldiers total in all of afghanistan, but nearly a third of that number, nearly a third of all the british soldiers killed in the entire country, in the entire war, were killed in sangin in just that one single town in afghanistan. the guardian newspaper in the uk called sangin the poppy town that became a death trap for the british army. and it wasn't something that was specific to the british. at one point sangin was responsible for more than 10% of the daily casualties of the entire nato mission, of all the nato countrie

he's only got one document from the british army, and it doesn't even say who signed it. but we managed to find his former boss, now a retired soldier in the north of england. i absolutely remember him as one of about eight- interpreters i worked with out in afghanistan on my tour, i and like all of the others that i i worked with, he was a brave, bright, intelligent lad - who actually genuinely wanted to do better for his country. the british government says no—one's life should be put at risk because of their support for the uk's efforts in afghanistan and that it's working around the clock to relocate as many eligible afghans as possible. so are other countries. but these are the last days of the effort, and many who want to leave are set to left behind. secunder kermani, bbc news, kabul. one of the key reasons president biden wants to stick to this august 31st deadline is because of his concern of a terror attack. and one of the groups identified by his national security team has been named isis-k. so who are they, and what sort of threat do they carry? we know that

he's only got one document from the british army, and it doesn't even say who signed it. but we managed to find his former boss, now a retired soldier in the north of england. i absolutely remember him as one of about eight- interpreters i worked with out in afghanistan on my tour, i and like all of the others that i i worked with, he was a brave, bright, intelligent lad - who actually genuinely wanted to do better for his country. the british government says no—one's life should be put at risk because of their support for the uk's efforts in afghanistan and that it's working around the clock to relocate as many eligible afghans as possible. so are other countries. but these are the last days of the effort, and many who want to leave are set to left behind. secunder kermani, bbc news, kabul. don't forget you can get more on the rapidly developing situation in afghanistan on our website. there you'll find a live page updated with the latest developments as those evacuations from kabul airport gather pace. protection against coronavirus starts to reduce within six months

he's only got one document from the british army, and it doesn't even say who signed it. but we managed to find his former boss — now a retired soldier in the north of england. i absolutely remember him as one of about_ i absolutely remember him as one of about eight— i absolutely remember him as one of about eight interpreters i worked with out — about eight interpreters i worked with out in afghanistan on my tour, and like _ with out in afghanistan on my tour, and like all— with out in afghanistan on my tour, and like all of the others that i worked — and like all of the others that i worked with, he was a brave, bright, intelligent— worked with, he was a brave, bright, intelligent lad who actually genuinely wanted to do better for his country. the british government says no—one's life should be put at risk because of their support for the uk's efforts in afghanistan and that it's working around the clock to relocate as many eligible afghans as possible. so are other countries. but these are the last days of the effort, and many who want to leave are set t

army -- indian ally and british led army was going to cut through kentucky and go through -- over the mountains or through the mountains, the cumberland gap or how they could get into virginia and into north carolina and start a two-front war that probably would have doomed the american revolution, it was daniel boone who was the leader of that -- the fort that everybody turned to for leadership. and they survived that siege, that if boonesboro had fallen we might write a different history of the outcome of the american revolution. and most people, we understand, who think they know daniel boone, have no idea what a pivotal role he played in the american revolution. that he seemed to have this zeal-like way to show up. there was daniel boone serving with george washington in 1755 when the british general braddock, during one of the biggest defeats the british army ever suffered in the americas, and barely -- both of them, washington and boon, barely made it out of there with their lives. and we also found humor with daniel boone. he was a man with a good sense of humor. he would like

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the british army which had surrounded the american army there was about to come up with the east river and also siege lines were creeping forward. it was a perilous time. it was a time in our history when all could be lost. washington had a decision to make. was he going to retreat or fight and washington decided to retreat. this is the time when all could be lost. the entire army could be surrounded and destroyed and everything rested upon the shoulders of the men in the book that i've written about, the marblehead men. washington decided to retreat and he had to cross a mile long river, the east river and this is -- let me take you back in time to august 30 . there had been a massive nor'easter that had pelted both armies for two days straight after the battle of brooklyn . each lines and then creeping forward into the american position at brooklyn heights and lord howells army was closer and closer to annihilatingthe american army . washington decides to escape john glover and the marblehead men they basically gather all the goats that are in manhattan and they man those votes and t

the british army which had surrounded the american army there, they were about to come around, come up the east river and also these lines were creeping forward. it was a time in our history where all could be lost. washington had a decision to make. retreat or fight. washington widely decided to retreat. this is a time when all could be lost. the entire army could be surrounded and destroyed. everything really rested upon the soldiers of the men in the book i have written about. washington decided to retreat. he had to cross a mile-long river, the east river. let me sort of take you back in time to august 29, august 30. a massive nor'easter that tilted both armies for two days straight after the battle of brooklyn. creeping forward to the american positions at brooklyn heights. the army was closer and closer to annihilating the american army. washington decides to escape. john glover, they basically gather all the boats and they man those boats and they ferried the army across the east river. this is not an easy task. the eastt river at the time is swarming. the wind is not cooperatin

army and indian ally and british led army was going to cut through kentucky go through the over the mountains or through the mountains the cumberland gap or how they could get to the into, virginia, north carolina and started two front war that probably would have doomed the american revolution. it was daniel boone. who was the leader of that the fort that everybody turned to for leadership and they they survived that siege that if boonsboro had fallen. we might be writing a very different history of the outcome of the american revolution and most people we understand who think they know daniel boone had no idea. what a pivotal role he played the american revolution. that that he seemed to have this the zelig like a way to to show up. i mean there was there was daniel boone serving with george, washington in 1755 under the british general braddock during one of the most biggest defeats that a british army ever suffered in the in the americas they barely both of them washington and boone barely made it out of there with with their lives. um, and we also found humor with daniel boone. he was a

we can speak now to the lord richard dannatt — former head of the british army between 2006 and 2009. thank you so much forjoining us here on the programme. interesting, my colleagues are making this analysis, that in 2001, when the united states and its allies entered afghanistan, the taliban did not control the entire country. there was anywhere between two and 10% less, but today, they are in a position where as the americans leave, they control or will be controlling almost the entire afghanistan.— controlling almost the entire afghanistan. controlling almost the entire afuhanistan. , . ~ ., afghanistan. yes, and i think that is a very important _ afghanistan. yes, and i think that is a very important point. - afghanistan. yes, and i think that is a very important point. i - afghanistan. yes, and i think that is a very important point. i think. is a very important point. i think most people would agree that it was right in 2001 for the american led operation which the british supported to get into afghanistan, to sweep out the taliban from that proportion of the country, that th