from american university and has been moved to the author of the novel and three other collection, derksen bicycle, midnight and cabinet of wrath a collection moderate the discussion between three powerful poets is e ethel berg miller award-winning literary activist and author of two memoirs and several poetry collections. he house the morning radio show, with e ethelbert miller which received 82020 kelly award. his latest book is god invented baseball, was awarded the 2019 literary award for poetry by the black caucus of the american library association. as i turn it over too all of you, the only regret i have is that we are not celebrating your work in person. we look forward to doing that next time so for now welcome joseph, kim, kara and ethelbert rick. >> it's very nice to be with you. let's begin with you. january 6 the attack on her capitol. immediately many people made reference to the war of 1812. take us back to 1812 and talk about some of the writers that have read in your book. but the historical insight in what we saw happen this year. >> my anthology starts with 1800 when d.c