donald trump not really meaningfully changed from the donald trump and trump tower to the donald trump in the white house to the donald trump and mar-a-lago. he is the same person. he conducts himself in the same way. the presidency really did not alter how he feels his day for changed his focus. one of the things that i think is often said is the residency changes whoever occupies the office. i don't think that is been true about donald trump he has remained singularly donald trump. it's another curious point is that he does not have to be the president to be donald trump. that is also a dangerous point. it is not donald trump it's not president donald trump who has enthralled so much of the country. it is donald trump whatever that character is. whatever role that actor which is what he is in many respects is played very. >> a couple more calls will go to shirley and north carolina good morning. >> good morning. >> caller: i do not tnk donald trump is crazy but he might be narcissistic. but, the biden white house. >> can i -- make is it possible i could interrupt you before you ask y

it's going to be donald trump's party and it's going to be whoever donald trump decides to bring along with them. and i'll say this because people like to call trump supporters my unless that is as long as donald trump states about stays true to the values that got him where he is. and the reason there was so much tumult once he was elected is because he came in and shut things up and did it to them. the way, the sort of almost one party system that we've seen over the last couple of decades emerge where democrats and republicans were practically indistinguishable. what problem is they're not interested, real republicans are not interested in having that kind of leader represent them. they want leaders that are out there, you know, setting it on fire like, you know, saying things that, that bring us together. thing, things that dismantle the swamp. those are the kinds of things donald trump did, and others like matt gates, others like crime to santa and that's you can, you can honestly tell who the most successful, most beloved. and the most feared republicans are by looking at who the

man, donald trump is great. you look at the most popular cable station as fox news, then you have news max. then you have the post, the new york post. you have all the concept that donald trump's message is not getting out is an absolute mess. it's bizarre and it's simply not true. the messengers of the, the fresh donald trump is for, for, for was popular president in american history. there was a whole, came out the other day that joe biden's approval rang. joe biden's approval rating is now the lowest ever been, and it is still higher than trump's highest approval rating. i mean, it's just that there's a universe of people who believe these years the were the carrier conway years alternative. they're facts. they're just not true. i mean, that's the point of point of fact peter point, in fact, peter joe biden approval rating and just his 1st year in office is one to 5 points lower than jimmy carter's approval rating was his 1st year in office. and joe biden isn't even 8 months through it yet. so talk about popu

very bad things happen to donald trump when people see his tax returns and donald trump knows that which is why he always tries to prevent anyone from seeing his tax returns. donald trump has suffered another big loss in his lifelong campaign to hide his tax returns. the trump treasury department in the trump justice department violated the law and lied about the law by refusing to allow the irs to handle her donald trump's tax returns to the chairman of the house, richard neil. the law on this couldn't be simpler. it has no exceptions. the law requires the irs to hand over any tax returns requested by the chairman of the health means committee or, the chairman of the senate finance committees. the chairs of those committees have authority that the president doesn't have. the president cannot demand to see tax returns, the chairman of the committee can. two years ago, chairman neill demanded to see the trump tax returns, and now, the justice department has purged itself of the lies that the trump justice department told to withhold those tax returns from the chairman of the house the com

he was sued by donald trump, in 2006. and he, of course, won and crushed donald trump in court. tim, there's such an interesting through line here going back to colonel vindman, who appeared in the previous hour with ali velshi. you'll remember, in the ukraine situation, donald trump was on the phone simply trying to get them to say that they were having an investigation of joe biden in -- in ukraine. they didn't even have to have the investigation. he just wanted them to say that they were having an investigation. that's an echo of what we're seeing in these department of justice notes. just say you, at the department of justice, just say there was something wrong with the election. that's all you have to do. you don't actually have to do the work and find anything wrong with the election. >> that's actually, also, happening in a -- in a -- in a theatrically-grotesque way in arizona. where you have this sham recount going on. and republican officials from pennsylvania and wisconsin have -- have visited arizona to watch that process, lawrence. and i think, um, they don't really

it is exposing to donald trump. yeah, this is another chapter of this, i don't think there is a lot political, sure. i think l of tolerance is baked into his support. i think it is another step in the process. >> i mean neil, ironically, the way to avoid leaking is giving it to the congressional committee, they're not allowed to dispose it to the public. what kind of legal case do trump's lawyers have here? >> it is not a strong one. looks like we find a draft that donald trump could not ducked. this is not hard. donald trump is worried of his investigators that the investigation is a political attack on him. there is no exception in the law because donald trump feels like a victim. that's not a thing in the law. the only people that this law is not clear to are the people in the world of trump's clan who thinks donald trump can install himself as president in august and people like jeffery clark who we are talking about earlier write these bogus letters and destroying what the law in words of what the english langu

in the conservative 15th district republicans facing a test of donald trump's influence. a few minutes ago "the associated press" declared the trump-backed coal lobbyist mike carey the winner in ohio's 15th congressional district. msnbc will continue to follow tonight's election results as they unfold. >>> that's it for us tonight. see you again tomorrow. i will see you tomorrow morning at 4:00 p.m. eastern. time for "the last word with lawrence o'donnell". >> thank you very much for that ohio report because that is now everything i know about the ohio house races tonight. there is so much news pouring down on us that i have not been able to get to that one tonight. so you have just taught me everything i know about it. >> the tea leaf reading, having worked in politics, there is too much tea leaf reading. tea leaves to be read should you choose. >> we will have tea leaf time tomorrow on those election results tonight. >> have a great show. >> thank you, nicole. >>> well, andrew cuomo is a man alone tonight. he is a politician very much alone tonight. every democrat whom

so why is donald trump not charged with any crimes? why is he chilling at his golf resort a free bird? why isn't there any legal accountability for trump himself and what is the department of justice doing? these are all urgent and legitimate questions that need to be asked. especially considering what we are learning about trump's efforts to manipulate that same justice department to try and stay in power. chris has talked at length on this show about trump's ally, the former acting head of the civil division, a guy named jeffrey clark and how clark proposed his boss, jeffrey rosen, signed a letter to officials in multiple states encouraging the state legislatures to send new electors based on nonexistent voter fraud. that is something that would have thrown the post election process into chaos. it was reported in "the new york times" in january that when the acting general refused, clark colluded with trump behind his back then informed mr. rosen that the president intended to replace him with mr. clark who could then try to stop con

what donald trump did was in plain sight. and for better or worse, every indication is that he actually believes that there was fraud in this investigation. so telling people to investigate fraud does not appear to me to be evidence of a crime. >> seriously, jeff? >> do you think his speech on january 6th where he said let's march to the capitol, let's be strong. do you think that's a crime he should go to jail for? >> seriously, jeff, now you want us to believe that donald trump was speaking the truth? you wrote in our op-ed that trump would assert, he was seeking to uphold the law and we're supposed to believe him. jeff, this was a person who lied 30,000 times. we're not going to believe him for the first time now. and i think it's equally plausible and more than plausible enough for the attorney general to open an investigation that when donald trump says to the georgia secretary of state, just find 11,780 votes corrupt, and leave the rest to me. he knew that there was no basis. look at the ridiculous grounds for his claim

it's wild that they have chosen donald trump they're going down. i know a lot of black folks also refusing to be vaccinated and they too are citing their christian beliefs. this has bled over. these are people that would never believe maga people on anything else but are believing the garbage that these people are spewing onto facebook. is there any way you can explain that? >> i would say dr. anthea butler is the expert on religiosity and what we're seeing right now. i would say this. as i talk to other african-americans, some of whom refuse to get vaccinated, it comes from this long history of distrust of the government, medical system. obviously there are a lot of african-americans who are prone to conspiracy theories because of what has been done in the past. you know, it's not crazy to think that the government is sinister and working against particular communities. but we have to sort of, i think, meet people and really walk them through their internet research versus what is proven and what is fact. i think this is also part of the insidious

donald trump won. we got a vote 9-0 immediately to pull this down and get rid of whatever the communists that are here. >> well, it's past 8:00 p.m. eastern on the 13th of august and you will be shocked to hear that joe biden is still the president of the united states. now, we could laugh at this craziness but it's dangerous. think about what a deeply perilous moment for our democracy when a man who sells pillows on cable television has convinced tens of millions of americans that a safe, secure, democratic election was stolen. earlier this week the pillow man held a bizarre multi level symposium where he planned to reveal his truth. he began the proceedings by blaming technical difficulties on a cyber attack and was unable to provide a single shred of evidence to prove his cause. >> wouldn't it be better for you to hand it over to as many cyber experts as possible? >> i'll give you the answer. because i've been told they can go out there and corrupt it and make fake stuff and put fake news out so i d

where the department of the interior said that this was not planned to clear the way for donald trump however, with that report it does type bill barr directly to the order to clear the place. some bill barr, some people said exonerate him, not at all not if you read the report fact is that what bill barr said to that person was on these people still going to be here when the president comes out in a couple of minutes which we knew the attorney general says like that, when the clearing immediately follows in the present walk-through, think it is fair to blame him for that. so that is sort of one of the lesser remembered i think anecdotes predict to me it exemplifies the arrogance of bill barr and his lack of humility which i talk about a lot because he never had to go through this morning process. sometimes painful burning process that i had to the turnabout in the book. >> and i think one of the things that strikes me, not just reading the book but also drawing parallels to the real world is that we are in the midst of this information battle in trying, there's always the narratives

donald trump primed his base to expect fraud. he incited them with his words. he dispatched members of the republican party to do the same and so it's not surprising they chose to act on 1/6. yeah, maybe it was a bunch of random people who stormed the capitol. maybe it was not some master plan. but if it was just a bunch of randoms, of individuals, you have to ask, who whipped them up? why did they decide to attack the capitol seemingly out of the blue? since january 6th trump has called his rally a love fest and praying the rioter shot dead trying to breach the house chamber, a martyr, attacked the officer who shot her saying it was unprovoked. today that officer was exonerated in an internal probe that end the investigations into that incident. you don't have to look far to see the impact of donald trump's words and his continued incitement of violence. just look at the near disaster in washington, d.c., yesterday when a trump supporter parked his truck near the capitol and threatened to blow it up all while live-streaming on his facebook feed that the electi

donald trump. i mean, you give me nasty cuomo and i'll give you at least 26 accusers who have alleged trump committed everything from sexual harassment to rape. cue miss e. jean carroll who interviewed on my former show "a.m. joy" back in 2019. >> i walked in right in front of him and he shut the door and bang, right against the wall. >> so immediately upon walking into that dressing room he attacked you? >> right against the wall. like i'm just going to love kissing this guy. it was -- i was so surprised. >> did he say anything or -- >> no. >> -- indicate trying to get consent from you -- >> no. >> did you want him to kiss you? >> i guess this is what he thought was -- >> that he could do. you mean that he thinks he's a celebrity, he can just kiss you. which is something he's said. >> he can take what he wants. >> yeah. >> mm-hmm and it's not just miss e. jean. >> it was a real shock when all of a sudden his hands were all over me. he started encroaching on my space. and i hesitate to use this exp

where the department of the interior said that this was not planned to clear the way for donald trump however, with that report it does type bill barr directly to the order to clear the place. some bill barr, some people said exonerate him, not at all not if you read the report fact is that what bill barr said to that person was on these people still going to be here when the president comes out in a couple of minutes which we knew the attorney general says like that, when the clearing immediately follows in the present walk-through, think it is fair to blame him for that. so that is sort of one of the lesser remembered i think anecdotes predict to me it exemplifies the arrogance of bill barr and his lack of humility which i talk about a lot because he never had to go through this morning process. sometimes painful burning process that i had to the turnabout in the book. >> and i think one of the things that strikes me, not just reading the book but also drawing parallels to the real world is that we are in the midst of this information battle in trying, there's always the narratives

he understood donald trump wanted to be untouchable and was willing and able to make that happen. as i sort of synergy there between bill barr's executive you and donald trump read and he didn't praise academically big remember the donald trump said either present, i can do whatever i want and bill barr recognize that we are sort of together on this and he could really implement a lot of his agenda and personal beliefs through donald trump or without donald trump interfering so i think they did sort of you each other as a means to an end afraid donald trump viewed bill barr, he said i will clear you for mueller which is exactly what happened that's all trump cared about and sort of it may be somewhat unwitting means to bill barr's own personal and buried. >> and i think the relationship was apparent when you go back to what was uncovered without trump viewed it giuliani and bill barr almost an a similar grouping and i don't know what it says more about either trump or bill barr to be viewed in that manner or if trump saw him as someone who just go along with things as opposed to b

biden, blaming donald trump, this is not the plan you and donald trump agreed to. >> no, this is all on president biden. he's done two -- he's taken the most dishonorable path available. he ignored sound military advice. there is no plan to get u.s. citizens outside of kabul into kabul, and once they get to kabul there is no plan to make the taliban let them through but here's what i take today from the news conference. we just issued a death sentence to all of those who fought with in us afghanistan. it's clear to me they are resetting the table here and they are trying to move the ball and say, we're going to focus on american citizens and we're going to leave behind the thousands of afghans who honorably fought along our side. that's what they are saying today, so two things have happened here. one, the chance of another 9/11 is 10 fold because of the way biden has handled this and the chance of other people helping us in the future after this debacle is almost zero, so joe biden and apparently our generals and our secretary of defense will willing to sacrifice all of those who he

when donald trump was sitting there. as chief of our entire country, during this large pandemic, that was the largest of our generation and continues on today. look at the origin is right there. it started from day one. this divisiveness, on covid started with him, in a continues, this legacy continues today. in this negligent shameful behavior, by people who call themselves, or who are elected officials, who are undeserving in my opinion, of the title, of title of u.s. senator for rand paul, case in point who is one of the major superspreaders i would say of misinformation on covid, and other conspiracy theories. they're undeserving of elected to assess. they're negligent and they're putting americans continuously at risk. he is inciting people, we've already seen fights over mask mandates, we've seen people how angry they are, the way they behave. we've see that this type of rhetoric, encourages this behavior. by their supporters and it's just greed. it's greed for power. to remain in power at whatever cost. and whatev

donald, individual number one, did not, that's donald trump. somewhere in their examination of allan weisselberg's intersection with both of those men, they believe he lied about something. we know from the tape that michael cohen made at that time that donald trump told him to go talk to alan, in the tape, about how to handle the money. the problem with this is, alan weisselberg is now possibly a -- going to be a key witness for the manhattan district attorney's office if he flips. but the fact that he perjured himself during the federal investigation raises all kinds of questions about the extent to which he will cooperate or not now with the manhattan district attorney, whether or not his testimony is going to be credible, and a third question as to why the southern district of new york did not press him harder and go after him more aggressively if they believed he per jerred himself. this has all gotten extremely messy and it's going to i think cloud how the manhattan district attorney's office uses him and raise questions about whether he'

first of all, donald trump has juice. i don't know how he's squeezing it or who is squeezing it, but he has juice. i think ms. wright lost because she didn't run a good campaign. >> in texas. >> she didn't run a good campaign. she didn't have the money. she had the message, but she didn't have the mojo. donald trump still has juice. anyone that thinks his juice is waning, huh-uh. i'm not playing with that ball of fire. i watched from 2016 to 2020 how his support continued to grow. he has juice, but he's one corrupt individual. i hope the january 6th committee will keep digging and investigate this as impartially as possible so we can get to the bottom of it. >> one interestingueor democrats is do we want to have a trump conversation and will that help get out the vote for democrats or will that distract around other messages? i think for republicans it's not obvious because it could be that actually focusing on january 6th and what have you actually could not necessarily be the worst outcome. it's very interesting to see

donald trump was on sean hannity last night. he was asked about those comments president biden made. this was president trump from last night. >> what we were going to do, very quickly, was to take the military out last. people were coming out, they were coming out. the agreement was violated, so i held things back because we weren't going to do anything condition based. they were meeting obligated is best obligations and conditions. the people come out first, and we were going to take all of the military equipment. we have billions and billions of military equipment, blackhawks, and russia will be examining and china, and everything else to figure out the greatest the world. we have army tanks and all sorts of equipment. everything. i was going to take it out, because i knew they were not going to fight. this is one thing i have to say, and it is different from everything else. why are they fighting? why are the afghan soldiers fighting against the taliban? i was told very bad information by a lot of people. the fact is, the hi

factor number two is donald trump was believed. donald trump made a threat, they believed it because he had a track record while isis grew under biden and obama, isis was systematically destroyed under donald trump. he said it ended it on the taliban new what would happen if they didn't abide by any agreement that went on. they wouldn't have tried this under trump would be my argument. your thoughts? >> first of all, i don't know that joe biden has threatened anybody with anything. there is no way of knowing. it seems to be to attack your allies, you know your enemies, pretend that bad things aren't happening. i watched the speech this afternoon and for most people if you took what you were seeing live coming out of afghanistan of the crowds and the fear, the takeover by the tablet band and then you looked at the speech by this guy who was clearly totally out of it, has no idea what's going on and his number one goal in that speech was to blame anyone else, he said the buck stops here. he didn't mean that. it stops with the afghan

work on those knots. >> thank you. >> donald trump did try to overthrow the election. not just what's -- was sore loser tweets he tried to use the office of the presidency and course others into using their federal offices to actually overthrow the election. as officials say, and why isn't he being held accountable for not only telling the big lie that the election was stolen then actually trying to make that a reality? these questions demand answers, especially as we learn even more about the trump idea to use the justice department in a scheme. the new york times report says trump's former acting attorney general met with the justice department offer of the -- on friday and delivered testimony on saturday are. jeffrey rosen detailed efforts by jeffrey clark, this man, did then acting head of the civil division to help trump subvert the election results according to the times clark. quote it's never that simple for people in trump's orbit. there were continued statements that were and true. jeffrey rosen also told quote. here is the senate judiciary chairman dickson d

donald trump has no interest in helping joe biden succeed. they don't. that's why this has become a political football, because there are political actors who do not want joe biden to succeed. it was real easy for people like ron desantis to go and say we're going to open up florida because it looked like the vaccines were going to work and cases were going down. he made a gamble on that. i think that's blowing up in his face right now. but this idea that, you know, after 600,000 deaths, being locked down for a year and a half, we're going to have some magical messenger that comes over and convinces them? i just don't believe it. i'm ready to move on. i'm ready to protect the people who want to be protected and beat this pandemic. >> but listen, let me just say, i know we're probably about to go somewhere else, but let me just say this. there are people who cannot protect themselves. >> i know. i know. >> that's who we need to protect, bakari. >> i know, i hear you. i'm all about whatever the vaccine passport or lock this down or lock that down. >> i'm n

biden hung onto of donald trump? he reversed every policy there was. host: we will take that point. fred kempe? guest: we still have troops in germany in the middle east. i agree with the general argument that our investment in security pays off overall for the american people. that said, we have been overreliance on the military side. we haven't invested enough in the diplomatic side of this. you see china, whatever you think of china, they are in a very sophisticated way using the belt and wrote initiative and investments and -- the belt and road initiative and investments. if the biden administration, like the trump administration, sees china as the primary rival, you have to think in nonmilitary terms. the military, as we have seen in afghanistan and elsewhere, will only get us so far. one thing i want to say the previous caller and the advertising of the taliban and the press covering, what i worry about most is the media is not out in places the way it needs to be and used to be. i work at the wall street journ

did donald trump himself truly think he won the election? did he believe it, or was his insistence that he won an expression of his usual careless drama or a matter of psychological denial like the fact of his loss would break his psyche? but interesting enough, i don't think it would have broken it in 2016. was the idea he had been rejected by a majority of voters just unbelievable to him, or was stop the steal just the way to excite and entertain his followers and also explain to them their defeat, they have lost it, they fought the great fight, they fought effectively but it had been stolen from them? i ask you this because i have talked to people around trump, and i've heard then wonder really believe what he was saying. so did you ever see anything that made you think he does believe it, or this is totally fully cynical? >> now i don't think it is totally fully cynical. i think it's all, i think it's all sort of -- you are right, part of it enters going to be the people around trump, the people closest to trump as you just mentioned the

have an excellent night and work on those knots. >>> well donald trump did try to overthrow the election not just with sore loser tweets. he tried as we have discussed to use the office of the presidency and to coerce others into using their federal offices to actually overthrow the election. so as rachel says why isn't he being held accountable for not only telling the big lie that the election was stolen but actually trying to make that a reality? these questions demand answers especially as we learn even more about trump's efforts to use the justice department in his scheme. the "new york times" reports jeffrey rosen trump's former acting attorney general met with the justice department's office of the inspector general on friday and delivered damning closed door testimony to the senate judiciary committee on saturday. jeffrey rosen detailed efforts by jeffrey clark, this man, the then acting head of the justice department civil division, to help trump subvert the election results. according to "the times" rosen told investigators clark quote admitted meeting with mr. trump and pledge

invitamos subsecretario de defensa durante la presidencia de donald trump. ilia: adelante, serio, nuestra primera pregunta. tÚ fuiste e militar, tu hijo es militar y estÁ en ese momento destacado afuera cuÁl es tu opiniÓn sobre la manera en el que el presidente biden ejecutÓ la retirada de las tropas? >> gracias. esto lo vemos, hay que tomar en cuenta que los soldados cumplieron, los nombres de las fuerzas armadas de los estados unidos cumplieron con su deber, hicieron todo lo que se despidiÓ de ello, y todavÍa somos las fuerzas armadas mÁs poderosas de todo el mundo. pero, en la manera cÓmo tuvimos ese despliegue, fue una falta de liderazgo. eso ha debilitado nuestra defensa nacional. produce una pÉrdida de confianza, no sÓlo con el pueblo norteamericano, sino tambiÉn con nuestros aliados y socios. todo estaba funcionando de una manera ordenada, y en un proceso de un fin de semana, todo terminÓ. lo que sucede ahora es que esto va a invitar retos por nuestros enemigos y adversarios como china, rusia, irÁn, corea norte, y mÁs terroristas islÁm

donald trump's father and what's shaped him in the family. now, you're taking a look at the country that shaped him, the country he grew up in, the lies this country has told to itself, which is all part of donald trump's own conditioning in lying about himself throughout his life. >> yeah, when i started to formulate the idea for this book, we were back in the worsening era of covid, the second wave, i believe it was in september, october, before the election. fingers were looking quite desperate, politically and from a health standpoint, and i wanted to figure out how we got to this place where we were so vulnerable, as a country, on almost every level. our democracy was on the brink, the american experiment was on the edge of failure, and hundreds of thousands of americans were dying, needlessly, because of the malfeasance and ineptitude of donald administration. it seemed -- it felt like we needed to go back farther to understand how so much unraveled over a short period of time. i found two interesting and disturbing coincidences, simila

donald trump was accused by two dozen women of sexual misconduct, sexual assault, donald trump this is. not andrew cuomo. donald trump was accused of rape, which he also denied. he abused his office including trying to overturn the election results. he held a pep rally for an attack on the capitol and impeached by democrats twice but republicans have twisted themselves into pretzels to defend him or make excuses and that is the contrast. by in large, democrats believe in things and they will turn on other democrats who violate their core values. republicans in the era of trump have made gaining and holding on to power their only core value. today, however, there was a crack, maybe. today the senate passed the largest federal infrastructure investment in decades. 69 senators approved the bill that provides $550 billion in new spending for roads, bridges, public transit and power grids. 19 republicans including the typically obstructionest mitch mcconnell broke from trump and voted to pass this legislation. republicans actively rebuffed trump that campaigned against the bill. when is the

most loyal, most in the weeds of getting donald trump reelected. he was ecstatic to describe to us that bill barr failed him in the end and got worried about media criticism and failed by not doing what he needed to do to investigate and prosecute the allegations of fraud that trump said existed and called nonsense. he finally gets to tell his version of the reality. even if it doesn't stack up with the truth, he gets to say it. >> a lot of the coverage in your book that you've gotten with glowing reviews and you've made news everywhere with this which also is an estimate to how much is there, the idea that a presidency that was reported on so exhaustively for four years and especially in the past year, you were able to get jaw dropping new information and some the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, extraordinary kind of blow-by-blow account with donald trump supporters and the comparisons with nazi germany that could take a step. it's not like a random thing but as a military officer in the united states chosen for that job by donald trump. my

donald trump was in room watching television while that was happening. juan: and phil rucker, the first section of your book deals with president trump's response to the clearest crisis of his presidency, the covid pandemic command he told you he thinks they did a great job on covid and it has not been recognized. can you talk about his paranoia on the drug manufacturers tried to delay the covid vaccine to hurt his election chances? philip: sure. trump seemed to think that all of his enemies, his perceived enemies were out to get him during the covid pandemic, in part because he saw the pandemic through the prism of his reelection chances. he thought he was on a glide path to winning a second term before covid arrived and that covid spoiled his chances of winning the election last november. he had particular disdain for pharmaceutical companies, drugmakers, in part because of tensions earlier in the administration between the industry and his administration, but during covid, hehought they were slow walking the development of the vaccine. he thought it w

mike pence is given the fig leaf he needs to keep donald trump in power. or maybe it gets thrown to the house and the 30 states of republican legislators vote for donald trump. the plan fell apart when senior doj officials put their careers on the line to their great credit to stop it. but who knows what could have happened? there are all sorts of ways this could have played out and none of them good. democratic congresswoman ro khanna is a member of the house oversight committee. congressman, i want to start with this email that's an indicator of the scope of the plot that was unearthed by the committee that you serve on. this is an email to rosen and donoghue on december 28th. and he explains the georgia letter we reported last night. says attached is a draft letter concerning the broader topic of election irregularities of any kind. the concept is to send it to the governor, speaker and president pro temp of each relevant state to indicate that in light of time urgency and sworn evidence of election irregulariies presented to courts the legislators shou

trump they would throw in their lot with donald trump. well, that didn't happen. and it didn't happen because we have lifetime appointments. they don't have to run for office. they don't have to worry about being appointed again. their only concern is upholding the constitution and our constitutional form of government. they all risen to that occasion. >> yes, the president also alluded to this factual fight and republicans trying to change the history. take a look. >> my fellow americans, the tragedy that day deserves the truth above all else. we can't allow history to be rewritten. we can't allow the heroism of these officers to be forgotten. we have to understand what happened, the honest and unvarnished truth. we have to face it. >> professor, what about that? >> it is important that we have to face this truth and the steps the president is taken to acknowledge what happened on january 6th by commemorating the work of the capitol police and metropolitan police. it is important for us to understand that when we talk about the court, we

it came from donald trump. he's the one who demanded that state election officials, quote, find enough votes to change the results in states that he lost. he's the one who pushed the justice department to question the election results. he's the one who told the big lie over and over and over again. and as we have been documenting over the last several months, republicans are legislating off that lie. disenfranchising voters as punishment for making their voices heard. the constant disinformation has infected and degraded every single republican and millions of regular unaffiliated americans too. it's seeping into all aspects of our lives. when i tweeted that we would be talking about this, some of you asked, why would we cover the lies and rantings of unhinged conspiracy theorists? here is why. because it's killing americans and it's wrecking our democracy, yours as much as everyone else's. the election lies, the covid lies, the economic lies. the lies hurt us as a nation. they weaken us and divide us more effe

for him, telling everyone donald trump succumbed and defeated. as bullies often do, the way that donald trump succumbed to him, it was important for him to stay out of the light. he made the deal with the taliban but left it with somebody else to clean up and own the withdrawal. president biden argues the truth is this is past times. the focus is getting it done and addressing, getting it done while making sure to tell washington he's got this. i am joined now by michelle goldberg, a columnist at "the new york times" and josh marshal, his piece this week is "the fall of kabul, washington and the guys at the fancy magazines." welcome both of you. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> josh, your quoted in "the lead" tonight not because you happen to be here but because some of what you pointed out happens to be clear evidence of where this thing went in washington for years and the kind of catch up that some are having to do. the narraters do seem a little out of touch with where the public is, that's a factual statement and an analytical one. walk us thr

the buck stopped with donald trump. the buck stopped somewhere else, but the fact is, this is a major american defeat. it's going to have huge consequences, as you pointed out earlier, it's going to embolden the chinese, whether it's in taiwan or the south china sea or, frankly, they are going to become allies of the taliban because they want the minerals in which northern afghanistan is enormously rich. and they are going to be quite happy. they don't care what the taliban does to women. they just want the minerals. >> sean: as recently as last thursday, dan hoffman, you worked all these years in the intelligence community, they were telling us, oh, they wouldn't make it to kabul for another 90 days at least. on every level, how could they have been so wrong? how could joe biden just a couple of weeks ago be saying, oh, it will never happen. the taliban will never be able to get back in power, and yet, now it is, what, you know, the emirates of afghanistan, here we go? islamic emirates of afghanistan? >> aspirational,