what >> jehovah's suspects. >> seth: okay, jehovah's suspects [ laughter ] >> yeah, yeah. that was when i was 15 years old. i was living in lexington, kentucky. and my best friend at the time was a fella named james brown. >> seth: okay. >> not the james brown >> seth: right [ laughter ] no parent would let their kid be friends with the james brown at 15. >> i mean, you know -- yeah, you're probably right. yeah, him and some buddies, him, we got together, and we learned -- what did we -- we learned like, "gimme three steps" by lynyrd skynyrd "communication breakdown," "hey joe. and then i wrote a song. i wrote my first song at 15, yeah >> seth: what was the first song called >> it's called "the armadillo song." >> seth: "the armadillo song." >> mm-hm >> seth: and when you first presented it to the rest of your band mates, were they taken with it >> they were stoked because it's mostly just one chord, so -- >> seth: okay, gotcha. >> and it wasn't too fast, so it wasn't hard to play. but, yeah, it was kind of miraculous i don't think they had anticipated an original song >>

since as a jehovah's witness, she wasn't allowed to. so then you filed for divorce. >> i filed for divorce. >> accommodating to the end. >> to the end. >> and now, the police were calling. >> and i told them i'd be more than happy to talk to them. >> if they come up to nebraska. >> i said if you've got about six hours, you can be here to talk to me. >> nebraska? jerry had moved far away. which cleared him for sure. of course, they would need to look at shannon and aaron, too, given their falling out with pam and ralph. but -- >> they were cleared almost immediately, because -- >> they were nowhere around? >> yeah, they were not involved. >> dead-end. the crime scene people did find some things, mind you, including a bloody fireplace poker that turned out to be the murder weapon. >> the marking on her head was the exact replica of the shape of the fire poker, the end of the poker. >> they cataloged everything they found. broken glass in the backdoor. they even took the knobs off drawers and sent them to the lab hoping the intruders left

couple who was a nice as he unit commander, as well as 13 year old jehovah and 10 year old here of de la claims that he'd been able to escape before the battle began. the receipts when they heard the go, the where are we? i think that if these are mostly cool or someone told us that my father join there, so it's believable. i can believe it never been. this must be his name. william said smell in my room. so i mean i'm up in july and what does that mean? that a lesson and i'm going now push me on some of the other side of the brain to nothing the ah, the hello the who make no, certainly no borders and the number t's as emerge. we don't have authority. we don't, the whole world needs to take action and be ready. people are judge governors crisis, we can do better, we should be better. everyone is contributing each of their own way. but we also know that this crisis will not go on forever. the challenge is paid for the response has been massive. so many good people are helping us. it makes us feel very proud that we need together in ah, will be, come with me seeking the best rights for

don't shift and i go to jehovah. so we'll go with fulton, duma, canada tongue, a job growing. familiar with so many in the time in just a while, you home and use that you way. you're sure you now dollar fun chunk. so you the horse when you got time like sure we had to hold you know, i mean i know why oh why i told you i can only be my ah ah. ready ready ready oh, do you hi trial. i saw her around shot. that's what he was on, tim. so i don't know what he's he's about. yes. hey. yeah. time you lose your me who i don't think about off the hydra with cumulative. john, you too much. she's gotten the new tongue about 9 or into 10 to more go be some good. me what some cindy actually ah, what hand on i mentioned to me. the nation that issue i in o. this isn't my story. it's the story of my friend jesus. she told us that she didn't want to be here. she didn't want to live anymore, was too hard. a survivor dedicates her life to educating and saving others from suicide. we are the ones that are dying, where the ones that are lo

time going to show you don't have to all the rest of the pilots come to get hired on ships and i go to jehovah. so we'll go with fulton, duma, canada tongue, a job growing with so many so many in the time when i was just while you probably on the use that you what you're going to do now dollar fun chung. so shoot a ball. got through tom la. sure. we just had the 2 whole thank you. i mean, i know why i could go on go on hardy, why i told you i can only be my ah ah. ready ready ready oh yeah. do you high try and i saw your shot that choice wasn't in the yeah, i know joe, what he's going to go the me who in the work order we don't think about off the high general with jim dealing with john you to me and she's gotten a new tongue about now your interest in the more go be those are some good. me to actually me. ah, so we'll have to $1010.00 emission to the nation or issue i in o. that light emitted from history kept alive only in the family. tales of those justifying, had to release for people who didn't seem to these damaging story. as the polish women and children who endured the siberian refuge

i don't want to go to the pilots engine come to the higher ship and i go to jehovah. so why not go for pin duma, canada tongue and job growing was a 1000000 sure went to the woman to so many in the time in my tissue. will you put me on the use that you what you now dollar fun chunk. so shoot the ball. got tom le sure. we just had the 2 whole. yeah. you know, i mean i know why i could go on go hide young. why i told you i can only be my ah ah. ready ready ready oh, i don't i do you hi trial. i saw her around shot. that's what you want him to be sure. i know joe, what he's going time you lose me who we don't think about off the high general with john you to me and she gotten the new tongue about 9 or into 10 to more go be some good me what some cindy to actually me ah, what $10.00 emission to me the nation are issued for i in o the taliban has reclaimed. but us withdraw began news earlier in 2013 and 14 witness follow the unit of the afghan national army as they commenced the onerous part of confronting with taliban without naples support of a trail of young men fightin

going to show that you don't have to all the pilots in come looking at hired on a ship and i go to jehovah. so we'll go tomorrow. we'll kind of your tongue and joe playing with your last your so many a time in just while you pullman the use that you what you say to you now dollar fun chung. so shoot a ball. got com la. sure. just hand the to whole. thank you. i mean i know why little hard. yeah. why i told you i can only be my ah ah. ready ready on the phone, i do hi trial. i saw her around shot at toys, the horse on gym. so i wanted join go. hey angela. all you know the me who i don't they just bought off the me hi general with cumulative that john you're to me and she got no new tongue. about 9 or 10. the more go be it. those are some good me to actually me ah, to 1010 dollar emission to ah, the nation or? yes you got yourself i in o the taliban has reclaims, i've done is done. but us withdraw began news earlier in 2013 and 14 witness follow the unit of the afghan national army as they commenced the onerous part of confronting with taliban without making support of a trail of young men f

don't ship and i go to jehovah. so why not go with the pin duma, canada tongue, a job growing, familiar with so many times in my church, will you come home and use that you what you'll do now? dollar fun turn. so shoot a phone call. lou, tom le sure we just had the whole thank you. i mean, i know why i could little hard. yeah. why i told you i can only be my ah ah. ready ready ready oh, okay, i do hi trial. i saw her around shot. that's what you want. info. let me know what he's about. oh, hey angela. you the me who we don't think about off the hydra with cumulative. john, you too much. you've gotten the new tongue about 9 or into 10 to more go be some good. me what some cindy to actually me. ah, what hand on i mentioned to me, the nation that issue i in o. that light emitted from history kept alive only in the family. tales of those is to buy and had to believe people who didn't seem to these damaging story. as the polish women and children who endured the siberian refuge in africa, never to return again an epic or

they joined the jehovah's witnesses in the relationship. but by the her early twenties, daughter liz left the church. she rushed into a marriage. a bad one. >> he was involved in heavy? drugs >> yes. >> that was the end of? it >> that was it. i did not want to live that kind of life. >> but her parents marriage just kept going through sickness and health. in fact, in recent years, was jaime looking younger than ever on a vegetarian diet and he was on the exercise regiment. >> he just wanted to make sure that he was in good physical shape. >> your mother had a cluster of problems? >> yes. >> lupus, chemotherapy got involved too? >> she also had a beloved sea. >> did you ever have seizures? >> yes she did. >> then december 2012 world around. their 32nd anniversary. sandra was ill on the actual day, so they went out to get ten days later, on december 22nd. >> she was finally feeling better to go have dinner. >> the next day, the 23rd, the marissa's family would join them to have a late lunch. >> on the way there i remember texting him. >> text

stand to do what god wanted them to do and what was expected of them and to obey and honor the lord god jehovah. host: and i say they refused to bow down to culture and rather go to a fiery furnace rather than the conviction like you did. there was no fiery furnace. >> they also said our god can deliver but if he doesn't we will still obey him. we go to the courts and if we win, great. if not we will do our best. host: at a personal level you talked about the cake shop over the years brought you and your father closer together because you said when you were young, you are not really close with heaven there was a distance. but they cake shop but you closer. tell us how that happened. >> i never saw my dad we play catch in the field he had a job to do and i had friends we didn't have the opportunity to be very close but i love him and he loved me but when i opened the shop i was nervous to tellai him i was going to go into business for myself because he was a meat cutter and he hated working with the public. he said i don't hear you do for a living just don't work for the public working in a bake

to obey the lord god jehovah. host: i say this in my but they refused to bow down to culture and willing to go into a fiery furnace rather than compromise their convictions just like you did. there was no fiery furnace. >> they said our god can ildeliver but if he doesn't we will still obey him and we go to the courts and if we win, if not we will do our best. host: you o talk about the cake shop over the years but you and your father closer together that you are not that close as you are younger but about you closer. tell us how that happened. >> we used to play catch on the field he had a job to do and i had friends. and then i was nervous to tell him i would go into business for myself. he was a meat cutter and hated working with the public. he said i don't care what you do for a living just at work with the public so in the bakery them in the back it's fine now it's time to open my own cake shop how will i tell dad? and then said that's great. when? where? and then c came in the very first day and every day si

all right, janet, thanks for that jehovah in london. let's head over to greece now to athens, where john's roughness is lie for us. and where protest is, according for rapid assign to improvements for the thousands of afghans already in greece. john, tell us more about said the protest. this demands that the, well, the key demands by the protesters who will ask members of the greek after community . many of them asylum fee is for the government to speed up the process of approval as afghan asylum application. but also to facilitate the exit and the transfer of asylum africans who are still in the canister. and who wished to come to europe in order to escape the rule of the taliban either because the people who work with allied forces enough for other reasons, they're extremely worried about their relatives. that's the key tomorrow they don't hold out. hope of the taliban take over the road. they can, that's a done deal. what cation of european leaders and how they're likely to respond to this kind of demote well, one example is the way

thanks for that to jehovah in london. well, as well, watch the fall of afghanistan to the taliban at the white house. president joe biden is confronting the biggest crisis of his presidency in his 1st address after the taliban seas couple biden defended his decision to pull out troops and blamed the african government and the military for the crisis from washington as she returns he. joe biden attempted to keep public opinion focused on a promise kept up to 20 years. the u. s. was finally leaving f honest on i stand squarely behind my decision. after 20 years, i've learned the hard way that there was never a good time withdraw. us forces but neither the president or any administration official has been able to address the chaotic matter of that withdrawal. despite biden's proclamation that the buck stopped with him, he lashed out both of the africa military and the african political leadership that fled even saying the u. s a wanted to evacuate more people earlier, but was stopped by couple. i know there are concerns abou

do, what they knew was expected from them from the law in israel and to obey and honor the lord god jehovah. >> and i say in my book, they refused to bow down to culture basically is what they were doing. >> right. >> they were willing to go into a fiery furnace rather than compromise their conviction like you did. there was no fiery furnace. >> and our god is able to deliver us, but if he doesn't, still, we'll obey him and we're going through the courts, if we win great. if not, we're still going to do our best to obey. >> and you talk about, also, just in a personal-- on a personal level, you talk about how the cake shop over the years brought you and your father closer together because i think you said that when you were young, you weren't really that close with him and there was kind of a distance and, but the cake shop really brought you closer. tell us how that happened. >> well, i never saw my dad, he never came to baseball games, i didn't play baseball anyway, but we would play catch in the field and fishing. and he had a job to do and i had friends and we didn't have an opportunity

willing to do what god wanted them to do what was expected of them are bait and honor the lord god jehovah. >> i say this in my book, they refused to bow down to culture, basically is what they were doing they were going to go into a fiery furnace rather optimize their conviction just like you did. there was no fiery furnace. >> no but they also set our god is able to deliver us but if he doesn't, we will still obey him we are going to the courts and if we went, great. if not, we are still going to do our best to obey him. >> you talk about in a personal level, you talk about how the cake shop over the years you and your father closer together because when you were young, you want really that close with him and there was kind of a distance but the cake shop brought you close, tell us how that happened. >> it wasn't a distance like i never saw my god, he never came to baseball games, i didn't play baseball but would like catch in the field would take me fishing and i had friends so we just didn't have the opportunity to get really close but i left my dad and he loves me but when we opened t

to do and they knew what was expected of them from the law of israel to obey, and honor the lord god jehovah. >> i said this in my book, they refused to bow down to culture basically. that's basically what they were doing. and they were willing to go into a fiery furnace rather than compromise their convictions just like you did. there is no fiery furnace. >> we also set our god is able to deliver us. but if he doesn't we are going great if not were still going to do our best to obey him. >> you talk about also on a personal level you talk about how the cake shop over the years and brought you and your father closer together. i think you said when you were young you are not really that close with them and there was a distance. but the cake shop really brought you closer. tell us how that happened. >> seems like i never saw my dad, he never came to baseball games but didn't play baseball anyway. he would take me fishing. he had a job to do, i had friends we just did not have an opportunity to be really close. but i love my got a great deal and he loved me. will be open the shop i was nervous

she says that jehovah witnesses have declined blood transfusions because it's against their religion. frank as a smith live for us tonight, azenith smith. thank you. sonoma county is joining others and requiring many public workers to be vaccinated for the coronavirus. the county issued a health order today calling on all fire law enforcement. emergency medical service workers and others to prove their vaccination status if proof of vaccination cannot be given, workers will be required to undergo weekly coronavirus testing. the new mandate is set to take effect on september 1st san francisco is requiring all 35,000 city employees be vaccinated once the cove. vaccine gets permanent approval from the fda most already have been vaccinated. however the chronicle has learned at least 2700 employees have not including workers in the public health department employees who refuse and don't get a medical or religious exemption could be fired. so the employees will have 10 weeks after a vaccine has improved by the fda to get their shots coming up the first debate before the california recall el

them to do what they knew was expected of them from the law in and to elevate an honor the lord god jehovah. it. >> they basically i say this in my book, they refused to bow down to culture basically. and what they were doing they were willing to go through fiery furnace rather than compromise their convictions just like you did read there was no fiery furnace but basically - >> they also set our god is able to deliver but if he does not, we will still obey. and we are going through the course and if we win, great and if not, were still going to do our best to obey. >> and you also talk about just in a personal level, you talk about how cake shop for the year front you and your father closer together because the thing that you said when you are young, you are not really that close with him there was kind of a distance but can shop really bright close tell us how that happened. >> i can never summa dead vicki never came to baseball games rated but inflate based on the way but we played catch on the field and would take me fishing video to drop the deal and we just didn't have the opportunity