does policy balance into really trying to make sure that we have a society that is characterized by or norstar by this notion of equal rights and mutual benefit where everyone can succeed and realize their potential by contributing in society. in a lot of ways this has gone back to -- the whole point of a social theory or classical liberalism or the rants of those of human progress is to discover how people can live well together. it's a holistic vision of the good society and public policies of critical component of that. it's not that you don't focus on policy. you do and of course we do a lot of work to help pass policies that can empower people but if you only focus on policy is like trying to advance a good society with two hands and what blake tied behind your back. you are not taking advantage of all of what really is important towards that vision. we say alongside policy you've got to be concerned about of iran's voluntary sector and you've got to be concerned about out businesses contributing and community organizations are working and it have to be focused on are we helping people di