the republican party was trump before trump and sadly it will be trump after trump. i think it goes back to gingrich and reed. gingrich rep and while web denies in an promoting religion because you have in the trump administration you had all of these people to spin trump's worst fantasies into even worse on the ground. one of the reasons i think that's popular it was all about this appealing language like pro-life, trickle down, all of these rhetorical reflect the realities. that provision is not just practices to debate we need to have for the government. >> okay and, mr. wolf? i don't disagree with the caller. i would however say donald trump prevents a further separate problem as one might have at the republican party. the separate problem to my mind is he is crazy somehow we managed to elect the president who operate in an altogether separate reality. not just from democrats but often from republicans. and i'm not sure we have quite come to grips with the meaning of this. of how a crazy man could become the president of the united states. exercise such a hole ov

it's going to be donald trump's party and it's going to be whoever donald trump decides to bring along with them. and i'll say this because people like to call trump supporters my unless that is as long as donald trump states about stays true to the values that got him where he is. and the reason there was so much tumult once he was elected is because he came in and shut things up and did it to them. the way, the sort of almost one party system that we've seen over the last couple of decades emerge where democrats and republicans were practically indistinguishable. what problem is they're not interested, real republicans are not interested in having that kind of leader represent them. they want leaders that are out there, you know, setting it on fire like, you know, saying things that, that bring us together. thing, things that dismantle the swamp, those what kind of things donald trump did, and others like matt gates, others like rod to santa. and that's, you can, you can honestly tell who the most successful, most beloved. and the most feared republicans are by looking at who the dem

i mean, they viewed attacks on trump, criticism at trump on them. it didn't dissuade them or anything like that. just reinforced their support for trump in the end. >> okay. i just thought those portraits, he reminded me of a number of people i know and members of my family and how they also have related to trump so i thought it was wonderful. i also felt that so many of them at the front row joes, i'm going to change the subject in a second, i thought the most important thing was that as you painted so many of them were not really deeply enmeshed with life, with local organizations and local groups and churches and family. they weren't fully integrated in a way into life. they had a lot of time on their hands. they had the money to spend, go off on china for a day. but also somehow when trump-kim on the stage and 2015 they found a home. they found a central organizing principle. >> yeah. >> and and i just seen that s. all right, here i'm going to jump around a little bit. here is a question that will require a guess on your part based on your long-

trump -- little trump fan and a never-trumper. [laughter] >> all right, i'm taking a look at these questions here. let's see. could noo nan make her questions more succinct. exclamation point there. >> great questions. it's been really fun. thank you so much. >> some -- let me ask, somebody asked about trump -- donald trump got 74 million votes in 2020. do you think that is the high watermark for djt based on what a disaster his 2020 campaign was, shouldn't those in the biden camp, among the left be secretly wishing for donald trump to run again? do you have an opinion on that? >> i don't -- it's a good question. the -- i think democrats will have their own issues and have their own issues to be one way or the other for what happens in the republican party, but everyone was shocked by the 75 million votes that trump had. trump's own campaign predicted 63 million. that's a huge -- 15%, that's a huge miss overperformance or however you want to look at it. it actually mystifies me like this is a little bit off script and might be out

trump 2024. i'm joined by my guess, jen kerns and new york sheets. host of all american radio, with jennifer kerns, also new york. we have david fisher, he is author of the book, the executive order, as well as the ghostwriter for donald trump. 2016 campaign book crippled america. and in west palm beach, we cross to gina loud, and she is like psychology expert and a long time trump advisor, hard cross talk, rules and effects. that means you can jump any time you want. and i always appreciated, david, let me go to you 1st here. let's start from the basics here. what is the identity of the republican party as we speak right now? and is donald trump a reflection of that party? go ahead david. well, i think it's a party in search of an identity. you know, already here it's become known as call 45 where the, where, so many millions of people sort of mindlessly follow whatever. trump says of, you know, the question becomes, are there enough of those people just swing national election and we don't know

he was sued by don trump in 2006, and he of course one and quest donald trump in court. tim, there is such an interesting thing here going back to colonel vindman who appeared in the previous hour with ali velshi. you remember in the ukraine situation, donald trump was on the phone simply trying to get them to say that they were having an investigation on joe biden in the ukraine, they didn't have to have the investigation. he just wanted them to say they were having investigation. that is an echo of what we are seeing in the department of justice notes. just say you are with the department of justice, just say there was something wrong with the election. that's all you have to do. you don't actually have to do the work and find anything wrong with the election. >> that's actually also happening in a theatrically grotesque way and al arizonian. we have this sham recount going on and republican officials from pennsylvania and wisconsin have visited arizona to watch that process, lawrence. i think they don't really care if at the end of the day they find evidence of wrongd

that donald trump posed. obviously trump was on first president to be accused of excessive use of the president's power. some of trump's predecessors characteristic excesses released alleged excesses such as unilateral uses of force and aggressive ways or unilateral extensions of the administrative power, these were not the kind of where is my boss is bush did, disregarding laws in the name of article to power presidential power, these are not trump's characteristic views. truce abuses i had to summarize them, were the following. he basically merged the institutional presidency, the office of the presidency the public office, with his personal interests in a way that had never been done by the president and in a way to basically cover the landscape in every form of corruption. just to give you some examples, these are examples remembering from the truck presidency, nondisclosing's taxes nondisclosing his finances, these are all things the presence had done going back to the 70s. in a really great his wife mix

we always had a feeling that trump would not do that. so we put it out there, as did michael cohen. >> lincoln, what do you worry about now moving forward? >> i worry that not much has changed. in 2018, 2019 jerry and i would ask people if donald trump loses, can you imagine him conceding gracefully? can you imagine saying, this was a hard-fought campaign and now -- i couldn't imagine that happening. and the same thing in 2024, can you imagine donald trump who if he runs will be the republican nominee or any other trump-like republican who would be the nominee if he doesn't run, losing to joe biden, kamala harris, or someone else and not doing exactly what trump has done? the seeds within the constituentsy of the republican party that a defeat of a republican is due to election fraud, those seeds have grown more, not less since 2019. so i don't think much has changed. i would agree with everything jerry said except i wouldn't put so much of in the past tense. this time we have no excuse for not recognizing it in advance. >> you guys pred

and trump didn't really. trump had the republican voter in a way that cuomo doesn't. i mean he's popular but he's not deeply popular. and his politics, let's face it, are much more about the early '90s than they are about the early 2020s. so i think his trajectory in terms of the relationship with voters is going in a different direction. and so there isn't the same sort of popular appeal that cuomo has. all of his appeal is transactional. and again, that's one of those situations where it really is when you come for the king because it's really a question of the king has the purse strings in this situation and really has a lot of transactional relationships that he's leveraged in the past at least and he's going to try now. >> right. but we've seen -- i mean i totally agree with those differences. what we've seen there have been other -- there's been moments with cuomo. again, i want to say inciting an insurrection against the u.s. government is to me a more grave offense particularly in a historical sense which is not at all to minimize what cuomo is found to have d

clark met with trump, he schemed with trump, and he drafted the document i talked about. it's this letter. it's still letter that the georgia governor and a drafted for rosen and donahue to sign, officially from the u.s. department of justice. it says in part, the department of justice is investigating various irregularities in the 2020 election for the president of the united states. at this time, we have identified significant concerns that may have impacted the outcome of the election in multiple states, including georgia. while the department of justice agrees the governor of georgia should immediately call a special session to consider this important and urgent matter, if he declines to do that, we share with you our view that the georgia general assembly has implied authority under the constitution of the united states to call itself into special session for the limited purpose of considering issues pertaining to the appointment of a presidential elector. basically, clark and trump teaming up, spell out what they want. they want the acting attorney general and his d

this guy said trump was bad, then he was for trump. he was against extreme court justices being appointed during an election year. he changed his mind with trump was in power. no one cares about what lindsey graham says anymore. i think biden is doing the right thing. he had the backbone to make a decision and stand by it. so many soldiers, killed. innocent people, killed. millions of dollars, we could have done in this country. we have a broken health care system, middle class is struggling to survive, we have broken infrastructure. $2 trillion, how men were trillions are we going to spend and how many precious american lives are we going to lose? america has never gone through a war in the muslim world and met success. every time it was a failure. you cannot do the impossible. you can introduce nations to democracy for the next 1000 years. biden did the right thing. we have got to live with it. next you will be a better year. -- year will be a better year. host: what you think the future poles for u.s. diplomatic -- polls for the u.s

yeah, they'd ask them about trump. they'd ask them, you know, they'd ask them if there's any resources we can exploit on their planet. and jeff bezos would ask when he can get a trip to where they're at it just be, it would be an interesting corresponded gram. i think they'd be us yet. why would day? why would i would stay stay, stay clear. ok. you know, you, graham, you know, one of the things that, you know, there's all this talk about gain of function and all of this, with the, with the, with the facts and with the coven. but, you know, you know, these phrases sometimes i think you can take advantage of because, you know, when i watch mainstream media it's, it's called, gain a stupidity. this is what they're doing. it's gain of stupidity night after night after night. ok. and it is, i find it really, really exhausting, and i have to really temper myself. i have to watch its little bits a bit of time because it really can drive you insane. dana gave peyton, if you want to use it, take it dana stupidity. what do you t

military were responding to trump. you say that joint chiefs of staff general mark milley was so afraid that trump would attempt a coup that he and other top officials discussed a plan to resign one by one rather than carry out orders from trump that they consider to be illegal. could you elaborate on that further? carol: you know, this was a very frightening moment for us to learn as well. remember, we were covering this administration in real time. we thought we did a good job in the first draft of history for "the washington post," then we excavated this time and found out there was a lot more fear within the pentagon, and at the highest level -- these ripple -- were people that had been to combat and they were quite worried about what donald trump might do. as chairman millie told confidantes and colleagues, he became convinced that president trump was trying to get his hands on the so-called guys with the guns, the agencies like the fbi, the cia, and the defense department, and military leaders he worked with, the

. >>> today was a bad did for donald trump and trump republicans because today america got to see the contrast, american voters got to see what happened when republican senators ignored trump's primal screams to follow his orders and join with democrats to give president biden the big bipartisan infrastructure deal that donald trump failed to get. and it happened at literally the same time the democrats showed that they're willing to hold their own accountable, something with which republicans struggle or don't actually struggle with it. today new york democratic governor andrew cuomo resigned one week after the state attorney general's office released a report accusing him of sexually harassing 11 women. >> i have been too familiar with people. my sense of humor can be insensitive and off putting. i do hug and kiss people casually. women and men. i have done it all my life. it's who i've been since i can remember. the best way i can help now is if i step aside and let government get back to governing, and therefore, that's what i'll do. >> the reality is that cuomo had no option but

trump won. he says that president biden and vice president harris will go along as well. they will not recognize, but graciously accept the proof that the pillow guy will reveal. this is all a big misunderstanding. the election absolutely went the other way. he says vice president harris and president biden will be sorry and leave office and welcome back in the real president and emperor trump who will reunite the country because mike lindell has the proof that trump won. mr. lindell is the personal source of the claim that former donald trump repeats to others that lindell is the source of the claim that trump will be reinstated as president this month in august of 2021. that prediction that trump will be reistated led to the homeland security briefing sent to police around the country this week warning of a renewed potential for political violence in our country. by trump supporters who are expecting trump to be reinstated in august because the pillow guy company says it is true. therefore why

we heard trump with the birth certificate nonsense. here we want to make sure that we are not doing anything that would further create a barrier for residents. >> i'm not sure what she's talking about. doesn't sound like she was, either. there is already a lot of vaccine hesitancy in communities of color. the last thing we need is rhetoric that could turn people away from vaccines. federal judge in d.c. ruled today a couple who stormed the capitol on january 6th carrying anti vaccination signs will be sentenced to home confinement. they're sentenced to quarantine. [ laughter ] okay. that brings us to the man who said this before the rioters stormed the capitol. >> today is the day american patriots start taking down names and kicking ass. >> oh my gosh. who are these people listening to and why? where are they getting their information? are they even getting information? is it just political rhetoric or are they just that dull? now congressman mo brooks is fighting a lawsuit by eric swalwell that accused brooks as well as the then pres

>> a few days before trump. was inaugurated, there is a meeting in the executive office building with essentially a promise cabinet in all of trump information cabinet it's a tradition got started i think a couple of administrations before and went through various catastrophic events to try to prepare the new cabinet how to respond so one i think is an active shooter in the college campus, one is like a tornado or hurricane and the thirdd was a respiratory, a flu. someone shared with me a photograph with everybody in the room at the table, mike flynn, mattis, all of these people, mick mulvaney and what was striking about it, almost all of them were gone when the pandemic came. so many -- the health secretary lasted like a year, so many of the people -- i don't even know if they were paying attention during the briefing but so many people in the obama administration tried to help were gone by the beginning of your for when the pandemic happened so they never even had the playbook even the trump throughout the pla

but you -- you compared it to trump. but with trump, he -- he didn't have -- he had the majority of the people who could save him, right? the democrats didn't have the votes. with the governor, aren't the calls coming from inside the house that are saying, hey, brother, you got to go? so -- >> that's right. that's right. >> him hanging on like, you know, sort of trump-like fashion. is that even possible? >> but you know what? here's -- here's another scenario and this is not quite trump like but andrew cuomo. the governor, generally, thinks that the state legislature, the members of the state legislature are not very competent. he doesn't have a lot of regard for them. he -- he has respect for some of them but generally, he -- he realizes that they can screw things up easily. especially, since we haven't had an impeachment since 1913. nobody living knows how this is supposed to go. and so, if they make a misstep, along the way, andrew cuomo, who is former attorney general and, you know, a pretty good lawyer, himself, wil

and so now all nine of these trump lawyers are facing potential disbarment. let me read to you a little bit from the ruling. you'll see what i mean about it being very readable and kind of riveting. this lawsuit represents a historic and profound use of the judicial process, meaning the lawsuit to force michigan to give its electoral college votes to trump even though biden won. the question now before the court is whether plaintiffs' attorneys engaged in litigation practices that are abusive and in turn sanctionable. the short answer is yes. individuals may have a right within certain bounds to disseminate allegations of fraud that are unsupported by law or fact in the public sphere. but attorneys cannot exploit their privilege and access to the judicial process to do the same. and when an attorney has done so, sanctions are in order. attorneys have an obligation to the judiciary, to their profession, and to the public to conduct some degree of due diligence before presenting allegations as truth. they have an obligation to advance only tenable claims. the a

of trump's is arrested. the only possibly interesting thing, now, is what for? "regicide. i didn't see that coming." the white house reportedly held high-level discussions recently with fox news over its coronavirus vaccine coverage yeah, well, good luck with that. you might be able to talk some sense into fox and friends or bret baier but once fox news after dark starts, it's the wild west tucker carlson will tell you the vaccines are dangerous while getting the vaccine. the pentagon's inspector general announced plans, this week, to review procedures to keep the so-called nuclear football secure during a crisis in the event that it is lost or stolen, or ends up in the wrong mouth. "major, drop it! it's not a toy i'll talk to him i'll talk to him." [ light laughter ] a bipartisan group of senators working on finalizing the infrastructure framework reportedly met, last night, over tacos and wine and i'm not sure there's a better metaphor for the state of bipartisanship in washington than having wine with you

he is calling trump. trump, of course, hasn't done it. what do you say to senator graham? >> where has he been for the last 18 months? for the last i can't months since the vaccine has been released. you know, senator graham has been v been very effective adviser and enabler and golf caddie for the former president. but he has not wanted to run foul of him. which is why you haven't heard him vigorously urging americans or south carolinians to become vaccinated despite the fact that almost 10,000 people in his state have died from this terrible pandemic. thank you, senator, for saying what was so painfully obvious. >> dr. rheiner, thank you very much. >> sure. my pleasure. >>> and next, trump's die hard supporters may soon have a few way to show their devotion to the former president. an actual loyally card. and breaking news, chuck schumer announces the senate will vote on biden's massive infrastructure bill tonight. we will go to capitol hill for the latest on this breaking story. remember it's a business r not a costume party. on a spotty network this is what she heard..

synonymous with trump at this stage. go ahead. gina. actually the situation with donald trump is that he is the leader of the republican party. any other leaders don't exist to de donald trump says i don't care for them much anymore because people have come to love him, not because they're blind followers, but because you compare today's economy and so the bite and border crisis and the total disaster he's made out of operation warp speed, which donald trump created to, versus what donald trump gave america, he earned the respect and the support and more votes than any other president ever in history. he earned loyalty even beyond that. now his rallies are getting bigger . now smaller, you'll never see a joe biden rally, show me one. there is no such thing. so whatever donald trump decides to do, as long as he's still a spouse's, the same values, lower taxes, less regulation, more freedom for americans, family values. those are the kinds of things that are going to continue to make him the leader. and really the king mak

and what happened with the trump administration is, that was more a fight between the trump administration and the state of california, over the question of who has the right to set vehicle a mission standards. ultimately, automakers were split, some sided with the trump administration, some sided with the stated california. now they're on the same page. that should be better for the industry. they want one standard, they do not want one patchwork of standards. they will probably go with a california federal standard together. >> i've covered this area, quite a bit, over the years and it seems to me that in the last year or two, some switch has turned on the electric car front in terms of the big automakers. >> yeah. >> they are doing it now. is that a fair characterization? >> yeah. >> and what happened to get them there? >> well, i think they finally realize that the market is not just a possibility. that it actually is there. again, for that, you can thank tesla. hats off to tesla for showing the united states, and really showing the world there are a lot of people who want to drive ele

so look, a trump is stronger than ever. it's donald trump's republican party. if he wants to run for president 2024, he gets the nomination. i think he's running against the devastated democratic party today in washington. the moderate democrats are running away from the party. so it's donald trump world and we're just bouncing through it and he absolutely enjoys it. well, to that point, david democrats on power lot easier to play defense defense office. and in this case, democrats empower or their action is actually helping to reignite some of the same fire, which people believe to help get trump elected back in 2016 when you're looking at how the economy is doing, how do our national security. and obviously the recent events and i can't stand well, ed can turn a phrase to. but i think that the reality is that by this doing actually quite well. and i think this is requiring him to stay in the middle. and i think as long as he stays in the center, he'll do very well and he'll be re elected because trump will always have that base lloyd be out on the fringe. you

as far as trump goes, he had a deal made. we did not get attacked by the taliban the last six months in office. the whole world is laughing at biden. our so-called allies, they know what he is. this guy shouldn't even be in office. there is something wrong with him. it looks like he lost his way to the white house. he cannot think. that is what the problem is with this country. he is the biggest racist at all. if you are black, you can't be a racist is that right? host: steve in florida, independent. caller: good to talk to you. if you look at the problem, there is ignorance on both sides other has been ignorance for over 50 years. we haven't understood from the historical point of view -- like in the crusades. people don't understand the crusades. that was a focus of islam taking over all of europe. we don't understand the degree of what the islam religion means. it means submission and it means submission by force.

and switched trump votes to biden. lindell is now facing a $1.3 billion defamation suit from the voting machine company dominion which he has falsely accused of being involved in voter fraud. more tonight from cnn's drew griffin. >> the my pillow guy. >> reporter: mike lindell, yes, the my pillow guy, is convinced china hacked the election, donald trump really won, and lindell has the absolute proof. >> they did it in all the states. >> they changed the votes? >> every single state. >> and you have the proof? >> yes. i have -- >> that will show the actual exchange of votes? >> 100%. 100%. >> reporter: it is of course complete nonsense, despite every piece of so-called evidence lindell has presented so far. three videos, a lawsuit, screenshots he sent to cnn, there's still no proof that the election was hacked and that's according to two dozen cyber experts and election officials contacted by cnn. >> 100% evidence. >> reporter: when lindell released his so-called evidence, in videos like this, fact checkers quickly foun

not president trump. at this present, i had this to say regarding the refugees one screened and cleared. we will welcome as can, who helped us in the war effort to their new home the united states of america. because that is who we are. that is what america is. now for those refugees, i am actually a little bit confused. as kids today are going back to school with amanda, wearing masks, social distancing, and even vaccines being placed on students, all this fall, thousands of refugees have come from afghanistan to america without much knowledge of their present health. and we don't even know the conditions they will be housed in and the medicare current medical care given. once they land. it is anything like how this ministration is handling the immigration issue at the southern border. america could be on the verge of another health and national security crisis sets in our own backyard. but one man who did make it out of afghanistan is x per se. bert, i'm sorry, no, sorry. and he joins us now to give his

among her guests donald trump's niece, mary trump. and i'll see you again right here at 10:00 a.m. this sunday. "all in" with chris hayes starts right now. >>> tonight on "all in," donald trump's coup came closer to succeeding than we ever knew. tonight the smoking gun document that could have up ended democracy as we know it and the doj official who tried to help trump steal the election. >>> then where's this accused proud boy insurrectionists getting his sudden wind fall of cash that could spring him from jail and the growing voices of covid redpret. >> it is a horrific way to leave this world. i don't wish it on anyone else. we have the answer. let's use it. >> as a governor facing a rise in cases admits his anti-masking law is hurting his state. >> our cases were at a low point. everything has changed now. and yes, in hindsight i wish that had not become law. >> when "all in" starts right now. >>> good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. the coup came closer to succeeding than we ever knew. and we know that donald trump plotted with his associates to overturn american demo

is trump's lawyer sydney powell. you will recall the recent news as well that another high-profile lawyer, rudy giuliani, he is not a part of this case in michigan, giuliani has separately had his law license suspended in new york while he too is investigated for potential permanent disbarment, being ejected from the legal profession, because of him using the legal courts to effectuate this coup, this ability to force trump back into power. mr. giuliani and mr. powell also turn up today in what amounts to a huge, a sprawling, demand for communications and records from the national archives, for trump white house documents and seven other federal agencies about trump's efforts to defy the election results and to try to stay in power after he lost. this is the select committee investigating the january 6th attack on the capital. we now know, that committee, is taking an aggressive approach to its investigations. today, that congressman's chairman is also the home of -- he sent out sprawling demands for documents and co

government dramatically declined under president trump. and that the process actually broke the law. there's a legal requirement in terms of how quickly people need to hear, one way or the other, about their application. and it ain't almost every single case, the law was broken because that timeframe, that nine month timeframe, was exceeded. was it clear to you within the trump administration, and these discussions about these things, that this was a deliberate thing? that there wasn't just something that had slowed down and gone wrong? that there was an and purpose effort to make sure these visas would never get cleared? ke sure these visa would nei >> think it was. for those who were of us who are working on this issue. we knew that the offices were under resourced, that they were overwhelmed. that they were working at number of things. and the response would be like, there is a border crisis. and their asylum seekers. yes, these people it's, the same office that a lot of them handled the workload. and that's true. but why aren't we reso

, trump assault. so much so that a little over two weeks later, the health and human service official, who helped oversee covid vaccine development, said he was ousted from his role, after his objections, to the anti malaria drug as a treatment for covid. and then, june 2020, the fda said they no longer had reason to believe that the drug was effective against covid. , and after all of that. that embarrassing episode. imagine going on television they after, night promoting this crank cure, that turns out not to work. telling people that it's right around the corner. the good news is coming. and then just being flatly horrifyingly wrong. well people die by the thousands, imagine that, after all of that, there was still this, faith there had to be a secret cure. where is it. and of course this is what's animated one of the most infamous moments of trump's presidency's. >> supposing we hit the body, with a tremendous, whether it's ultraviolet or just very powerful light. and i think you said, that has no

it went for donald trump about 54% for trump in the 2020 election. and it's also the home of both the chairman and the vice chairman of the republican party of florida. in fact, the wife of the vice chairman is on the school board and she was one of the two votes against instituting the mask mandate. it was a 3-2 vote. it was a very narrow vote to put this policy in place. >> gary, it's been great talking to you throughout this standoff between governor desantis and these towns and schools that want the power to issue mask requirements if they deem it necessary. one of the things that's truly interesting, mask requirements around the country poll well. it's a non-controversy around the country. it polls very high mask requirements and among republicans it polling fairly well, 44% approval in one number i saw. yet, yet, there is a political advantage that clearly governor desantis sees now as republican counties start to turn against him. >> well, as we've been discussing over the last few weeks is this surge has occurred, the governor has not really