david. after retirement thousand ten, michael jordan private industry is a chief executive officer of the building information technology company headquartered in his hometown of pittsburgh, pennsylvania. in october 2017, he published his first book inside camp david the private world of the presidential retreat. mike travels often speaking about the book has been covered by the wall street journal, the today show c-span and many other print radio television outlets. after our conversation, mike will be taking questions from our live audience. please be your questions for mike and the chat we will get to as many as possible welcome to white house history live mike. >> wonderful to be here. it's an honor to serve the nation. [inaudible] >> only start from the beginning, your story with camp david. tell us about how you were selected as commander of camp david, what that process was likely. >> camp david is actually a navy command naval support facility and a town nearby. the navy has operated

david: and how they stay there. you don't feel inadequate now because you are only the second wealthiest man in the world, is that right? he is an incredible entrepreneur, a parallel entrepreneur. he starts many companies at the same time. one of those companies is moderna. a company famous for having created the vaccine that dealt with the coronavirus pandemic. i sat down in boston with him to hear about the success of moderna and what he plans to do in the future. when you came up with the idea of moderna, did you ever in your wildest dreams think it would change the world and the way it has? noubar: absolutely not. what we thought we had was the next generation of biotechnology , and something that had never been dreamt before, which is the body's own ability to make its own drugs, whatever it needed. so the notion would be, we would introduce a molecule that would code for a drug that we want, and the body would translate and make the drug that it needs. that was the basic idea, which was a fantasy at the beginn

david: and after that? chris: after that i went to harvard business school and got my mba and after that, went into consulting for a few years. david: but you spent a lot of time in the food world. before pepsi -- or after pepsi, you were at kraft. is that right? chris: that's right. david: was there something about food that appealed to you? chris: i would say i love being in consumer industries. for me, what i really find energizing is having a tangible product that i can see, touch, feel, etc. and also one that, you know, people can relate to. when i say i work at pepsi or work at kraft or i work at mcdonald's, immediately, you can have a conversation with people. the fun thing for me in my current job, no matter where i am in the world, people have an opinion about mcdonald's and want to talk to you about mcdonald's. it makes the job fun. david: you came here in what year? chris: i was here in 2015. david: ok, and then you rose up pretty quickly and became the head of america's. chris: that's right. dav

i'm david westin. this week, special contributor larry summers on whether the numbers show whether we need to be as concerned about inflation as we thought. larry: the figures this week actually looked more ominous relative to history. david: and blair effron of centerview partners on what the c-suite inks about the tax debate that's raging down in washington.

david: two final questions. one, i would like to know, what is the pleasure of being the head of the central bank? you obviously have to work seven days a week. he did that for many years in your career. what is the pleasure you get out of heading the european central bank? ms. lagarde: it is the same kind of pleasure i take in leading other organizations, making sure that other people around me are doing the best they can for the organization, delivering on their mission, and that we form a team heading in the same direction. that, to me, means an awful lot. david: my final question, you wean your youth were a synchronized swimmer, where you have to work closely with teammates and have to get everything together quite nicely. is it the case that when you do the central banking role, you have to have the same skill set? you have all these central bankers of each country that you have to get to work together. do you think your synchronized swimming skills come together to help you as the head of the european cent

david. after retirement thousand ten, michael jordan private industry is a chief executive officer of the building information technology company headquartered in his hometown of pittsburgh, pennsylvania. in october 2017, he published his first book inside camp david the private world of the presidential retreat. mike travels often speaking about the book has been covered by the wall street journal, the today show c-span and many other print radio television outlets. after our conversation, mike will be taking questions from our live audience. please be your questions for mike and the chat we will get to as many as possible welcome to white house history live mike. >> wonderful to be here. it's an honor to serve the nation. [inaudible] >> only start from the beginning, your story with camp david. tell us about how you were selected as commander of camp david, what that process was likely. >> camp david is actually a navy command naval support facility and a town nearby. the navy has operated

we will start with david. david: i think the fact that we now have people from both the left and the right engaged in the conversation is a reason to be optimistic. it makes the conversations more challenging. on the other hand, more conservative people have had more focus on civics. i would say it is a very positive sign. and people on the left worried about our democracy have entered the conversation. to me, that's the sign of optimism. the second sign is that we don't need washington or a billionaire to fix this. we can all be engaged in fixing it. i can wake up tomorrow and do something about it. to me, that is the second reason for optimism. david: i will -- hannah: i will double down on that and say at the end of the day, this is a conversation that is a good thing. if no one is talking about it, how do you create a pathway to that? that is not my issue. that is not my problem. this is everyone's opportunity. it is all of our opportunity in our home at night. and the opportunity to take kids through civi

: david:. modernamoderna --. david: public companies worry about their shareholders and now they say you should worry about stakeholders and not just shareholders. >> public or private leadership obligation of any leadership that of any leader is shareholders. i am unaware of too many shareholders that technically penalize you for doing that. i think what people do societally is invest in the license to operate and that is a very fickle license because a lot of corporations lose that license to operate. i believe that if you take the employee base, suppliers, environment, every aspect of what makes your ecosystem work. i grew up in a world where everything is nature driven. everything is based off biology. there is ecology around companies. if you lose your ecology, you lose the company. david: some say it is important for ceos to speak out in public issues like voting rights and stuff like that. do you have a view of that something public companies ceos should do or board to do or public compa

david: your frequent flyer version. chris: you got it. david: the last d is dine in. that used to be a thing that people did, but now, is it a smaller part of your business ? and do you need all the space in all of those restaurants? chris: i think it is still an important part of our business because the memory the people form from mcdonald's come from the dine in experience. but i think you are right in recognizing that it is , certainly through the pandemic a less prevalent part of the , business. i mean our view is it will come , back. i think dining and eating is such a social experience, there is always be an element of it that is in person. now how much of it comes back, , time will tell. and if at some point we need to reduce the space for dine in seating that we have in our restaurants, we can always calibrate and do that. but for now we are in a watch , and see mode. ♪ david: i assume you see people saying that food is not as healthy as they might want it to be. is that the biggest challenge? or just growing the company? chris: ray croc had a famous line t

david: do you wear a crash helmet when you are if those cars? reid: i don't. david: ok. what about flying taxis, is that in our future? reid: there is. i helped bring joby public and it has moved the transport grid from 2d to 3d, redefined cities, make commutes much less arduous, being able to live remote and coming to the cities. we are on which to science fact. david: what about space? do you invest in space related investments? reid: not as intensely as some of my friends like elon. i put some money into spacex. that is more of elon and his amazing transmission of the world. but it is officially an important area. i ended up in it sometimes just by who i know. ♪ david: let's talk about how he became an investor and entrepreneur. you were going to be an academic, and then on the road to damascus kind of epiphany, you said, i am not going to be an academic, i will be something more important, an investor. is that right? reid: it did not start with investor. it started with product creator. it was, how do we think and speak better? how do we make ourselves better as in

we will start with david. david: i think the fact that we now have people from both the left and the right engaged in the conversation is a reason to be optimistic. it makes the conversations more challenging. on the other hand, more conservative people have had more focus on civics. i would say it is a very positive sign. and people on the left worried about our democracy have entered the conversation. to me, that's the sign of optimism. the second sign is that we don't need washington or a billionaire to fix this. we can all be engaged in fixing it. i can wake up tomorrow and do something about it. to me, that is the second reason for optimism. david: i will -- hannah: i will double down on that and say at the end of the day, this is a conversation that is a good thing. if no one is talking about it, how do you create a pathway to that? that is not my issue. that is not my problem. this is everyone's opportunity. it is all of our opportunity in our home at night. and the opportunity to take kids through civi

david? david: from the donkey to the lemming i like that comment from newt. we have the text of that massive spending bill. we'll show you what's in it. aishah hasnie is on capitol hill breaking it down for us. what does it show, ashiah. reporter: david, good afternoon. let's be clear about couple things. there is a progressive wish-list. it isn't even done yet. the clock is ticking on getting this done. look at getting it together. $79 billion with a b go to the irs to strengthen tax enforcement. that means coming after you. 12 billion for electric cars, for your mailman, federal employees. 3 billion for tree equity. what the heck does that mean? panting trees in communities that need it the most. 4 billion for dance distance learning for schools. 4 billion for people minorities, defender issues and bias training. here is the thing. a lot of this has not been priced out yet. expanding medicaid, medicare, those are big-ticket items likely costing hundreds of billions of dollars. if this skyr

david: it is a global company. now the covid is not behind us, but certainly receding do you expect to travel more? >> i do expect to travel starting next month and you know between now and then that's between now and the end of the year, i have got five international trips lined up. david: when you travel internationally, are you trying to tell local franchisees to work more or do better jobs or what are you trying to do? >> there's a variety of things i'm trying to get done. when i'm out there, the biggest thing is listening. hearing what is on the mind of our franchisees, hearing what is on the minds of our people. that is one thing i'm looking at. the second is making sure that the strategies we are talking about at a corporate level, are they cascading down? a lot of time what can happen is you think you have clarity around what the strategy is what it does not end up being executed. i am looking at the connection between our strategy and is it showing up in the execution of the restaurant? i also will spend t

david: and how they stay there. you do not feel inadequate now that you are only the second wealthiest man in the world, right? when angela merkel was looking for someone to head the european central bank, she found christine lagarde. i had a conversation with her about how europe is recovering from the pandemic and the global slowdown in the economy. as we look at the post-covid environment, what would you say is the situation in europe? is europe recovering rapidly? or not as rapidly as you thought? christine: europe is recovering more rapidly than we had anticipated. as a result of that we have significantly upgraded our projections. our projections for this year have been significantly upgraded. 4.6% next year! pre-covid type of growth. this year is going faster than we thought to the point where we will have recovered yo pre-covid -- to pre-covid-19 levels. we had expected it would be early '22 at best. david: are you worried about the delta variant impacting what you have said? christine: it is very closely re

david: the u.s. is dominated by a limited number of companies -- google, facebook, apple, microsoft, netflix. i'm sure you are familiar. do you think the u.s. is dominated by too few tech companies and something should be done to weaken their power or is it ok as it is? reid: i think what we are heading to is we are going from five massive tech companies to 10. i thing we are already naturally heading in that direction. you can see it with things like netflix and salesforce and all these companies that continued to grow in strength and create a burette of -- create a br eadth of strong technology companies. when you ask investors, venture capitalists, they are like no, we are having more ability to create amazing new tech companies, so if anything we are already naturally on that trajectory. david: do you think large technology companies in china, alibaba, tencent, baidu, bytedance and so forth can have their technology become dominant in the united states and around the world, and will they continue

david: how they stay there. you don't feel inadequate now as the second wealthiest man in the world, right? when angela merkel was looking for someone new to head the european central bank, she successfully recruited christine lagarde, then the head of the international monetary fund. as the head of the central bank, christine lagarde has had an enormous impact on how the european union and global economy moves forward. i had a conversation with her on how europe is recovering from the global pandemic and the slowdown in the economy. as we now look at the post-covid environment, but would you say is the situation in europe? is europe recovering more rapidly, or not quite as rapidly as you thought from the covid pandemic? ms. lagarde: europe is recovering more rapidly than we had anticipated, and we have as a result of that, significantly upgraded our projections. our projection for this year is +5%, a significant upgrade. +4.6% next year. back to sort of pre-covid growth for the country. . but this year is certa

david: you can say the name. chris: i went to duke. david: we shared that. chris: yep. david: after you graduate what had did you do? chris: i went to proctor & gamble. i went into their brand management program at the headquarters in cincinnati. david: and after that? chris: so after that, i went to harvard business school and got my m.b.a. and after that, i went into consulting for a few years. david: but you spent a lot of time in the food world because you were before pepsi you were at -- after pepsi at kraft, is that right? chris: that's right. david: is it something about food that really appealed to you? chris: i would say what i love is being in consumer industries. for me, what i really find sort of energizing is having a tangible product that i can see, touch, feel, etc. and also one that, you know, people can relate to. when i say i work at pepsi or i work at kraft or i work at mcdonald's, immediately you can always have a conversation with people. and the fun thing for me and my current job, no matter where i am in the world, people have an opinion about mcd

david: during cova, or you working remotely? were you running the bank from your home or were you going into the office? >> i have spent quite a few weeks stuck in my apartment during the week of covid. the very sizable package put together for monetary policy purposes was engineered around my kitchen table. subsequently, when things were more flexible and we could move out i went to the office a bit. by default, the solution is remote working still today and probably until the end of january and then we will see. david: you should take that kitchen table and move it to your office. obviously, it was right -- it was productive. post-covid, do you expect europeans go back to work at the same levels before in terms of going to work five days a week or will people work four days a week, one day remotely or just four days a week? >> first we should acknowledge that there are people who do not have the luxury of choice. their physical presence is required. you think about hospital staff, construction workers, some people working in s

david: and how they stay there. you don't feel inadequate now that you are the second wealthiest man in the world, right? [laughter] one of the most successful investors and entrepreneurs in silicon valley is reid hoffman. as an entrepreneur, he helped build paypal and he started linkedin. as an investor, he has been an early investor in facebook and airbnb and now is a partner in one of the leading venture capital firms in silicon valley. i had a chance to find out what unique qualities it takes to be an investor and entrepreneur in my conversation with reid hoffman. ♪ the venture-capital world today seems like it could never get any better. everybody seems to be making money. the values are high and the returns are very high. can it get any better than this? and are you worried about this being a bubble, not unlike we had the tech bubble busts in 1999 and 2007? reid: you always worry about the market getting stimulated. there is some risk within the general market. that being said, technology is accelerating the

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>> reporter: hey, david. i'm concerned there's a tornado on the ground just to the east of philly, into new jersey, moving northeast at about 40 miles an hour. flood watch and tornado watch in a densely populated area. i implore everyone who lives in this zone to turn their emergency phone alerts on before they hunker down for the fight. david? >> all right, our thanks to you, rob. take this seriously. and we'll see you right back here tomorrow. i'm david muir. good night flames in the north bay tonight. just how close fire came t camet homes. >> here from firefighters who are the only force standing in the way of the caldor fire. >> we will have the latest in the accuweather forecast. abc 7 news at 6:00 starts right now. >> live, breaking news. >> a terrifying site in the north bay. in just the past those evacuation orders were downgraded to warnings as firefighters gained the upper hand. thank you for joining us. >> let's get right to kate larsen on the ground with the very latest on this. quite that is rig

david: you think it's all performance? he doesn't expect it to end up as an osha mandate businesses have to adhere to? >> the fact that they are using an emergenci' resolution. they aren't even complying with the administrative procedure act because they don't want a period of public commentary with respect to this regulation. he knows if he did it by executive order it would be shot down instantly. the supreme court said in the case involving the eviction moratorium, if the federal government wants to regulate in an area that is traditionally a state regulated area, they have to show that congress has been precise and unambiguous that the federal government can do the action it wants to take. david: a lot of businesses out there, a lot of them are right on the edge with just over a hundred people working for them. they are starting to freak out and say, they don't note legal e legalese you do. they are trying to see if they can afford to pay for the testing, et cetera. are you telling them don't worry about it because it

david: you sold it? >> yes. david: you cashed out, got a lot of money for a young person. did you say i'm going to retire now or just go teach? or just relax, what did you decide to do? >> it was complicated because along the way i had co-founder, co. started a number of other companies. between 1994 and 1990 seven, for other companies i have been the co-founder. each of them went public, three of them got sold. in a way, it was worse than just doing one thing and calling it a day. because i had also sampled doing multiple things and so i did not consider retiring. david: the norm would beat serial entrepreneur, where you start a company, finish it, go onto the next one. you are doing several at the same time. >> 20, 30 years later. david: when did you start raising funds were people could give you money to invest and you would then invest in various biotech ventures? >> since 2000, we have operated a series of funds. some of which has been my capital increasingly so in the larger ones. reason we did it that way was very interesting, our idea was to deploy the funds lucidl

david? >> all right, whit johnson here in new york tonight. whit, thank you. >>> we know many of you at home have questions because this is the pfizer booster first. they applied for authorization for their booster first. moderna and johnson & johnson could be applying in the coming weeks. in the meantime, let's bring in dr. ashish jha, dean of the brown university school of public health. and dr. jha, great to have you. the cdc tonight backing the single pfizer booster after six months for those 65 and older, for those 18 and older with underlying health conditions and given the data that you've studied, you're completely comfortable with this? >> good evening, david. yes, i am. i think the data supports that quite strongly and i think the cdc panel got that one right. >> the one surprise here, on this no vote, the experts were asked about those with jobs that have a high risk of infection, front line workers, teachers among them. the vote was no. 9-6 on this. a lot of those workers are wat

host: david? guest: i will say that all political protests should be nonviolent on the left and right. if people on the left do it, that's not going help their case. so there you go, i agree wow that, quin. as i mentioned earlier in the show, i worked -- my office, when i worked at the nation magazine was on capitol hill for many years. i spent a good part of my life up there. and it really sanded notice see what happened on january 6. but then in the aftermath, have to walk around up there, it looked like a garrison state with all the fencing up. so i think this time around, this time around, there's plenty of warning in that the capitol hill officers, the police in washington, d.c., national guard troops, they'll be available, can really prepare for this. i also think that the guy running this, who was last seen giving out analysis that was false, that the election had been stolen by donald trump. he claimed to be a data analyst, is not necessarily the type of person who's capable of bringing th

david mentioned that as well and how do we engage? we have a part to play as a foundation, where not going to solve this problem but we are giving it our best shot at how do we participate in a meaningful way and one thing we see is partnering with you all as the foundation to launch the civics, create an opportunity for us to come into our communities at the local level and encourage our young people to be a part and learn. as a foundation. >> i know that at least a good number in our audience are going to be chamber members around the country and many of those chambers i think could easily sponsor constitutional handing out constitutions declarations in schools. the reading of those documents, like hannah said, these contests about that. get students engaged. i'm very involved in teaching through primary documents, through the use of primary doctrine . preparing our teachers and schools to play a role. and that's something that all generations can participate in. so there's lots of ways to have communitywide conversations with which

david: this is david. hold that thought a second. since we are talking central banks, we have some breaking news. bank of japan. rishaad: target, 0%. staying patch. .1% negative here. also the balance right here that is the balance rate we are talking here. leaving the ceiling for exchange unchanged at ¥12 trillion. broadly what was anticipated it looks like. david: yes p.a.d. could take 95% of these headlines dropping and change the date four years ago. they would be exactly the same. with the exception of the green lending program. rishaad: the 2% inflation target. there we go. we will have more details on this. david: nine years of trying. apologies for that. let me bring you back in. the proposal the way i understand it that you are proposing is for the u.s. to release about 100 billion a week. >> when at 50 million. -- 150 million. david: where would we use that money? what is the most urgent need right now? >> thank you for asking. the urgent need is that money, $150 million per month will be used for the purpose of auctioning

david: thank you so much, david ksng talking about long-term objectives. let's camp down the start of trade. japan, a big shakeup. nintendo joining the index from the first of next month. real estate funds are among the biggest holdings of its hotel and leisure facilities with another one, get this ¥100 billion and cash earnings were out earlier topping estimates. the estimate was 0.4%. korean data coming out, the -- narrowed to 0.2 billion dollars. the finance minister is expected to attend the parliamentary budget committee meeting soon. south korea will now be accepted in hong kong beginning september 8. we have lots more ahead. this is bloomberg. ♪ ♪ haidi: the big story we are watching when trading begins in tokyo, the major shakeup of the nikkei 225. nintendo added to the blue-chip gauge. what are investors saying about these changes? were any of these a big surprise? >> investors are saying this is a little bit of a surprise. nintendo's inclusion was expected, the others not so much. people saying this is a positive move because you have three

david: so you have it here. your book -- this book is interesting in the sense that it came from lectures you gave named after somebody who was an ideological let's say opponent of some of your views. that was justice scalia. were you a friend of his even though you had ideological differences? >> i think so. we would debate those differences. i thought we had a terrific debate. in lubbock, texas, there were several thousands of students. they had never seen the supreme court justice. we talked about our differences. i say, hey, if i had your theory, my goodness, don't you think -- do you think george washington knew about the internet for free speech? and scalia would say, i knew that. then he would say, i'm not saying my theory is perfect. he would say, you know the hunters hunting bears and one is putting his tennis shoes, where are going? he says a bear is coming. you can't outrun a bear. yes, but i can outrun you. that was his view of my way of deciding cases. we -- 28 years now, i have never heard a voice

>> reporter: that's right, david. she says brian talked about how he'd been away from his girlfriend for several days and later abruptly asked to be dropped off. and we should mention the laundrie family attorney has scheduled a press conference for tomorrow afternoon. david? >> trevor, thank you. >>> there are alarming images from the texas border tonight. the white house pressed on them today, calling the images horrific. what were some border patrol agents doing? all this now as the biden administration puts migrants on flights back home to haiti. kenneth moton is in texas. >> reporter: tonight, this new video of haitian migrants at the southern border, the chaos and despair. images showing border patrol agents on horseback as they try to stop them from crossing the river into the u.s. the white house seeking answers. >> i've also seen the video. i can't imagine what the scenario is where that would be appropriate. it's obviously horrific, the footage. >> reporter: these chaotic scenes along the rio grande coming a

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david was 20 years old. david was a lifelong, he was born in laredo and raised nearby where he was the eldest of four children. david always wanted to be a marine and as a child, he loved to be considered military strategies as he played with toy soldiers. david joined the marines the summer after he graduated from lbj high school in laredo in 2019. he spent time s serving in jordn before being sent to kabul the week before he died. it's been said their service branches want to david to join the ranks but david always knew he was meant to be a marine. david was beloved son, a brother a friend and fellow marine. he was a patriot who had a passion for service and our nation can never repay the debt we owe to david and to his family for giving president lincoln hailed as the last full measure of l devotion. yesterday david's funeral mass, father francisco said tragic as the loss is and deepest wounds of sorrow have pierced part of his loved ones particularly his mother because her mother would rather lose an ar

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david: this is a fox business alert. there is now no border at all along a key section our southern border with mexico. it's simply gone. thousands of immigrants are streaming back and forth at will between mexico and del rio, texas, settling in a filthy immigrant camp set up informally on the u.s. side of the border. bill mellugin reports after over 10,000 people in that camp. border agents are completely overwhelm by what's going on. no one knows if any of the immigrants are threats to our national security. many thousands of them are from haiti which has a vaccination rate of less than 1%. they are free to roam wherever they want and spread whatever they have. there has been no word about this unprecedented breakdown of our national boundary from an administration that claims our border is closed. i'm david asman. we'll hear in the former acting director of customs and immigration enforcement. you bur wks fox news' bill mellugin. >> the situation has deteriorated. we got an exclusive ride along. incredible footage we