in supporting the iraq war. i build my own test as a realist and have never ceased to remind by readers of that over the last 20 years . i attended no other meetings about the iraq war. and it's correct to say that meeting such as this one, provided an intellectual veneer to the policy that emerged. what rankles me is that with a few exceptions, the people who were writing robustly in favor of the war in iraq, they're the editors of some of the most important publications in the united states . right now. they're my friends. i don't wanna single them out, but none of them paid a price not no $1.00. i supported the war because i was a journalist who had gotten too close to my story. i had made several trips in the 19 eighties and i had never experienced tyranny. like i did in saddam hussein's iraq, so i said to myself, what's worse than this? nothing could be worse than this. well, i found out in the years since the invasion that the anarchy in iraq after saddam cell was much, much worse than the tyranny under hi

hell broke loose in iraq. (explosions echo) >> we were taking casualties somewhat systematically every week. and then it began to be almost every day. and we were very slow to come to the recognition that we really did have an insurgency on our hands. >> narrator: it all ramped up: the insurgency and the denials. >> in iraq, difficult work remains. they're making progress against the dead-enders who are harassing coalition forces. >> the fact is that most of iraq today is relatively stable and quiet. >> the remnants of the thugs and crooks that looted their country and oppressed their countrymen will be rooted out and they will be taken care of. >> there are some who feel like that, you know, the conditions are such that they can attack us there. my answer is, bring them on. we've got the force necessary to deal with the security situation. >> the war was driven by vengeance and idealism. the vengeance part of it was the attempt to eliminate the people whom george w. bush referred to as the, quote-unquote, "ev

at that point the us military was the largest military presence in iraq. but i did get all the private military contract of spice in respect to be in charge. the 2nd largest on for me, the spicer is a fairly well known figure. and british political and media circles me but at the time of the award of the contract for iraq, it was awarded by a logistics contracting sell in virginia. not in iraq by a group of, you know, essentially acquisition bureaucrats who had no experience with the private military industry. no knowledge of the different players, and referred to him as a british guy. me the the world of private security contracted when they heard that this company called aegis one this contract and that the people that were working for him were so africans, and not american. there was, there was a period when you're applying for these contracts. your bid will include you and your business, his personal history. it doesn't say, you know, by the way, we were involved in this international controversy that almost costs a foreign ministers job. beatrice pris

in iraq, i think -- >> excuse me. could you explain because many of the students may not understand why we have that gap between the fbi and the cia. >> it was -- the gap -- the wall, as i like to call it was there for very good and legitimate reasons, which was we did not want our foreign intelligence agency, the cia, being active inside the country and perhaps spying too, use that word, on domestic events, on american citizens and so forth. so, the cia was kept to a foreign intell jnls agency. fbi, which operated under rules and laws, that was the internal intelligence agency. to give you one example. a few nights before 9/11, a telephone call was made in san diego by one of the men who would ultimately be one of the suicide hijackers to afghanistan but we couldn't track across that boundary because we didn't want the tracking of phone calls inside the united states by foreign intelligence. so, would i like to have known what he said a couple of days before 9/11? when we realized that, of course, we had an internal

we'll see how that went to 1000 to iraq. you had 10 deaths from terrorism a year after the invasion in 2004. there were 2000 in 201612000. there was no such thing as all kind and your rock now there is, there was no such thing as die before. there was no eyes this and now there is once again to sell america's war on terror, creates more terrorism. and besides living iraq's national treasures and museums, there was also something else being looted before iraq and nationalized soil history. but after 2003, well, let me put it this way. when there was math floating in baghdad, the only building us army decided to protect was the ministry of oil. go figure iraq, you have one of the best health care systems in the entire middle east. before the invasion. there were $34000.00 doctors, literally half of them. 17000 and doctors left a rock after 2003. 12 percent of iraq's hospitals were destroyed and told this was taken on civilians. look at the example of felicia, a city retake in 3 times. in 2004, the u. s. completely destroyed. o

once we got into 2002, and i remember it vividly, the talk was iraq, iraq, iraq all the time. somehow afghanistan had been solved and everything would fall into place. the military and cia had were planning for iraq and resources went there and the highflying officers, their attention was toward iraq. that was the war that could make their careers. a real army of history that this was done early success in afghanistan from team alpha and other cia teams, that led to hubris within the country and the bush administration, the regime change was easy so let's do another one. let's deal with another enemy. the rest is literally history. host: this is from david in los angeles. caller: i would really like to thank this gentleman for his contribution this morning. we all know that the first casualties of war are the troops. what that organization was about was a cia funded operation to deal with the cold effort against the soviet union in afghanistan, which was being funded by the u.s. government and cia and all the operatives. we come all the way over to where we are today. especial

the handling of iraq is different than the decision to go into iraq. if we had taken the advice of -- and -- and mccain and gone in the right way and had not completely eroded the middle rank of experienced government, we would've had a lot better results but be that as it may, i do want to say we weren't just going in there for links to 9/11. we were going and because iraq had ties to terrorists and he was dangerous. and he was harboring them and giving the bounties to the terrorist families. andy absolutely did have -- and he actually did have happens of mass destruction at one point and did not show definitively he had gotten rid of them. hindsight is 20/20, but our reasons for going in were justifiable for everything we knew at the time. host: david, anything to add to that? guest: i will just say that while we didn't kill them directly, utterly hundreds of thousands of iraqi civilians died in securing -- in the ensuing violence triggered by our invasion. we talk about in the book that george w. bush went in. he had no plan and no idea what to do a

, early in the iraq war. the presidents did before the end of the mission accomplished 3 and a half years later the debate us back over why the u. s. as in iraq, in the 1st place, public support for the war is falling war americans want the troops to come home. in a brief ceremony on a base on the edge of baghdad, the united states took down the flag of its command here to mark the end of the military mission. the u. s. money was starting to be pulled out on the rocky field operations, and the industry had to go to a very complicated recent me . the company had to realize that they weren't going to get that level of money. again, i said they had to offer different packaging deals. that meant they would have to hire cheapest soldiers. ah, the money when? no. no, no, no, no. she was a guy. i was wondering. ready ready when i go from there, okay. after one moment, don't want to call me at least you must always use you. i think you can watch at anything. you're going. sounds good about it. if i don't see anything

but at the time of the award of the contract for iraq, it was awarded by a logistics contracting sell in virginia. not in iraq by a group of you know, essentially acquisition bureaucrats who had no experience with the private military industry. no knowledge of the different players and referred to him as a british guy. me in the the world of private security contracted when they heard that this company called aegis one this contract and that the people that were working for him were so africans, and not american there was, there was furious when you're applying for these contracts, your bid will include you and your businesses, personal history. it doesn't say, you know, by the way, we were involved in this international controversy that almost cost a foreign ministers job be just prisons in iraq was relatively standard for one video which was posted on youtube from the contract that who is following the gun while playing rock music, the i know lead to actions will take what do your weapons in this battle in iraq? for me it's, it's the ability to coordinate and, and continue to help t

the i love the no legal actions will take what do your weapons in this battle in iraq? for me it's, it's the ability to coordinate and, and continue to help the reconstruction effort. the very rapidly just became a huge company. and they need to spice me of helping me majority of americans now think it was a mistake to go to war in iraq. really in the iraq war, the presidents do before the enter, the mission accomplished 3 and a half years later, the debate is back over why the u. s. as in iraq, in the 1st place, public support for the war is falling. war americans want the troops to come home in a brief ceremony on a base on the edge of baghdad, the united states took down the flag of its command here to mark the end of the military mission. the u. s. money was starting to get pulled out of the rocky field operations and the industry had to go to a very complicated reset. the company had to realize that they weren't going to get that level of money. again. i said they had to offer different deals. mm. that meant they would have to hire cheapest soldiers. ah yeah. monda

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this is very difficult and iraq he limited at that time particularly in iraq in theater who been put in to place, by that shiite leader basically in charge of a group that was stoking violence. so, until he got that commitment i don't think our forces were going to have confidence and putting more force behind him. there is a lot of work that went into it. history shows he went before the iraqi parliament and made virtually this statement, i'm going to treat everyone who breaks the law equally. and he did to the point where he had to basically build a different political coalition because he lost the support of that group. he started to arrest them for their still halfway, either you're going after these guys or you're not. he made that shift. and our military sought immediately. that is an example of how that decision or this process is not only about making the decision. it was creating the circumstances the decision could be implemented successfully. and, a lot of the skill of the president and steve hadley and bringing people along. not by convincing them, twisting their arms, pu

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then the islamic state of iraq and then the islamic state of iraq and syria, isis. so, in all of these ways, it's hard to look at the world as it is today and argue that, over the past two decades, we have promoted more safety than risk that's been created, that we have achieved more than we have lost. >> so, what changed in your thinking? was it your experience with iraqis and afghans that informed your change of heart? >> oh, it was just realizing that everything we touched kind of turned to ash, that partially you cannot -- >> because we touch it or the way we did it? >> well, i mean, i would love for us to have been engaged in, you know -- instead of leading with the dod and then leaving state to clean up the mess, instead of having an intelligence community that was more focused on who can we kill next than how do we inform policymakers so that they can make the best decisions and judgments. you know, everything was prioritized around this -- this martial response and around this, you know -- frankly, what i think grew out of a sense of "we need vengeance." and

what will that mean for iraq? i had a chance to sit down with the president of that country, barham salih, while he was in new york for the u.n. general assembly this week. >> mr. president, welcome. >> thank you for having me, fareed. >> when you watched the fall of afghanistan, the fall of the kabul government, the withdrawal of the americans, what was your reaction in europe? >> obviously, i was very concerned about the plight of the afghani people. i feel for them. i know what it means to be in a situation of conflict for so long. i know the plight of refugees having been a refugee myself and iraqis forced to flee their own country. so i was very concerned about the plight of the afghani people. but there's also a lesson from what happened 20 years on from the american intervention and international intervention in iraq. sorry, in afghanistan. no matter how much international support, and no matter how much investment is made in these situations without good governance and without support of your own populatio

before iraq nationalized toil history. but after 2003, well, let me put it this way. when there was math floating in baghdad, the only building us army decided to protect was the ministry of oil go figure. iraq is that one of the best health care systems in the entire middle east before the invasion. there were $34000.00 doctors, literally half of them. 17000 and doctors left a rock after 2003. 12 percent of iraq's hospitals were destroyed and told this was taken on civilians. look at the example of felicia, a city retake in 3 times. in 2004, the u. s. completely destroyed. one 5th, 20 percent of all the buildings and for loser, the u. s. dropped so many bombs, they literally turn the city radioactive from all the depleted uranium and chemical weapons. now solution is one of the highest rates of cancer and infant mortality in the world with children being born with her riffing birth defect. child birth defects skyrocketed with some 33 times the rate in europe, the birth defects and for lucia are even higher than in hero sh

because i've got to take care of this iraq thing." >> i personally resented the waar in iraq. >> when lieutenant general barno arrived in 2003, he had about 57,000 fewer troops in afghanistan than were in iraq. 57,000. the following year that gap doubled to about 115,000. >> they had a v-8 engine in iraq tuned up and you had something much less in afghanistan. so everything was harder. here's an example. >> summer 2009 we have a horrible problem with improvised explosive devices, ieds, and mines. we have a total of three what are called route clearance companies to open up routes. in iraq at the same time with far less incidents at that point with i.e.d.s and mines there are some 90 route clearance companies. >> fire in the hole. >> and that didn't change until there was a large surge that was approved by the obama administration. >> that's eight years. >> that's eight years. now, what happens in that eight years? you have a taliban which has generally a safe haven in the frontier provinces and the federally administered tribal areas in pakistan. they become resurgent. and eight years

there is no claim that the taliban a partner in waiting for iraq. that gives us a clear picture on how iran is still on the fence. i would say that statement media in iran are sharing the same messages that you see coming out of russia and china, which talks about this issue in a broader context, the united states having failed afghanistan, about the general american decline, about the nationbuilding in the foreign policy agenda failing and afghanistan being a prime example. you can see the russians and the chinese in the iranians speaking the same language. there are also conspiracy theories in tehran, and it is not limited to tehran, which talk about why did the americans leave the way they did. it is a conspiracy theory, but this theory tells us that the united states left the way it did to restart a new civil war in afghanistan with the mission being to pull russia, china and iraq into a new quagmire. it is a conspiracy theory, but it is one that is being mentioned and it is not limited to iraq. you see doubts, and now it is about the taliban, i

qaeda affiliates in syria and ruby peninsula and isis attempting to create a kayla fight in syria and iraq and establishing affiliates across african asia. the fundamental obligation of a president, in my opinion, is been defend and protect america. not against threats of 2001, but against the threats of 2021 and tomorrow. will tell about leaders say they want to attract international investment form an inclusive government. while the group has been celebrating, it's also expressed disappointment at what's been left behind. the taliban alleges that the departing foreign troops, disabled planes and helicopters, destroy equipment, had cobbles at port in all the news reports, the syrian government, local leaders from the rebel held city of draw have reach an agreement for 3 days. so far. as you begin on wednesday, government forces have recently ramped up the offensive to take euro arcane ida has left hundreds of thousands on the u. s. gulf coast without drinking water, electricity. a night time curfew is in place in new orleans to stop for the crime off to the city was left in darkness. the

so we fill the contractor presence in iraq in particular. but afghan stand to was becoming contrary to what the was for the armed forces. therefore their presence was more danger then it was held. the join me every 1st day on the alex simon show. when i was speaking to guess in the world, the politic sport business, i'm show business. i'll see you then. in the way the u. s. government funded is through the issuance of treasury bond and they pay the interest on those bonds by collecting taxes. who owns most of those bonds, if not virtually all those bond, the top 110th of one percent. so the government simply becomes a pass through mechanism for people to pay money from their pockets through something called taxes that are just a thickly that hides the transmission mechanism of your money through the government into those who own these bond. september the 11th 2001 day that reshape to the modern world. i remember watching the world trade center burn on a tv at the cia and i was standing there like this just looking at it. and a colleague of m

the lock in for, for iraq not hear from you. like you said, i need to know if i was supposed to what are you not one of those who read for me. he's only 2 food at the top right. if i to the, to the, from a chair and the iraq equipment was considered a quite good deal in the sense that they could actually take local trouble. make us something in a way to rec, for a couple of years. and then turning them after 2 years with money from the overseas deployment. this could serve to stabilize security. in the beginning of the training course, the one real weapon presence. so that using these wooden sticks, i was referred to a couple of days and for the training that the weapons arrived. and they were being lined up at these wooden tables within in the middle of the big camp. the tension and excitement also attention mainly because now it's actually getting into something very well for many of the crews and the 1st time holding a weapon. since anything of the civil law the menu were starting to to shake and some were starting to cry whe

ah, so in the early days of iraq, it was a gold rush. you had companies coming out of nowhere, including black water, was really like a cowboy. why last? when nobody at any control, anybody doing anything with firearms in this country could say there are private military company, was an atm, this company the basic idea of a contractor versus recruiting training and supporting military events is that there is a hiring process to getting married. so instead of a soldier who has an ex cost of a, you're not paying a contract or being a times $10.00. what has happened is that america has basically married and prosper and has been active, taking them for a very long period of time today. for example, if you invade a country, they've been appeals, i've known a few of the rest of this. now we will get wrong or very the hip from using private military contractors for understandable tasks to using private military contractors. wholesale in my view, took place without much debate, and all everybody laughed. contractors offer some gray area benefits

so we fill the contractor presence in iraq in particular. but afghan stand to was becoming contrary to what the mission was for the armed forces. therefore, their presence was more dangerous than it was held. the the ah, me. i have often said transparency for the powerful receipt for the bell. this bit cares about privacy. what people care about is power. antonia and sons is become a symbol of the battles of brevity. information is power. that's what's going on. a huge struggle with the government's corporations who want to keep information secret and others who democratic rights should be pushed forward. and people have a right to know what they're going to do. watch how much help to shift the conversation around transparency. see what that battle has done to him. i feel like julian's life might be coming to an end. we are in a conflict situation with the largest and most powerful employer. in such a situation. it's remarkable to survive the support suggest us mistakenly targeted and african aid worker in the drone strike killing 10 members

and its allies into up conflict in iraq. the defenders on the war on terror say not only avenge the 9/11 attacks with the killing of osama bin laden in 2011 but it made it safer and has not been another attack on that scale despite fears of the time that more assaults were inevitable. defenders of the war say while the attempt to bring stable democracies afghanistan may have ultimately failed in iraq remains a work in progress the u.s. has brought 20 years of relative security. but was this long and debilitating war worth it? the only initial route of the taliban of bin laden was a larger effort to build stability in the region of success. it is true there have been no more nine elevenths but there have been plenty of other big terror attacks in madrid, london, paris and on a smaller scale in the united states. what's more the price of the war on terror has been massive the loss of american life larger than the numbers who died on 9/11 more than 7000 servicemen and women have given their lives in many contractors and other r

and then you had the war in iraq and everything that came up with the war in iraq to me is the dividing line in the discussion. the debate between all of the events that the base between 911 and 20 years later, i think until the war in iraq we had to pick up on a, on a theme. from the previous segment was not only unity within the united states. there was a unity in the international community. the world rally behind the united states ought to be events of $911.00 that was horror and repugnant, spelt towards the terrace attacks all over the world. and countries that didn't normally regard themselves as allies of the united states. the project was important to show that solid, dirty, and show support. and that support was been converted into an alliance that went to war and found the people to try to beat. and before for 2 years that i think it's safe to say that that sold identity remained. then president bush decided to change his reason. but she would warn iraq and that unity, global unity that was behind the united states, began to fray pretty quickly that after. and so i think it's

bush began withdrawing troops from iraq in 2007. but it wasn't until early 2020 the iraqi parliament voted to withdraw all remaining u.s. soldiers from the region after multiple isis attacks centered on their presence. now, 20 years after the eventual, president biden's afghanistan withdrawal finally brought some sort of conclusion to the 9/11 era, in a recognition that this war on terror will never truly be over. so where do we go from here? joining me now is robbie agoual and bobby gauche from bloomberg opinion. gentlemen, thank you for joining me today on this somber day as we commemorate the lives lost on 9/11 and the tragic events of that day. i think this question of how you move forward, there's still obviously this pervasive threat abroad. as we look at the withdrawal of afghanistan, the vacuum that feasibly could be created to -- for another kind of, you know, terror -- terrorist organization to build, how do you monitor those threats from abroad without more loss of human life, thinking about thousands upon thousands of pe

so we fill the contractor presence in iraq in particular. but afghan stand to was becoming contrary to what the mission was for the armed forces. therefore their presence was more dangerous than it was held. the september the 11th 2001 day that reshaped the modern world. i remember watching the world trade center bird on a tv at the cia and i was standing there like this just looking at it. and a colleague of mine was standing next to me and he said, my god, do they have any idea what they've done? we're going to kill everybody now. everybody, the, the live tv images promote the us into declaring its war on terror. began to bomb africa, villages, and holmes, and get people hurt and, and killed the main goal of destroying terrorism. and then was it achieved? yes. and no ok to essentially no longer exists good for us, but there are certainly other terrorist groups that are worse than on the ahead of the anniversary of 911 art. he's been looking at the lasting impacts. the us led war on terror. a british army veteran described the devastating t

was diverted into iraq. the third inflection point was when we finally did kill osama bin laden, that would have been president obama's point to quickly try to draw down the military mission. there really was no clear political enstd state that lead to deep questions, was it worth it? what was it all about? >> what do you say to gold star parents or veterans who wonder if it was worth it? >> i would say to the families for what i have failed to do, i am so rrry. i did the best i could. >> why do you blame yourself? >> if this is as failure, i carry my share of it. >> what's your message to the u.s. veterans sitting at home watching these events and really having a tough time with it. what do you say to them? >> i would say you and your comrade, you helped us walk. so many people start to thinking differently, doing things differently. expanding their world view and treating their women better. it's not reversible. that progress would stay forever. and your sacrifices made that happen. >> for years now i have

and its allies into up conflict in iraq. the defenders on the war on terror say not only avenge the 9/11 attacks with the killing of osama bin laden in 2011 but it made it safer and has not been another attack on that scale despite fears of the time that more assaults were inevitable. defenders of the war say while the attempt to bring stable democracies afghanistan may have ultimately failed in iraq remains a work in progress the u.s. has brought 20 years of relative security. but was this long and debilitating war worth it? the only initial route of the taliban of bin laden was a larger effort to build stability in the region of success. it is true there have been no more nine elevenths but there have been plenty of other big terror attacks in madrid, london, paris and on a smaller scale in the united states. what's more the price of the war on terror has been massive the loss of american life larger than the numbers who died on 9/11 more than 7000 servicemen and women have given their lives in many contractors and other r

it is not that that egypt ain't that back to iraq. and again, you don't know these guys was from iraq against the over me leave you. so where is the logic here? and i understand why people are full of conspiracy theories because the western divisional process, an aggressive country, is just bonds, big while your brains conspiracy theory, right? so people have no trust issue information, and that's why sometimes they think of theories of their own. i'm going to stick to fact here. i think george is absolutely correct when he says that these was lot a war against terror when, when bush invaded stand iraq. i think that even in the states, no, you can read them in the article by daniel mac, coffee, the war on terror was a war over religion in the, in the more than sense, you know, i think the people in washington and the people in brussels by the way genuinely believed that they kind of force on their guns. they are new. i your, when geometry liberal, i go. i mean, another nice headline from district a that did gender studies loser game h

to justify the iraq into vege. richard bruce cheney vice president, united states who orchestrated the office of special plans through rum spell and douglas fight, and the pentagon and others whom george tenant, the director of central intelligence, coerced in france, jordan, germany and other places. and when i say coerced, it's not that hard to do because if you're sharing intelligence from such sophisticated national technical means as the u. s. possesses with your allies and they don't want to stop that sharing and make you angry enough to possibly curtail lecture. and they will go along with your war slides and that's what people did today. people talk to me about dominic ban and france and schrock in their opposition. i could tell you that the french were right in there when power was preparing for his presentation at the un, those french that tenant aloud. in saying that we were right. there were aluminum tubes, for example, that indeed they had spawn some in their own laboratories and they spot them 298000