but before we get to all that, rudy giuliani has reportedly been banned from fox news, as both rudy and the network face defamation lawsuits from the election technology company, dominion, over the big lie, spread in large part by giuliani a lie that was disproven, yet again, by a gop-funded audit in arizona that blew up in their faces. for more on this, it's time for "a closer look." ♪ >> seth: before we get into the state of our politics here at home, we're going to do something a little different tonight and talk about the results of yesterday's election in germany now, stay with me here, because this is a little complicated the center left social democrats, or spd, led by olaf scholz, the vice chancellor and former mayor of hamburg, narrowly defeated the conservative block or cdu/csu, led by armin laschet, his party's successor to angela merkel. but in order to form a government, they'll need to engage in coalition talks with smaller parties, such as the greens and the free democrats, to reach a majority. in the bundestag, which would lead to germany's first-ever - [ siren blaring

so is rudy giuliani prepared to dance to the republican pa rty�*s current tune? no, i'm too stubborn. i can't, i can't change. then you telling me you're thinking about running for the white house isn't going to go anywhere, is it? well, it might. what has to happen is that people have to decide that these other things are more important, which sometimes happens. all right. but i can't. .. but my views are my views on the social issues, and i'm going to remain that way. before we end, ijust want to return, in a way, to thinking about the meaning of this particular place where we are right now. everybody in america seems to be talking about extracting the meaning from 9/11. some argue that, actually, although it felt — and i was in north america at the time, too — although it felt like the world had fundamentally changed forever on that terrible day, maybe the world didn't change quite as much as we thought as a result of 9/11. well, i don't think the world changed at all on september 11th. i think september 11th allowed us to perceive more clearly realities t

not rudy specifically, but rudy couldn't help but chime in and confess. mukasey, in the heat of a political campaign on television, "i'm not saying rudy, necessarily, but everybody embellishes everything." giuliani, "oh, you could throw a fake." mukasey, "you're under no obligation to tell the truth." giuliani, "you could throw a fake." what was the prep for that meeting like "just keep your mouth shut, rudy, and i'll do the talking. "got it. i might jump in a few times to say you can throw a fake." "don't do that." "i won't maybe just a couple of times." [ light laughter ] "don't do it at all. "i'll just do it twice, but i'll wait until they're recording." "rudy! "i promise i won't do it." "do you really promise?" "no, i'm throwing a fake." [ light laughter ] the republican party is busy trying to cement the big lie that the 2020 election was stolen by using it to justify new voter suppression laws that'll make it both harder to vote and easier to overturn results they don't like. meanwhile, the people who concocted that lie are facing major legal and fi

rudy giuliani america's mayor. >> it's rudy giuliani, president trump's lawyer. maybe we can get this fixed up. >> reporter: the maricopa board of supervisors had this subpoena demanding officials handover millions of ballots to state elections officials launching fraud investigations. >> he wanted us to turnover the ballots as soon as possible so that the state senate could get to work. >> get to work doing? >> one of the objectives is to get their hands on the ballot before the january 6 th hearing in the capitol. they wanted evidence to support desert flying the election. one of the main reasons i became a republican in the 1980s is i thought the republican party was the party of the rule of law. the party of the constitution. >> reporter: in michigan, a wayne county republican election official voted to certify the election, then changed her mind after a call from donald trump. >> i have provided them with a copy of my affidavit resending my vote. >> reporter: in, trump not only recalled the top elections investigators. >> whatever you can do francis. >> repo

rudy giuliani sent documents which rudy giuliani believes proved his theory. the claims were so flimsy that graham did not buy them. that's according to the new book by woodward and acosta. graham publicly packed trump. he came to the conclusion that rudy giuliani's argument were suitable for third grade. >> graham was one of president trump's top allies on capitol hill. one of the senators he was most close with, daily conversations over the phone. frequent visits to mar-a-lago. if he could not convince him then there was not going to be convincing anyone. >> reporter: woodward and costa wrote that trump's teams also tried to convince another loyalist. cer but that lead did not buy that legal argument. after publicly backing trump's efforts, graham and lee voted to certify the election results. on the night of january 6th in the wake of the attack graham voiced his frustration with trump's efforts to counter the results. >> awesomll i can say is count out. enough is enough. i tried to be helpful. >> reporter: the coauthor are defending the action of general m

on september 11, 2001, i was 28 years old, serving as mayor rudy giuliani's chief speech writer. on my desk was a list of every first responder that died in the line of duty that day. their names filled 47 pages. the heroes of 9/11, the people going up the stairs into the fire as other people were trying to get out. city government mobilized, four of us in our small office tried to do them justice and say thank you on behalf of the city as families tried to assimilate unimaginable loss in their lives. giuliani was a republican in a democratic city, effective, controversial, cutting crime and welfare in half, he prepared to leave office after eight years. he was spontaneously applauded into the streets, transformed into america's mayor. four days after the attack, the first funeral was held for father michael judge, beloved fire department chaplain killed by debris as he administered last rights to a fallen firefighter. we lost so many of new york's bravest that day, including 60 off duty firefighters that rushed to the towers when they heard of the attack. we lost two special ope

but there is one thing that rudy giuliani is right about. you can't possibly believe it because none of it is true. none of it is true. not the venezuelans, not george soros, and not antifa, not black lives matter. those are good buzzwords, and it scares a lot of people, but none of it is true, i hate to tell you. like i say, the whole thing was clown show complete with colors. it could be funny, except it was all in support of a big lie, the big lie that fueled january 6, one of the worst domestic terror attacks in our nation's history. and if you think the threat is over, there is the fbi director, christopher wray, in today's senate homeland security meaning warning the bureau's domestic terrorism caseload has, his word, domestic terrorism caseload has exploded. in that same hearing, the homeland secretary alejandro mayorkas was horrified of border patrol agents on horseback chasing migrants along the rio grande. images that make you think of how enslaved people were treated in this country. the individuals who are the subject of the inve

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rudy giuliani, america's mayor. >> it is rudy giuliani. president trump's lawyer. i have a few things i'd like to talk over with you. >> reporter: the maricopa county supervisors received a subpoena demanding a hand over of millions of ballots to state republican politicians launching fraud investigations. >> you want us to turn the ballots as soon as possible so the state senate could get to work. >> get to work? doing --? >> one of the objectives was to get their hands on the ballot before the january 6 hearing in the capitol. they wanted evidence to support decertifying the election. >> it is constitution be damned, really. >> right. one of the main reasons i became a republican in the 1980s was i thought the republican party was the party of the rule of law. the party of the constitution. >> reporter: in michigan, a wayne county republican election official voted to certify the election and then changed her mind after a call from donald trump. >> i have provided them with a copy of my affidavit rescinding my vote. >> reporter: in georgia, trump called the state

rudy giuliani, america's mayor. >> bill, it's rudy giuliani. president trump's lawyer. i have a few things i had alike to talk over with you. maybe, we can get this thing fixed up. the maricopa county board of supervisors just received this subpoena demanding election officials hand over millions of ballots to state-republican politicians who were launching fraud investigations. >> you want us to turn over the ballots as soon as possible. um, so that the state senate can get to work. >> get to work doing? >> one of the objectives was to get their hands on the ballot before the january 6th hearing in the capitol. they wanted evidence. to support decertifying the election. >> it's constitution be damned, really. >> right. one of the main reasons i became a republican in the 1980s was i thought the republican party was the party of the rule of law. the party of the constitution. >> reporter: in michigan, a wayne county republican election official voted to certify the election. then, changed her mind after a call from donald trump. >> i have provided them with a copy of my

here is trump's lawyer rudy giuliani. i should mention he right now is currently awaiting word as to whether the suspension of his law license will be permanent or if someday he might get it back. here he is under questioning and under oath explaining the due diligence he did as a lawyer, as an officer of the court, when he decided he needed to go public with these claims that the election was stolen. he needed to go public with these claims that dominion voting machines and executives of dominion were the villains who somehow stole the election from donald trump. remember, this conspiracy thory is not just for them. they believe it and said president biden should not legally be president, that donald trump belongs in the oval office because of all the things that went wrong in this rigged election. where did all that come from? now we know. because here is the president's lawyer explaining how hard he worked to make sure the rigged election was a real thij before he started spreading it. here's what he says. question, as

rudy giuliani, america's mayor. >> it's rudy giuliani, president trump's lawyer. i have a few things i want to talk over with you. >> reporter: the maricopa board of supervisors received this subpoena demanding election officials hand over billions of ballots to state republican politicians launching fraud investigations. >> he wanted us to turnover the ballots as soon as possible so that the state senate can get to work. >> get to work doing? >> one of the objectives was to get their hands on the ballot before the january 6th hearing in the capitol. they wanted evidence to support desertfying the election. >> it's constitution be dammed really. >> right. one of the main reasons i became a republican in the 1980s was i thought the republican party was the party of the rule of law. the party of the constitution. >> in michigan, a wayne county republican election official voted to certify the election, then changed her mind after a call from donald trump. >> i have provided them with a copy of my affidavit resending my vote. >> reporter: in georgia g,, tru not only

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rudy giuliani, america's mayor. >> it is president trump's lawyer. i have a few things i would like to talk over with you. maybe we could get this thing fixed up. >> reporter: he just received this subpoena, demanding election officials hand over millions of ballots to state republican politicians who were launching fraud investigations. >> he wanted us to turn over the ballots as soon as possible so the state senate could get to work. >> get to work doing? >> one of the objectionives was to get their hands on the ballot before the january 6th hearing in the capital. they wanted evidence to support desertfying the election. >> reporter: it's constitution be damned really. >> right. one of the main reasons i became a republican in the 1980s was i thought the republican party was the party of the rule of law. the party of the constitution. >> reporter: in michigan, a wane county republican official voted to certify the election, then changed her mind after a call from donald trump. >> i have provided them with a copy of my affidavit rescinding my vote.

it wasn't that long ago that rudy giuliani and the republican leadership of the state of georgia invited rudy giuliani down for two different voter fraud, quote, unquote, election integrity hearings in december in the state weeks before the election, and then their ally to the vote tried to kick 360,000 georgians off the rolls two weeks before the election, and what's a problematic thing here about raffensperger around integrity, all of the voter fraud lies that giuliani and the republicans spewed in these december hearings that caused elections officials to get threatened, that caused state legislators to get threatened, all of those lies got transmitted into this massive bill in georgia and then copycatted in arizona, texas, florida, tennessee, arkansas, ohio, and it all goes back to the big lie. so if brad raffensperger and other republicans want to fight disinformation they need to fight their own party. >> thank you very much for starting off our discussion tonight, really appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. >>> joining us now is neal katyal, former acting solicitor general, and

it was rudy giuliani and sydney powell, explicitly pushed the conspiracy theory, that dominion, george soros and venezuela worked together to rig the election. and donald trump's campaign had literally just debunked internally in writing. the memo was uncovered in it's "the new york times" filed as part of a defamation lawsuit brought against the trump campaign and others by a former dominion employee. but it raises questions about donald trump's personal involvement. the "times" stresses, quote, it is unclear that mr. trump knew about or saw the memo. it adds this, quote, the document suggests that his campaign staff remained silent when it knew about dominion. and donald trump repeated false claims about dominion in efforts to steal the election in the wake of the memo, on three days after it, the only thing secure about our 2020 election was that it was virtually impenetrable by foreign powers. on that, the trump administration takes great credit. unfortunately, the democrats and dominion were unsuccessful. that was certainly not his last attempt to blame dominion voting for an elec

i knew that voice, you know, rudy giuliani, america's mayor. >> bill, it's rudy giuliani, president trump's lawyer. i have a few things i would like to talk over with you. maybe we can get this thing fixed up. >> reporter: the maricopa county board of supervisors had just received this subpoena demanding election officials hand over millions of ballots to state republican politicians who were launching fraud investigations. >> he wanted us to turn over the ballots as soon as possible, so that the state senate could get to work. >> reporter: get to work doing? >> one of the object iives was get their hands on the ballot before the january 6th hearing in the capitol. they wanted evidence to support dese dese de-certifying the election. >> it's constitution dammed. >> one of the main reasons i became republican was because i thought the republican party was the party of the rule of law. >> reporter: in michigan, a wayne county republican official voted to certify the election, and changed her mind after a call from donald trump. >> i have provided them with a copy of my affidavit rescinding my

during a september 11th memorial dinner on saturday, rudy giuliani imitated britain's queen elizabeth by marrying his cousin [ laughter ] supreme court justice amy coney barrett appeared yesterday at an event with senate minority leader mitch mcconnell and said she was worried that the public sees the court as a partisan institution. which is kind of like performing at the vmas with taylor swift and worrying that people will see you as a musician. the mtv music awards -- video music awards were held last night, and madonna made a surprise appearance to open the show the audience was so shocked, they all got out their phones and looked her up on wikipedia [ laughter ] i know they're young. i know the fast food chain burger king last week unveiled its so-called "keep it meal," which partners with several celebrities but uses their real names, instead of stage names though i'm not sure how well the robert allen zimmerman burger will sell. [ laughter ] an investigation concluded last week that a recent mta subway outage that shut down 83 trains was caused by someone accidentally flipping

from may 2004, rudy giuliani testifying before the september 11 commission on their response to the terror attacks. former secretary of state, condoleezza rice and jay matus reflecting on the 20 any -- 20th anniversary of september 11. george w. bush administration officials recount their experiences from that day. >> c-span's or unfiltered view of government. we are funded by these president come -- companies and more. including this one. ♪ >> they support c-span as a public service along with these other providers, giving you from proceed to democracy. >> on may 19, 2004, rudy giuliani testified before the september 11 commission. he discussed the cities emergency response -- cities emergency response to the terrorist attacks. this is two hours.

we should never forget the role of rudy giuliani in allowing the situation to go on for so long. amy: and that was very different at the pentagon, which was also attacked, where they had the proper attire. we will talk with joe zadroga in a minute. the bill is the joe zadroga act, his son that has since died. back in a minute. ♪♪ [music break] amy: son by michael williams in "the wire," michael williams who has died at the age of 54 in brooklyn. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman with juan gonzalez. we are spending the hour look at the out raging new film, "9/11's unsettled dust, following the 9/11 responders and survivors who had to fight for health care justice while they were sick. i need his clip, we hear joe zadroga discuss his son james, 9/11 responder and then your congresswoman carolyn maloney. >> my son jimmy was an nypd dective. he was sicks on as heot ho, three mons aftethe evt i saido h, let's go t colomb presbytian hostal and talko a pulmonologi, the head pulnologistbe a prbyterian ent tohe hospil. the ctor satith

so they're getting the goods on all the big names, donald, melania, the trump kids, rudy giuliani, steve bannon. they've getting records from 15 social media companies, not just facebook and twitter but parlor and 4chan and all those creepy places on the web where desk terrorists hide. there will be records from federal agencies that will be the most productive. we're going to get all political appointees, what they knew about any attempts to supports the big lie in the federal government. jonathan, my favorite might be the request for all documents related to the stability of donald trump or his fitness for office. >> ooh. actually that is -- that is -- wow. i can't wait to see what those results entail. jared, so then what do we need to know about september 18? >> i think a lot of the coverage we've been seeing about september 18 has quite frankly been hyperbolic, based on the analysis we're seeing. this rally that's planned for september 18 is going to potentially be very significant, but maybe not in the sense that it could generate another type of january 6 event, but rather it coul

a lot of this came before we saw rudy giuliani and sydney powell out there spreading these things. "the new york timetimes" says i deposition related to this, rudy giuliani says he never saw the memo. there is clear open source stuff and very obvious it was easy to debunk this. this has not stopped former president trump from still trying to spread all of this information, just days ago wrote a new letter to georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger asking him to overturn the election in georgia. it says i would respectfully request that your department check this and if true along with many other claims of voter fraud and voter irregularities start the process of decertifying the election, or whatever the correct legal remedy is and announce the true winner. he was on cnn earlier this morning to react to that letter. here's what he had to say. >> i look at his letters as a plea for attention. he knows he's lost. he's been told that multiple times by a lot of people. but at the end of the day, that information he talked about, we open up an investigation, we have lots of invest

there's only one. >>> rudy giuliani getting bad news on his ongoing criminal case. his request to have material feds seized and raised denied by federal judge. feds took 18 electronic devices. giuliani's team requested some be returned or destroyed. that's not going to happen. "the wall street journal" reporting the feds are examining his communications with former ukrainian offices and whether he violated foreign lobbying rules. tonight a trove of documents in the possession of the feds and giuliani will not get them back and a final programming note beginning tonight. beginning tomorrow the launch of new show show ayman. watch him saturdays at 8:00 eastern and sunday at 9:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. that does it for me. the reid out with joy reid is up next. >> that's exciting. i love ayman. but i want to see a jason johnson show. that's what i'm thinking about. let's work on that. >> interesting idea. yeah, yeah. >> i like this idea, okay. i'm going to noodle on it. but first i'm going to do a show for an hour. you have a great weekend. good evening, everyone. we b

by the way, bringing this full circle, rudy giuliani -- >> mr. pillow just keeps going on. >> giuliani doing infomercials for my pillow. >> slippers. he says they're fuzzy. >> taking it to the next level, he likes the towels mr. pillow makes, too. >> he's a perfect guy to do mr. pillow commercials. earlier this year, didn't we see him lying on a bed in a movie? >> oh, my gosh. >> mr. pillow. >> he gets sweaty. a towel could be useful, too. >> if you had doubt that donald trump was on board with this, last week, he sent a letter to the secretary of state in georgia, who said overturn the election that took place a year ago. he said no. donald trump is very much on board with this. as you both have said, he is happy to have lunatics like sidney powell out saying things like she's saying. >> people will believe it. >> some people will. >>> still ahead on "morning joe," former secretary of state john kerry joins the table to weigh in on president biden's u.n. address. >>> plus, we'll speak to the likely next mayor of new york city. >> 50.1%. >> eric

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he's got the stop the steal organizer, brooks, rudy giuliani. remember brooks was the one that gave that impassioned speech on january 6th to tell the crowd start kicking ass, before they went to the capitol and a bunch of them bludgeoned the heads of police officers. what did he talk to rudy giuliani about? well, finchem did not give up on overturning the election. after the insurrection failed, the fraudulent audit in arizona spent more than $400,000 to hire off-duty police officers as security, and they paid that money to -- drumroll, please, a non-profit created by none other than mark finchem. state representative. he's now, by the way, running for secretary of state in arizona. yesterday mark finchem picked up a big endorsement from the man he's worked to keep in power against the will of the people, donald trump. trump called finchem a patriot, praised his, quote, incredibly powerful stance on voter fraud that took place during the 2020 presidential election scam. now, the position of arizona secretary of state is currently held by this o

rudy giuliani can't even get his story straight while he's telling it. i never once met prince andrew. ever! i mean, one time we hung out in my office and had that party that one time. bernie remembers that, don't you, bernie? i don't know who bernie is, but i bet he and his wife had aer have long car ride home. turns out rudy wasn't the only politician observing the day. president biden went to the world trade center with former presidents barack obama and bill clinton and george w. bush, who gave a real beautiful and inspiring speech about unity and democracy. i mean, don't get me wrong, he skipped the pages about opening torture chambers and invading countries that had nothing to do with 9/11, but beside that, a beautiful speech. while that's the traditional way for former presidents to commemorate 9/11, there's one president who's never been about the traditional. >> during a visit with firefighters to commemorate the 20th anniversary about 9/11, former donald trump repeated the false claim that he won the 2020 election. >> we won the election. we're

rudy giuliani has been suspended from the practice of law. this memo is a really important piece of evidence that shows knowledge and intent to defraud. >> these companies have sued for defamation. i know slander well, because you have to as a reporter. what is the standard in defamation? >> well, when it comes to matters of public officials and public figures -- i suppose doe -- dominion may qualify for that. either you knew the claim was false or that you acted with reckless disregard as to whether it was false. here i would think in a lawsuit, they would have to show, what was their basis for believing this true? this memo strikes me as a smoking gun to show they knew it was false or they at least acted with reckless disregard as to whether it was true. it seems that by whatever standard, this is a very important piece of evidence in the defamation lawsuit. >> thank you very much. >>> don't go anywhere. scott gottlieb spent two years as the head of the fda under donald trump. he is here to shed light on the failed covid response and how we

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i didn't even want to respond to it. >> yeah. >> it's hard to describe rudy je giuliani these days. it's -- shaking your head, that's the response. >> i don't want to say, people have tried to separate what happened 20 years ago and today, but he won't let it. this was at a september 11th event. that separation is awfully hard to make when he's doing things like this. >> yeah. >> gloria borgeer, joe walsh, thank you for being with us this morning. >>> former fda chief mosque up his timeline for when a coronavirus vaccine could be approved for children. >> best case scenario, given the time line i just laid out out, you could have a vaccine for children 8 to 11 by halloween if the fda ultimately makes a positive determination. >> it's not his decision. sorry, go ahead, brianna. >> the forecast is even earlier than the one he gave two weeks ago, projecting shots would likely roll out closer to early winter. gottlieb is on the board of pfizer, right? he said the company is expected to have data on this age group by the end of the month. >> growing number of americans support vaccine ma

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giuliani and john eastman, this conservative lawyer, to think through how to help president trump get his aim of the ring some of these electors out, moving the election to the house of representatives where republicans because they have control of the most delegations could potentially tip the election to president trump. in a very important beating comes on january fourth where vice president pence and his lawyer and his advisers come in to the oval office. president trump is there with john eastman this conservative lawyer, and for the first time we published this memo that is got a lot of attention, a six part memo from john eastman outlining how mike pence get to what electors and give the election to trump. and you see in the scene president trump saying to try to listen to john eastman. listen to john. listen to john. and eastman has this memo think it's constitutional and legal for pence to essentially walk up on january 6th and then walk away. so this is president trump having a pressure campaign of his own vice president and using the legal conservative community and his all

what we show in our reporting is that on january 2nd, mark meadow, and rudy giuliani are meeting with senator graham, and january 2nd through january 5th, you have a pressure campaign on vice president pence. you have a january 5th meeting in the oval office, dan scavino is in there, and then you have bannon talking with the president on january 5th. so it's not just these two senators who are talking with the president. it's the president actively trying to get pence to throw out the electors on january 6th, to get scavino in one scene of our book to help him to pressure lawmakers to coordinate with him on january 6th and do some kind of move to des-certify biden. the january 6th commission wants to know what was happening january 2nd through 5th as well as on january 6 skand that's wh the committee has cited our book in the subpoena documents. bannon was talking to trump in january, in december, scavino was there work, on the tweets. this was a massive operation on the trump side. >> how much pressure was the former president, then president, actually putting on his aides and others

then there is a scene where he is there, you say, with rudy giuliani, jason miller. it's a war room like setting. they're talking to trump the night of the 5th. and saying very inflammatory things to say the least. i think the january 6 select committee is going to be taking a very close look at the entire book, and at steve bannon's role. >> we came closer to stealing an election than we knew. it was pretty darn close. when you have pence calling dan quayle to find out if he can deny certification, two-thirds voted not to. it's remarkable when you look at the accounts. even closer than we realized. >> jim sciutto, you have a show in 36 minutes. we'll let you get ready for that. jamie, thank you for your reporting on this. >>> speaking of, better call quayle. how the fate of democracy came down to that phone call between two indiana vice presidents. >>> and the plot thickens for a prominent lawyer in south carolina. why police are alleging he went to extremes to plan his own botched shooting next. [slow electronic notes fade in] [fast upbeat music begins] [music stop

giuliani at the time -- who, on primary day everyone was looking forward to turning the page from rudy giuliani's mayoral take and the rest is history. i think in these 20 years, just to add on to what david was just talking about, we've seen a lot of what i think of as one giant step forward and then two giant steps back. one giant step forward was the election of barack obama's president of the united states, first black president. but a huge step back was the election of donald trump as president. another huge step forward, the election of joe biden as president of the united states. another huge step forward, marriage equality. but another huge step back to my mind, one was the fact that even though donald trump lost election, he got 12 million more votes than he did in 2016. so it just highlights the divisions within the country. then the ultimate step back, january 6th. my colleague carlos said this morning on television that how i orange it is that -- how ironic it is that on september 11 there were reports the plane that went down in shanksville was headed to crash into is it c

giuliani and his legal team and republican senators lindsey graham and mike lee. they revealed the two senators while backing trump publicly basically scoffed at giuliani's efforts in private. >> this is not a singular voter fraud in one state. this pattern repeats itself in a number of states. >> reporter: tonight, new indications that then president trump's personal lawyer rudy giuliani and trump's legal team couldn't even convince two of trump's closest allies that the 2020 election results were fraudulent. after the election and before january 6th, goul any met with republican senator and trump loyalist lindy graham at the white house. giuliani sent graham documents which giuliani believed proved his theories, but the claims were so flimsy even graham didn't buy them. that's according to the new book "peril" by bob woodward and robert costa the of "the washington post." their reporting about giuliani and graham excerpted today in "the post." they write while graham publicly backed trump in private he said trump's arguments were, quote, suitable for third grade

she's looking into what rudy giuliani was up to. she is facing pressure to move a little bit quicker. when you talk to other law enforcement officials, other former u.s. attorneys, in georgia they say maybe she should just narrow this and get something done. the longer you let this go on it gets dragged into politics, people's memories get worse as to what happened. >> by the way, it will be the next election, midterms. sara murray, thanks very much. >>> decision day, the fdi -- fdi pardon me. fbi meeting over booster shots. right now one member of the fda committee saying the decision on boosters is being rushed by the white house. more on that next. we welcome change?ppens n we can make emergency medicine possible at 40,000 feet. instead of burning our past for power, we can harness the energy of the tiny electron. we can create new ways to connect. rethinking how we communicate to be more inclusive than ever. with app, cloud and anywhere workspace solutions, vmware helps companies navigate change. faster. vmware. welcome change.

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the problem with what was happening is rudy giuliani had been tasked by then president trump to be in charge of his legal efforts and giuliani was telling the former president what he wanted to hear, sidney powell who for a while was part of that legal effort was telling the former president what he wanted to hear, but it is a window as to how many people around the former president knew what was taking place, was not accurate, was not based in fact and were, you know, sort of had to stand there because the former president was not listening to those who were saying this was a problem, but, yes, it's all documented. >> certainly is. let me get back to that six-step scheme to overturn the u.s. presidential election. you just heard drain's reporting. when you hear the details it's clear that the then vice president mike pence really was the linchpin here, wasn't he? >> no question. look, wolf, to hear that john eastman apparently claimed that this was a preliminary step and he wasn't suggesting that mike pence could just summarily overthrow the election, based on what trump was hearing

was shaving his bikini line. [ laughter ] that's right a video showed rudy giuliani shaving at a restaurant table in jfk airport. to be fair, he thought he was at laguardia. we had some discussion we caught a little flak, baze, from some people here who noted that happened a long time ago. it was like, "oh, that was last week." but come on, guys. [ light laughter ] i know we're going back in time a little bit, but you're going let that happen on our hiatus, and we're just never gonna talk about it [ light laughter ] no no, no, no, no, no the host of the children's show "blue's clues," steve burns, released a video yesterday in honor of its 25th anniversary, but this is weird, just to remind everyone that blue would be long dead by now. [ laughter ] it must be nice to be ian sitting alone in your apartment. "you go say it [ laughter ] i just write it. you say it." and finally, customs officials in texas recently fined a man $500 after he allegedly tried to smuggle more than 300 pounds of bologna and ham over the border. it was a tough day for the smuggler, but a career day for the drug sniff

giuliani and other trump lawyers after the election lindsey graham calling it third grade stuff and here's alex, the statement trump sent to the media. they should be ashamed of themselves for not putting up the fight necessary to win, do the media love it when trump seems to turn on his own allies? >> i think that's always the story that the media likes, but what i would say that these books aren't new, you know, going back to theodore white with the making of the president and back in the 60's you can always have these, you always have these books come after the elections with the anonymous sources in narrative form. it's always usually pretty easy to spot whose cooperated with the books because they happen to tell the anecdotes that make them look good, but i think that in terms of the reporting of this , and the president's response to this , it's kind of a wash because it's a little bit of an insider's game i think for most americans. >> that's an interesting point and i would point out lindsey graham not denying these particular quotes. separately the washington post posted a

rudy giuliani's been there, and he is a swollen testicle he looks like the cartoon they show in a sex ed video "see what happened he forgot to swing forward." [ laughter ] and i think we already have an idea how fauci would handle such a conversation, because he was asked about this scandal on national television, and he actually had to tell people, "no, the vaccine will not make your balls swell up. >> i wouldn't normally even ask you about this, but -- but nicki minaj has nearly 180 million followers on twitter and instagram combined she's beloved by her fans. she's a huge talent, obviously her tweet was seized upon by vaccine opponents as some sort of evidence. i want you to address what she said, because for anyone out there who has any questions about this, dr. fauci, is there any evidence that the pfizer, the moderna, or the j&j vaccines, cause any reproductive issues in men or women >> the answer to that, jake, is a resounding no. there's no evidence that it happens, nor is there any mechanistic reason to imagine that it would happen so the answer to your question is no. >> set

the island is down to rudy giuliani, kevin mccarthy and immediate family members. you have a passage in the "vanity fair" piece about president trump committing to the lies with a straight face. and i encourage everybody to read this piece because he goes off on every conspiracy theory. if you had someone in your family speaking the way he speaks to you, you'd call an emergency meeting and say there's something wrong with dad. what is your sense of whether he believes the garbage he's spewing or needs it to be out there to tell himself or his supporters that he did win? >> willie, it's hard for us as journalists to get inside the head of donald trump, but he repeats the lies again and again so often they might be true in his mind. when you're down there talking to him, there's a distorted reality that he's presenting not only to us but to the dozens of guests that come to mar-a-lago every night for dinner and give him a standing ovation out on the patio at sunset. it's a strange theme down there. when you leave mar-a-lago you realize what's happening in the world i