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we mentioned don winslow tweeted a week ago, does anyone remember consequences? i miss consequences. we're talking about consequences for an attempt to overturn a presidential election. >> and we should remember, brian, what my former colleagues were saying on the day it happened. we had some remarkable speeches given by the likes of mitch mcconnell and lindsey graham on the floor of the senate, saying we've had enough. now, i don't know what happened to their momentary insanity, i mean, they reverted back to cowering, you know, cowards of donald trump's power within their party. but there for a few hours, there was unanimity in congress. it was important to get to the bottom of it. it was important for there to be consequences. mcconnell called out for criminal prosecution of donald trump. so this is not a moment for timidity. and frankly, the saddest thing about this, to me, is that this is not more of a bipartisan effort to get to the bottom of it. i find that incredibly depressing that people i served with are now hiding behind the skirts of donald trump. >>

i want to read this from the author and activist don winslow, who was a guest of ours a few nights back. for the journalists interviewing members of the january 6th committee, three questions. why did it take six months for the committee to be formed? why did it take nine months for your first subpoena? three, why are you doing closed door hearings? but you see there, jon, people want to see punishment. and too many people are dissatisfied because what they're seeing seems plodding. >> senator whitehouse got at a critical question. not just going after the people who literally invaded the capitol building. this went far beyond the insurrection we saw on capitol hill. this was an effort to overturn a presidential election and to seize power. so winslow made three points. i think the first two are very good. the third one on closed hearings, as you know, you have a good investigation is a lot of work behind closed doors before the public hearing commences. a lot of discovery, a lot of gathering of facts. this committee is going to have to have major primetime hearings, televised hearings

. >> susan, don winslow tweeted before we came on tonight, quote, can we bring back consequences, i miss consequences. along those same lines, great point, susan, let's talk consequences pertaining to 1/6 committee. assume most if not all of the big, bold-faced names subpoenaed are going to tell them to pound sand. what about the rights of us, citizens, people concerned that democracy had a very close call and continues to wanting consequences. >> one of the lessons of the trump administration was lack of consequences for defying congressional oversight. does anyone think any of the people subpoenaed will comply with subpoenas tomorrow? i don't think anybody in washington thinks they will. question is what will the committee do about it. will they have immediate criminal referral? seems unlikely to send out sergeant at arms to arrest them and bring them to the capital, even though they did that a century ago. what is at stake is reality of congressional oversight. if by delaying action and defying congress they run out the clock, i think it's their strategy, where does that leave congres

winslow who was a guest of ours a few nights back. for the journalists interviewing members of the january six committee, you should ask three simple questions, one why did it take six months for the january six committee to be formed? to, why did it take nine months to issue your first subpoena? three, why are you doing closed door hearings? mr. winds alone among others believe they should be in primetime open up the drapes and televise it all. you see there john, people want to see punishment and too many people are dissatisfied because what they are seeing seems plotting. >> it's senator whitehouse got in a critical question here, which is not just going after the people that actually literally invaded the capital building. this was something that went far beyond the insurrection that we saw on capitol hill. this was by all means necessary a presidential election and to seize power. what window made three points i think the first two are very good points, i think the third one on closed hearings, as you know, you have a good invest