but again, othering jefferson. that kind of prevailing flavor of hatred changed dramatically during jefferson second term, which included his much hated them 1807 embargo act, which attempted to punish french interference with american trade. not surprisingly, the act had a disastrous impact on the commerce. you can really feel the impact of that hatred in jefferson's hate mail from this period. like the anonymous letter from boston, that read, i have agreed to pay four of my friends 400 dollars to shoot you if you don't take off the embargo, which i shall pay them, if i have to work on my hands and knees for it. you are one of the greatest tyrants in the whole world, worse than bonaparte, i wish you could feel as bad as i feel. with six children around you crying and have starved. that's a profoundly personal kind of an insult there. let specific but clearly bursting with a sense of similar personal outrage and suffering, are two remarkably concise letters, and i'm going to read them. one, read in its entirety, qu

in jefferson's hate mail from this period. like the anonymous letter from boston that read, "i have agreed to pay four of my friends $400 to shoot you if you don't take off the embargo which i saw pay them if i have to work on my hands and knees for it. you're one of the greatest tyrants in the whole world, you're worse than bonaparte, a great deal, i wish you could feel as bad as i feel with six children round you crying for victuals and be half starved yourself." that is a profoundly personal kind of insult there. less specific but clearly bursting with a similar sense of personal outrage and suffering are two remarkably concise letters and i'm going the read them in their entirety. one read in its entirety, quote. you are the damnedest fool that god put life into, god damn you, period. that was it. the other one read, go to hell, you damn booger. go to hell. that was all he said. so that's intense hate. and that's intense hate driven by a policy and the impact it was having particularly in the north. these are people who we

jefferson being an advocate for self-government which has libertarian implications but even jefferson himself assumed washington and hamilton another said unrealistically, that people would internalize a since of their obligations as a collective and then this is jefferson that all citizens would be wearing a mask for enough getting inoculated. of course that is not true in all citizens did not support the war the way they would like. i think the recent question, extremely timely and important. they're not attempting to create a democracy, democracy in the late 18th century throughout this more and throughout the rest of the century is a real positive term. you accuse somebody of being and democrat were in favor of democracy and is not, we created a public pretty things of the public, the public is different from the people in the public is long-term and interest of the people watching any given moment the majority of the people don't see. in the founders believed that we created a society in which the public interest should take precedence over the private interest are the popular in

and certainly among them anything that jefferson that jefferson spoke about democracy was one of them and with the explosion of the french revolution. and then with the presidential mansion so that moment was very real. and then came the presidential election of 1800. with the polarization came to a peak. then with a time of extreme polarization effort like a turning point. before and after the election of 1800 on the conviction that jefferson described by federalist as a french loving infidel radical way take the nation at this key moment of decision down a path of destruction. this was grounded on predictions and symbolism and ideology and campaign rhetoric rather than any actual actions he had a chance to take as president and you can see the free-floating us versus them hatred within the first year as president like the one informing jefferson of the assassination plot brewing in new york and as he often wrote shocking nothing seems to have come of it but jefferson sees that not long after becoming president but then a little bit after that that referred to among other things you

jefferson's second term. american shipping experts in attempt to punish french and english interference with american trade. not surprisingly the act had a disastrous impact on the commerce driven north and you could feel, really feel the impact of that hatred. in jefferson's hate mail from this period. like the anonymous letter from boston that read, "i have agreed to pay four of my friends $400 to shoot you if you don't take off the embargo which i saw pay them if i have to work on my hands and kneeses. you are one of the greatest tyrant in the whole world. i wish you could feel as bad as i feel with six children round you crying for victuals and be half starved yourself." that is a profoundly personal kind of insult there. less specific but clearly bursting with a similar sense of personal outrage and suffering are two remarkably concise letters and i'm going the read them in their entirety. one read in its entirety, quote. you are the daumdest fool god put life into you god damn you. period. that was it.

thomas jefferson owned. i figured i should come to you first. >> last time i saw thomas jefferson at the supermarket it was awkward. >> greg: you've seen new york, it's in a hand basket. i'm not as an insult to hell. >> it seems to me that the new excuse for not doing everything is to once again bring up slavery. so we had to get rid of thomas jefferson, because he did what, at the time, was fashion. or was what happened. i hate to even say this, but it's true. there was even black slave owners, because that is what society was. the good news was that, or is, that we didn't do that and it didn't take us -- we moved past it. in record time. look at the other places on this world, how long they dealt with slavery, centuries. for eons. we got our stuff together relatively quick. i think it's hilarious, why are you getting rid of thomas jefferson? well, he owned. okay, so jordan don't like george washington has to go, pretty much everyone has to go. it's better to say you did that then help one sick mental perso

does the jefferson statue removal go too far? do you think it's just the beginning for how the country locks at statues of the u.s. founding fathers? >> qulong -- i don't think it goes too far. certainly jefferson had a place in our history. but i don't believe he should have a place in the highest order. public statues are such places. i'm not surprised that we're having this debate in a society where we have a history of racial discrimination and oppression, and we've now said we want to prevent that. it's not surprising that people are reevaluating their heroes. but in this reevaluation process, it's got to be more sophisticated. former president trump said all the founders are the same. they all supported slavery. and that's just not true. some founders supported it. some founders did not. some founders owned slaves. some did not. so today we have to be more sophisticated in our evaluation. there are founders that opposed slavery publicly like george white, a friend of thomas jefferson's, and he should be in a position of hig

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jefferson was a busy man in 1776. he oversaw multiple committees regarding canadian affairs, drew up the rules and regulations for congressional debates, and participated in other matters. moreover, virginia was operating with a skeleton delegation, providing little opportunity to spread the work around. nevertheless, adam urged jefferson, as busy as he was, to pen the draft, as it would be better for a more measured southern gentleman rather than a divisive independent minded new englander to take the lead in drafting the declaration. as time was of the essence, jefferson drew heavily from two sources, the preamble of his draft of the virginia constitution, and the recently enacted virginia declaration of rights. jefferson's preamble included many of the grievances against king george that ultimately appeared in the declaration. likewise, the virginia declaration of rights already had declared men equally free and independent, and endowed with the inherent rights, including the right to pursue and obtain happiness an

. >>> the importance of removing the thomas jefferson statue because of his ties to slavery. both sides weighing in. >>> the woman caught on camera, what she allegedly refused to do. >>> and a decision about the hooters uniforms at restaurants. and punishing children for bad behavior. to a 900-year-old weapon found at sea. today is tuesday, october 19th. >>> good tuesday morning, everyone. we begin with breaking news about the american missionaries and children kidnapped in haiti. >> we learning about a possible ransom demand. the gang that kidnapped the group is demanding $17 million, o $1 million for each captive. it's 16 americans and a canadian working with an ohio-based aid group. marcus moore is in haiti. >> reporter: the white house says president biden has been receiving constant updates on the situation here. and officials confirm to abc news that the fbi has made contact with the gang, the 400ma 400marussu gang. the implications are unclear. this is a delicate situation. >> the names of the victims have not been released. they reportedly include five members from a

we reached out to the great, great grandson of jefferson davis. he's trying to reclaim his family legacy from those who see davis as a hero of white supremacy. the night before our meeting, we slept in the vicksburg home of davis. jefferson's brother in mentor. >> you say you're a davis descendant in mississippi, you better be ready. it brings responsibility. people are assuming you're going to be a davis. somebody asked me why i don't dress up like him. >> hayes davis still holds on to artifacts from his great, great grandfather. a book he signed. a letter he sent. a chair he sat in. is there more residents with something that you own van something in a public square? >> to me, yes, absolutely. because it is handed down. this chair is his remembrance to me. a confederate statue, when those folks put that up, had a reference to them. >> how do you balance or reconcile or wrestle with the dual narratives around jefferson davis? one that we've all heard is the first and only president of the confederacy. on the other hand, they're 52 years of his li

in philadelphia, congress passed jefferson and his committee of five tasked jefferson and his committee of five to prepare the first job draft of the declaration of independence. jefferson submitted the committee's draft to congress a little more than two weeks after receiving the assignment. john adams later recounted that jefferson had drafted the document and only a couple of days. jefferson was a bc man in june, in 1776. he oversaw multiple committees regarding canadian affairs, drew up the rules and regulations for a congressional debate, and participated in other matters. moreover, for julio was operating with a skeleton delegation providing little opportunity to spread the work around. nevertheless, adam urged jefferson, as busy as he was, to pin the draft, as it would be better for a more measured southern gentleman rather than a divisive independent minded new england or to take the lead in drafting and promoting the jet declaration. as time is of the essence as time goes of the, fifth essence, javelin drew from two sources, the preamble of his job for the virginia constitution

jefferson davis is essentially hello can i come to montgomery just to have a chat and jefferson davis says -- and this begins the most important and pivotal the relationship of beauregard's life. he's very impressed with beauregard. he knows his reputation for mexico. beauregard went over secretary of worley wright hoped walker was overwhelmed with the job he has for him. beauregard is asking an unofficial adviser and they will send them to charleston south carolina where you have the crisis of fort sumter. this is one of several brilliant personnel moves the davis does with low regard. he not only had the engineering field for this but have the personality for this because he's a man that becomes a aristocratic of pedigree very charming and over-the-top rhetoric and he feels it will rally the people of charleston and he is absolute correct. beauregard knows -- he does very well at fort sumter. the ford folsom overgaard is the premier military hero in command of the largest army in virginia to time the one he would lead to victory at all run at this time p.g.t. beauregard is the confe

maybe next year the balance will tip against jefferson or another historical figure but deblasio knows this is a disaster and probably wants it rips down. >> your 100% right. he is someone it is really behind this. he appointed all the people to this public design commission so there's no tearing down a statue without bill deblasio's go ahead but the city council which is where the statute is located, in 2018 honored a haitian founding father who massacred 5000 men, women and children a french colonials or just because characters are complex isn't necessarily a problem for city council and city government, just seems to work left is only focused on a certain class of people, people that probably did more than anyone else to make the country what it is, the founding fathers and we are left at this juncture where history is being literally torn from a building which has stood for almost 200 years. >> they want the country taken down. other than george floyd statues and a few other figures there is no one left. thank you, great to see you. we will be watching on monday. adversities crumbl

i'll speak to my views on thomas jefferson. he's a complex figure. he's such a profound part of our history. that needs to be seen, that needs to be respected. the part that is troubling needs to be seen and addressed as well. >> laura: wonder what your failing will be addressed. that's my question. he's complex. joining me now, joe barelli. this is a disgrace wrapped in an outrage. coming from all people, de blasio, who has taken a wrecking ball to the new york any. >> right. in a weird way, he's right. jefferson is a very larger than life character in our american history. but no one on the preserve statue side is trying to take jefferson out of the context that he was a slave owner or that slavery is bad. what the left is trying to do is rewrite history and tear down statues erasing his legacy on american history. by the way, laura, the republic that he helped founding is working out well for people, the freedom of rights, freedom of press, freedom of having troops in your house. it worked out well for new yorkers. that's why he was given a spot i

plus, thomas jefferson is officially canceled. yes. founding father, principal author of the declaration of president hundred independence, third president finally takes his place next to the tyrants of history. new york city lawmakers decide to tear down his statutes and he embodies "some of the most shameful parts of our country's history. hello and welcome to the wall street journal at large. we will discuss with our panel. first, we have alarming side this week that we are in the early stages of a new cold war. more alarming still like the last one, we could be losing this one. on october 4, 1957, america woke to one of the biggest shocks in american history. the soviet union had launched the first satellite in space. it shattered the idea that the u.s. had passed technological superiority over its rival. rethink about u.s. capabilities and strategic capabilities. we had another moment. in the financial times first reporting, the people's republic of china had successfully tested a nuclear capable hypersonic missile. it projected i

tyler once had dinner with thomas jefferson not long after he graduated from william and mary. jefferson impressed upon him that a successful politician, particularly an virginia needed to establish himself in the legal profession. in fact a legal career jefferson said to the young man was a virtual prerequisite to a political career. so, much like there's no doubt he would attend william and mary became pretty apparent is going to pursue a legal career. shortly after he graduated his father and another tyler relative took him on his legal apprentice. a little bit later when judge tyler was elected governor of virginia could no longer supervise his son's legal studies, edmund randolph stepped in. randolph had been attorney general under george washington and really presented young tyler with a challenging way to approach the law. tyler passed the bar in 1809 at the age of 19. now this is interesting because in virginia the law at the time they do had to be at least 21 years of age to pass the bar exam. to even sit for the bar exam. but apparently the examiner could not ask tyle

thomas jefferson is for. those are the four presidents that had an average score of it being a great president. the near greats were theodore roosevelt, woodrow wilson, andrew jackson, and harry truman. i think the bottom to her interests include john adams and lyndon johnson. we are not going to see these presidents on other rankings. perhaps this is a partly because in this study, scholars and tended to more presidents that served in the era in which they did their research. so, if you did research on colonial america and the early american republic to be more likely to think john adams was a great president. we, today, perhaps harshly criticize him. the act criminalized as the united states is gearing up for a potential war with france, it was entirely political on adam's opponents that were affiliated with jefferson. lyndon johnson, another president who is certainly going to be a controversial one. they generally like his domestic policies but find a lot to desire in his prosecution of the vietnam war wh

and washington, adams and jefferson, the three presence and sometimes i can identify as a presidential historian and don't think of myself as a presidential historian, i'm a historian of healing and everything about it the 31st presidents. at any rate, he let me write the way that i wanted to and i think teaching in the liberal arts college allowed me to work on this in a way that aimed at a general spread instead of just the other group of professional historians. that's probably too long of an answer but there you go david pretty. >> husband through some of the key points in your book and i remind everybody that i'll be asking questions for another 20 minutes or so and then about tenants or so where you can have your questions submitted in the chat room and i will breed them subsequently when we get that. leaving by the cause, why did you call your book and cause wanted that phrase come from. "the cause". >> that's an obvious good question. in the early stages of the war for american independence, nobody would've called it the market revolution and the british call it the american re

these are my friends. >> so this week's at jefferson award in the bay area goes to jack fleeman . >> congratulations, jack. if you would like to nominate a quiet hero for a jefferson award, please go to cbsn and provide details about that person's community service. >>> >>> starting today, you can drive through the tunnel of terror at extreme carwash in san jose. >> it cost $ve dollaron to st. jude's te carwash through halloween day. >> i like it. pretty crve >> ceos are fielding questions about climate change and how they are defending themselves against claims they misled the public to make a profit coming up at 3:00. >>> all right, here is a beautiful live look at our roof cam. our temperatures are warmer compared to yesterday at this time so above average for this time of year. san fransisco and san jose slightly cooler for this friday. we are going to stay dry through the weekend looking great for halloween. rain chances pickup for next monday. looking slightly cooler for your friday still mild in the 60s and 70s for halloween, you can see the temperatures in the 50s and 60s and

and finally, new york city thomas jefferson is the latest statue to be removed all while a new statue on wall street might make you think the city has gone bananas. i'm sky now use and we're going to give you the 360 view of these stories. and today's news is huge, right here on our t america ah, associates our top story, an f b i rayed on the washington dc mansion connected to a russian oligarch, omega dera, pasco, faren font. jack joins us with all the details full. it was an eventful tuesday morning here outside the home of all like dairy pasco, right? i could see f b, i. agents are still coming through his 5th to $1000000.00 mansion here on the northwest side in dc for money. they don't know this name, but for some they remember was tied with paul mana for the former campaign. chairman of donald trump, who was convicted on fraud charges and then eventually pardoned by donald trump in his final month and office not just from the candidate according to an f. b. i spokeswoman agents were conducting a quote, court authorized law enforcement activity, but didn't provide any more detail

and finally, new york city thomas jefferson is the latest statue to be removed all while a new statue on wall street might make you think the city has gone bananas. i'm sky now use and we're going to give you a 360 view of these stories. and read a news use huge right here on our to america. ah, by birth with our top story, an f b i rayed on the washer. inducing mansion connected to a russian oligarch. although a darrow pasco, ferren fraud. zag joins us with all the details for it was an eventful tuesday morning here outside the home of o, like dairy pasco, right? i could see f b i. agents are still coming through his $15000000.00 mansion here on the north, west side of d. c. for money, they don't know this name, but for some they are member who is tied with paul man, a 4th, a former campaign chairman of donald trump, who was convicted on fraud charges and then eventually pardoned by donald trump. in his final month, an office lunch is going to be today. according to an f. b i spokeswoman agents were conducting a quote, court authorized long foresman activity, but didn't provide any m

but it is today so you are saying a lot of stadium credit parties typical fundraisers of jefferson and jackson dinner and many of them have moved to change their name feeling associated dinner with slaveowners like jefferson and jackson is not projecting them to be the inclusiveness that they want today. and can we really understand what is likely president, present, this the monday morning quarterback problem and i watched the dolphins on sunday as you all know, there was an interception and acclaim him and i will get really upset that i have no idea what i'm talking about and never played quarterback in nfl and i do not know why he would do that interception is actually the receiver who was in the wrong place in the defense disguised their coverage so the coaches need to be blamed so i really can't blame him for that interception and simile can we really blame the president for any of their failures. we don't know the pressures they were under and how decisions were made and we don't know what information they have the time that they had to ask. so it might be unfair of us to pass ju

one point is clear, the vote is in, and the jefferson statue is out. the vote coming from the public design commission which basically oversees all of the public art throughout the city. some 700 pieces of art. this is the body that took the vote yesterday, 8-0, basically on behalf of the city council's black, latino, and asian members. again, as you guys say, the statue has been inside the council chambers here at city hall since 1915 for more than 100 years, but over the course of the past several years, there's been a real debate about jefferson's history. most people know him as one of the founding fathers, the author of the declaration of independence uniting the colonies, but he was also a slave owner throughout his life, he owned some 600 slaves throughout his life. also at one point wrote about white superiority over blacks. and so given the totality of his history, that's the reason why the council finally deciding and saying, look, this statue needs to be removed. as you can imagine, there's been a lot of debate, a lot of passionate feelings