but kabul is not the whole country. other regions, we are getting reports of women with much greater difficulties for what they are wearing, pressure to give up jobs, thrown off airwaves completely. and so provinces, there are no female voices allowed anymore. and those we speak to in kabul, they believe it is a matter of time. for now, with the taliban unable to sort of the economy and international aid missing and not making sure people are fed in kabul, they are waiting for the economic situation to improve before they impose the more oconee and social measures. -- more draconian social measures. so no security for the women here, the relatively open situation right now, a limbo between the old situation and new, and they are expecting worse to come. anchor: nick connolly reporting from kabul. thank you. here is a look at some other stories making news around the world. so-called islamic state has claimed responsibility for sunday's explosion in kabul. the blast killed several civilians at a mosque during a funeral f

translation: life in kabul- was good and it was going well. we had freedom and we could do anything we wanted. we would go to work. we would study. we had identity. but now it is different. hey! cut your camera! suddenly, we're interrupted. women, it seems, are no longer allowed to eat in restaurants. switch off the camera. the women slip away quietly. the men appear to be working undercover for the taliban to inform on those who break the rules. nargis is determined to speak and wants to meet again, but, this time, in a less public place. translation: the taliban say there's no problem. i "we are not the taliban of the past." "we'll allow women to work and study." but it's all a lie. nargis is also an actor and model. translation: well, at the moment, everything has stopped. we can't work. we aren't even allowed to attend university. every day, the situation is getting worse. for example, until a few days ago, only taliban soldiers had arrived. just in the last two days, their intelligence and the vice and virtue branches have also arrived, w

if you take over mazar-i-sharif, it's mean you can take kabul without anything, peacefully. this is what has happened with the taliban. they took over the north because they knew, once they took the north, it's mean they took the entire country. >> narratothe taliban's new head of media for the north escorted najibullah through the region. he was quick to convey optimism. >> (speaking pashto): >> (speaking pashto): ♪ ♪ >> narrator: this region holds special significance for the taliban. they fought fierce battles against the u.s. here 20 years ago. najibullah was taken to a fortress outside the city, where they were eager to show him something. >> (speaking pashto): (men speaking dari) >> (speaking dari): >> (speaking dari): >> (speaking dari): >> (speaking dari): >> narrator: it was a trip back in time for najibullah, who was here filming in 2001 when the u.s. controlled the fort and taliban prisoners staged a bloody uprising. it lasted three days and ended in the deaths of hundreds of taliban. >> this area was, all the taliban were lying everywhere. they're handcuffed

there, more than 40 in kabul. i'm sure other organizations similarly know of such americans who are still there. >> thank you, senator. senator cotton, please. >> thank you. general milley, it's your testimony that you recommended 2,500 troops, approximately, stay in afghanistan? >> as i've said many times before this committee and other committees, i don't share my personal recommendations to the president, but i can tell you my personal opinion and assessment if that's what you want. >> yes, please. >> yes, my assessment was, back in the fall of 2020, and consistent throughout that we keep 3500 in order to move toward a negotiated, gated solution. >> did you ever present that assessment personally to president biden? >> i don't discuss exactly what my conversations are with the sitting president in the oval office, but i can tell you what my personal opinion is, and i'm always candid. >> general, do you share that assessment? >> i do share that assessment. >> did you ever share that personally with president bid

he said the enemy is now in charge in kabul. do you share that view? >> well, i think there is a lot of anger and a lot of resentment about what has happened there. i think with regard to terrorism, we largely have achieved our directive. on the issue of building a democratic afghanistan, i think that did not succeed. the struggle goes on. the reality of afghanistan, we did not defeat the taliban. in fact, they were making progress on the battle field, even as we were negotiating with them. and the reason we negotiated with them was because militarily things were not going as well as we would have liked. we were losing ground each year. >> brennan: they were winning the war. >> slowly but making progress. and for us to reverse the progress that they were making was going to require a lot more effort. >> brennan: how many americans remain in afghanistan today? >> we aren't sure, the frank answer is, because not every american-- some of them of afghan-americans who have families there, who live there. >> brennan: it's hundreds, isn't it? >> i think it's

we would have had to declare kabul of the 6,000 taliban that were already in kabul. that's what would have happened beginning on the 1st. it would have put u.s. casualties on the american side and it would have put civilians that are still there at greater risk. so on the 25th we recommended we switch to a diplomatic option on the 31st. >> general milley, you said that the toll ban had not lived up to the terms of the agreement. give me a rough date of when they first breached terms of the agreement. you said they were not living up to the terms of the doha agreement. what was the first evidence they were not living up to the terms of the agreement? >> the memo was signed on 29 february, so really through the fighting season of february 2020. >> so more than a year ago. >> absolutely. sure. >> i don't buy the idea that this president was bound by a decision made by a prior president. this was not a treaty. and clearly the taliban were not living up to it. this president could have reaffirmed conditions and completely changed the timeline. he's not bound by the presid

was fear as the taliban were coming into kabul. and then there was an opportunity where a message spread across afghanistan like wildfire that anyone who can make it to the airport will be taken to the united states. so you had this massive rush of thousands and thousands of people to the airport and with though scenes. nobody was of the view this was very positively done. in terms of the logistics of getting everybody out, there's no suggestion that any other power could do what we need, but if you look at the totality, it was obviously very undesirable. >> next on "gps," i will ask ambassador khalilzad about the complete collapse of the kabul regime and takeover by the taliban. how did this happen so fast, when we come back. 80% get genetically meaningful health info from their 23andme dna reports. 80%. that's 8 out of 10 people who can get something enlightening. something empowering. something that could change everything. info that could give you greater control of your own health, and it's right there in your dna. so, if 80%

the enemy is in kabul. so you have a strategic failure while you simultaneously have an operational and tactical success by the storages ground. so i think we're conflating some things that we need to separate in this after-action review process so we clearly understand what has happened. i'm sorry for taking all that time, but i thought it was necessary. >> thank you, senator hawley. senator kelly, please. >> thank you, mr. chairman. mr. secretary, let me begin by expressing my gratitude to each of the 8,000 americans who served over the past 20 years. i also commend our support of one of the largest airlifts in our country's history we will never forget the achievements of the men and women who worked 14/7 in kabul, managed impossible conditions on the ground, and above all, those who made the ultimate sacrifice protecting innocent civilians. 124,000 people are safe today because of american troops and diplomats. still, after decades of conflict, 2500 american soldiers killed, and bills invested in securi

there was fear as the taliban were coming into kabul. and then there was an opportunity where a message spread across afghanistan like wildfire that anyone would can make it to the airport will be taken to the united states. so you had this massive rush of thousands and thousands of people to the airport and with though seeds, nobody was of the view this was very positively done. in terms of the logistics of getting everybody out, there's no suggestion that any other power could do what we need, but if you look at the totality, it was obviously very undesirable. >> next on "gps," i will ask kbaed zalmay khalilzad about the complete collapse of the regime and takeover by the taliban. how did this happen so fast, when we come back. one of the many reasons you're with amex platinum. ♪ ♪ there are beautiful ideas that remain in the dark. but with our new multi-cloud experience, you have the flexibility you need to unveil them to the world. ♪ ♪ your new pharmacy is here. to help you compare prices, and save on your medication. amazon

our reporter is in kabul. reporter: another flight took off today towards qatar carrying some 200 people on board. there are occasional charter flights, not regular commercial flights taking people out of afghanistan towards qatar and others to pakistan. but the waiting lists are very long. the afghan cricket team among others was on board. but there are many, many people still desperately trying to get on those lists. and you can see the sense of desperation still, because the passport office here in kabul reopened yesterday, and there are huge crowds that have been gathering their. it seems reminiscent of those we saw around the international airport in kabul, just before the americans pulled out. people leaving their papers, desperate to get out. people we interviewed regularly after, ask advice about how they can leave the country. and other people we have met here have been selling off their belongings, their furniture, their beds and children toys. there are markets, unofficial markets that have sprung u

you are seeing the inability of the taliban to turn kabul. ev though me reasonable -- regional countries have visited kabul. instead, they are using venues outside of afghanistan to interact with the international community. >>pressure today did not offer to recognize the taliban as of afghanistan. it did say it plans to hold the taliban responsible for keeping terrorist out of afghanistan and letting history repeat itself. which is more likely, that the taliban would allow terrorists to come back, or, a country like russia would keep its word and punish afghanistan? >>i think it would be very foolish and risky for the taliban to allow any transnational terrorist group that aims to destabilize the reason -- the region or attack any country in the region or beyond the region, they have given a pledge as of two years ago to the international community, including the russians, the iranians, and the americans, that they would not allow groups like al qaeda and i.s. k or iss to operate out of afghanistan and be a threat to central asia, the middle

kabul is a very different place from the rest of afghanistan. in the urban areas in afghanistan like kabul or iraq or mazhar sharif, there is the lot of women and girls has come a long long way. they're able to go to school. they can take jobs and lead important positions in the government. i don't want to minimize that. in rural areas i think we were overreaching a bit for imposing our own values for what afghans were ready for. that has to come from them, in part, and this is something that we wrestled with but again we never really sorted out what we were hoping to accomplish, what was our purpose for being there, and while there was progress made, now that we lost the war what is going to happen? >> speaking of what's going to happen, let's get a little bit into what has just happened. president biden has expressed in recent days that lock, it was impossible to get out without some kind of chaos. and karina asks if this was true. is there any way they could have avoided this chaotic exit? >> i think they could have planned better, no questio

five days later we abandoned the embassy in kabul. do you think it sent a signal to the afghan national defense forces that we were out of there and they could not depend on us anymore? and was that part of the -- was the abandonment of the embassy part of the troop withdrawal plans? secretary kahl: it was not part of the plan. the embassy was evacuated once the andsf collapsed. starting on our about august 11 you saw the taliban entering kabul. it evaporated. president ghani left the country on the 15th and we moved our diplomats to the airport. senator wicker: general mingus, two took the vast majority of the casualties in combat from, say, 2014 to the abandonment of kabul? general mingus: the afghan national security forces. senator wicker: do you think it's fair they suggest we cannot instill the will to fight, is that a fair statement, general? general mingus: i agree how the secretary and -- when we talked about this very topic during their testimony. the leadership and will to fight when we pulled off at the tactical level from

with the taliban now in power in kabul. although the neo was unprecedent and the largest air evacuation in history, it was a tactical operational and logistical success evacuating 124,000 people. the war was a strategic failure. it came also at an incredible cost in the end, with 11 marines, one soldier and a navy corpsman. these 13 gave their lives so that people they never met would have an opportunity to live in freedom. and we have to remember the taliban was and remains a terrorist organization and still have not broken with al qaeda. i have no illusions who we are dealing with. it remains to be seen whether or not the taliban can consolidate power or if the country will further fraction into civil war. but we must continue to protect the united states of america and its people from terrorist attacks coming from afghanistan. a reconstituted al qaeda or isis with aspirations to attack the united states is a very real possibility. and those conditions to include activity in ungoverned spaces could present themselves in t

thank you for joining us on the latest updates about that blast in kabul and the situation there. thank you for joining us on newsday. let's take a look at some of the other stories in the headlines. nine people have died in a tropical cyclone that's battered parts of the close of oman and iran. six people were killed in the southeast of the country while thousands have been evacuated from coastal areas in oman. hundreds of people in mexico city have taken part in marches in protest against the recent court ruling that decriminalised abortion. many of the protesters carried placards. supreme court rules that criminal penalties for abortion was unconstitutional. a plan if by one of romania's which is men crashed, killing the billionaire and seven others. witnesses said the plane were already on fire before it an empty building in a nearby town. 's main's prime minister says the government will superbright more than 300 million in aid — — spain's prime minister. scientists have recorded eight new earthquakes and say the activity remains intense almost two weeks after the resurre

kabul is a very different place from the rest of afghanistan. never really sort it out. what were we hoping to accomplish, what was our purpose for being there, and while there was progress made in many regards, the whole question is now that we lost the war, what's going to happen? >> let's get a little bit into what just happened. president biden has expressed in recent days that, look, it was impossible to try and get out without some degree of chaos. this was always going to be the case. and karina asks if this was true? would there have been a better way that the biden administration could have avoided this chaotic exit from afghanistan? >> they could have planned better, no question. they clearly were caught off guard by how quickly the taliban was able to take over provincial capitals and really just march into kabul without any resistance. they clearly were not ready for that. i think intelligence assessments show the biden administration thought they had at least a few months, if not longer, that the afghan government and army could hold out. they weren't prepar

it was a map of kabul. we would ask the taliban to stay outside but we would not threaten then we felt is the best way but on the day of the meeting they were already in tdowntown kabul and then to have your thoughts on this and then fearing the fall on baghdad the centcom commander was defending those positions the effort was to reconstitute what about early august before the fall of kabul? certainly we considered what we need to do to protect the embassy and what can we do to buy time for the operation to take place? >> chairman millie yesterday you said you were asked on auguh to make a decision about the at deadline. was there ann actual formal request to stay past august 31t that you were taken into account in that decision. >> i don't make decisions. >> with a formal request to the taliban i am very familiar with the advice be provided. >> before the fall of kabul do we have the taliban agreement. >> what you mean by a formal but. >> is there a point the united states went to the taliban and prior toa

the washington post has had bureau in kabul ever since 2001 and so have other newspapers. the wire services like the associated press and reuters have covered things diligently and a lot of people put themselves at real risk to do so. i don't want to minimize that but could we have done a better job, sure, absolutely. but i don't know that we failed. >> we have -- i'm going to sneak in one last question. i was struck from the very beginning that both your reporting in the post and afghanistan papers and the book, you know, has genesis and that impulse is wonderful that the military officials and diplomatic officials would -- would want to, you know, get that down to assess what they have learned. what do you think we have learned, what are the lessons learned from the afghan war? >> i don't know that we learned them. i think maybe we learned that we don't want to get into over our head and take on enormous ambitious security projects to remake countries overseas particularly countries we don't understand very well. i think maybe there's some humility and order here and i t

brian mckeon: well, senator, the people who volunteer to go to kabul kabul or worked during the crisis i think felt they did the best they could and managed to save a lot of lives, but i know a lot of people who came back from kabul airport who are undergoing an emotional toll about the experience they went through. i think many people in the department served in afghanistan over 20 years, so there's an array of emotions about what was invested and what was lost. sen. young: how can we possibly say that we are better face -- equipped to base diplomatic challenges? brian mckeon: we are investing substantial sums in human resources both at the defense department and usaid which in some respects was an opportunity cost. i remember in the obama administration in which i served, president obama constantly asking the question, what am i getting for $20 billion to $40 billion a year and what is the opportunity cost of that? ultimately the strategic shift away from afghanistan allowing us to focus on the priority you started with, the response to china will be to our benefit. sen. menendez: se

further away from kabul, most are not uniford. and we've seen in places, for instance, that they've done public hangings, which has not taken place in kabul. so, overall, it seems that they are following orders very strictly. and, you know, it's the nature of an insurgent movement that they are extremely disciplined. >> sreenivasan: one of the big concerns has been the fate of those afghans who helped american forces that are still stuck in the country. i know there are volunteers from around the country here who are still working to try to get them out. >> it's very difficult to get out of afghanistan. essentially, the land borders are closed to afghans to cotries like central asia, iran, pakistan. flights are not properly going. there are few flights which are heavily booked out and extremely expensive, unaffordable for most ordinary afghans, and the taliban is reluctant to see a further exodus of people. >> sreenivasan: you had also reported a little earlier about the kind of economic and humanitarian crisis that is facing the

he was just 20 years old when he lost his life in the terrorist attack at the airport in kabul. lance corporal schmitz and the 12 others we lost in august went above and beyond the call of duty to protect those stranded in afghanistan. i sadly don't believe we will truly understand why lance corporal schmitz and his fellow soldiers died. nevertheless, their families and all americans deserve answers, mr. speaker, and those who made the decisions that resulted in the senseless deaths will be held accountable. in the meantime, i am grateful for their service and their sacrifice that is being commemorated by this legislation. the bravery and valor shown by these service members are unquestionable, and i hope my colleagues will join me in supporting this bill. and i look forward to standing next to the family of lance corporal schmitz as they're presented with a congressional gold medal, commemorating their son's service and valor. i thank you, mr. speaker. and i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman from missouri reserves. the gentlewoman from cal

the owe cuss has shifted to kabul and the doorstep of kabul. they project themselves as being able to provide security and stability. here their core, their leadership level they have been targeted. >> nic robertson joining us live from abu dhabi. many thanks. >>> just ahead here on cnn, the fight to save the planet. why some activists worry that the upcoming u.n. summit will do little than deliver the same old empty promises. neuroscientist. and i love the science behind neuriva plus. unlike ordinary memory supplements, neuriva plus fuels six key indicators of brain performance. more brain performance? yes, please! neuriva. think bigger. got directv stream. now we can watch live tv and on demand. serena... scary movie... serena... scary movie... serena williams ready to serve. ahh! quiet, please. triple match point serena williams... this is her moment. ahh! quiet, please. ahh! quiet, please! get your tv together with the best of live and on demand. introducing directv stream, with no annual contract. ♪ fixodent ultra dual power provides you

anchor: we have an update from kabul. reporter: officials have been saying to the shia community they are not in danger and they will provide security for the shias in afghanistan, about 20% of the population. but those we have spoken to at mosques in kabul say they are extremely concerned about security. we visited two mques thatave both been targeted by deadly blasts in recent years, and they still have very tight security. people in the community are extremely worried about their security. they were telling that in the past they were very concerned about the threat of taliban fighters who targeted mosques and neighborhoods. they are also very concerned about the threat from the islamic state in their province. they are aware they could be attacked at any time and they do not el reassured at all about the taliban's statements that they intend to provide security. anchor: moving on, iraq's parliamentary elections will take place on sunday but certain votes have cast their vote two days early, including hospital patients,

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the taliban was south of kabul, the taliban was south of kabul, why didn't he evacuate? if it wasn't too obliterate them and push them back? why didn't he move everybody out when he had full control of kabul and the airport, the perimeter. what would he wait until the taliban took over kabul? >> mr. trump: nobody understands it in the medias covering it. not only fake news, but old news. they're trying to get rid of it. i read a article two days ago where they're shelling the machine guns. the most sophisticated weapons in the world. they are selling these machine guns and guns on the black market. other countries are buying them. they are selling them. you don't need that many, 600 or 700,000 guns, they have night goggles that are better than00 anything we have. the latest model, brand-new, out-of-the-box, never used before. the latest model. all stuff that, you know, very good fighters but they never liked the taliban fighting at night. now they can fight at night. and they can do what they want to do. they have the best. they have the apache helicopters. they have the

shortly before kabul fail, -- fell, he described it as hubris and mendacity. it is an honor for me to introduce john socko. >> let me try to get settled before i break something. can i take this off? otherwise, it will be hard to hear me. thank you for that kind introduction, jeff. also, thank you for the association that invited me today. this is kind of a unique experience. it is kind of novel. because, last time i spoke in person, live, to a live audience was back in march 10, 2020. up at syracuse university. i gave a speech that day governor cuomo closed the university and state. it must have been a good speech. i am back. 10,000 zoom meetings later, it is great to be back live. it is kind of weird to speak to people wearing pants. as many of you know, cigar just issued its 53rd quarterly report to congress. this quarterly report is unique too. it is the first one issued in our 12 year existence. when there are no u.s. troops or anybody in the usmc, actually, there is no u.s. embassy there in afghanistan. those who have you who have followed our work know

in fact this happened just a few days after the huge terrorist attack on the kabul airport that claimed the lives of more than 100 people, mostly afghans, but also 13 us servers members. they had been following the car, believing it to be full of explosives and about to be taken to the airport, but then they later acknowledged that it was a huge mistake. the drone attack, the drone strike, claimed the lives of some ten people, seven children, and the mistake of the us military was acknowledged as a terrible and tragic mistake because the driver of that car had in fact been an aid worker, and somebody you had nothing to do with the islamic state. so what the pentagon is saying is that they will pay what they are describing as condolence payments to the family of those who died and they will also help those members of the family who have expressed an interest in relocating to the united states. the state department is involved in that as well. there was an initial virtual meeting just a few days ago between officials at the pentagon and the organisation that employed the driver, the aid o

we can turn to afghanistan now, where reports from kabul| now, where reports from kabul say that taliban fighters have launched attacks on suspected islamic date hideouts. hours after a blast outside a mosque killed eight people. some residents said they heard an explosion followed by heavy gunfire. earlier, iasked our self asia editorfor the gunfire. earlier, iasked our self asia editor for the latest on the blast. 50 self asia editor for the latest on the blast.— on the blast. so far, this blast outside _ on the blast. so far, this blast outside of - on the blast. so far, this blast outside of a - on the blast. so far, this. blast outside of a mosque on the blast. so far, this - blast outside of a mosque in kabul, one of the biggest in the eastern part of the city. a day earlier, the taliban had announced that there would be a memorial service for the late mother of the taliban spokesperson. what is striking is it came only yesterday, there was a bomb attack on this gathering and reached many taliban members. several people had been injured and the casualties are likely to go up, acc

>> reports from kabul. how do world leaders help the afghan people when no government has formally recognized the taliban as rulers of afghanistan? take the u.s.. an american delegation was in doha for the very first face-to-face meetings between top u.s. and taliban officials since u.s. troops left afghanistan on august 31. president biden s at the virtual meeting today. joining us is the bbc state department correspondent. it seems like the eu are sitting down with the taliban, so is the u.s.. his official recognition of the taliban rule coming? >> no, not anytime soon. the u.s. and the eu have been very clear these meetings are not about recognizing the taliban, not about confirming legitimacy. it will depend on actions on counterterrorism, human rights, especially when it comes to women d girls. freedom of travel for those who want to leave. they say they are having pragmatic talks on tactical issues, not strategic issues. the u.s. moved its embassy from afghanistan to ohio and qatar because the taliban

we would have had to clear kabul. we would have had to re-seize bagram in the 30 miles of road in between bagram, and kabul. that would have taken a significant force, core operation. we probably, my guess, we would have had significant amounts killed and wounded. exact numbers are always imprecise. the remaining american citizens would have been at greater risk. >> you mentioned we would have had to retaken kabul. they had 6,000 troops. as i remember discussions in the committee when we were talking about retaking mosul, the generally accepted rule of thumb is it takes ten troops to dislodge one in a city. dislodging troops in a city is very difficult, and takes a large number of attacking troops. is that correct? >> it is, but the disposition and composition was not the same as isis and mosul. in m osu l, they were dug in and ready to go. the taliban had just moved in. it would have been not that level of fight that you saw in mosul but still would have been significant. you're in an urban area of about 5 million pe

ironically, it was released by sheer coincidence right before kabul fell. the 17 lessons we identified and which i am happy to expound upon in the question period are instructive not only were afghanistan, but it is for anywhere else we might try to undertake a similar project again, and they formed the basis of our ongoing work in answering the questions from congress. while sigar has identified these key lessons, there is without question much more to be learned as we dig into what happened in washington and kabul during the months, weeks, days, and hours for the taliban walked into its palace. i hope we will have cooperation from every corner of the u.s. government as we undertake this work. i dare anyone to say that these matters are no longer important. sigar's twitter content was accessed 2.2 one million times in august, 2.2 million times in august, demonstrating that the american tax paper -- taxpayer not only deserve answers but they demand answers. we await to the families of americans who lost their lives supporting that mission in afghanistan, to

presence and their own government in kabul? why did so many in the american media seem to screw this story up so badly over two decades? >> well, it's important to understand that afghanistan like any country is a multi faceted complex diverse country. the war in the last two decades wasn't fought across the country but only certain provinces and in those areas, it's difficult to enter. part of the reason is because the taliban were kidnapping journalists and part of the reason is there was nobody there that spoke english, the culture was different from the big cities like kabul. for all of us in the media, it was easier sometimes to be in kabul or in major cities and talk to people who perhaps were of a wealthier background, middle or upper class afghans similar to us. at the same time, those areas didn't see conflict. if we just reported from those regions, the last six months or three months would have not made any sense. why did the afghan army suddenly collapse and fall to the taliban? but if you look from the countryside,

imtiaz tyab, cbs news, kabul. >> the grand mosque in mecca returned to full capacity today. masks and vaccinated worshipers stood shoulder to shoulder for the first time since the pandemic began. the mosque in saudi arabia is islam's holiest site. straight ahead on the cbs weekend news, the new trainees learning to drive 18 wheelers amid a nationwide demand for truckers. we head to the national zoo where some animals are getting their covid shots. and later, mining the earth for a climate change solution. >> a lack of truck drivers is partly behind delivery did he lays across the country.rtagxpey it is parraion bo neck at is clogging u.s. ports especially in california. but as crist tye of our chicago station wbbm reports, problems can create opportunities. >> trucker shortages have left cargo ships like these stacked up off the coast of california. >> look at the truck realistically. >> and left clashes for would-be truckers at capacity. >> the demand has never been greater from an industry standpoint with the shortage of drivers. >> vernon cooper runs progressive truck dri

he recently returned from a trip to kabul. he joins me now. jan egeland, welcome back to the newshour. we have seen these scenes in kabul, not only of the internally displaced, but of entire families, selling all of their furniture simply to stay alive. how desperate is the situation there? >> it is beyond desperate, really. listen, i've been to afghanistan many times over recent years. always the crisis, violence, horrors, displacement. but this time, you feel like the whole population is in, like, a free fall. the mothers and the children, the fathers i met in the camps around kabul-- these are people who have fled to kabul over the years, including now, very recently-- they told me, "we have no reserve, we have no income. there is no food. we will freeze and starve to death this winter unless aid is able to flow, and the public sector is able to resume services, including paying public servants." >> schifrin: the u.n. secretary general antonio guterres said this week that the taliban are cooperating, and are allowing humanitarian aid worker

at least 5 people have been killed in an explosion in the capital kabul. the bombing targeted the entrance to a mosque. let's get more form out to cirrus of summer, been javits. he joins us live from kabul. osama, what more do you know about this attack at this stage? hello. this was the 1st time that it's all of on gathering of supporters and leaders has been targeted in the capital cobble. this was a condolence meeting where people were coming in to a condo. busy with the spokesman for the taliban, the viola giant who's the deputy minister information and culture as well, whose mother passed away a couple of days ago. and there were hundreds of people at this gathering just a few minutes before the blast. some out there, a team members were also there and they described to us that there were multiple rings of security around this site where at not just a buttery brigade, but other taliban d. the other thought about forces were trying to stop people, search them, and they were only letting them be letting people go inside to words. the area where people a

turning now to afghanistan where reports from kabul say that taliban fighters have launched attacks on suspected islamic state militant hideouts hours after a blast outside a mosque killed eight people. some residents said they heard an explosion followed by heavy gunfire. earlier, i asked our south asia editor for the latest on the blast. ., ., . , editor for the latest on the blast. ., ., ., , ., blast. no-one has admitted responsibility _ blast. no-one has admitted responsibility so _ blast. no-one has admitted responsibility so far - blast. no-one has admitted responsibility so far for - blast. no-one has admitted responsibility so far for this | responsibility so far for this blast outside the mosque in kabul, one of the biggest in the eastern part of the city. a day earlier the taliban had announced that there would be a memorial service for the late mother of the taliban's spokesperson and the debiting ministerfor spokesperson and the debiting minister for information. spokesperson and the debiting ministerfor information. and what is striking is that it came only yesterday, tha

i have to ask, this is your first time back in kabul since the fall of the kabul government, the taliban retaking over. what's it like? what do you notice? >> so far, amna, it has been an eerily, quiet situation in the streets. you can see commerce is vastly down. there's the usual traffic jams and bustling markets are rapidly disappearing. the first thing i noticed coming out of the airport other than truckloads of taliban fighters everywhere is the complete lack of women in the street, almost none seen at all in public spheres. but what was also striking, since we've arrived, has been the sense that, although the taliban technically control this city, there isn't a sense that they have taken over a government. there doesn't appear to be a robust administration. checkpoints are happen hazard. there's a feeling it's occupied by a militia but not necessarily run by one. >> nawaz: back in the states, a new report by the inspector general for afghanistan reconstruction detailing the cost of the final months to have the war for the u.s. and more details about what equipment was left behind a