and power has revealed more and more, about who kevin mccarthy is. it revealed on sunday who stephen scalise, is when he was unable on chris wallace's program, to simply state the fact that the election was not stolen. it revealed about bill barr. it revealed a lot frankly, and the very inspiring and positive side about people like maria bonavista, and alexander vindman, it's not all stories of villainy, there are some real heroes that have emerged from this period, but you're absolutely right, kevin mccarthy was ahead of his time, but he has really made for a presidency that believes that truth is not true. that everyone is entitled to their own alternative facts, in the idea that he would ever step foot in the speaker's office, is just a terrifying. one >> tell us about that idea, if the republicans win, and get the house back in the next, election next, year kevin mccarthy becomes speaker, what does that mean for the country? in the next two years of the biden presidency? >> i think what that means is a couple of things. one is people have specula

we are back with house minority leader kevin mccarthy. congressman, i want to ask about these new mandates and overreach from the department of justice, parents across the country, governors across the country are complaining. here's ron de santis. ag merrick garland is ordering the fbi to target, intimidate and silence parents who exercise first amendment rights at local schooled board meetings as the ag threaten to sic the fbi on parents who dare to oppose mandates on mask wearing as well as indoctrination of their children in critical race theory. what is going on? >> this is just more of the biden administration wanting greater control over our lives. who would have ever thought that you would have an american president make a decision to leave americans behind in afghanistan. now directing the doj to try to silence parents and actually separate parents from what their children can do inside cools and why is this rising up? because during the pandemic, children were going to school through zoom. parents were beginning to hear what was

i'm a life long republican, but i worked with kevin mccarthy. i think kevin mccarthy cannot be trusted to -- >> current leaders. you think the speaker should remain the speaker and that democrats should remain in control of the senate? >> i'm a fan of mitch mcconnell. that's not popular on the left. but i do think as long as donald trump's allies keep putting withering pressure on mitch mcconnell in the senate, to do things that are anti-democratic, then, no, the senate needs to remain a divided body for the time being. i will say, brianna, the crowd has mocked the governor and i for putting this out, who is miles taylor and who cares about the former governor of new jersey? i'll tell you who cares. the millions of disaffected republicans who switched sides and voted for joe biden in 2020. that's the audience we're reaching out to, and the crowd knows they can't get to 50, they can't get to 50% without those millions of disaffected republicans who feel the same way that the governor and i do. so that's the group that we're tapping into. >> certa

kevin mccarthy looks very likely. democrats only have a four vote edge and typically the other party does much better in off-year elections so kevin mccarthy if he goes along with the president is shooting himself in the foot. if he doesn't there is going to be a feud. that is the kind of problem that a lot of republican leaders face right now. >> speaking of the democrats now, voters are increasingly restless over the legislative stalemate and really just the infighting within the democratic party. how damaging could that be in 2022 and 2024? >> it could be very damaging in 2022. the democrats are withholding approval of the infrastructure bill because of the uncertainty of the build back better bill. and all of that is tied up together, showing nothing coming out of the democratic party that has the leadership in both chambers for this entire year. and people are getting restless and the democrats apparently either don't see it or are afraid to try to end this thing. as a result, as a result, they're doing nothing.

people like kevin mccarthy. people like the congressional committee chairman and congressman scott perry from pennsylvania. there is an entire chapter about scott perry and senate judiciary committee report about january 6th, the planning into it and republican donors that funded this thing and also fund republican members of congress. there is so much here that needs to be reality is, the enemy is truly within. the enemy is and the house of representatives right now. there are people who helped plan this, coordinate this. we have the open question about what members of congress help give recorecon. there are two things congress needs to do. number one, they need to act on new enforcement authority and give themselves the tools to enforce their oversight in realtime. they need to pass something that gives them fast track authority with the courts and number two, there is something called inherent contempt where they can throw steve bannon in jail now and force him to sit there until he provides the documents, em

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cheney called out her republican colleagues and specifically kevin mccarthy during her remarks. >> my colleagues in the republican party, the republican members of this body, have to understand, have to recognize that there's a moment when politics must stop if we want to defend and protect our institutions. a violent assault on the capitol to stop a constitutional process

it's certainly kevin mccarthy was made for a moment like this. he is who he is and in fact, one of the things as you note throughout the book, something that robert carol says in the story, it may not reveals the best of us but it reveals a lot of who we are. power has revealed who mccarthy is and even scalise when he was on chris wallace's program to state the fact that the election was not stolen. it revealed a lot about bill barr and a lot frankly on the very inspiring and positive side like maria yanovich. everyone is entitled to their own facts and the idea that he can step foot in the speaker's office is terrifying in life. >> tell us about the idea if republicans win, control the house back in the next election next year. kevin mccarthy becomes speaker, what does it mean for the country in the next two years of the biden's presidency? >> it means a couple of things. one, people speculated. could donald trump be the speaker because you don't need to be in congress. the reality is he would not need to be the speaker. essentially kevin mccart

and what happens if the other person who refuses to testify is house minority leader kevin mccarthy? could he wind up facing a vote on contempt? >> well, i think everybody is open without getting ahead of it. we have to find the facts. our committee is committed to finding the facts. if mr. mccarthy's information is germane to our investigation, absolutely we will talk to him. i hope he honors the subpoena. you know, we tried to work with him in the beginning. we have the record is replete with him making suggestions as to how the composition of other committees should go, how we should have joint subpoena power. we agreed to all of that, and at the last minute, he pulled the plug and wouldn't allow republicans to support it. so i take anything the minority leaders say with a grain of salt. you know, in most instances, your word is your bond. and in this instance, he's not been truthful. >> bennie thompson, chairman of the january 6 committee, thank you very much. really appreciate your time this evening. >> thank you. >> have a good evening. joining us now is tom nichols, contributi

people like kevin mccarthy were made for this moment. it really put our democracy on such edge because one of the painful lessons is the impeachment trial, there was nothing wrong with impeachment provision or the drafting of our constitution, we don't need to change the threshold for impeachment or anything like that. if those are not animated by people who believe what's right and wrong or telling the truth then none of it works. at the same time we can given the despair here of that luxury. at the same time when i listen to mit romney explained why he was willing to convict and he had grandchildren and children to answer to. there are people of virtue who justify the faiths our founders have. we can control our own destiny. >> everyone should read it and it's chilling. many at the capitol that day serving our country went through similar experiences, they're gut-wrenching and frightening. you are going to have people who'll not respond to subpoenas, who'll say no. can you guarantee that the job will be done to make sure to guarantee t

i mean, there was -- they tried to make a deal on, you know, timing and then mccarthy, kevin mccarthy, house minority leader rejected it and the senate republicans -- they wanted a bipartisan commission that dealt with this in a bipartisan way, and now they forced democrats' hands. i mean, what they are concerned about is clearly the committee is trying to get phone records. the committee is trying to get other communications from these -- from telecoms companies involving republican lawmakers. that's what they're worried about. they're not worried about steve bannon and trump. they're worried about what their complicity is. i think they're concerned about this and want to fight it, and you're going to see mccarthy and any of the house republicans or senate republicans, if their records are subpoenaed, if they go after them, they're going to fight it. they've going to try to drag this out in court. they're worried about it. they're worried about it, but they think they can politically discredit. the mueller investigation is their play book, and they're going to attack the select commi

but kevin mccarthy has been whipping against it. it's a good question to him as to why and why these members oppose it. i don't think speaker pelosi is betting on kevin mccarthy's caucus at this point in time. reporter: organizations that are helping migrants from haiti and a couple concerns they have, getting complaints of human rights violations at the border, including people being refused medical attention. another issue that was coming in was that there were many people deported, that didn't have proper documentation that were non-haitians that were sent to haiti and so they're dealing with that on the ground. have you heard -- have you all heard any of those complaints or information? jen: on the latter, i have not heard a single incident of that. i am happy to check on that case. i will just reiterate, as we've been implementing title 42 as it relates to any migrants who have been coming across the border, no matter what country they're coming from, coming through in a regular process, but in order to go back to a country, yo

like kevin mccarthy and john cornyn and others. now they say if you look at the event with chuck grassley in iowa. that's the kind of argument they're putting forth and the republican voters are going along with this. the question is the concerning thing is not like whether we're going to figure out what the reality is. we know what the reality is. the question is can enough information be put forth by this commission to crack the mitch mcconnells of the world. you know, the people that were on the brink of cracking on january 6th so that this man who brought our democracy to the brink can be held accountable. i'm not optimistic about that, frankly. as we look over the last nine months, i'm discouraged that crack is going to happen. it's incumbent of the committee to put forth all of the administration, excuse me, possible, in order to make the case. >> yeah, in more sort of men with no spine news, we have this from the hill. the piece, quote, several republican senators who requested, spoke anonymously to discuss trump frankly. ha

you're not seeing the politics of conviction of kevin mccarthy and his colleagues where the rank and file are desperate to return to the majority in the house. liz cheney and the group speaking deserve the accolades in the house. but they are in the minority, liz cheney, adam kinzinger, those are not the voices representative of today's gop. it's the voice of kevin mccarthy, particularly in moments of silence, where he allows republicans to perform as they currently are. >> by the way, i just wanted to correct myself when i said -- excuse me -- hot tea. nancy mace, of course is from south carolina. the first district in the state state of south carolina and not from georgia. i did paraphrase her correctly in that, joe, she was completely against the basic principle of why they were voting against steve bannon. i guess she was saying it was for the reason that the house of representatives has to be available with subpoena power of the house has to be available for republicans that she says is going to take the house back. but really it's the issue of the house of representatives which

also significant, we know about kevin mccarthy's phone call. i learned some more details about that. he placed that call literally, while he was being evacuated from the capital when he was on his way to the secure locations off the capital. along with the three top leaders. he told trump explicitly that the shots were fired off. he thought there were multiple shots pitch shots were fired. i had to be evacuated. you have to come out and call this off. it was in responseo that that kevin mccarthy heard trump say they just believe it more than me. yamiche: it is so incredible to think about the former president boasting about crowd side as people were running for their lives. this all connects to what is happening in virginia. the idea that there are these culture wars laying out that are central to president trump and his brand of politics. talk a bit about what is going on there and how it can be a microcosm for what is going on in the country? guest: the thing about culture wars as you don't need facts to back them up. you say something and ho

kevin mccarthy is going to stand up to trump. he's already shown that he's an acolyte. and i'm afraid with the candidates, if we can't get some sensible republican candidates through primaries, right now we've published a list of those who are incumbents who need support, who we think can make a difference on both sides of the aisle. we will be doing it again for challengers. if republicans win with the types of marjorie taylor greene type of representatives, we know where kevin mccarthy is going to go with that, and they don't deserve to be able to control that branch of government. they don't deserve to be in government frankly when you're somebody who keeps talking about these outrageous conspiracy theories. the thing that's so worrying is that this challenge for the 2020 election, which was free, fair, safe, and accurate and over 60 court cases heard by judges, even some appointed by trump, said there's no "there" there. there was no large amount of, you know, of -- >> fraud. >> playing with ballots. there was no fraud. it ju

you jean, i want to talk about kevin mccarthy. he was on fox news, the only place they'll go this morning talking greasy about the january 6th commission. take a listen. we'll talk about it on the other side. >> the committee that is not a bipartisan committee for the first time in hitstory, nancy pelosi picked who could be on this committee. what they're trying to do, they're missing the two main points. why were we so ill prepared on january 6th and why to make sure we will not be in this position. it's purely politics. congress does not have the right to go after my or your fine e phone number records. the supreme court made this ruling. it's interesting how far they want to control and where they want to go. >> you think this is so clear. first of all, we know the reporting that according to reporting, concern mccarthy had that exchange with donald trump where he asked him who the f do you think are you talking to? so there is a real reason why he might not want congress to go through his phone records. what's your take? >> no

kevin mccarthy should not be the person who is making that decision for him. mark meadows was subpoenaed. he is talking to the committee in some fashion. cash patel was subpoenaed. steve bannon has decided to not, and that is contempt. they did the right thing according to almost everybody. yamiche: yeah, and ryan, just quickly, what do you make of all this when you think of the doj's role in the position they're in now? >> imagine if republicans take the house in 2022. they're not going to be able to use this against the biden administration, which is what they want. if they got this process and say no, you don't have to comply with the congressional subpoena. how are they going to make that argument? it won't stop them from making that argument. but they will look like hypocrites. yamiche: some smart foreshadowing on your part. finally, this week started with some sad news that general: powell passed away. he w the first black secretary of state, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, and national security advisor. he helped shape the foreign policy. he was

and kevin mccarthy is among the worst. i welcomed him when i was an am bask -- ambassador to the united states. that's not the kevin mccarthy we know. he's embracing this insurrectionist dogma of ex president trump. it is so dangerous for america if these individuals get power. >> norm, thank you very much for your take both political and legal. appreciate you. >>> we'll take a break and come back with the handoff. this... is the planning effect. this is how it feels to have a dedicated fidelity advisor looking at your full financial picture. this is what it's like to have a comprehensive wealth plan with tax-smart investing strategies designed to help you keep more of what you earn. and set aside more for things like healthcare, or whatever comes down the road. this is the planning effect from fidelity. discover card i just got my cashback match is this for real? yup! we match all the cash back new card members earn at the end of their first year automatically woo! i got my mo-ney! it's hard to contain yourself isn't it?

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. >> parents republican leader kevin mccarthy talk to reporters about infrastructure and spitting legislation, few if any republican matters in the numbers will supported and is legislative briefing with the press printed. >> good day as always, some of you have been around here for a long time, maybe even longer than i have and i continue to hear the question asked have you ever seen in administration and congress as incompetent as this. trillions of dollars in spending and more inflation to lead to higher costs for all americans and those are all on the table. the details changed by the minute in the code of change since i walked in here and one democrat remarked, just missing two things, what exactly is going to be in the mail and how are we going to pay for ads and other that, we are good to go. remember speaker pelosi famous quote is we need to pessimism we can find out what is in it and when the white house rushes on framework hours before the president comes to the health, you know they are desperate and grasping for straws. the best ideas compete no longer and other competing for a vo

. >> house republican leader kevin mccarthy called the subpoena against steve bannon quote invalid. as a house is getting right to vote on holding mr. bannon in contempt, pierces spoken dissent to that spending proposals. reporter: what is your response to senate republicans who are still [indiscernible] >> they are the only ones who think it is a stand-alone bill. you heard president biden come to the floor, come to the hill with the democrats, is no longer a stand-alone bill. speaker pelosi says they will not take it up, they have to take up both. my conversation with them is the same as it was before. it is not a stand-alone bill, and opposes -- republicans are opposed to having just one. we support infrastructure, i know the senate used the ability to -- puts ability to states use covid money that they have that they do not need for covid, used on transportation projects, i'm not sure why they don't do that in the house. reporter: speaker pelosi just said about the reconciliation bill that it will be paid for and that no taxes will be raised. >> leader mccarthy: i'm not sure tha

and kevin mccarthy is among the worst. i welcomed him when i was an ambassador of the united states. he came to prague. that's not the kevin mccarthy we know. he's embracing this insurrectionist dogma of ex president trump. it is so dangerous for america if these individuals get power. >> norm, thank you very much for your take both political and legal. appreciate you. >>> we'll take a break and come back with the handoff. anything . it could be the day you welcome 1,200 guests and all their devices. or it could be the day there's a cyberthreat. only comcast business' secure network solutions give you the power of sd-wan and advanced security integrated on our activecore platform so you can control your network from anywhere, anytime. it's network management redefined. every day in business is a big day. we'll keep you ready for what's next. comcast business powering possibilities. discover card i just got my cashback match is this for real? yup! we match all the cash back new card members earn at the end of their first ye

. >> what happens if kevin mccarthy becomes speaker? >> a disaster because he'll do anything that donald trump tells him and we can in the have someone with absolutely no reference for the truth, no willingness to uphold his oath in that position in line to the presidency. >> schiff went on to say mccarthy was essentially be a insurrectionist in a suit and tie. what do you make of that? >> well, i -- i think right now house republicans are focused on getting back the majority. now should they get the majority, what are they going to do with it is the question, and i don't think anything is guaranteed that -- that you know, kevin mccarthy becomes the speaker or anybody else. you have to remember -- >> you don't think that's guaranteed? >> no, i don't, because i -- i remember what happened after john boehner stepped down. many of the members -- several of the members frankly from the freedom caucus wing of the party, they undermined mccarthy and prevented his elevation to speaker. paul ryan had to step in. now i'm not saying the same thin

republican leader kevin mccarthy withdrew his name and the names of all the other republicans that he had put up to be on the committee because nancy pelosi wouldn't seat a couple of these, as you call them, coup enablers, people who engaged in the big lie about the election. banks is prominent among them. i don't think there will be any punishment for him because kevin mccarthy does not run that kind of republican caucus. but it is -- he's lying to the government. if you or i did such a thing, there might be a prosecution for it. >> i sign all of my documents john berman, anchor of "the lead." by the way. >> i'm the anchor of "state of the union" with jake tapper when i sign my documents. >> you talk about this, you talk about the disappearance of shame. in washington, i happen to think you're right. >> it is crazy. >> jon stewart he called you naive for it. i think he was being naive for not buying into it. but it disappeared there. you have jim banks willing to sign documents, ranking member of the january 6th committee, you have marjorie taylor greene who i know in some cases is a

moreover, if kevin mccarthy is speaker, donald trump is speaker because mccarthy will not stand up to him no matter how unethical the demand. as long as the gop and leadership are a cult, autocrat cult around the former president, there is no accommodating that. they just need to be beaten at the polls. >> i cannot say i disagree with you, sir. congressman, adam schiff thank you for all you've done to defend this democracy. i can just give you an amen on this friday. thank you very much. appreciate what you do, thank you, best of luck with the buck. >> coming up on "the reidout" it's starting to feel like we may have gone back to the roaring '20s between today's worker strikes, postal deliveries slower than a horse and buggy. we'll be right back. horse and buggy. we'll be right back. i'm not getting through the pandemic just to end up with the flu. i asked for fluzone high-dose quadrivalent. it's the #1-used flu vaccine for people 65 and older. fluzone high-dose quadrivalent is the only vaccine approved by the fda for superior flu protection in adults 65+. i'm not letting my guard dow

. >> we're in this moment, right, where folks like kevin mccarthy could actually be held in criminal contempt by not abiding by these subpoenas. you got a bipartisan investigation into january 6th, but there are millions of americans that we just heard from that don't believe, essentially, january 6th even happened. nothing wrong happened. and you have congressmen that have been elected by americans who continue to deny the results of the 2020 election. >> yeah, yasmin, there's a lot at play here. first, politicians have the opportunity to either lead public opinion or follow and what you see is a bunch of weak republican leaders in washington following the republican or the public opinion that has been set by donald trump. but what you also see in congressman biggs's statement is this. there are some conspiracy theorists in the gop, even in elected office, there are conspiracy theory lite, if you will, as well, but they also face the reality that the party today, nearly two-thirds, according to some polls, believes the election was rigged so their political reality requires them to

if kevin mccarthy were ever to become speaker essentially donald trump will be speaker. he would not disagree with him ever. and you have an outside party effectively running the house of representatives. and that's an unethical one to boot. the story as you know i told in the book i told because it's so uncharacteristic. mccarthy and i are sitting on a plane flying back to washington, this was in 2010. the midterms are about six months away. we were having an idle conversation who's going to win in the midterms he said the republicans would win and the movie started and i was relieved to escape to the movie. [laughter] we planted i thought nothing of the conversation. we went our separate ways. that night but not steamy debriefing with the press he said it set next to adam schiff and admitted republicans are going to win the midterms. i didn't learn about this until morning when the newspaper came out. i was aghast. i was astounded and sought him out of the house floor and said kevin, first will having a private conversation is going to be a private conversation. and if

we'll take you live to house minority leader kevin mccarthy briefing reporters. mr. mccarthy: some of you have been around here for a long time, maybe longer than i have. i continue to hear the question asked, have you ever seen an administration and congress as incompetent as this? trillions in spend, major expansions of government agencies and even more inflation that will lead to higher costs for all americans. those are all on the table. the details change by the minute, could have changed since i walked in here. the democrats -- as one democrat remarked, we are just missing two things. what exactly will be in the bill and how we're going to pay for it. other than that we're good to go. remember speaker pelosi's famous quote we need to pass the bill so we can find out what's in it. when the white house rushes out a framework hours before the president comes to the hill you know they are desperate and grasping for straws. this is no longer a congress where the best ideas compete. they're now competing for a vote based upon when air force one lands in rome. i have

so much of what liz cheney has communicated about kevin mccarthy's importance as a witness. and list cheney has gone so far as to say he should be subpoenaed, if he doesn't testify it is about those communications that took place while the insurrection was under way, while the chance to hang mike pence was still happening, while people like chris christie were on live tv calling for trump to tell his people to go home. while we now know from reporting donald trump was cheering like a sporting event and forced to record multiple videos ultimately to force all of his people to go home, but reminding them he loved them. talk about her. talk about that testimony and tell me about the other nine who make up these nine republicans on the board now as voting to hold steve bannon in contempt. jamie herrera is one of the -- house leaders decided to not -- this vote is a vote of conscience. basically, you can decide where you are at on this issue. jamie has been a focal point. maybe not quite as out there as liz cheney and adam kinzinger. not on the january 6th committee but certainly

kevin mccarthy is the story here, though. i used to know jeff miller in another life. he wasn't a snake. but this is a snake move. what is the purpose of cutting off cheney's fund-raising, tim miller? >> it is sending a message. for starters, don't cry for me, republican fund-raising cult consultants, i guess. they are not exactly the victims here. i don't feel horrible for them. but to your point, the actions of jeff miller and kevin mccarthy are extremely telling. look, they have -- they have completely thrown in not just with marjorie taylor green. look at this caucus. they have paul gosar, the nicest thing you could say about him is he is white nationalist curious. he might be worse than that on the white nationalist chain. mat gets a, who -- you have got matt gaetz. you have mo brooks in this caucus. you could be a fund-raising consultant for them and jeff miller doesn't care if you fund raise for white nationalists. what he cares is if you fund raise for someone who is telling the truth about his boss's complicity in the insurrection on january 6th. i think that

i wish kevin mccarthy gave a damn in working parties -- families or infra structure. i wish i could tell you he is working to cut a deal with democrats but he is too busy catering with conspiracy theorists and insurrectionists in his party. i wish these republican governors were serious about keeping our kids safe during a pandemic. i've got two little boys at home who are not old enough yet to be vaccinated. one of them right now is quarantined because a kid in his class got covid. their safety is always my top priority and i can't tell you how much time i have spent, how many hours of sleep my wife and i have lost thinking about covid protocols and their protection. i know it is the same for families across this country. you think that would mean something to greg abbott or henry mcmaster or ron desantis, instead, they are giving in to anti-vaxxers. i don't think there is a single thing these clowns would not do or say if it meant took across and would say nice things about them on fox news. it doesn't matter who dies as a result. that is the thing about republicans

. >> parents republican leader kevin mccarthy talk to reporters about infrastructure and spitting legislation, few if any republican matters in the numbers will supported and is legislative briefing with the press printed. >> good day as always, some of you have been around here for a long time, maybe even longer than i have and i continue to hear the question asked have you ever seen in administration and congress as incompetent as this.

i wish kevin mccarthy gave a damn in working parties -- families or infra structure. i wish i could tell you he is working to cut a deal with democrats but he is too busy catering with conspiracy theorists and insurrectionists in his party. i wish these republican governors were serious about keeping our kids safe during a pandemic. i've got two little boys at home who are not old enough yet to be vaccinated. one of them right now is quarantined because a kid in his class got covid. their safety is always my top priority and i can't tell you how much time i have spent, how many hours of sleep my wife and i have lost thinking about covid protocols and their protection. i know it is the same for families across this country. you think that would mean something to greg abbott or henry mcmaster or ron desantis, instead, they are giving in to anti-vaxxers. i don't think there is a single thing these clowns would not do or say if it meant took across and would say nice things about them on fox news. it doesn't matter who dies as a result. that is the thing about republicans

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i asked kevin mccarthy is somebody like chris wray the director of the f.b.i. who received the attorney general work with local u.s. attorneys to protect the school boards from the parents. here is what he said to that. >> he should come right out today and say that it's not the role of the justice department. education is through the states. you should not silence parents, you should welcome parents into the classroom. >> dana: remind people. merrick garland attorney general put out the memo that said threats against public servants are illegal and run counter to the nation's core values and i understand the idea that these meetings can get very hot and explicit threats obviously if they are violent you have to do something about it. that's not an f.b.i. role. that's a local government role. >> i think that's absolutely right. we have local law enforcement. when things get out of control it is why you bring in local law enforcement. when i think about harassing elected officials i think about krysten sinema and i wonder is merrick garland sending a memo to inv

cheney called out her republican colleagues and specifically kevin mccarthy during her remarks. >> my colleagues in the republican party, the republican members of this body, have to understand, have to recognize that there's a moment when politics must stop if we want to defend and protect our institutions. a violent assault on the capitol to stop a constitutional process of counting electoral votes is that moment. they all knew that on that day. in fact, the minority leader himself stood in this chamber and said, quote, the president bears responsibility for wednesday's attack on congress by mob rioters. he should have immediately denounced the mob when he saw what was unfolding. mr. mccarthy was right then. the president bears responsibility. >> among the pressing questions in washington is now whether the justice department will take the time to prosecute steve bannon and act on it. attorney general merrick garland was noncommital when testifying before the house judiciary committee yesterday. >> the department recognizes the important oversight role that this committee, the house

. >> what happens if kevin mccarthy become speaker? >> a disaster. because he will do anything that donald trump tells him. and we cannot have someone with absolutely no reverence for the truth. no willingness to pull this old in that position. unlined to the presidency. donald trump doesn't need to be pointed speaker of kevin mccarthy, because essentially donald trump will control whatever he does. >> so, steward, shift went on to call mccarthy an insurrectionist in a suit and tie. but there is increasing frustration even among democrats that it is all words. people would like right about now, to see some consequences. i know that i have us do this nine ways from tuesday. but it's impossible to overstate how impossible this moment is for the democrats? >> no, i would point out that i am somebody has been putting off loss in the democratic party, and my conclusion is successfully that the democratic party here is -- they really have to. i am optimistic that they are going to come to some sort of bill that they will pass. and one way this is sort of n

. >> what happens to kevin mccarthy becomes speaker. >> >> disaster. because he will do anything that donald trump tells him. and we cannot have someone with absolutely no reference for the true, no willingness to uphold this oath in that position, in line to the presidency. donald trump doesn't need to be pinted speaker if kevin mccarthy s essentially donald trump will control everything he does. st. >> so stewart, schiff went on to call mccarthy and insurrectionist in a suit and tie. but there is increasing frustration among loyal democrats that it's all words. people would like right about now to see some consequences. i know i asked you this nine ways from tuesday. it is possible to overstate how important this moment is for the democrats? >> no. i mean, look, i'm somebody that's been here pointing out flaws in democratic party. and my conclusion is that it is the democratic party hear to save the country. they really have to. i am optimistic they'll come to some sort of bill that they'll pass. and in one way this is normal big bill stuff. i mean i

because what we're saying is kevin mccarthy should not be the speaker of the house of representatives. if he is, it will become a haunted house, and that's one of the big things that we're trying to prevent. so, we're playing in races where we think we can make that difference, primarily by supporting unifying centrist democrats where it matters and, again, protecting that flank of republicans who hopefully in the long run can reform the party. and if they don't, hopefully they'll be the ones to lead the charge for a new center right party in this country. >> so, hopefully one such kind of republican is adam kinzinger. let me show you his blast against his own party, charlie, for refusing to just tell the truth. >> leaders have got to stand up and tell people the truth. so, if you don't trust the media and you don't trust anything and you're inundated with sources of information, you're going to look at somebody that stands in front of you and talks, and if you trust them at heart, you're going to believe them. and when you have steve scalise not answer whether or not, you know, joe b

and just listen to mitch mcconnell and kevin mccarthy and lindsey graham. they agreed on that day. they agreed on that day. so i think so most of the country wants there to be some kind of accountability for what happened on that day. and if merrick garland won't deliver it or if it can't be delivered in timely fashion, i think congress needs to think about using its powers of inherent contempt, which means they would gallon and arrest steve bannon. >> wow. wow. from you, claire. i want to try to dig into what is actually happening with the subpoenaed witnesses. a.b. stoddard, mark meadows has a real lawyer. you can't say that about everybody in donald trump's circle. george twillinger is representing meadows. bennie thompson says quote our people are still talking to kash patel, dan scavino. they are somewhat quote cooperating, he says. politico also reporting the news about george twillinger representing mark meadows. what do you think mark meadows is doing? what do you think his posture is toward the committee? >> well, it's interesting that he has retained a credible lawyer who

especially if kevin mccarthy is speaker of the house in the lead up to the 2024 election. given everything we saw, we can't trust my own party to lead the house of representatives in the lead up to 2024. >> you just said you fielded angry phone calls. who was left that's persuadable on this? when you write a piece in the "new york times," i'm glad you did. are there people in the persuadable middle in the echelons of the republican party who are open to seeing this or is everyone is polarized in the maga or never trumper world? >> no one's ever asked me that question and i think the answer is clear. there are few republicans left to be persuaded. there's no question that the maga side and the gop civil war. that's not what's significant here for what we're discussing. what's significant is that there are actually, even though it's a smaller group, millions of rational republicans. what i call the rational remnants of the gop who are a relatively silent cohort, but who also did throw the last election in large part for joe biden and who still can be mobilized in these key r