kyrsten sinema looks rocksolid to me. frankly i'm working for other blue dog democrats in the house and senate especially those running for reelection in trump districts and states to come out of the woodwork and supporting joe manchin kyrsten sinema, there the new reality. as a reminder to mrs. sanders who said two senators are holding up his bill, it's actually two plus 50 which is 52 because i know today's washington is aromatic lead challenge. last night senator marsha blackburn said there could be others. a vote today on the reconciliation bill could be 54 - 46. this afternoon president biden has apparently gone up to capitol hill it will try to persuade house democratic conference to vote for trillion dollar infrastructure bill and maybe save some face for his domestic program. that program along with the catastrophe of the southern border in the catastrophe in afghanistan is already dooming his presidency. nancy pelosi is 022 for the infrastructure bills and tennis that would be a double fault but were working towa

they don't trust moderates or joe manchin or kyrsten sinema. if they did, they would be going along with it, they would have voted on infrastructure a long time ago. i don't see what's changed in the last 24 hours. they've said they need to see legislative language before they can vote on anything and they still don't have it. how is that an unreasonable position if they've had it all along when they say they want to see legislative language before they volt? >> you'd have to ask them that question themselves. what i can tell you from the house democratic caucus perspective is the speaker stood in front of us, she told us that we were going to have this vote. the president came. so what's changed, your question was what's changed in the last 24 hours, that's what's changed. we have an agenda to put this on the floor. the speaker asked me to consider this item. she right now is having conversations with members still, and the president came before our caucus and asked us to support this vote. he's going to get on a plane, land in europe, and we

mccain, and a narcissist, kyrsten sinema. so you see how this works, right? when the late john mccain bucked his party he was a maverick.bu he helped saved obamacare. that made him iconic and courageous. when kyrsten sinema bucks own party she is a reckless narcissist trying to destroy democracy or something. it is blatant hypocrisy in broad daylight. >> sean: thank you for being with us, joeoy concha. "concha versus the mob," i like it.n >> okay, we will work on this. >> sean: more "hannity" right after this. .. .. >> unfortunately, but as all the time we have left for this evening. thank you for being with us. please we hope you will save dvr so you never miss an episode and in the meantime, let not your hearts be troubled, "the ingraham angle" is up next and we will see you back here tomorrow night. >> laura: i'm laura ingraha laura: this is the ingraham angle from washington, including breaking details on lieutenant colonel stuart scheller who called out his leaders, his attorney will tell us what is up at first the zucke

i wanted to call in to let you guys know i am disappointed with kyrsten sinema. i voted for her and i was excited for her to help arizona be democratic and get the kind of government we need. i want to know why the democrats are not going harder on her. why is she not being called out for disrespecting the party? it is majority rule than most of the party wants this agenda done with president biden. guest: nicole raises an important point. there is a lot of pressure on the president, chuck schumer -- the president and chuck schumer to turn up the heat on people like senator kyrsten sinema. the problem is that the tools at their disposal don't really allow them to do that. there is not much more pressure that can be brought to bear on an individual. when lyndon johnson was majority leader and then-president, he would be able to threaten senators with think that would really scare them, like being taken off key committees or having campaign funds cut or being iced out of power in certain ways. that really does not happen in the modern senate. every senator is a kin

senator kyrsten sinema has released a statement. "yesterday several individuals disrupted my class at euros on a state university. after deceptively entering a locked secure building these individuals filmed and publicly posted videos of my students without their permission, including footage taken of both my students and myself using the restroom." yesterday's behavior was not legitimate in terms of a protest. it is not acceptable for activist organizations to instruct their members to jeopardize themselves by engaging in unlawful activitiese first amendment. we know it's vital to our democracy. the activist group that engaged in yesterdays behavior is one that both of my team and i have met with several times since i was elected to the senate." i'm kind of going through things is rather lengthy. rachel. >> richard brought up the point that this happens on both sides. on and off richard is going for these activists to be treated the way those from the whitmer kidnapping in january 6th, those people are sitting in solitary confineme

mccain, and a narcissist, kyrsten sinema. when the late john mccain bucked his party he was a maverick. he helped saved obamacare. that made him iconic and courageous. when kyrsten sinema boxer own party she is a reckless narcissist trying to destroy democracy or something. it is blatant hypocrisy in broad daylight. >> sean: thank you for being with us, joe concha. joe concha versus the mob, i lie it. >> okay, we will work on this. >> sean: more "hannity" right after this. why not both? visibly diminish wrinkled skin in... crepe corrector lotion... only from gold bond. aaaand welcome back to guess the price. sal. what do you do? oh, i'm a retired postal worker. fantastic. are you ready to play? oh, heck yeah. ok johnny, tell him about eargo. these top of the line hearing aids from eargo are straight out of the future. they're rechargeable and virtually invisible in your ears host: ok sal, how much do you think they cost? oh gee i don't know... um er $5000? well, actually for you they don't cost anything holy heck. that's beca

kyrsten sinema used to represent this area in politics. when you see kyrsten sinema do what she's doing, what do you think about it? >> it's one thing to go against your party, but you need to let people know why. >> transparency has not been a constant theme. sinema says she's motivated by being an independent voice and supports a bipartisan approach. sinema was elected by a thin margin of just over two percentage points. emily kirkland was part of an army of progressive activists who worked to get sinema elected. sinema said she knocked on doors it turn out voters for the future senator. >> where are you now with the senator? >> incredibly frustrated. just so angry and disappointed. in part because it feels like she's just doing what corporate donors want and she's not listening to voters. >> reporter: kirkland points to what happened in march, when sinema walked into the senate chamber, and with an emphatically expressive thumbs down voted against a bill to create a $15 an hour minimum wage. sinema said she supported past minimum wage i

you know, i served with kyrsten sinema. she spent most of her time in the house talking with republicans. the only time she ever talked with us was to ask for money. i never really understood what she wanted. i know she has a sincere interest in helping deal with climate change, but that's the only agenda item i have heard. >> so do you have similar sentiments on sinema? what is motivating her to dig in during these negotiations? >> you know, i love john yarmuth, and i understand his frustration. i don't think anything was gained by taking pot shots at fellow democrats, especially two democrats in the senate that we need. we need to pass this. i also know kyrsten sinema. she was my colleague in the house. she comes from a really, really hard scrabble background. she experienced homelessness. she experienced poverty. and so she's not unsympathetic to the underlying values. she may have her own views about cost of programs. i don't know. i haven't talked to her directly about this bill, but i wouldn't write kyrsten sinema off

♪♪ kyrsten sinema was born and raised in arizona which is already tough. i mean, everything there is trying to kill you, the animals, the heat, even the plants are covered in daggers. sinema's childhood was especially tough. she grew up door and at times her family was even homeless but she overcame the obstacles. she got an advanced degree, and became a lawyer, social worker and activist. the kind of story they turn into an inspiring movie you wear you will watch and never do. she was the kind of person you hope would run for office and then that's exactly what she did. >> sinema started out far left of center as a green party activist, entering politics in arizona as a ralph nader supporter, organizations antiwar prosties protests after the september 11 attacks. >> the state are the lab of democracy and my state is the meth lab of democracy. >> she spoke out about mass incarceration, fought to include gender identity and antidiscrimination laws, led a successful effort to kill a ban on affirmative action and strongly opposed abortion restrictions. >> tea

kyrsten sinema, what is this all about? well, my angle will lay it out and you won't believe what's happening. don't go away. prescribed topical pain relief ingredient. it's clinically proven, reduces inflammation and comes in original prescription strength. salonpas. it's good medicine. ♪ ♪ >> laura: the mob never sleeps. that's the focus of tonight's angle. now, what do comedian dave chappelle and senator kyrsten sinema have in common? well, for starters, both have been hailed by the left as taboo-shattering talented trailblazers. >> kyrsten sinema is one of my dear friends and i'm so excited that she's just won. >> she actually came across as very moderate, very normal, and very likable. >> the first openly bisexual person going into the senate. >> and epic performance on "saturday night live." chapelle was obviously hilarious. >> date has always had incredible political insight as an observer. >> i can't do a lot of things as well as dave chappelle. >> laura: but that was before chapelle and sinema deviated from the

>> kyrsten sinema is playing hard ball with this statement and democratic leadership knows it. she's putting it all out there she's calling the delay to that bipartisan infrastructure bill onra the house floor an ineffective stunt. she goes on to say, accuse leadership of moving the goal post on the infrastructure bills. here is what richey torres, a new york democrat had to say on msnbc yesterday. watch., >> it is an inexplicable statement. we're committed to passing both bills by the end of october. the obstruction is not coming from progressives. it is coming from two senators. >> reporter: yes, so torres there, he's aso progressive memr of the house and his state of new york has very big needs for that physical infrastructure bill that bipartisan infrastructure bill thatrt by t way senator sinema led in the senate to passage. but he also says like most of his democratic colleagues that themo american people also need that p human infrastructure bil that cradle to grave proposal that democrats are putting together now that they'rets tryg to get senator sinema and manchin, yo

lisa: wedding crashers target democratic senator kyrsten sinema. no, no one. lisa: will show you what happened with the mother of the bride steps in. tyrus: there is no truth in 1500 american airline flights canceled the halloween horror across the country. jackie: first revealing more tricks then treats with the supply chain crisis. people are expected to spend more than $10 billion on halloween this year, there are costume shortages across the country. the wall street journal seen the scariest part of halloween this year is the supply chain. the chairman of one of the halloween trade organizations blaming the shortage on issues of shipping ports saying were seen out shock in the u.s. retailers like target, more than we've seen in a very long time, several of our members are sitting on both because of the backlog of vessels. today the biden administration doubling down on their claim that the solution of supply k chain crisis. >> the best thing we can do for issues around pricing and the supply chain is better infrastructure so they can move smoothly and poli

kyrsten sinema used it lead protests. now the tables have turned. since the summer, she has been the target of anger by activists in the democratic party from the civil rights leader jesse jackson to workers rights leader dolores huerta who last week melted an ice sculpture of senator cinema in effigy. >> is beautiful statue we have here. your sport is going to note away. >> an educational and political consultant in phoenix says she has volunteered for senator cinema for more than a decade. >> i would cling to her every word. she would talk about having the proper education and knowing how to interact with opposing views. but it was always standing on your values. it was not selling out. i remember she -- our member when she was approachable. >> david wells, a political science professor at arizona state university attended rallies with her protesting the wars in iraq and afghanistan. >> she ran for legislature the first time as an independent. she did not want to be outside the two parties. she worked really hard but she lost. then she ran as a de

kyrsten sinema was at the white house earlier talking negotiations. president biden's team and senator joe manchin before she attended a bipartisan lunch. sinema along with manchin the two major holdouts for this discussion around the spending packages. they are racing to get a proposal together that satisfies what she and joe manchin want to get the 50 votes they need across the finish line. holding out against party pressure and what do her constituents think about this. good thing we have cal perry on the ground in phoenix with this. you have been talking to folks and doing a bunch of reporting on this. nationally there are democrats that look at kyrsten sinema and say, wait a minute, how could she not back some of this stuff? in arizona it is a bit of a different story. >> it is. look, this is a state where we see close, contested. liberals want to move to the left and conservative its to the right and sinema puts herself in the middle. in talking to her constituents the one thing we have been hearing over and over again is the way she is going ab

they're constituents of kyrsten sinema. they are people who supported kyrsten sinema. they are people who knocked on doors for kyrsten sinema who feel betrayed and who are telling their senator their story, and why this bill is important to them. you know, i watched -- >> but isn't there a difference between that and recording it all and then having someone record you record it? so then it's not about convincing her. it's about making a video for them so that they can put a video out and show themselves as activists which is what they are. and they have every right to, you know, believe very strongly what they believe. but isn't this more about theater and video? >> i think it's about -- i think it's about making it known, their displeasure with their senator. and let's remember that this senator was -- kyrsten sinema was once a protestor, herself. >> true. >> she is on video attacking joe liebermann, attacking bill nelson for being centrists. and for not giving their vote to the democratic agenda. so that's very ironic. she was elected as a progressive firebrand. look

. >> the real villan of this whole unfolding drama is kyrsten sinema, who won't make progressives an offer. kyrsten sinema won't even say anything about what she wants, what she's willing to accept, what sort of concessions she would accept. >> senate democrats joe manchin and kyrsten sinema continue to hold the party's agenda hostage. ( siren ) >> senator sinema, come on out. here i am! we want to get those hostages out safely. what is it you want? >> what do i want? yeah, just say something you want so we can start negotiating. >> i don't know what i want. you want an plane? i don't like big planes. okay, do you want a private jet? >> i don't like small planes. how about a boat? i get seasick. s it money you want? no, not really. are you hungry? you want food? >> what kind of food? mexican. too spicey. salad. too healthy! chinese? i just ate. come on, what do you want? nothing, i just kind of like the attention. >> announcer: it's "the late show" with stephen colbert! tonight, sinema. tonight, we welcome john lithgow and musical guest theo croker and wyclef jean, featuring jon bati

and look, i served with kyrsten sinema for four years. she has a strong preference for bipartisan e legislation, numbe one because she thinks it's more durable. when bills pass with support of membersup of both parties those policies tend to last. they don't get attacked in future congresses or altered. we have other lessons like the aca in 2010 and the republican tax cut bill in 2017. those are bills that have been under assault since the time they were passed and that cost democrats their t majorities in 2010 elections and republicans their housect majority in 2018. so i think kyrsten sinema is actually doing her party a favor here by moderating some of these policies and actually giving them a chance to keep their razor thin majorities in the 2022 elections. >> okay, so she does not represent where the party is. the partyt overwhelmingly supports these policies. even inie west virginia they wa this, and arizona went to the polls for the build back better plan. her job is to represent the constituents of arizona and the voters who put t

in march he wrote an in-depth profile on senator kyrsten sinema for jacobin headlined "how kyrsten sinema went from lefty activist to proud neoliberal democrat." he's also the author of "yesterday's man: the case against joe biden." you certainly cover a lot. let's start with kyrsten sinema. she was a campaign manager for ralph nader in arizona. talk about what is happening now. you have all of the advisors quitting saying that she is putting the profits of donor over people. talk about what she stands for. branko: i mean, sinema has really sho to stand for the interests of the corporate sector, the wealthy. this is not a new development. in the house she was one of the lawmakers who tried and did repeal fancial reform laws. she went after obamacare. trng to repeal taxes on medical technology makers. she tried to get rid of individual mandates anvarious other de-regulatory actions. it is all because she is trying to, i think, trying to appeal to these interests because they fund her campaign and she has been lavishly rewarded. she is one of the few democrats who gets the chamber of commer

kyrsten sinema was one of the people who helped negotiate and put that bill together. and she put out this very harshly-worded statement aimed squarely at people of her own party. it reads inexcusable, deeply disappointing over the course of the year democratic leaders have been conflicting promises that could not all be kept and at times have pretended the difference in our own party did not exist. so she definitely is not happy with the battle here, but it is really about the price tag as well as the priorities on that big spending bill that progressive democrats want to prop up the safety net, $3.5 trillion. moderates say it is just too big and they're trying to pair it down. the house speaker nancy pelosi said the infrastructure bill, again president biden's priority, has to be voted on by the end of the month which, as you said, sort of sets up the possibility of a lhalloween showdown. >> all right. and arlette saenz, to you. you asked the president a question today and he seemed to still think it is all going to get done. what is his thinking? >> reporter: well,

how they solve this issue with kyrsten sinema is an interesting one. because, of course, this is something she's been opposed to, raising the corporate tax rate, raising the tax rates -- tax increases on high earners. but now they need to figure out what they're going to do about it. are they going to have time to figure out a tax structure to pay for it. by the time they want the framework, friday and next week when he leaves to go on his next foreign trip, they see this as a little winner, raising taxes on corporations. that's something the president talked about almost every time he's out on the trail, out speaking to voters like he was yesterday in pennsylvania. if they scrap that, how do you message that, that is something that has polled really well and the white house knows that. >> i think the question that john asked about is this something that has been there and just coming to light, is probably the right one. we know what happens with these negotiations, as the differences narrow, and as they come to agreement, the things that they are not

the president couldn't be clearer kyrsten sinema is a roadblock to how they envision paying for this. how many times did you listen not just joe biden but every democrat running last cycle the president and vice president every day of their administration last year talking about rolling back those trump tax cuts and getting corporations and the wealthy to pay their fair share. and kyrsten sinema says on tax rates for both of those corporations and wealthy americans, it's a no-go. so now they're trying to find other ways. the president promises this will not add a penny to the debt -- >> david, let me play it for you and then you'll help explain it. here it is. >> first of all, she's smart as a devil, number one. number two, she's very supportive of the environmental agenda in my legislation. very supportive. she supports almost all the things i mentioned relating to everything from family care to all those issues. where she's not supportive is she says she will not raise a single penny in taxes on the corporate side and/or on wealthy people, period. and so that's where it sort of brea

right now, in a very scaled down, slimmed measure because senator kyrsten sinema opposed it, they only allocate $145 billion in the prescription drug pricing component. so that is much smaller than most democrats really wanted on that issue. and so, you know, like we've been talking about, there's a lot of questions. we just got confirmation from an aide to senator bernie sanders who said he absolutely backs the progressive position in the house of representatives that they should not vote for this bipartisan infrastructure. remember this other trillion dollar bill that speaker pelosi wants to vote on today. that progressives should not vote on it until there is legislative text of this $1.75 trillion mega bill and so getting back to president biden he has to figure out how to get his members on board. because even though they're not voting on this $1.75 trillion bill today, they did want to vote on the other roads, bridges, highway, legislation. and i still at this point in the morning, it's still early, i don't see how they get that vote, steph. >> we're not going to have that legisl

sinema in a fine bit of trolling he seems to be enjoying the fact that kyrsten sinema with whom he is allied on infrastructure is the boss. it is very mischievous of senator romney. >> it is. he is as you said accurately trolling democrats because there are so many democrats that do feel as though manchin and sinema are pulling the strings and controlling a lot of what is happening and progressives have argued that they are a huge chunk of the caucus which they are. >> they've never been more powerful. >> and yet they feel as though they have compromised a lot, gone down from 3.5 trillion to potentially 1.75 trillion. they are not necessarily happy. i want to mention what the white house is arguing right now to the hill is marsha fudge just met with members of the congressional black caucus and their argument was don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. she is saying now isn't the time to demand everything in the build back better bill and said look there are all these other priorities and she argued that maybe democrats made them too large whether hr 1 the elections reform bil

breaking tonight, senator kyrsten sinema confronted by activists again over her skepticism for the democrats massive spending plan. first in the bathroom at arizona state university and this time the senator was accosted at reagan national airport before she touched down. it also happened on border plane to washington. details coming up in a lab report. plus, more nba players speaking out defending their personal medical decision. pushing back against vaccine mandates. we will talk one-on-one with one of those players about his reasons. jonathan isaac, of the orlando magic, is just minutes away. and from homeless in seattle to moving on, i $1.9 trillion federal covid relief package is helping dozens of homeless in the emerald city move up from tents to high-rise apartments with beautiful views of the space needle and puget sound. we begin tonight with the ongoing inviting months democrats of the massive spending plan and the activists ambushes of moderates who oppose the party's embrace of things left-wing. kevin corke has the latest on all about tonight. good evening. >> good evening. it is

joe manchin of west virginia and kyrsten sinema of arizona. those two senators also deeply opposed to another issue biden opened the door on at the cnn town hall. >> when it comes to voting rights, so i'm clear, you would entertain the notion of doing away with the filibuster on that one issue; is that correct? >> and maybe more. >> reporter: for the moment, biden not willing to go down that path. >> if in fact i get myself into at this moment the debate on the filibuster, i lose at least three votes right now to get what i have to get done on the economic side of the equation. >> reporter: and the white house for now choosing only to tease what may come. >> we'll have more to say about this in the coming weeks. >> reporter: white house officials also moving to walk back this commitment in the effort to ease the ongoing supply chain crunch. >> would you consider the national guard to help with the supply chain issue? >> yes, absolutely, positively, i would do that. >> reporter: that's not something that's on the table at all. >> requesting the

kyrsten sinema or joe manchin? >> i don't think it was ever going to be 3.5 trillion. both of them said that when they started this. and keep in mind, when the budget reconciliation passed, that was a ceiling to start negotiations. that wasn't democrats coming together and saying this is what the number will be. what senator manchin said let's figure out what we need to spend to support our country and what programs are needed and then figure out how to pay for it. i think both of them have proven they're deal makers, both at the heart of the last package, in the covid bill that passed the previous year. i think both of them want to get something done. it's who they are. it's why they're in the smat. >> all right, susan, republicans helped craft the infrastructure bill, they helped pass it, and released a statement expressing their disappointment over the vote delay. what's their next move, would you say? >> well, it's interesting, in your lead-in kendis, you said a standoff is going on and we will talk about the republicans being involved. no that was just the standof

and kyrsten sinema, we have not -- we're not done with negotiations. we're still in this. and i can tell you what our shared values are is making sure that families can get back to work. that they see themselves, i felt seen last night in the town hall when the president talked about moving his dad back into his house to make ends meet and be able to provide that care. when i first came to congress, i was caring for two very sick parents and three young children with my husband. these are the struggles that americans are seeing. so let's make sure that everyone pays their full share, their full share in taxes, and let's make sure that we continue to put these policies together. whether it is driving down the cost of healthcare, driving down the cost of home care and child care. making sure that we are reducing the tax burden on families, like we did with the child tax credit. these are important policies to meet this moment of economic, racial and climate justice for the country. >> you're working on a bill that i think will resonate with a lot of women, called the pump ac

it was a bipartisan negotiation in the senate between rob portman and kyrsten sinema. the republican leaders including kevin mccarthy and steve scalise were aggressively working this week to whip votes against that infrastructure package. they don't want to give democrats any sort of legislative victory. they don't want to give joe biden the legislative victory heading into 2022. obviously there are a handful of republicans that would effect from the leadership that think infrastructure is too important for their districts. we are not hearing much from republicans because they are just happy watching democrats fight amongst themselves. when the other team is fighting among themselves, you stay out of it. that has been a good political strategy in the past. that looks like what kevin mccarthy is pursuing at the moment. host: we would like to thank scott one, senior staff writer for the hill, for coming on this morning and walking us through the next steps of the negotiation. thanks so much. guest: thank you for having me. host: we want to know what you think about the n

he is up there with kyrsten sinema. and he tweeted this out while president biden was doing his speech, as if to say don't trust this lady, right. they've already talked about the fact that republicans, that they love what manchin and sinema are doing because they think it will help them get the other senate seat in arizona. listened look at tweets from republicans. alex mooney tweeting about spending, as if they ever cared about that. other people tweeting they don't care about fiscal sanity. they were letting trump spend whatever he wanted. talk about the republican side. because the democrats are messy, but the republicans are absent. >> the republicans are absent. and worse, republicans are only focused on spreading trump's lies and peddling everything that he wants them to peddle because he's got them in a vice grip. but also, that picture of them playing in our faces like come on, sinema. why allow yourself to be used like a prop like that by this guy, a dude with an elevator in his car garage. this is the image y

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sadly he spent more time in the bathroom and jerks harassing kyrsten sinema. you told me this was a story you are looking forward to, what do you think? >> really? i don't even know what restless anal syndrome is. >> greg: you aren't even going to do the show until you heard about it. >> i have to tell you, i will ask dr. fauci about it because doesn't dr. fauci have the answer to every single covid problem we have? let's ask him if he has restless anal syndrome, because i think he does. >> greg: doctor, after a certain age doesn't everyone have restless anal syndrome? >> and 68, so i don't want to answer that. but dr. fauci you mentioned, if you have had covid and science says its superior immunity to vaccination but you still should be vaccinated to so you're supposed to have a double indemnity. i don't understand, i've been vaccinated but i didn't get covid so now i'm supposed to go get covid so i have both? >> andy you have restless anal syndrome. >> greg: way to bring it back to the top. talk freely about restless anal syndrome. >> i am so thankful i don'

sinema have advocated. understanding the politics of congress there are limitations. and those to the same point that if you spend one. $9 trillion and they have one and then to push further and further $6 trillion as the opening bid in the social spending package and now on top of everything else there was a larger ideological war and then to keep demanding more and more so the compromise has to beth in the direction of the moderate because of the makeup of congress simply because senator manchin and senator sinema one —- senator sinema have that degree of additional spending. are watching live cove on c-span.

kyrsten sinema votes with it just 69% of the time. she's completely different than john mccain when it comes to voting with her party. >> we'll see who's reading that correctly, her or the others. harry, thank you so much. >> we'll see. see you. >>> still ahead, captain kirk is about to get beamed up into space or back into space depending on what you believe. how blue origin is lifting off with 90-year-old actor william shatner next. i can make an indoorsy person, outdoorsy. i can turn anyone into a beach bum. i make memories for people i don't even know yet. i am a vrbo host. ♪ ♪ what happens when we welcome change? we can transform our workforce overnight out of convenience, or necessity. we can explore uncharted waters, and not only make new discoveries, but get there faster, with better outcomes. with app, cloud and anywhere workspace solutions, vmware helps companies navigate change-- meeting them where they are, and getting them where they want to be. faster. vmware. welcome change. is struggling to manage your type 2 diabe

but do you have a top line from kyrsten sinema? we just heard our reporter julie tsirkin say the public is frustrated, they do not know where she stands. but inside, do you? >> i have not heard from her, what her top line is. we know from senator manchin where he stands, you know, the understanding that he has into senator schumer to help move the ball a bit. but i have not heard, it is not that she does not have, one i have not heard a top line from her. >> congressman, when you guys went to washington and got sworn in earlier this year, and you had a democratic house and senate, did you expect it would be this difficult to get things passed? >> i knew it would be tough. we all talked about what it is like, to have really thin margins. to have a three vote margin in the house, a zero vote margin in the senate. we talked about it in the abstract, this is what it is like you have to govern with such thin margins. but, you know, one of the things that happened in washington is we focus so much on the process, that we forget that the

. >> the real villan of this whole unfolding drama is kyrsten sinema, who won't make progressives an offer. kyrsten sinema won't even say anything about what she wants, what she's willing to accept, what sort of concessions she would accept. >> senate democrats joe manchin and kyrsten sinema continue to hold the party's agenda hostage. ( siren ) >> senator sinema, come on out. here i am! we want to get those hostages out safely. what is it you want? >> what do i want? yeah, just say something you want so we can start negotiating. >> i don't know what i want. you want aan

kyrsten sinema you see the same thing. there is a direct line from corporate funding and lobbying of congress and these measures being left out of bills. >> well, could i say that this is why we have to get campaign finance reform done in our country. this is why we have to pass the freedom to vote act. you know, we often as we talk about the freedom to vote act focused on the provisions to set basic national standards for voting but a big part of that bill is also to root out the corrupt, secret money that get poured into our elections without any transparency or anybody even knowing where it is coming from. i think we have to change that if we want to change the way washington works and get the kind of results we really have to get. >> yes we do. let's talk about voting rights. last week the freedom to vote right failed in the senate disastrously for democracy. i interviewed you in september when senator manchin was still trying to get bipartisan support for that bill. let's listen to what you said last month on the show

conservatives the and joe manchin and kyrsten sinema are using against the bill stuck in congress. they say if the government puts that much into economy, stuff will cost more. interest rate may also need the increase. this is a lot. it's important to understand. it's the basis of the debate on capitol hill right now and it affects you, joining me now is the former economist for the sec, the securities and exchange commission. she now serves as co-president of alliance partners. that was a lot. tell me what i got wrong or missed. >> well, i think you got everything right. if we can go back one moment. i love the way you described speaking about the debt ceiling. it's so easy to make this ab tract. at the end of the day i find fascinating, at least in the back of my head, there is not this mysterious concept the government is congress. congress controls how much we spendp they have the authority. they control how much we earn as you said taxation.

are you optimistic that senators manchin and kyrsten sinema, who are programs the most high profile senators with concerns about this measure, do you think they can be brought to yes and have you had discussions with them that lay out the case that you just offered to make? >> look, i do believe we're going to get to yes at the end of the day, and that end of the day is going to be in the weeks ahead, not the months ahead. because of the urgency that was laid out. i mean the flooding that i spoke to, maybe didn't impact west virginia, but there will be other priority elements in the infrastructure package that my friend senator manchin will want and prioritize and senator kyrsten sinema, representing arizona, is also familiar with the wildfires and the increasing heat, and for all of us, i mean to look at the most recent report issued by the leading scientists on climate change, that it's not just 25 years from now, and the potential impact of a 1.5 degree increase in average temperature, but again, the impact that we're seeing now, we need to act with urgency, we need to act boldly. that's

sinema and that is key because right now think of it this way with house progressives on one side, kyrsten sinema and joe manchin on the other. and they need to build some trust because the house progressives are saying, look. we don't want to move forward if we don't have more assurances from the two senators they'll stand by this bill and of course the two senators have wanted to see the text as well. it is now out. so the question now is does that move forward tonight? or is this days in the making? we'll find out. >> thank you. >>> in a few minutes i'll speak to one of the progressives live. before then let's talk with u.s. secretary of energy jennifer granholm. great to see you as always. speaker pelosi is telling members of her caucus don't embarrass president biden by voting down this infrastructure bill. but since biden announced the framework of the build back better act progressive congresswoman cory bush said she felt bamboozled and said manchin and sinema are not acting in good faith and congresswoman talib said hell no for the infrastructure bill if it comes to vote today alon

>> if you start off, joe manchin one of the most important senators along with kyrsten sinema, to get their vote. he's at 1.5 trillion for the social safety net package and you have bernie sanders and others who are now around 3.5 trillion. my guess is it winds up closer to the manchin number frankly because they need him more. it doesn't go anywhere without 50 democratic votes in the senate, it doesn't get passed, so yeah, probably close to that, but i do think that it's worth taking kyrsten sinema's statement, pam, because i think that is important. look, nancy pelosi promised on the record publicly house democratic moderates r, who by e way are usually the most in danger on re-elections there would be a vote. then they changed it. well, the legislative day was going and it's friday. they pushed it again. they have to pass something here or those moderates in these districts where donald trump won or narrowly lost, you got to have something to show voters. a lot of the liberals, alexandria ocasio-cortez, she's not losing her seat. they're no no danger. the house is just a three-seat

joe manchin and kyrsten sinema they say that price tag is way too high today senator manchin said he would agree only to spend $1.5 trillion that's his max but it's less than half of what president biden and the progressives want. >> my thought has been 1.5 because i believe in my heart that what we can do and with the needs we have right now and what we can afford to do without basically changing our whole society to an entitlement mentality. i'm willing to come from zero to 1.5. >> yeah. speaker pelosi has previously said she will never bring a bill to the floor if it doesn't have the votes to pass. it's 7:00. nothing on infrastructure. not yet. earlier today speaker pelosi struck an optimistic tone. >> i think we're in a good place right now. we're making progress. we're on a path to win the vote. i don't want to even consider any options other than that. >> well, the white house says president biden's priority is to pass both bills. in a moment we'll go to cnbc's kayla tausche live at the white house. first our senior congressional correspondent ylan mui is on the hill where they

you have two democrats in joe manchin and kyrsten sinema who are functionally independent. these are not partyline voters. their constituencies are to the middle and to the right. these will not be easy votes to get even with the typical horsetrading that goes on. you look at the house, and pelosi and biden can only afford to lose three house democrats, and you already have a couple on the record who are very wary about the spending levels that democrats are proposing. there are dozens more democrats who say they want to pass something but they know that they are in competitive districts where the political tide is turning against them and are very wary about inflation, government spending, and when they hear that democrats want to pass $3.5 trillion in additional spending on top of covid relief, on top of the bipartisan proposal for infrastructure that costs over $1 trillion. i don't think this will be an easy lift. i don't think there's anything better than a 50-50 chance that democrats get this through even though the incentives suggest they need to get something done to

and they're not holding back on their criticism of manchin or kyrsten sinema. i want to bring in the correspondent for the washington -- "the wall street journal" editorial board coming to manchin's defense a bit with this headline. joe manchin's intervention. it reads in part, quote, democrats may be angry, but as the days go by, they may recognize mr. manchin is doing them a favor. with biden advocating for the left, the virginian is providing a reality check on progressive excess. passing the reconciliation bill could cost democrats congress next year. what do you think? >> well, look, i think that democrats are trying to pass a bill that the voters did not deliver them a mandate to pass. and you look at the majorities that voters gave the democratic party, they have a five-seat majority in the house which is why speaker pelosi who is really a masterful legislative technician is having a devil of a time bringing her caucus together. the centrists and the liberals can brick everything to a halt. that's how slim her majority is. and in the u.s. senate, democra

but nobody know what kyrsten sinema is standing for, what she wants. she's been very close to the vest to say the least, about what she wants in this process. the fact remains, though, whether or not it's voting rights, whether or not it's build back better, whether or not it's infrastructure, they have to pass something. and i think that's one of the biggest things. from what i gathered last night, infrastructure is in a bow. that's done, ready to go. but you have this reconciliation bill where there are literally people, democrats in this country, against free community college. we are negotiating against ourselves. there was once a saying when republicans get in power, then they fall apart. they don't know how to lead. we saw that with the alternative to the affordable care act. now democrats are in power and we are tripping over ourselves. i have never seen anything like it. it is the most frustrating political process i have ever seen. the fact is we are against things that we promised. >> on taiwan, harwood, he was asked what taiwan would do. and

uncomfortable with the number, but okay with the taxes, and kyrsten sinema, it's going to be a while and that's the big takeaway i have for today's show, this is not going to get resolved next week, and let's hope it gets resolved by christmas. >> christmas, and so we'll table that for later. here in california, governor newsom mandated the covid vaccine for school-aged children, and you are obviously in d.c., is there any murder or reaction to this? >> not beyond -- i mean, i could tell you this, the most interesting place that you sort of see it reverberate is in the governor's case. i saw a great interview with his manager, and he said the group they focused on is the unvaccinated with the vaccinated, and the groups that are for this are the vaccinated, and one candidate is for mandates, and one is pro vaccination but against the mandate. so what you are seeing with governor newsom, i think you will see a lot of democrats in statewide races following suit with similar questions. >> we hope you join chuck for this morning's "meet the press." as was mentioned, he will have senator b

senators joe manchin, kyrsten sinema, their red lines on issues from medicare coverage to tax hikes on the wealthy remain sticking points. >> president biden still expressing optimism in his cnn town hall last night, optimism that, in fact, the finish line is near. take a listen. >> one of the other things democrats are looking to do is expand medicare to include dental, vision, and hearing. will all three of those still be covered? >> that's a reach, and the reason why it's a reach is not -- i think it's a good idea, it's not that costly in relative terms. but here's the thing. mr. manchin is opposed to that. >> there's a lot of democrats in the house, in the senate, who are confused about where senator sinema actually stands on things. do you know where she stands? >> first of all, she's smart as the devil, number one. number two, she's very supportive of the environmental agenda in my legislation. where she's not supportive is she says she will not raise a single penny in taxes on the corporate side and/or on wealthy people, period. >> joining us now cnn chief congressional correspo