roosevelt. so even though it was not a popular thing to, you know, change the third branch of government, it could have been done, it seems to me, the it had been handled differently. >> and it's not just self-sabotage. there are external events. there are a couple of things that sort of happened in that first 30, 40 days. announcement of the plan in february. by early march the senate hearings are starting. the supreme court justices send a letter to the chairman of the committee that basically says we're current on our work. so they blow up the cover story. but then the supreme court in mid march starts to hand down decisions upholding new deal laws. all of a sudden this supreme court problem is receding. a state minimum wage is upheld, the national labor relations act is upheld. social security is argued that spring by robert jackson and charles la zahn sky, and its constitution toally is upheld. so that kind of confluence of events, i think, really made it much less necessary to do something

. >> hello, welcome to another edition at at home with roosevelt. i'm the director of the franklin roosevelt director in new york and were recording the session on december 17th, which is constitution day. what better way to celebrate constitution day and talk about the supreme court with two outstanding experts on the subject no president had a more impact on supreme court than fdr, eight justices that he appointed during his and ministration helped change american democracy for the better in the actually knew them during his first term because of part of the extreme frustration for him and will talk about that later. the role has changed over the years and certainly today for an essential role in our political process but make most of the no mistake it is been political so with me today is john professor of law, st. john's university and a fellow is a robert h jackson center in the biographer of jackson and writer of the popular website read and discovered editor and jackson's acclaimed 2003, book, and insiders portrait of roseville in the last ne

churchill gave the model to president roosevelt, and the roosevelt presidential lie then transfer thed -- library then transferred it to the eisenhower presidential library. so we are very proud to share with -- this with the public. thank you. >> i think the table is one of those objects where you realize the history that happened right there, the men standing around the table making decisions with tens of millions of lives, and eisenhower writing a note saying if anything goes wrong, it's my fault. it's so dramatic. >> it really is dramatic. and you know that he wrote the rough date on that piece of paper, he wrote july 5th. no one really knows why. we don't know if it was they have beens or -- we just don't know. but to see that piece of paper, to see that graphite and know that it was written by his hand, it was from his heart, it's an incredibly moving piece of paper. >> so you put tremendous effort into developing and designing this new current exhibit at the library. what is your favorite part of it? >> i think for me the most important piece of our development is to share this

roosevelt and washington. two of those present served and perhaps the biggest crises america has seen, civil war and then world war ii in the great depression. that gave them an opportunity to do things other presidents who served and calm times might not have to do. did not disseminate meant those challenges they could potentially do others could not. this is something clinton hasn't lamented. after 911 clinton was said to have privately said he wished he would have been a president at that time because to be a great president you had to have a signature moment of leadership and he never had the opportunity to do so. the third problem is presidential greatness is not set in stone. we rate president, those ratings are going to change over time as new information emerges and as our own values change. an example of a president has ranking has gone down over time would be john kennedy. when john kennedy died he was extremely popular pretty died under tragic circumstances in the first appraisal of his presidency t

and the roosevelt presidential library been transferred it to eisenhower presidential library so we are very proud too share this with our public. >> i think the planning tables one of those objects were you realize the history that happened rightli in their and te decisions they were making and tens of thousands of lives were hanging in the balance and eisenhower would handwrite a note saying that if anything went wrong, it is my fault, that is so dramatic. >> and you knowing that he wrote the wrong date on the paper, july for the nobody knows why you know if it was nerves or we just don't know. but to see that piece of paper, and is see that graphite on the paper and know that was written by his hand from his heart, is an incredibly moving piece of paper. >> you took printed and sent incredible effort to put together this what you're part of it rated. >> i think me the most important piece of this development is to share this story within a new group of people who do not have a personal connection to world war ii and how do we explain the whole time. that the war happened in hadle

this is often a roosevelt argument and the great accomplishment is that he ended the great depression and is that true. well not really so things that roosevelt deal did certainly help the united states set itself along the path for recovery. the work programs were needed in the aftermath of the start of the great depression in his financial legislation helps out the context for more stable going forward but by 1937 and fallen back into a massive recession it and backup around 20 percent had the thing that really close for the united states out of this is world war ii. but can we fairly say that roosevelt ended the depression and this type people think he's a great president but similarly, some scholars have said the right-handed winning the cold war is the greatest accomplishment of any president in the postwar and war. in did he when the cold war, well not really, do you do things to and the cold war, absolutely. increased expenditure including the strategic defensive issues, and a defense system and the soviet union engaging and at one point they were no longer capable of doing so.

why did they hate roosevelt what was the issue? the real issue behind this is they believed franklin roosevelt was ultimately setting the stage for the rise of the antichrist. diabolical world leader who's going to take power to the ends of times. they were convinced we are living at the end of history. so in their minds and their magazines and on the radio stations they were continuously looking for signs that would tell us how close we were to what the bible describes as the rapture, the armageddon the rise of the antichrist and the second coming of jesus. ultimately they felt fdr was preparing the 9 cents for those events where there is some debate among them whether or not he was doing it consciously and explicitly like was he purposely working for the devil because that's what he wanted to do or was he naÏve just not really aware behind the decisions he was making. roosevelt was a problem so let's talk a little bit might even general goals were growing and power all try to watch my language, i confuse the terms they use for t

roosevelt. the reason this has not gotten as much attention as it should, is that there has been a real problem with historiography. falwellthere is a sense that whn jerry falwell came on the scene, and organize the moral majority, that it was than that white evangelicals became critical. that's wrong. this myth has perpetuated itself and continue to spread. that evangelicals were apolitical until the last couple of generations. when i will show you is that how there was a new kind of evangelical activism inspired that fermented itself into real hatred for franklin d. roosevelt. so why did they hate roosevelt? what was the issue. the issue behind this was that they believed that franklin d. roosevelt was ultimately setting the stage for the rise of the anti christ. the diabolical world leader who is going to take power in the end times. they were believed and going to convinced that we are living at the end of history, and that we are living at the end of history. in their minds, and their churc

. >> those qualities that eisenhower presented the main roosevelt to sam and their nation in north africa and then for the invasion of normandy and d day and what was it about eisenhower really attracted fdr right. >> i think it makes sense to point out that amazing relationship and fox connor, took him under his wings and helped him develop some of his military lessons are his military knowledge. fox connor mentionson eisenhower to general marshall and general marshall introduce eisenhower to fdr as well. >> and marshall was the chief tf staff at the point where they had to the leader for the invasion was always going to be marshallll but it ended up being eisenhower's and they had a complicated relationship. >> but i don't think that fdr felt that he could do without marshall in washington at that time and marshall was an incredible administrator and sounding board for fdr. >> one of the first important meetings between the two of them took place in casablanca after the north africa invasion and it was a difficult time for eisenhower he was not sure whether he was going to get fired or

roosevelt? the real f issue behind this is they believed franklin roosevelt was ultimately setting the stage for the rise of the antichrist. this t diabolical world leader o was going to take power in the end times. so they believed, they were convinced that we were living at the end of history, and that we are living at the end of history. and so in their minds, in their churches and in their magazines and on their radio stations, they were continuously looking for signs that would tell us how we were to what the bible describes as the rapture, the battle ofma armageddon, the ris ofof the antichrist, and the second coming of jesus. and ultimately they came to believe that fdr was really he preparing the united states forr those events and there was en debate as whether or not he was doing it consciously and w explicitly. was he purposely working with the devil or was he just a naivs dupe, just not really aware of the geopolitical spiritual events behind the decisions he was making, and they nev

go back to the end of the roosevelt administration. what was happening on the court that made this a special circumstance? >> on like truman nominees to the court, they are well known by many americans certain certainly anyone who suffer there with your law school. as a profound jurors in the joints and pillars of the west. they did not like each other. perhaps, they did not get along. they agreed on media policy but not in too much else. it is also a matter fact they personally came to dislike each other and areas really had to work closely together without the semblance that justices have now. they had clerks but not what we had today. they had to work more closely together. and suspect this the supreme court ended up with a few justices think that justice wanted to be president himself. therefore is perhaps skewing his vote had to be the finest writer ever on the supreme court. he slowed his writing ability intact. and he wanted to be president jackson just wants to beat chief justice. there's all these interesting battles happening

and churchill gave the model to president roosevelt and roosevelt presidential library then transferred into the eisenhower presidential library so we are so veryy proud to shae this with our public. >> i think the planning tables on the objects where you realize that history that happened right there of men who were making the decisions making tens of thousands of lives hang in the balance and eisenhower and hand write a note that wrong, it is my fault. that is so dramatic. t >> and you know that he wrote the wrong date and the paper, nobody really knows why he wrote july 5th, we don't know if it was nerves are we just don't know but to see that piece of paper, and is see that graphite on the paper and know that it was written by his hand, from his heart, it's an incredibly moving piece of paper. >> you put a lot of time into developing this exhibit at the library and what is your favorite part of this. >> i think the most important piece of our development is to share this story with a new group of people whowh do not hae a personal connection to world war ii. how do we explain the fu

he found it advisable not to accept it is nomination and person roosevelt like wendell willkie led a wendell -- trust understood death was about to claim him before his architect of the peace was finished. of all those he would deem worthy and surely not harry truman. it was wendell willkie presumed to be in good health but dead at 52 on the eve of 1944 election. the republican party's internationalism is destined to swerve away from it optimistic origins toward a steadily anti-communism that became indistinguishable from imperialism. instead of the one world ideal the true object tree wood and in the american century. it undoubtedly would position him at the center of post-war international reconstruction and domestic politics and now contra factual to suggest that wendell willkie's commitment to power block understanding into coexistence is first-hand familiarity with the dramatis personae of eastern europe the middle east and asia that expressed itself in vigorous councils of moderation and reproach against the cold war policies that rapidly displaced if i take charter ideals dnf

if he knew he could only win the war with america, roosevelt -- i have a lot of admiration for roosevelt, but he wanted to get reelected first and foremost. the way he played politics with the war at a time when the u.s. could have played a more aggressive role is a reflection on the fact that we were also very antiwar country. we had people like charles lindbergh talk about what a great man hit there was and how beautiful the nazi war machine was. as a nation, we were not in favor of the war. he had to be very cautious about how he managed his relationship. >> 10 days after churchill's speech the nazis advanced on paris. the references, but did the french even attempt to defend their city at that point? >> the french army was done. there was no reason to defend the city. the night before they marched in triumphantly. the germans took time outside the city gates to shower and shave and polish their uniforms and the rifles. meanwhile, the people of paris were -- there was just a mass migration of people trying to get into the south of france and get into the war. the city of paris were re

roosevelt is not just regular american president but that roosevelt is up to something far more sinister. and so this framed the way they understood what he was doing and more broadly new deal liberalism. they looked at specific programs and became particularly concerned those were helping prepare americans for the end times. one was a national recovery act for businesses that participated in the nra. they had to show its symbol, the blue eagle. so they believed one of things that would prepare for the end times would be showing a symbol. the mark of the beast and thought the blue eagle was possibly the mark of the beast or at least preparing americans to understand you have to show this mark to do business. and looked of the social security and they were horribly critical of it. letters to roosevelt telling him it was a socialist and communist program and contrary to the teaches of the word of god. they were worried about his internationalist sensibilities, his efforts to join the world court disturbed them. anything that threatened american autonomy and sovereignty for them was a stepp

back to 1942, roosevelt left going out on prepresidential yachts. on the right, it's one example in oakland california. he loved going to get away from the white house. curious hobbies and interests. it is 41, 42 mostly netted states. >> yeah -- >> he said finding a place where i can go and get away. they had to find some place drivable nearby. because of a new deal bring in the later progressive ministration. it puts money back into industry. it was a recreational demonstration, also known as camp number three. we want to haul three, this is my shangri-la. the roosevelt named it shangri-la. a utopian experience in the mountain. that was its name. so, eisenhower remade. and that's how we know it today. when a describe camp david for a lot of our viewers and listeners. they haven't visited him probably will not visit. can you paint a picture of what the camp is like? >> sure, i will try. imagine a national park maintained by the national park service about 1800 feet elevation and the spring and summer months in a rush canopy. a perfectly manicured ya

then churchill gave the model to president roosevelt and the roosevelt presidential library and transported to the eisenhower presidential libraries and were still very proud to share this with our public and thank you. >> i think that they're planning table is one of those objects where you realize the history to happen right there, the mentioning around and making tens of thousands of lives hanging in the balance and that eisenhower had to hand write a note that if anything goes wrong, it is my fault, that is so dramatic reading. >> is really dramatic and you know the name of the wrong date, he wrote july 5th, nobody knows why, if it was nerves are we just don't know. but to see that piece of paper, and to see that graphite on the paper and no that was written by his hand, as for his heart and is incredibly moving piece of paper. >> you put tremendous effort into designing this new exhibit. what is your favorite part. >> i think for me the most important piece of our development is to share the story with a new group of people who do not have a personal connection to world war ii. so how

roosevelt. and roosevelt is famous for the so-called fireside chats. an or not thing to know though -- an important thing to know about the fireside chats, a lot of people think he did them every week. no. no, no. he did them on essential occasions. there weren't as many fireside chats as people think there were. roosevelt had a really good voice for if radio, and and e understood that with the tireside chat you didn't -- fireside chat you didn't talk the same way as you did when you were to rating to a large -- orating to a large are crowd. people would get turned off way that. fdr understood that's not the way you talk on the radio. he also used radio effectively on certain special occasions. and some of his major speeches were broadcast. roosevelt gave acceptance speeches. you hay say, yeah, so? roosevelt flew to the convention in 1932 and accepted the nomination this person which was something people just didn't do this those days. wow, this is something special n. 1936 he gave an acceptance speech again. really the speeches would not if become reg

when we think of presidents and the electronic media we are thinking of franklin d roosevelt and roosevelt is famous for the fire side chats. people think you get them every week. no, no. he gave them on special occasions. there weren't as many fire site chats as people think there were but roosevelt had a very good voice for radio and he understood in the fire side chats that you didn't talk the same way as you did when you were waiting to a large crowd. a lot of times politicians of the era, amazing speech talking into the radio microphone and people would get turned off by that. fdr understood that's not the way that you talk on the radio. he also used radio effectively on certain special occasions and some of his major speeches were broadcast, roosevelt gave acceptance speeches and you may say, yeah, so and the answer is this was an innovation. roosevelt flew to the convention in 1932 and accepted the nomination in person which was something people just didn't do in those days, wow, this is something special. in 1916 he gave an acceptance speech again. really acceptance speeches as we

it was started in 1942 by president roosevelt. because 60% of the crew are navy sea bees, a naval officer is always the commanding officer. in 1998 i was put on a short list of officers to be considered, went to the white house, interviewed with simmons, then the executive director of the white house military office, president clinton, visited the camp, was interviewed by the staff, a week later got the call. >> amazing. tell us a little bit about your own personal history with camp david. >> i knew what it was. i had visited once as a violate officer with the sea bees when i was stationed there in the 1990s. i left thinking, man, that's kind of a difficult place to work, it would be weird to work there some day. i put it away and went on for the next few tours. and lo and behold, as i said, in 1998 i was short listed, interviewed, and put in near the end of president clinton's second term. >> how long were you there? >> just over two years. the last year and a half of president clinton, first eight months of president george w. b

that ish roosevelt inside of aspen. and that stone hearth was still there and that chandelier is still there. president truman only went ten times in his tenen year, preferd to go toir key west. the president's come there so that isl. the first time fdr. president carter made it famous in 1978 with the sadat of egypt and israel. during my time, 2000, middle east peace summit president clint brought yasser arafat and the prime minister of israel to try to replicate a similar thing. 2012, president obama hosted the g 8 conference at camp david. the single time that any -- most worldid leaders have been at ca david at any one time. but theri since dent i want to back to is april 1961. president kennedy inaugurated in january,ho succeeding president eisenhower, bay of pigs is being planned behind the scenes with the cia gss and the u.s. govern andst others, passed off to the administration and you see this photo in the top right that becameni a pulitzer prize winni photo called serious steps and what is interesting from thi

the history begins really with franklin roosevelt. he loved going out on the potomac to get away from the white house and just secure his hobbies, his interests and talk to world leaders and staff. but 41, 42 concerned about the uboat sightings and he said find me a place i can go to get away from the white house. of course this is before a helicopter squadron existed. you've got to find a place to drive nearby. interestingly because of the new deal bringing us out of the depression and part of the civilian conservation corp which put money back into the country and rebuilt a lot of the roads and parks there was this place called the recreational demonstration area also known as camp number three. roosevelt was given three sites nearby for visits. he went to all three. when he came to camp number three he looked at it and said this is it, and this is my shangri-la. so roosevelt named it that implying a utopian, mysterious place in the mountains. and so that was its name until as we know president eisenhower renamed it after his grands

joe roosevelt amended chandra law applying a utopian mysterious place of the mountain. he had that whimsical nature about naming things bridget that's what its name. as mail president eisenhower renamed after his grandson, camp david. that is how we know it today. >> you describe kempton for a lot of our viewers and listeners who i'm sure have never visited camp david in person. i'm probably will not visit camp david. when you paint a picture of what the camp is like? >> i will try. great partners of ours 1800 feet elevation, on the spring and summer months. a leafy canopy perfectly manicured yards, the road meanders to the camp. in these cabins we presidential walk-through all the cabins have this oak plank siding with the certain shade of green paint. all the roofs are cedar shake shingles. these very rustic, very leafy, very fresh. but at night i find it particularly surreal definitely quiet, no white except pathway light. no noise except for a squirrel in the tree no lights, no noises from below eerily quiet peaceful. inside the campus is called cedar just from the