they could relate to generous coming out on abc on national tv because she was the girl next door that they had fallen in love with for five seasons. they could relate to some of the people who were on the front lines leading the efforts and the marches. they knew that these young people with their children and grandchildren -- it is harder on the issue of race. in this country, we have a difficult history. i love the united states of america because i know that there is no country in the world where my story would be possible . i revere the founding fathers in spite of their flaws because they made it possible to actually fix the problems they didn't have the courage or the will to. i believe that we have to deal with that fundamental history, the contradictions and complexities of this country. darren: there is no doubt that being a public company ceo today is one of the hardest jobs in america. along with being president of a university, there is no harder job i do think that this move that the business roundtable has started to advance away from scholer -- shareholder capitalism to

they could relate to ellen degeneres coming out on abc on national tv because she was the girl next door they had fallen in love with for five seasons. they could relate to some of the people who were on the front lines leading the efforts in the and the marches. they knew that these young people wear their children and grandchildren. it is harder on the issue of race and it is because in this country, we have a difficult history. i love the united states of america because i know that there is no country in the world were my story would be possible. i revere the founding fathers in spite of their flaws because they made possible to actually fix the problems they did not have the courage or the will to. and so, i believe that we have to deal with that fundamental history, the contradictions and complexity of this country. ♪ david: let's talk about how you became the head of the ford foundation and your background. you are not from new york city. is that right? darren: i am to fill enough from new york city. i was born in charity hospital in louisiana, a little town not far from lafayet