so again, this is a test for russia. if it is serious about resolving the situation in eastern ukraine, and to resolve it diplomatically and peacefully, minsk is the way to do it. we will fully support efforts to implement the minsk agreements by both parties, and again, we'll see if russia is willing to do that. mr price: simon. reporter: mr. secretary, we'd like to get your assessment of events in kazakhstan, and how that potentially weighs on these meetings with russian officials next week. and more specifically, u.s. officials have raised kind of questions about the csto troops deployment there. what is -- what specifically is the concern about those troops going in? is there an implication that the kazakhstan government hasn't actually invited them in, or how do you see that? secretary blinken: thanks. so first, we are very concerned about the ongoing state of emergency that exists in kazakhstan. secretary blinken: . so first, we are very concerned about the ongoing state of emergency that exists in kazakhstan. we'v

and if russia chose tojoin, fine, russia chose tojoin, fine, russia canjoin turn. i am not saying we are trying to make it about us and then we wanted to be europe and the us, and russia is the one trying to pull that away and break up the alliance. �* ., pull that away and break up the alliance. . ., , ., , ., , alliance. and do you see it, as olha is asking _ alliance. and do you see it, as olha is asking there, - alliance. and do you see it, as olha is asking there, that - alliance. and do you see it, as olha is asking there, that this| olha is asking there, that this global instability has been with us for a long time and may continue for a long time? that is u- to continue for a long time? that is up to russia. _ continue for a long time? that is up to russia. i— continue for a long time? that is up to russia. i think, - continue for a long time? that is up to russia. i think, if- continue for a long time? that is up to russia. i think, if i - is up to russia. i think, ifi can step — is up to russia. i think, ifi can step in. _ is up to russia. i think,

. europe is russia's biggest. i mean, european union is russia's biggest trading partner ago in terms of nations though. china right now, it's number one. but as a block, europe, europe is more important. and there's a lot of old, a real, a business relationship, especially between mosque or russia and germany. there's a lot of connections on different levels. i mean, russian president, redeemer portion is very fluent and german and addressed the bundle stark, once speaking german. so the, the russia was always looking to, for a special relationship with germany and germ drive, very much wants to make germany a kind of hub for russia and gas supplies to all of western europe, and possibly bypassing ukraine. and that would be our kind of break up of that through a while and break up of those relationship would be very costly in terms of poetical and in terms of money to or this isn't the 1st time we've seen energy being used as a diplomatic political weapon this happened in the seventy's when opec decided it wasn't

a think of russia and the u. s. as, as equally horrible menaces in this, but they don't think either side really wants war. they think nato wants ukrainian nato, but not to actually join in any ukraine wars as article 5 would require. and they think russia wants nato out of ukraine, but doesn't actually want another afghanistan war or, or any sort of occupation. and so everybody wants a neutral ukraine, but nobody wants to say it and nobody wants to act to make it happen. and so things may spiral out of control in a way that very few people actually desire here. but david, if i could stay with you, i agree with you completely, but if things go the wrong way, who gets punished the most? it's ukraine, the country, they don't want to say once they capture. i mean, they're the ones that are on the front line here. i mean, i find it really extraordinary. they talk so much about it, but to the ukrainians that have the most to lose, at least initially david, well, at least initially is the key, right? because as scott and

how best to deter russia. for example, whether you hit them now with crushing sanctions and export controls and other measures more wait until after they invade. what kind of balance to strike between diplomacy and deterrence? but there is widespread agreement that putin is a danger that must be confronted and contained. and while there are some substantive differences between democrats and republicans on the hill, there's no doubt there is a a very solid bipartisan congressional commitment to ukraine. you saw just last week the visit in kiev of seven key senators, democrats and republicans, and there's a bipartisan house delegation there now. also work on what would be really tough legislation with senator menendez, foreign relations committee chairman has called the mother of all sanctions bill. and so far this support for ukraine appears to extend to most of the media which has been covering this unbelievably to analysts and i think to the american public, although i would caution that there are voices who

ukraine poses no threat to russia. it bears repeating it was russia that invaded ukraine in 2014 and occupies crimea to this day. it is russia that continues to fuel a war in eastern ukraine that has claimed nearly 14,000 lives and destroyed entire towns. it is russia and their proxies holding ukrainians as their prisoners and because of russia's actions, nearly 3 million ukrainians are in urgent need of humanitarian assistance. while the suffering is most acute in crimea and eastern ukraine, ukrainians everywhere have felt the effects of russia's aggression. russia has interfered in ukraine's elections and tried to undermine ukraine's democratic institutions paired russia has blocked energy and commerce, launched cyber attacks on ukraine's critical infrastructure. now, russia's actions are causing renewed crisis not only for ukraine but for all of europe and indeed and secretary blinken said for the wider world. one country cannot change the borders of another by force or did take the terms of another country's foreig

you must support russia. you must actively support russia, and you ould defend russia. sean: boikov has led groups of australian cossacks to russia where they fired guns and visited a military training facility. [gunshots] sean: in 2018, simeon boikov told a russian media outlet, "we have a unique opportunity to support russia from within an enemy state." he was rerring to australia. he said cossacks in australia could "pursue a pro-russian position, lobby politicians and members of parliament, oppose anyone who lies about russia, attacks russia, imposes sanctions. basically, they can wage an information war." sean: why do you regard australia as an enemy state? simeon: no, australia, in this context, a state which is placing sanctions against russia and behaving in an anti-russian manner, you know, in that way could be perceived that the activities are not the activities of an ally. the main thing to know is we're not against australia at all. we love australia. we will defend australia, and we'll try to defend it, and we wanna facilitate the rehabilitation of australi

. ukraine does not threaten russia. and so the idea that russia, which has attacked ukraine and has attacked other countries in the neighborhood and has taken with territory, can be a threat, is real, which is why it's important for a country like ukraine to seek to join us. so no, i don't see that being taken off the table as a possibility won't happen soon, but i don't think anyone's going to write off that possibility. pizza, when you look at the statements made by ne to european allies over the last few years over the issue of the acquaint. do you feel like you're on a confident position where if needs be the americans along with they to and europeans would be that to protect the ukrainians? very good question. let me just pick up briefly, comment on what vegetable percent and in country, what our russians finally said. you know why the russia is or is not planning to attack. don't boss let, let's be clear. let's be clear that it already has. it has a next crimea country to all international agreements, and it insti

for russia. russia has repeatedly stated it has no plans to invade ukraine. and it looks like showing even the slightest support for russia can cost you daily, given the current political climate. germany, navy chief has had to resign. after saying crimea is now part of russia and that the west has stopped. demonizing. vladimir putin bought his work spots a major diplomatic backlash. are you a correspondent pizza oliver picks up the story. vice admiral k. r. him shown by caused big shocks on saturday evening as he stood down from his role as chief of the german navy. it follows comment city made about the russian president vladimir pig and the ongoing tensions between russia, ukraine and nato. following this fall out from what he said and everything revolving around it, he felt his position had become untenable. i have just asked the federal minister of defense to release me from my duties as inspector of the navy with immediate effect. the thought was comments i made in india and security and military policy are increasingly weighing on my office in order to

united message from that while as to, to russia. and also tried that identify different issues where we can work an address and sit down and, and see if we can find a bullet way forward. do you think allies were satisfied with the u. s. russian bilateral talks on we're hearing the u. s. may have brought up some repositioning of forces in europe during those talks in not everybody's comfortable with that. well, they're not just as a motivator but declared that those meetings were not negotiations, roxanne's, and on the same as we did here in brussels or in the literature council we, we floated ideas. we were looking for ways and i and topics. and i and, and, and, and, and ways to organize the process that can show the political way forward. or what we welcome is the very close consultation between and united states and european as they consulted before the meeting in geneva, russia. they consulted afterwards. and the, and that is some people also know whether europe is at the table while europe is at the table or yesterday in the mee

let's remember is traditionally very russia friendly. the former spd chancellor sits in the board of directors of gazprom and one of the leading proponents of north stream two and this project. um should it be canceled should the german government openly declare that it will be void if russia invades ukraine. this will have a real domestic political fallout for the spd for chancellor schulz party. and these are the issues right now. unfortunately in the internal debates in germany that are being placed over our international obligations to lead on security and peace in europe. michel, you say it's all about the showdown between russia and the us. so does anything germany could do actually matter, would it make a difference. oh yes it would make a huge difference simply because if we do actually matter, would it make a difference. oh yes talk about all the possible measures the west could take if there was any conflict between russia and ukraine or a russian invasion. in in this case it is above and formal of it is germany in the first ro

and stationed near russia. this is who you can understand where rushes coming from here. but there's a, there's a whole lot more where that came from. there are passages full of in human falls hit and stupidity, for example. they call fake moscow statement that the repositioning of russian troops and russian territory means repositioning of russian troops on russian territory. brilliant. what is there more hair lies or illiteracy? i do not even want to deal with it. i know one thing for sure. this could only be published by the ministry of truth. a similar situation would be russia coming out and hysterically condemning a united states to build up in texas for example. there was, there were many other points such as another one, a fiction, or russian fiction, is that nato is surrounding washer. and here they argue that, that, no, it isn't. russia's a huge country with, with $1414.00 neighbors that a chairs, landlord, the women, and only father those a native states. well, if we look back 20 years, there was onl

what russia has done. so in the past several times when so you should be super signaled, but i think there needs to be some progress on behalf of the security offers off the west towards russia. otherwise, the russia would make its own policy incredible if it withdrew its troops right away. yeah, but it's, of course, an option that russia has in hands. also, russia depends on its international image, which is being spoiled now by western media outlets. and only russia being the aggressor. and so for russia, it may be an important move to show that they are a reliable, responsible partner, that they are only defensive in terms of their troop movements. and at the time, at the same time they right. and you can make the same arguments about the west dom and ukraine should that stop? well, definitely this should stop because it's part of the escalation strategy which leads us into nowhere. the more weapons that are delivered. busy into ukraine, more also military consultants and experts that are stationed ther

russia has a mass troops, allegedly inside of russia. russia has said in writing, look, this is a red line, couldn't set at the end of the year. press conference, this is a red line. we will not let you crane. we will not let our border area be a staging ground for advanced weapons with missiles whose flight time might be 2 or 3 minutes to their targets in russia, or to allow ukraine to be permanently in nato. so that kind of scenario can play out. that's a red line, we're not going to let that happen. and so, and as he also said with the u. s. possibly of what russia do this at the us mexican border, or the us canadian border, of course not. so again, this is an american created crisis, but one where russia actually does have to respond and actually make clear that this, in fact, is unacceptable. long term and short term for russia's national interest. you know, john went looking at the media drumbeat here and the gaff that we well that was just mentioned by biting me by just let the mass drop for a 2nd. each time you talked about one of the scenarios here he got off script. this is

listen also to russia argument. if it's interest and security objections are threatened by a further nita expansion, germans have their own term for those whose who sympathize with russia and with its president vladimir putin. they call this putin festa, none the less few people here would have supposed that such sentiments would manifest themselves at the highest levels of the german military. ah, the german admiral and far away. india fired these words like gunshots, striking mini ukrainians. right in the heart. russia can do it knows if east loses split. he really was disrespect. ah, we russia against trotter? ronny evans was gone. no committee. this is the fact the ukrainian response was swift with ukrainian ambassador firing back on twitter. german arrogance and megalomania. the german government has to change its course towards key f and q has major vitaly could go even complained that germany had committed treason against ukraine. is germany, still a trustworthy ally to ukraine? i wanna put that question in a

us, russia, rushing the nato, russia with the always be. and, you know, and now they're looking at 18 different scenarios. i mean, why don't waste the time that was. and it sounds like a level of paranoia, in my opinion, because the russian side is that, you know, if there is no, no real meaningful negotiations, no mutual understanding, then there's going to be a military technical component to this. we already told you this to happen. i mean, why did anybody the surprise go ahead? well, i think that the boys were still useful because let me remind you what the 1st time since 2014, we weren't talking series. no, there wasn't real serious stuff. i'm sorry. i have to disagree with you. i mean, what did they come out from it? ok me. this is the strategy. when we have more meetings. well, we've been having meetings for 30 years and then we'll continue. it's doubled in 5 years and we should continue talking. i'm sorry, my friend, but convince me i'm wrong. well, unfortunately, the west did not accept the rational proposals. even though that does

so his moves and cause i son, played on television all across russia. how great russia was. you know, helping their cousin friends and how strong and powerful they were. and i think that, that is with animating this and everyone here knows that you can cannot join the, you know, there is a frozen conflict, not so pros and really in ukraine. so now i cannot accept any country that is in conflict, so neither georgia nor ukraine can possibly join nato who to knows this. and so others are concerned that what he fear is more because he knows he can't join nato with these frozen conflicts. but what he fear is more is a democratic ukraine, right, on its border, and that is deep down what he is very deeply concerned about. so i think that russia under put in, i mean the next generation will be a very different leadership. so can, can we hold on how long is put in going to stay in power and you mentioned colleagues done. there's a really important lesson that put in, took away from that another to another by, of had kind of a semi retirement. and that we keep him him and his family s

that affect russia? well, everyone knows that the night, the states for some reason considers all concessions in us currency. as somehow with the united states. it tries to impose sanctions on the people with that they don't blame which, which makes transactions in dollars. let me remind you of that. iraq, was that shortly after saddam hussein switched from door in here, you know, all sales. you're starting to get money for that in euros, and just if you want, later on, iraq was born. in fact, everyone in europe is very concerned because most of the russian banks had, they were not with american bank, but when you repeat banks and now the europeans are asking, that is public. they're asking now to state to somehow soften the measures possible matters against russia. so that european banks now to me, when i was, i wanted to pick you up. if i may, i'm so sorry to jump in again. but, you know, for example, we talk about the dumping of dollars by russia. putin, as you said, has been doing this for years now.

just hours before nato said it had no certainty that russia would invade ukraine. russia's foreign minister sergey lover of spelled out clearly that moscow does not want a war. but he also noted moscow can't just stand by watching its concerns being ignored. love rob shared his thoughts during a 90 minute interview to russian journalists. among them. was archie's editor in chief margaret as some one young. here's what mister love. i've had to say. yes, this is alicia authorities configure, lets see langley. if it depends on the russian federation, then there will be no war. we don't want any wars, but we're also not allow our interest to be brutally trampled on and ignored. the foreign minister was asked many questions about the tensions about what russia is going to do about them and where ultimately this is all going to lead. when there's going to be a boy, he himself was much more diplomatic with regards to the america documents, the county proposals to russian security proposals that arrived in moscow just 2 days ago that the united states finally sent and write in which is something th

and if they didn't want to listen, russia, security comes 1st for russia, and rushes will take action, some military chemical reaction reaction to what could be deemed as a potential offensive missile system. for example, and it will be dealt with and then nato has this quandary. i mean, do we go to war over this missile system? they didn't actually invade the country. i mean, what they're doing, they goes putting everything in. i mean, this is like one big bet, and it's going to play out very, very badly, but not that it's going to have well, for russia either your thoughts. right? well, i think the, what's, what we're seeing now is a 3rd attempt throughout the presidency to negotiate this pen european security infrastructure. the 1st attempt was in 2007 during the wouldn't make a speech where he was talking about the dangers of the unit poor world and draw and clearly rushes. ledger red lines on ukraine in georgia, and that speech was actually seen as rushes own revenge just emissions. and what happens at the end of the day, year after soccer really adventurous strike south of santi

path forward should russia choose it. the secretary provided details on the u.s. and allied assistance, both military and economic to ukraine in preparation for military attack by russia, saying it remains up to russia to decide how to respond. we already either way. here are his full comments. unfortunately good afternoon, everyone. discuss the crisis and steps to de-escalate tensions and pursue diplomacy. russia had previously outlined its concerns and proposals in writing and last week i told the foreign minister that the united states would do the same. today, ambassador sullivan delivered our britain response in moscow. all totaled it sets out a serious medic path forward should russia choose it. the document was delivered and includes concerns of the united states and our allies and partners about russia's actions that undermine security and a principal and pragmatic evaluation of what russia has been raised and our own proposals where we might find common ground. we made clear that there are core principles that we

of russia do we want? what kind of boundaries are we talking about? what kind of relationship do we have with our neighboring countries? but don't you think that this time, the excuse is all the, the issue that ladiva putting is using when it comes to ukraine, could back fi compared to what happened in 2014? no, i don't think so. actually again, i'm telling you that i'm not to miss myself. we my sexual, remember the past, the recent past and what was sexual assault 2 years ago. non that is just to follow the process to do not make the same mistakes in the future. so i think it will be a great mistake. all auditions are probably united states from ukraine, if for there will be a mounting threat. and jane, danger. ok. and then from, from, from the west on, from nature towards russia. because so russia along our lessons very well. so i think that finally, i would like to say that i'm sure that there will be no, any war between thank you, nature or russia. i really appreciate that. unfortunately, we, we are ru

in 2014, russia invaded and seized crimea. in 2008, russia invaded georgia. russian troops are currently refusing to depart moldova, despite the wishes of the moldovan people and the democratically elected government. and then the donbass region of ukraine, russian backed separatist continue to foment and ignore violence towards the ukrainian people. recently russia has threatened to take military action to this -- should it's the mets not be met. if russia further invades ukraine, none of us will be able to say we didn't see it coming. and the consequences will be horrific, which is why this meeting is so important today. already russia's war in eastern ukraine has killed more than 14,000 ukrainians come nearly 3 million ukrainians, half of them were elderly people and children who need food, shelter and life-saving assistance. devastated as the situation is, it would peril in comparison to the humanitarian impact of the full-scale land invasion russia is currently planning in ukraine. over the years, russian leaders have claimed that ukraine is not a real c

and if russia chose tojoin it, fine, russia can join too. but i would say we are not trying to make it about us and them, we want it to be europe and the us, and russia is the one trying to pull that away and break up the alliance. and do you see it, as olha is asking there, that this global instability has been with us for a long time and may continue for a long time? that's up to russia. i think, if i can step in, there is a huge gap between, we're not about talking eu or nato or us, orjust any other, it is something where the collective west has got the extremely good experience of building the consensus. and now in a global world, where you cannot take decisions only on your own, on behalf your country — when it comes to covid, to energy crisis, even to military force. we have learned how to make the consensus, and how to make collectively the decisions. but what putin hadn't learned is to be part of some consensus. broader consensus. and until he understands that he should be a player together with everybody, this could change the sit

the situation with russia. however, what anthony plan can did say, is that these talks ton carryon can go forward based on the discussions detailed with the russian foreign minister today said that said gala, for all his said in the past and recite again today that russia has no intention of attacking ukraine, but said that all would actually come down to what actions were seen on the ground and that the united states would be looking at any type of aggression. possibly as, as signs of not you'll stay. what you may expect on an invasion would be viewed as something that could result in a response from the u. s. and from its allies in nato and the european union as well. he said that following his meetings with partners in kiev, also with the, with the representatives of the united kingdom, germany, and france in berlin on thursday. that responses that could be taken would be swift, severe, and united to anything that they saw as aggression coming from russia. however, what he did say is that there is a potentia

on russia. so i don't see any real upside for the by the ministration. busy to do very much, to help out roger with the exception of what they call the strategic stability to nuclear weapon. and that's an issue. i think there, there is a kind of a u. s. interest in restraining the sort of the rate when it comes to an intercontinental ballistic missile. that's a separate issue from major expense to new. the americans are very happy just just to make life difficult for russia. well, you know, in the same theme, hear me go to ernst in and out is we have nato steve self and berg. he said, right before the summer, he said, nato states are fully prepared for a quote, new armed conflict in europe. i mean, what kind of language is going into a summit, ok to de escalate tensions and all of that. and what is the, what does he mean by that? what i mean, how do you think he's defining what a military conflict is? because nato is already said and the united states separately said, they're not going to interv

russia. but a 3rd of that passes through ukraine. moscow has already reduced the amount flowing into europe, causing shortages and pushing prices to record levels. now russia that threatened to cut supplies further if sanctions are imposed and they're not just on gas, but also on oil and metals. some countries depend on russia more than others. germany gets more than half of its gas supplies from russia. and that dependency would increase if the german government gives its final approval to the nord stream to pipeline. ah, let's bring our guests in moscow puzzle. failed in our a defense and military analyst in burn cornelia mayor, seo of mayor resource and the specialist in oil. and gas and in berlin. o, rick brooklyn, a professor of political science at stanford university in berlin. welcome to the program. let's begin. inborn with a colina maya calling. this is not as easy as russia, switching off the gas pipeline. and america coming to rescue with lots of new natural gas is it's a lot more

that is the price for russia. they will have consequences if they violate national law, invade another country. the consequences are different if they invade ukraine as opposed to a nato ally. it is important to understand the differences. >> as you know, french president macron said two years ago that he thought nato was brain-dead. do you think vladimir putin has unintentionally succeeded at giving you no purpose in revitalizing the alliance. >> in an unpredictable, unstable and dangerous world, it is even more important that we stand together and protect each other. we need strong institutions as nato and the time of uncertainty. we have demonstrated that during the cold war. we demonstrated that when nato helped to end wars in the 1990's. we demonstrated that when nato allies helped the united states in afghanistan after 9/11. now, the aggressive actions of russia against ukraine and the need for 100% security guarantees of nato allies. we have been able to be united and change when the world is changing and t

and russia. if europe doesn't get a more active role, it will simply be sidelined by the big powers and a warm welcome to to because brochure. yeah, from dw russian department. he believes the russian wolf is at the door. so all the western ducks going to try and sit this one out too if so. good luck. interesting stuff. plenty to talk about. so let's get home with it. mikhail you are laughing. tell us a little bit about the ducks and the wolf. what does it all mean? listener, if we see it is a game though, morally it's, it's problematic, but if we see it as a game, then we can see a huge a symmetry in the conflict between the western russia. aware, russia is ready to raise the stakes. knowing it is a weak a player, are it still has skin in the game and is ready for for action while the west is not. and that's the, the huge difference between them. so the problem is, are, i don't see in the moment, are any, any idea are to stop putting from doing what his are planning to do ridge, what have you go

and russia talks are underway. cnn is characterizing them as high-stakes, would you agree with that? >> it is higher stakes putin hasn't really introduced a brinksmanship policy. he wants security guarantees it's very difficult for the united states and the allies to issue those guarantees. it is a high-stakes negotiation records what our security guarantees is he looking for? >> he posted a bunch of them. basically he wants to ensure nato does not expand to ukraine. president biden has been pretty explicit in his previous dealings with president putin nato expansion is not on the table president biden has said ukraine has to deal with the question of corruption which is a pervasive before ukraine could begin to consider ukrainian to nato. there are high-stakes and it does not appear anyway there's a lot of room for compromise especially on the russianci sid. >> why not? >> putin has put himself into a corner. his rhetoric has expanded tremendously and of his advisors. if the united states and its allies do not pro

russia. and that dependency would increase if the german government gives its final approval to the nod stream to pipeline. ah, let's bring our guests in moscow puzzle failed in our a defense and military analyst in burn, cornelia mayor, seo of mayor resource, and a specialist in oil and gas, and in berlin. o, rick brooklyn, a professor of political science at stanford university in berlin. welcome to the program. let's begin. inborn with a colina maya calling. this is not as easy as russia, switching off the gas pipeline. and america coming to rescue with lots of new natural gas is it's a lot more complicated that oh, it's much, much more complicated because you know, the, some gas pipelines, the pipeline gas from russia that bates 5060 years back. and these are old relationships and, and europe only gets that much m l n g guess which can, which comes partially from the u. s. m. so it's not quite, it's not quite that easy. and for russia, it's also different than it was last time around, whi

this is right at russia border. and we don't even have to ask ourselves how the united states was react, that there was a military build up on its border. everybody remembers in the united states, 1960, to the cuban missile crisis. when there was a build up soviet ballistic missiles in cuba, and now was that described in the near a cataclysmic event that could have ended the world. why is it that we in the west or especially in washington, don't see. russia has a legitimate national security interest and not have a weapon build up on its border with the border with ukraine, where most of the russian population lives in striking distance in moscow. how is it that we can sit here in the united states? american diplomats can look at russia situation and not even understand that they have a legitimate national security interest when we're militarized around its border, especially caucasus right in eastern europe, going right to russia's doorstep. for me, i haven't trouble seeing this as diploma. so we have tried and sai

looking at what russia was, crimea was always a part of russia. kazakhstan was always a part of russia. vladimir putin is just trying to put back together the original soviet union. hey, thank you so much, greta. have a wonderful day. host: same to you. dan, go ahead. caller: very interesting, crimea and kazakhstan. the big lie, but the big lie is, starting in 2016, the big lie is that russia is our enemy. russia is not our enemy. if we had any brains at all, we would take a look at the former soviet union and see that russia land lies was 90% or 75% of it. i don't know where in the heck we would expect president putin to put his troops other than in russia, which i think, unless people like to send some instructions on exactly how he should arrange his tanks in his own country, i'm sure he would probably take the advice under, he would take that advice, but i think he wants to be and i think the russian people want to be part of nato. not an enemy of nato. i mean, nato is just a figment of our own imagination that expanded beyond its original aut

s. russia relation is what it's all about in the end. so what objective could put in actually still be pursuing here? and if deterrence doesn't work, what economic sanctions would convince him to stand out? well, 1st of all, where is he up to? and i think it's not just ukraine, but it is. it is more to say about the security arrangements in europe since 30 years. it is precisely about, and you mentioned the, the question of the withdrawal of american nuclear weapons from europe. i mean, there are not that many nuclear weapons left there, just a few bombs in germany in been alex, holland, italy, and turkey. so that is very few and in fact, what putin is intending by demanding the withdrawal of these weapons is much more. he talks about control in europe. it's about had gemini, as he sees it in american hegemony, which he would like to inherit. and so this is the big picture. the other big picture is we see lots of maneuvers, military exercises by russia undertaken at this point in time all over the world. and so it indicates this global c

should russia attack ukraine? ladiva, what do you think is bush's biggest concern is cit, nato's expansion? or is it just the fear of seeing a neighbor which is more vibrant, setting up a strong democracy that could further spread eastwards. ah, well ah, thank you for the question. actually. first of all, i would like just to show brief the command on what the r y aah ukrainian kali ker panel is set. i was surprised at saying by him that russia is made an aggression to a crimea, that that is not true actually, because there was a dialogue, both in crimea and the crimea, and sexually or near voice the gave their voice the to the original location with rush well, that was not the gears of just for the record that the russian narrative internationally were talking about annexation of the crimea. and also actually that one and encouraged and not in the delay eastern territories. ah, that's was not annexation. and that was not the end in gush. it's the casa, well, actually, i, i, i will get straight to the point, i wou

for the policy of the turning russia. we will respond with counter deterrence. if it uses intimidation, we will respond with counter intimidation. if it looks for vulnerabilities in the russian defense system, we will look for nato's vulnerabilities. it is not our choice but we don't have other options. if we don't overturn this dangerous course of events. >> tensions between nato and moscow can be trained -- can be treated to the crimean peninsula. in 2014, ukraine's pro-russian government was toppled following months of protests. russia responded by seizing control of crimea. pro-russian then declared independence after a referendum was held. that triggered a conflict between ukraine and the separatists. despite a cease-fire, fighting has never really stopped. in 2016, naito deployed battle groups to baltic states and poland in response to the annexation of crimea. the latest tension started last year when russia mobilized 100,000 soldiers near its border with ukraine. let's bring in our caste, joining us from brussels,

in circle russia. nato enlargement is not directed against russia. over the last 20 years old nato coalition potential has been a mass on its east and frank. the lances expansion towards russian borders is accompanied by the creation earned modernization of military infrastructure. russia has 16 neighbors in the ninety's. only one of those was a nato state that it became to poland joint. then it became 5 with ukraine and ga, potentially joining. that would be 7 with all the perks that carries like us bases and troops. pray tell how is that not the dictionary definition of encirclement. russia uses statements from high level officials as well as disinformation and propaganda outlets to intentionally spread outright falsehoods, to attempt to create a pretext for military action. we all know how the u. s. uses differ information to create a pretext for invading independent states. the irony seems lost entirely on the us state department, we still remember colon pow right sadam. hussein has not. verifiably accounted for even one teaspoonful of this deadl

forces near russia borders. i'm the removal of american nuclear weapons from europe. well, let's cross live now to the us, where kill up my pen will join us. we'll speak to peter all over there on your screen as well, or europe correspondent a little bit later as well. but kim, just starting with you the document with 100 over here in moscow, at secretary of state blink and talked out, but it's at the lent really. but not a lot seem to come out of it. can you take us through the developments of the evening from washington? sure, anthony blank in the us secretary of state, spoke to the press at the us state department and said that this document has been prepared and provided to russia. now he emphasized that nato will be creating a document of its own, a separate document on behalf of the nato coalition. that will also be delivered to russian officials. now they are not making this document public. they have decided that they will not reveal it to the public. it will simply be given to russian officials. this is

and criticizing him and personifying russia in the person of russia's president. to the extent that anything that vladimir putin says or does is inherently evil and must be opposed. and that's what we have right now. as you said, it's cartoonish in nature because this is bateau bullwinkle. jo boris and natasha kinds of it's not reality and it's going to lead to disaster because again, i'll leave it with this. we can't fight a war in europe today. we cannot neither can europe, neither can nato nato knows this. i've challenged anybody who's affiliated with nato. tell me how nato can mobilize armored core in 10 days. you will never get an answer to say can't. they would be able to do it in 10 weeks . rush on the other hand, can put 2 combined arms army that are trained for deep offensive operations of in the field was in a week. this is the 1st garge tank army in the 20th combined army. both former cold war formation station did east germany that were the same. whoa, whoa, whoa. european peace and the aftermath of the solution of warsaw pact to paul the so union, but

and, we will see how russia responds. reporter: secretary, have you considered the russians are just buying time to find a place to invade ukraine. maybe you jump through hoops like get delivering handwritten questions to answer and meanwhile there stabilizing ukraine from human -- from within. at what point do you stop playing russia's game and take preemptive action now. sec. blinken: first, we are not standing still, and we can walk and chew gum at the same time and that is what we have been doing. we have made it clear to russia that they are -- that there is a path of diplomatic and deterrence, and if russia chooses aggression it will lead to massive consequences. even though we engage in diplomacy which is my job and responsibility, we have been resolutely preparing for russia to take the path of aggression. and as i laid out the work that we have done over the past couple of months and bringing allies and partners together around massive consequences for russia shuddered new its aggression in the very detailed repo