you see them here, liz cheney and adam kinzinger for their work on the committee investigating january 6th. >>> an attack on the capitol, the republican party is now, today, officially describing as, quote, legitimate political discourse. remember, nine people died in connection to the insurrection, more than 150 law enforcement officers were hurt. we will talk about what else the party is saying today and what's going down behind closed doors as mike pence takes the mic at a different meeting sometime this hour. >>> plus, green across the board for wall street right now after that stronger than expected jobs report from the labor department. the head of the national economic council brian deese joining us live from the white house in a minute. >>> and breaking this afternoon, one of the country's biggest airlines wants the justice department to make a new no fly list after all that bad behavior on planes. we have our tom costello jumping in front of a camera with developing details. i'm hallie jackson in washington. good to be with you on a friday afternoon. we will start with new det

that is why they were right to censor his anger and liz cheney. these two have left the republican party. they made it official by censoring them and saying they no longer represent the values of the republican party because they've turned this sham investigation, they are treating it like a criminal investigation even though they are not going after any criminal spirit they've issued 80 subpoenas and very few of them have gone toward anyone who was involved or participated in any way in violence or crime on january 6. instead they are going after people who were lawfully participating in a permitted to rally their first amendment rights on january 6. but these two want to go after them and go after anybody that has any ties to donald trump or represents anything that had to do with the agenda of the trump presidency. that is why they should no longer be associated with the republican party. >> laura: there was this wild propaganda documentary that ran on msnbc last night and congressman from the committee was featured prominently. look. >> the co

there's a few members that are more conservative than liz cheney. she's a cheney. it's about an autocratic move oriented around a strong man and if you don't recognize that and submit to it, then you'll be purged. straight out of the soviet union. >> yus just about a year ago, s did survive a push to remove her. mccarthy defended her at the time. watch this. >> liz cheney, our conference chair, who just got a resounding shot in the arm -- >> it's an example this republican party is a big tent. everyone's invited in. >> today liz cheney is out of leadership, censured by the rnc and mccarthy is backing her primary opponent. this is what he said on fox tonight. >> wyoming deserves to have a representative who will deliver the accountability against the biden administration. not a representative that works closer with nancy pelosi, going after republicans instead of stopping the radical democrats for what they're doing to this country. >> what a difference a year makes. and does he stand for anything or -- >> no. i mean, look, it's repleat with baseless men like mccart

cheney and let's be honest here, liz cheney has been a stalwart supporter of wyoming since day one. she voted with the president -- with president trump 93% of the time and has only voted with biden 11% of the time. it's clear to me that liz will absolutely win this race. to me, it's going to be a much harder discussion on the other side of this race where her challenger is going to have a much different time to differentiate herself. >> when it comes to -- you've acknowledged that you expect to probably face a primary challenge because you're backing congresswoman cheney. you've said eventually donald trump won't be the face of the republican party anymore. do you think you're going to stay in the party? do you think you will win? if you don't think donald trump is not going to be the face of the republican party, when does that change? i feel like post a substantial election loss, that would be the time, but it hasn't. >> what i do strongly feel that absolutely i will continue to be a republican. i view the world through the views of the gop as the grand old party and a big tent r

liz cheney. i mean, is this going to come back to haunt him? >> no. i don't think it is. this is a desperate attempt by mccarthy to save his seat if they win the house next -- his leadership position if they win the house. mccarthy is feeding the alligator hoping the alligator will eat him last. it'll never work. you know, there is a certain clarity in this moment. it is sort of like no pretense anymore. we can't pretend the republican party is about conservativism. i mean, there are a few members of the house that have a more conservative -- few members of the house have a more conservative record than liz cheney. she is a cheney. it is just about an autocratic movement that is oriented around a strong man and if you don't recognize that and submit to it, then you'll be purged. it is straight out of the soviet union. >> just about a year ago liz cheney did survive a push to remove her as conference chair for voting to impeach donald trump. mccarthy defended her at the time. watch this. >> liz cheney our conference chair who just got a resounding shot in the arm. just an

more people voted for trump than for liz cheney. not a lot but more. i think that liz cheney has made it clear she's put this on the line, every day she doubles down. whether she wins or not, she's not going away. and she sees this as more important than any political fight. >> that's a pretty significant thing to say. sometimes whether you win or not, you are not going. thank you both very much. >>> and next, the cdc standing by its guidance, even the war states are lifting mask mandates. stacey abrams is my guest, what would she do if elected? >>> plus a new report expected to show record inflation is not s slowing down? if that's the case, how long will it take to get inflation under control? can you be free of hair breakage worries? we invited mahault to see for herself that dove breakage remedy gives damaged hair the strength it need even with repeated combing hair treated with even with repeated dove shows 97% less breakage. strong hr with new dove breakage remedy. number one beauty brand notested on animals. oh, man, that's a whole lot of wrinkl

look at a split of money, q4, $2.05 million raised for liz cheney. 2021 overall, $7.2 million. compare that to hageman, who's barely reaching half a million dollars at $443,000 for q4. and barely at a million dollars for the entire year of 2021. does money win? a race? >> well, money certainly helps, and liz cheney having $4.7 million in the bank to spend in her race in wyoming is certainly -- it certainly enters to her favor, enters to her favor, but what's important here is that i think that you're going to see that other candidates, other republican candidates who voted for impeachment are also doing well financially and are also banking on a divided field, so you're seeing that the republican party is going to be fighting significantly against itself and those who are standing up against trump are still benefitting from their stances and still doing well in the long run, but what we see here is the republican leadership really doubling down on trumpism. so, what's happening, the rnc and mccarthy endorsing cheney's opponent comes just week after the rnc censured cheney for p

liz cheney is somebody who's still on the ballot. adam kinzinger has decided not to seek reelection. but that is going to be a fascinating fascinating set of events. obviously not just from the dias, but much more the witnesses we expect them to bring. we know all the people taking the 5th, refusing subpoenas but we also know there are so many people close to the president who are there and involved who have given testimony voluntarily to this committee. >> some quietly. dana bash. always good to have you on. thank you so much. >> you too. >>> still ahead, outrage demands for more transparency in minneapolis after a police shooting resulted in a black man's death. what happened and why now the minnesota attorney general is stepping in. zero-commission trades for online u.s. stocks and etfs. and a commitment to get you the best price on every trade, which saved investors over $1.5 billion last year. that's decision tech. only from fidelity. seeing blood when you brush or floss can be a sign of early gum damage. new parodontax active g

guest: in terms of policy issues, liz cheney's actions are conservative. they are not aligned with democrats. it is in terms of democracy protection and pushing against authoritarianism where they are are aligned with democrats. and not parroting former president trump's false claims that he lost the election. those are the things that have become issues in the discourse. they are not likely to join the democratic party. there is a push among some house republicans in the freedom caucus to kick them out. house republican leaders have not been that interested in the effort. that would change officially the number of republicans in the house versus democrats. host: that sensor vote based on the work in january 6 committee. what is the latest that you are walk -- watching for with the january 6 committee? guest: they are going through witnesses. they talked about doing more public hearings but there is some indication that they may push that back. they maybe going through a sea of documents. you have documents that came from the national archives from january

he purged liz cheney. he promised if republicans went back to house, he promised to put fringe members on the committees. those members are all in on side shows and he's signaling he's okay with it. mitch mcconnell and others are not. the former president is stirring the pot. just before air tire, ronna mcdaniel put out a new defense of her censure resolution, in it, she makes no mention of the intraparty criticism she's get getting. she does, however, attack the media. as for her party, it's up for grabs. perspective now from commentator and former special adviser to president obama, van jones. also former republican national committee chief of staff, mike shields. mike, as a republican, i'm curious. why do you think mitch mcconnell felt the need to be so forceful in rebuking the legitimate political discourse notion and do you agree with him? >> well, look, i think that this was a resolution passed at the rnc that's not binding. it doesn't carry the weight of law. they passed four other resolutions that

i thought she is smarter than tying herself to liz cheney. i mean, she doesn't represent anyone i mean, maybe a few lobbyists for, you know, some of the defense contractors d.c. but she doesn't represent anyone and yet pelosi thinks that'shink the way to portray an optimistic vision for the democrats. well, claire mccaskill actually congressman banks gave away the store and an interview which i think was extremelybo revealing about what this committeeut t is really all abo. watch this .e of now this committee has toic really focus on how they communicate with the voterss to decide the midterms and ultimately decide 2020 fourt isel not going to be just by subpoenaing more witnesses for just convincing everyone who's already convinced they've got to convince somego folks of the seriousness of what happened. >> swcf going to convince some new folks this should be their focus january 6th. that's what we call saying the quiet part out loud, right ? i mean, they they put this in a memo, the d triple c putis this memo as well about this is a big par

liz cheney's challenger is below a million dollars. the fact they're changing the rules to flood party money in there. this is prove this is a trump grievance and he's calling the shots. >> he is calling the shots. and there could be long-term repercussions. part of the reason that there was pushback on throwing, you know, liz cheney and kinzinger out of the party is that the idea was like, well, what happens if some other republicans get out of line with trump, which happens very often. are they going to get thrown out of the party? that's why there was pushback, but now that this door is being opened so that you can, you know, raise money against republican incumbents, that is going to open the door to give trump even more power because what if somebody makes him very upset and he feels betrayed and he wants them to pay? now he can use the rnc to even more of that within the party. but at this point, basically the republicans who are there and are -- have the power, they are the ones who are, you know, with trump and that they are wi

there are others, of course, like liz cheney, who believe that there should be some sort of reckoning as a result of this. thank you very much to david willis. china and russia have announced a new partnership, hailed by president putin as an "unprecedented pact of cooperation". china says it'll back russia's foreign policy aims, and says it supports russian demand that nato halt its expansion. xijinping and vladimir putin held talks hours before the official opening of the winter olympics in beijing, with the low—key ceremony held amid concerns about covid and a diplomatic boycott over human rights abuses. from beijing, robin brant reports. china's capital city, an olympic host for the second time. the bird's nest stadium, built for 2008, is still glorious. but there's a different man in charge now and it feels very different in 2022. xijinping promised a safe, efficient games. for most people in beijing tonight, this is the closest they're gonna get to the opening ceremony of the olympic games — watching it on a roadside near the stadium or on a walkway over the motorway. we're

liz cheney is a dead woman walking in montana. she knows that. it's just so sad. . >> wyoming, i think you mean, joe. >> both beautiful states. >> wyoming. thank you, john. >> i'm a huge fan of yellowstone. joe, though, i don't think we should totally dismiss the idea that they had to water this down. they had to water down their condemnation of cheney and kinzinger. i'm not suggesting there is a place for them in the republican party at large right now. but the fact that these people felt they couldn't get it through as harsh as they initially wanted, does that show perhaps some of their powers waning? >> no. because i don't think, john, this committee of these party bosses had the authority to expel adam kinzinger or liz cheney from the republican party. i don't think they have that authority. again -- i'm sorry. the bigger picture is this. adam kinzinger and liz cheney know, they won't say it, but they know there's no place in this party for them right now. that's what needs to be driven home. not what a bunch of party hacks do in salt lake ci

you can't get more conservative than liz cheney. you can't get more republican than liz cheney and adam kinzinger. but yet here we are being censured, these two, by the rnc. what do you make of that? >> it's disgraceful. like olivia said, it's not the rnc i know. this is not the republican party i started out with. but i'd also like to say that i don't consider them moderate republicans. i think of them as principled republicans, and that's the difference between people like liz cheney and adam kinzinger, and i would also like to highlight the speaker of the arizona house who basically, with his one vote, a republican who supported donald trump, was able to eliminate the voting rights suppression bill that arizona state legislature put up. so it will no longer exist in its current form, and that's thanks to a republican. >> it's interesting, right, juanita, because as we were coming into this new year ahead of the midterms, there was talk about the fact that republicans certainly had somewhat of a leg up, right? possibly because you

congresswoman liz cheney is in a reelection battle. we know that's one of the key house districts that the former president donald trump is focusing a lot of his efforts on. he would like very much to see her lose her reelection bid, and that is really the stakes here as we go into the midterm elections. we're going to have to see the way that january 6th as a political issue begins to play. we have seen people like liz cheney repeatedly over and over try to call to her party's better angels, try to talk to republicans, as a political issue but instead as a moral issue. it does seem when you see censures like this at the rnc's winter meeting the way that they are talking about this, it does seem like she's losing that battle but at the same time she's going to have her moment at the ballot box in this upcoming year and we're going to see how it plays out. it does play part and parcel what's happening in the halls of congress. what we're hearing from former vice president mike pence, all fits together as the party continues to grapple w

you don't believe me, ask liz cheney or adam kinzinger. maybe he saw the writing on the wall, perhaps. you remember the words from hamilton? never going to be president now. maybe he thought he might as well tell the truth because that is what all of this is about. finally getting to the truth. that is what the committee on january 6th is working so hard to do. today there is more from the committee. cnn has learned exclusively newly obtained records show jim jordan, you know his name, it would come up somewhere in all of this, right? jim jordan got a call from then president on the morning of january 6th. this was a ten-minute call before jordan took to the house floor to object to the certification of joe biden's electoral college win and before trump supporting rioters attacked the capitol. this is huge. the call logs from the white house are part of the documents turned over to the committee from the national archives. you know the ones from the former president that he fought so hard to keep secret. jim jordan claims he really doesn't

and does liz cheney have the worst we can washington? we will explain and speak with the primary challenger trying to take her down. >> laura: i'm beginning to think that liz cheney is trying to lose her reelection bid by the largest margin possible. the week started for her with "the new york times" of all places giving her pretty shabby coverage describing her influence on january 6th committee as a net negative because she is far too prosecutorial and since then, reports that she snubbed the voter summit in wyoming in order to do what? to hobnob with the media elite and while there, use the word crazy to describe her constituents. joining me now is a candidate running to unseat cheney and i have to say i was stunned that "the new york times" on sunday actually publish this piece and i just want to read a snippet from it. the house select committee scrutinize the january 6 assault on the capital is borrowing techniques from federal prosecutions employing aggressive tactics typically used against mobsters and terrorists and liz cheney t

liz cheney has a 96% rating. she is a conservative. she is more conservative than the woman who took her place in the republican conference stefanic. this is not about issues this is about one thing, donald trump, and whether you defend him or not. that is the one purity test so many in the republican party want to impose right now. >> to our next topic and that is, here is a riddle, donald trump versus desantis. who gets the republican nomination? >> i see this as a floridian, i think ron desantis will be successful in florida. i don't agree with a lot of things that he does but i think he's a talented politician and is very well liked by the republican base here in florida and nationwide. if he goes head-to-head with trump even in florida he couldn't win this state. remember, there were at least two floridians the last time, jeb bush who we thought was so popular and marco rubio vying against trump and they stood no chance against him not even in our state. >> let's turn now to "the view." you spend a lot of time at the table across

garrett, you talked to liz cheney today. tell us about it. >> well, i interviewed liz cheney and every question i asked her, she kept coming back to the same point that she wanted to make over and over again, which is, he would do it again. i thought it was interesting that's how your interview with congresswoman luria concluded too because i think cheney has been looking a step ahead in this process the whole time and it's not so much when you interview her that she's thinking about the details of what happened in the lead-up to january 6th and on that day so much as the fact that she believes, clearly, that donald trump remains a danger to behave in this way again, whether as a candidate, a nominee, or a future president. she also made it clear that she does not want this to be what republicans stand for. she's having both her role at kind of the tip of the spear here for the committee and a whole separate battle she's fighting almost entirely alone for what her party stands for and i think that's why we heard her keep com

ask liz cheney or adam kinzinger. but maybe, he saw the writing on the wall perhaps. you remember the words from hamilton? never gonna be president now. maybe he thought that he might as well tell the truth because that's what all of this is about. finally, getting to the truth. that's what the committee investigating what happened on january 6th -- that's what they want. when rioters tried to overturn our free and fair election. that's what they are working so hard to do. well, today, there's more from the committee. cnn has learned exclusively that newly obtained records show that jim jordan -- you know his name it would come up in all of this, somewhere in all of this, right? jim jordan got a call from then president on the morning of january 6th, and this was a ten-minute call before jordan took to the house floor to object to the certification of joe biden's electoral college win. and before trump-supporting rioters attacked the capitol. this is huge. the call logs from the white house, a part of the documents turned over to the committee from the national archiv

the republican national committee has voted to formally censure liz cheney and adam kinzinger for being members of the house select committee investigating the january 6th attack. that is their offense. the censured document is wild on many levels. among many truly insane things it accuses them of being destructive to the republican party for wanting to find the truth of what happened january 6th. the republican conference must not be sabotaged by cheney and kinzinger. how else could the truth be destructive and seeking it be considered it sabotage? the rnc now admits it's demanding republicans put party over country and pledge fidelity to donald trump, adding that cheney and kinzinger support democratic efforts to destroy president trump more than they support winning back republican support in 2022, end quote. at this surreal headline in today's paper, the party of lincoln and reagan now formally and publicly holds the position that the deadly mob of people trying to overthrow the u.s. government consisted of, quote, ordinary citizens engaged in legitimate political discourse. in case

. >>> the top republican in the house wants his fellow republican liz cheney out of congress. kevin mccarthy is putting its support behind cheney's trump-backed rival for wyoming's congressional seat. and it's definitely not common for leadership to get involved in primary races against sitting members, but mccarthy is taking a gamble. he hopes the move will win trump's favor and win him the speakership if republicans take back the house. here's how the house majority leader is defending his endorsement. >> wyoming deserves to have a representative who will deliver the accountability against this biden administration. not a representative they have today that works closer with nancy pelosi going after republicans instead of stopping these radical democrats for what they're doing to this country. >> and we have our panel with us. manu raju, alex burns and mj lee. so manu, you know, this probably doesn't come as a surprise to many people on the hill. kevin mccarthy has not stood up for liz cheney in any way, but still he's stepping in to a -- what's going to be a pretty bloody p

, "legitimate political discourse", which liz cheney and adam kinzinger would disagree with. so, i mean, what does it tell us about the republican party and perhaps going forward, 2024, the next presidential race? well, this all points to the fact that the events of january 6 are deeply controversial still, as far as the republican party is concerned and, as you mentioned, the party decided today to censure liz cheney and adam kinzinger for basically joining the committee looking into the events of that fateful day. they believe that no republicans should have joined the committee and that it will basically lead to a witch—hunt that will ultimately end up with donald trump being accused of more things. now, they also said — the members of the committee today — that this constituted, as they put it, "persecution of ordinary citizens "engaged in legitimate political discourse." now, adam kinzinger has already said that he will be leaving congress before his term is up, and liz cheney could face some sort of challenge for her seat in wyoming. now, she issued a statement to

liz freaking cheney, the daughter of dick cheney, you know, is a rino and not republican enough and being censured and wanting to push her out? liz cheney. i mean, it makes absolutely no sense. and they're doing it for what? for a criminal mastermind who has no political or institutional, ideological grounding in the republican party, who used and turned that base for his own benefits and his own political and personal gain. >> it's not just a few far-right extremists anymore. that ideology clearly -- >> no. it's those in power afraid of losing their positions, who have put their political future much above the country. >> a pleasure to talk with you, ana navarro. thank you. >> thank you. >>> still to come, efforts continue to reach a 5-year-old boy who's been trapped in a well for four days. this is happening in morocco. we'll bring you the latest on the rescue after this. you're an owner with access to financial advice, tools and a personalized plan that helps you build a future for those you love. vanguard. become an owner. i brought in ensure max protein, with thirty grams of protein.

liz cheney is a hard-core conservative. her voting record and mine did not match up very well when i served with her. mike pence, i mean, this is a guy who would introduce himself saying he was a christian first, then a conservative, then a republican. so, you know, the people who stand for ideas are being marginalized. the people who are embracing this lie and the man, who came up with, that are empowering. >> this is an interesting point you make. in other, words you and adam kinzinger and liz cheney and mike pence were all part of the same party. that was a broad political spectrum within one party. you've gotta be more than those people who believe that generous six was a lie and the election was a fraud. how do like-minded people come together to resurrect the propublica party? we can't really be a country where one party party believes in democracy and the other one doesn't. >> well, the first principle, or rule i would say,, ali is that we can only embrace people who stand for the truth. people who are promoting ally

we know he's got a list of them and liz cheney is also on it. in terms of how this impacts the work of the january 6th committee, it really doesn't. there are other things here, though, that it may have an impact on, specifically a bipartisan group of senators who are working to reform the electoral count act. that's an old law from the 1800s that governs the way that vice presidents certify election results. i asked several senators who are part of that bipartisan effort on the republican and democratic side if they thought that trump's latest round of comments about what he thought pence could have done, even though pence couldn't have overturned an election, i asked if trump's comments made their work harder. all of them, from both parties, said, no. so the former president here, of course, muddying the waters and the national party, by and large, going along with him, with this latest censure. but there are people here on the hill still determined to make the changes necessary to ensure that january 6th could never happen again. >> ali vital

have been willing to stand up and say what liz cheney has said. instead, republicans are hearing from their news outlets. many of which are increasingly to the right of fox news. the information they're consuming is saying this big lie is actually true and they're choosing to believe it. trump was particularly out there saying, the reason i bashed the media. when you write a story that's true, i can say applausebly, you should not believe them and they won't. mitch mcconnell's comments were interesting to me for a couple reasons. one, he has been someone who has stood on principle on january 6th. i will give him that. he never does anything that doesn't line one his ambitions to retain power. inside the senate, and that means worrying about how the senators feel but how the electorate feel. he knows as long as republicans are having this fight. and they are literally divided. there is base of the party, the furthest of which with marjory taylor greene, and then a will the of people who are alienated. he knows he won't win back the majority if peop

some in the house want to primary, liz cheney wants to endorse one. remember, adam kinzinger is not running for re-election. this puts house minority leader kevin mccarthy in a sticky situation as republican leaders don't weigh in especially if there's an incumbent running. but, of course, most of the republican party is against liz cheney for her speaking out against them for white washing the events. >> very indyk active mitt romney was the candidate for the republican party and now he's shamed by the actions of those within his own party. daniella diaz from capitol hill. thank you so much. >>> the atlanta area district attorney looking into trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 results in georgia is laying out the timeline for her investigation. a grand jury is expected to begin its work at the start of may. >> fani willis says they could see a lot of activity in june and july. cnn's jessica schneider reported. >> reporter: the atlanta d.a. is speaking out, giving extensive commenting about what's to come in this probe against trump and his allies.

adam kinzinger has already said he will be leaving congress before his term is up and liz cheney could face some sort of challenge for her seat in wyoming. she issued a statement today, saying that republican leaders, as she put it, had made themselves willing hostages to a man who admits attempting to overthrow a presidential election and none to concealed father against not know if it is possible to know this, david, at that phrase political discourse, will many, you know, republicans, maybe that supported mr trump, maybe didn't, would they take on without script and that the rnc is putting forward?— is putting forward? well, it's interesting — is putting forward? well, it's interesting because - is putting forward? well, it's interesting because mike i is putting forward? well, it's i interesting because mike pence today in that speech also called the sixth of january a dark day in the history of the us capitol and he was one of the lawmakers of course that was rushed to safety after the capitol building came under siege from a mob of donald trump supporters. some of whom are of

are they going to go down the road of actually spending resources to defeat liz cheney? >> it looks like it. it looks like they're going to play in this republican primary in wyoming and spend some money to defeat liz cheney. they do not want to see her as the party's nominee for the republican nomination -- the party's nominee for this congressional seat. you really wonder who's the audience here. i suspect it's an audience of one. it's donald trump. trump is committed to defeat china and kinzinger and anybody else who voted to impeach him for his control in january 6th. >> i want to ask you how you define what the party is and especially the two committees. from 30,000 feet oaf the last decade, it looks like the actual apparatuses of the two political parties, on the state or national party level, has been taken over by a different breed of activist. explain -- have you seen that same thing and is today's rnc 168 a lot different than the one that elected michael steele chair? >> i think that's exactly right, chuck. this has been a slow evolution but an evolution noneth

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liz cheney campaigned for him. when it comes to voters, what responsibility do they have in this landscape, this midterm cycle. >> well, one thing i will say, you're right that people like liz cheney and adam were happy to go along with trump. there's a lot of folks been in trenches. we need more folks. liz cheney, she also lauded the election of glen youngkin for virginia. he continues to play footsie with trump. that's unacceptable. i say that's unacceptable because as it relates to voters is we have to have a zero tolerance policy for any of this. the questions have to be one, do you believe that joe biden is the rightful winner of the 20 election if you don't, then you should be out. that's really important. you'll see many, many hundreds, maybe even thousands of republicans running for office ahead of 2022 and again in 2024 who are going to say like, well, i don't know. joe biden is the win erp but there were somes that were weird. it's okay to want to discuss that. no it's not. done. we have had audits. we've

the rnc censured representatives liz cheney and adam kinzinger because of their work. the committee won't support them claiming their behavior is destructive so to review, the official arm of the national republican party is punishing two diehard conservative republicans because they dare to defend the constitution. that's bad, really bad but you know what is worse? the way the party defended the move. in their censure, the rnc described them as participate income a democrat led persecution of citizens engaged in legitimate political discourse. did you hear that? what you just heard would be more at home in the soviet union, cut kremlin foes. they're like will smith in "men of black" with the flash thing to erase the brutality we saw with our eyes as plain legitimate discourse. this here what you'll see now is legitimate discourse to today's republican party. >> ouch! >> yeah, legitimate political discourse and these ordinary citizens beating a police officer, that, too, is legitimate discourse to them, as well. and in trying to pull off this version of their overall o

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what if liz cheney is able to hold on to her seat? >> reporter: you know, that's a really key question, it's clear that mccarthy has made the calculation, he thinks this is politically prudent. yes, she could very well get re-elected. but he is thinks that republicans take back the house in 2022, he's going to need those trump allies in order to elect him speaker. this is a gamble he's willing to take. i will say this, though, this is significant, cheney, can't count her out. she's still a remarkable fund-raiser. she has raised more than $2 million, compared to her primary opponent hageman who has raised millions of dollars. >> and the daughter running as an outsider in the gop. eva mckend from capitol hill, thanks so much. >>> vice president kamala harris is meeting with ukrainian president volodymyr zelensky right now. >> let's get to natasha. they warn they had would punish with sanctions if it invaded ukraine, what do you see in that bilateral meeting? >> reporter: that's right, boris, she reiterated there would be consequences. s

cheney in that raise in wyoming. >> yeah, you know, liz cheney from the very beginning separated herself -- i say from the very beginning. from certainly 2020 when covid started up, you had republicans that went right down the trail of all of the conspiracy theories. she also spoke up, spoke out about that. there was also -- there was also an interesting time i remember because it involved me where donald trump was accusing me of being a murderer. and somebody asked kevin mccarthy, said, hey, what do you think about what donald trump is saying about joe scarborough . of course, his weak, lame response, pathetic response was, oh, i didn't serve with scarborough and i -- i didn't know anything about the case. well, you don't have to know anything about the case because there was no case and you don't have to serve with me to know that it is a pretty bad thing when the family is begging the president of the united states to stop with the conspiracy theories because it is causing them excruciating pain. they said stop. liz cheney after kevin mccarthy's press conference seeks out the press, f

quote, liz cheney and adam kinzinger crossed the line. they chose to join nancy pelosi in a democrat-led persecution of an ordinary-led citizens who engage in legitimate political discourse that had nothing to do with violence at the capitol. see what she did there? she added a little caveat that was not in the original document. trying to argue the legitimate political discourse was unrelated to the violence of the capitol. but first of all, that is not the language that the rnc voted overwhelmingly to approve. they chose to characterize it all as legitimate political discourse, including concussion cops. but even if it was, it is simply not possible to separate what happened on january 6th at any point of the day from the violent insurrection. you see this? some of the apologist want to make a distinction between the insurrectionists who invaded the capital and broke the law, and innovation violence, and the people who were just exercising their lawful constitutional rights that morning. that were just peacefully marching for donald tru

on january 6th now turned on its own as the republican national committee censured liz cheney and adam kinzinger for investigating the assault on the nation's capitol, an event the rnc suggested was legitimate political discourse. donald trump's transformation of the republican party is undeniable which is what made what happened just hours after that rnc vote all the more extraordinary. after years of fierce loyalty to his old boss, mike pence unleashed a stunning rebuke of donald trump by name. >> i heard this week that president trump said i had the right to overturn the election. president trump is wrong. there is no idea more unamerican than the notion that any one person could choose the american president. >> joining us now to make sense of this key moment in our political discourse chief washington correspondent jon karl, chris christie, former republican governor of new jersey, and sarah isgur, a veteran of the trump administration, now an abc news analyst. jon, i want to start with you. it was a stunning moment to see mike pence up there, his most forceful rebuke of donald tr

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i do think liz cheney and mitt romney and others are going to be very much vindicated. and a national review magazine, the conservative magazine, called this resolution morally repugnant and politically se self-destructive. that's exactly what it is and why republicans at large are not defending it. >> yeah. paul, we were saying in the last hour, i said in the last hour that republican party is essentially becoming national emergency. if the party is going to embrace a document, a resolution that describes the events on january 6th as being part of legitimate political discourse, then they have essentially embraced a te terrorist attack. they've embraced political violence. mitt romney tweeted about what occurred at this rnc meeting in this resolution. he writes, shame falls on a party that would censure persons of conscious. honor attaches to liz cheney and adam kinzinger for seeking truth even when doing so comes at great personal cost. your thoughts on all this, paul? it's mitt romney essentially talking to his niece, the chair of the rnc who could not be more trump.

his first significant comments on the rnc censure of liz cheney and adam kinzinger. he made those remarks to our own garrett haake. we want to start with a new escalation on the russia/ukraine border. just this morning russia showed off missile systems arriving in belarus. top navy commanders have also flown to the area, telling richard engel that russian exercises in belarus are set to enter phase two tomorrow and is expected to bring even more military activity into a very fraught situation. mike memoli is at the white house. i'm joined by barry mccaffrey, former member of the national security council and is now an msnbc military analyst. and nola haynes is a professor of political science at pepperdine university and is also the director for women of color advancing peace and security. thanks for joining us on this. mike memoli, i want to play some sound for you from "morning joe" earlier today. >> the door to diplomacy is still open should russia choose to walk through it. every sign on the ground and now at sea is they are continuing down the path of escalation

it seems like the rnc are willing hostages, as liz cheney would say, to donald trump. and the rnc wants to attack two good honorable republicans like liz cheney and adam kinzinger? i've never seen anything like it. i've been secensured by a count committee. i know what that's like. now the rnc is carrying on like this. they should know better, but apparently they don't. >> what you're saying echoes a lot of what we hear from senator mitt romney who tweeted shame falls on a party who would censure persons of conscience who seek truth. it is crazy to think that romney is an out llier in a bparty tha once nominated him as the presidential candidate. >> mitt romney and governor hogan are absolutely right. the rnc reacted so foolishly against cheney and kinzinger because the january 6th committee issued 14 subpoenas to some of these fake electors. i suspect they're getting very close to the republican national committee. they're a little nervous about that and they ought to be, frankly. the rnc is really anxious. some of those members have to be concerned about these subpoe

and it is the same committee that is censuring adam kinzinger and liz cheney, and they said they didn't mean the people who were violent. and now joining me is the white flag podcast, and also molly walsh from the daily beast. and now, mike pence is finally speaking the truth 13 months after the fact. i guess better late than never, but how important was that to hear those words from mike pence? >> i'm not sure, but pence is right and trump is wrong. but here is the bigger deal. mike pence has absolutely no shot at the republican nomination in 2024, and if donald trump wants the nomination in '24, it is his, because the sad truth, jim, is this thing is over. there is no, there is no fight for the soul of the republican party. it is trump's party, and the party of trumpism, and you mentioned the censuring of kinzinger and cheney, and who spoke up to defend kinzinger and cheney, and where was mike pence and ted cruz and ron desantis, and any republican who wants to run for president? this party cannot be saved. >> yeah, molly, you know, mike pence, and he just told the truth. that is what