host: former vice president mike pence. those comments by the former vice president reverberating throughout the weekend, including onto the various sunday shows among the appearances on the sunday shows, the senate republican chairman john barrasso. he was speaking on fox news sunday and this is what he has to say about those comments. [video clip] >> i voted to certify the election. i think mike pence did his constitutional duty that day. i feel like president trump and mike pence did remarkable things for this country. i hope they can work out their differences. we are better as a party when we are unified. we are united in wyoming about what this current administration is doing, with regard to high prices, inflation, open border, crime in the cities. people in wyoming are fed up about what is happening today. my focus is on the future, taking back the house, taking back the senate. the 2022 elections. not the 2020 elections. >> you did vote to certify he did not have the power to overturn the election. >> i voted to cer

inside were the remains of mike snyder. >> she had been saying mike was in phoenix and mike this and that and all along mike wasn't in phoenix. >> for mike's family the finality is devastating. >> to not know eight years and hold on to hope and have that pulled out from under you was very difficult for all of us. >> ellen snyder sat in defense attorney penny adrian's office knowing an arrest was imminent. >> they found the body and she wanted to get it over with. she said you can't go on like this. >> so adrian informed the police that ellen snyder was ready to turn herself in. >> that following friday, i met with the police detectives at her office, gave a full statement. >> before we ask you questions, i want you to understand these are your miranda and constitutional rights. >> she gave police a 2 1/2 hour confession and her version of events is quite a story. >> woke me up. it was 2:00, 3:00 in the morning. we were arguing. pushing back and forth and i told him, i know all about you and dave simmons. i know that you are gay. >> ellen said she had recently grown more courageous in

mike. mike: with things building, any sense that we will hear from president biden any time soon with the situation between russia and ukraine? >> it's unclear at this point, mike. the president is in camp david right now and from what we've gathered so far, there is no indication that we may mare from from him. the white house has been forward, shared intelligence and shows there's a real chance that this could happen here. they have been public about this and you got to see that on the sunday shows this morning with a number of top officials getting out there and explaining this. >> interesting, rich edison, many thanks. >> live pictures from maiden square, trey yingst live from ukraine's capital, good morning. trey: mike, good evening, weapon shipments continue to arrive here in ukraine as the country braces for the possibility of a russian invasion. now u.s. intelligence officials believe the invasion could start at any time in the coming days even the coming hours both the russians and

mike was already there. >> by the time we got there mike and his dad, john, were in a room. the detectives were there. and they had her purse on the bed and they had everything laid out. >> mike, the husband, seemed perplexed by the amount of cash on the bed. >> he's like, what in the hell is she doing with all this money? >> given a wad of money like that not taken, robbery was quickly ruled out. >> i requested them to bring another dumpster right now, because we thought maybe bonnie was in a dumpster where they found her purse. >> so you're thinking foul play at this point? >> i'm knowing foul play. >> a woman separated from her purse is a very bad sign. >> right. so we're sitting there crying, hoping they don't bring out a body out of the dumpster. >> but there was no body and no sign of bonnie's car, either. police handed bonnie's purse to mike and advised him it would be best if he just went home. >> the police told him go home, sit by the phone, wait for a car from her, ransom call, an accident call, or whatever it might be. >> homicide detective robbie hinson came on

mike. mike: mike, is part of the concern that if things get hot with russia and ukraine, once you start shooting in some conflict like that, that it could have an impact in terms of perhaps ammunitions going to polish territories as well? mike: well, there's always the potential. there's a lot of security that border is nato and borders with ukraine and different ball of wax if russian artillery were to cross and even with european union. you can't cross the nato border, that almost is a permission slip for russia if you will if you take it in the context. mike: mike tobin live in poland. thank you very much. police have cleared the majority of the freedom convoy protests off of ottawa streets after the demonstrations immobilized canada's capital for weeks. law enforcement stepped up response over the weekend arresting 191 protestors in a two-day blitz. grady trimble is tracking the latest developments from the ground from ottawa, canada, hello, grady. reporter: police warned protestors tha

mike pence -- mike pence stepped back into the political spotlight. on friday evening, he rebuked former president trump for claims the vice president had the authority on january 6, 2021, to overturn the 2020 election results. tensions escalating with trump in the discussion. a question for republican viewers only. we want to know what you think about mike pence and what role do you think he plays in today's gop? republicans in the eastern or central time zone, it (202) 748-8000. in the mountain and pacific times, (202) 748-8002. you can text us that -- at (202) 748-8003. a good monday morning to you. a look at the schedule in washington and on capitol hill. the house returns at noon today. the senate is in at 3:00 p.m. today. president biden is set to meet with the german chancellor today at about 1:30 p.m., a joint news conference scheduled for 3:15 p.m. this morning, we are starting with a conversation about mike pence for republican viewers only. you can start calling in. this is the lead editorial from today's wall street journal. the headline,

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mike: i'm mike emanuel. it's 1:00 a.m. in our nation's capital and 8:00 a.m. in kyiv. a sign russia is ramping up its assault after three days of fierce resistance. the escalating danger of war estimated 150,000 ukrainians to flee their homeland. their president has refused an offer from the united states to evacuate him and his family. alicia: at home the u.s. is joining forces with the u.k. and the european union. putting a block on russia's financial system. but so far sanctions have yet to steam the destruction and death toll. mike: we'll be joined by steve harrigan on the ground in kyiv. and rich edson will join us from the pentagon. let's begin this hour's team coverage at the very center of this global crisis, kyiv. hello, steve. >> we just heard jets overhead. one loud explosion to the north three miles away. now we are hearing small arms fire. we have seen pockets of russian soldiers elite force ins inside. we haven't seen the bigger weapons. they are not inside the city. but there is fighting going on in the capital. overnight two large explosions, including

mike: steve mare harrigan, many thanks. alicia? alicia: we go to lucas tomlinson who is standing by in lviv. >> there is growing evidence u.s. officials say the they have underestimated the ukraine's ability to fight and overestimated their own military. there is increasing evidence that vladimir putin is not well. he ordered this invasion of ukraine. he called this country and russia one people. however, the ukrainians disagree. >> he doesn't understand what ukrainians are, and he really believes in his own dangerous i will lewis that russians and ukrainians are the same people. they are not and haven't been for centuries. >> -- shelves at local grocery stores are now thing out. for weeks people were not in panic motor. but now a different story. i spoke to a young man earlier having to make the decision on what does he do about this family. he cannot leave the family. he cannot leahe country. president zelensky issued a decree that all men 18-60 cannot leave. some men are taking their children to the border and having strangers t

mike. mike: senseless crime. christina, thank you. violent crime continuing to rock america's big cities. westchester county new york a wealthy suburb outside of new york city, a luxury store is hit by another brazen smash and grab robbery. charles watson has the details. reporter: good afternoon. smash and grabs continue the latest brazen robbery have been data louis to-- louis vuitton store at the westchester mall in white plains new york and the scary situation with the video as two guys snatch high end purses from the louis vuitton store in the first guy gets away pretty easily. not the case for the second suspect. presumably employees may be customers put up a fight before he ultimately gets away. white plains police say this actually happened back in january, but because of the recent public outcry over the video they addressed it on their social media saying they are investigating the incident and assuring the public they are safe. so far no arrest. meantime, down in dc metropolitan area is dealing with an explosive uptick in c

so what does that do to mike pence? i would have said, before today, that mike pence had a very, very vanishingly small chance of being a seriously contender for the republican nomination in 2024. i know he thinks otherwise, but his position is wildly untenable for exactly the reasons that illustrate today. this is as much a defense of himself as it is a defense of the constitution. there's parts of this pence is basically trying to say, donald trump's attacking me. i did what i had to do. we've not heard a through going critique of trump's administration from mike pence, and we won't, because mike pence, if he runs for the republican nomination, will have to say, i was donald trump's loyal vice president, and i'm proud of everything that happened except for that day on january 6th, which was un-american, but don't blame donald trump, blame his followers. that's going to be the posture he's going to take. that's not going to satisfy anybody, not the maga base and not people who think donald trump needs to be purged from

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>> (chanting): hang mike pence! hang mike pence! hang mike pence! >> narrator: it was the final chapter of donald trump's presidency. >> it's ending pretty much the same way it began-- with a lot of chaos and disarray and... just a lot of head-shaking at events that have transpired. >> get off of him. get off, get off of him! get the (bleep) off! >> this is donald trump's america. we were warned, over and over and over about it, and we ignored all of that. so here we are. >> he's got a gun! >> this is going to get dirty, man. >> narrator: now on "frontline," "trump's american carnage." (gun fires) >> shots fired! shots fired! >> shots fired! >> frontline is made possible by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. and by the corporation for public broadcasting. additional support is provided by the abrams foundation, committed to excellence in journalism... the john d. and catherine t. macarthur foundation, committed to building a more just, verdant and peaceful world. more at macfound.org. park foundation dedicated to hei

mike? mike: haven't seen it. sorry. >> i must confess i haven't seen "encanto" but my grandsons love that song. they don't -- they sing "we don't talk about bruno" all the time. they say, you have to learn the words. kristen: you do. how can you nominate if you can't talk about it? >> in a weird way this may get it more publicity. because now we are having the conversation. spencer is going to learn the words and maybe later in the week sing it for us. spencer: i might do that. larry: can it be nominated next year? kristen: i think it had to be released at a certain time. larry: if you have ever been to disneyland or walt disney world, your picture may end up in the smithsonian. the smithsonian national museum of american history is working on a project that will feature people at the happiest place on earth. they are looking photos of you, your friends and family at either park and the story behind the photo. photos from decades ago or last week are good. they can even be blurry. to learn more or submit your pho

watch. >> hang mike pence! hang mike pence! hang mike pence! >> that gallows outside. legitimate political discourse. you want to hang somebody, that's legitimate political discourse. i guess, the resolution they passed means beating police to within an inch of their lives, that is that is legitimate political discourse, too. the former president's rhetoric at that rally on january 6th looks like marching orders now. >> going to walk down to the capitol. and we're gonna cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women, and we're probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them. because you'll never take back our country with weakness. you have to show strength, and you have to be strong. and we fight. we fight like hell. and if you don't fight like hell, you are not going to have a country anymore. >> uh, gosh. so, those ordinary citizens engaged in legitimate political discourse, they got their marching orders right there. he told them to go to the capitol. he told them to take back our country. he told them to fight like hell. that's what the rnc today

find out which of each carter and mike think is the better to side with and how. plus after the biggest one day drop in value in the history of the u.s. stock market who could blame tommy zhang for making a play for matchup it's time to risk less, to make more "options actions" starts right now. >> it's been a busy week of big tech earnings. alphabet and amazon seem to get all the love, both companies surging after reporting, but did they both really deserve it? carter, start to unpack this idea for us. >> yeah, i mean so much going on for starters two weeks ago we were playing google the down side looking for a netflix-type drop, a facebook-type drop and indeed it did the opposite we're looking for a pairs trade of google relative to amazon these are ratio charts you're going to see now the first chart it's just looking at one stock versus the other, divide it if you will, and the direction of the line is all you need to know so this is google's relative performance to amazon. and google's been outperforming as amazon's gone sideways, that's obvious and then it b

. >> all right, we've got mike o the phone to michael, what is the treat here? >> the first thing i would say is that carter has made some phenomenal calls in th commodities space over the course of the last several weeks. he made those and wheat, corn, silver, gold and all those proved to be quite prescient. so i wouldn't be inclined to bet against him at the point at the - as a former floor trader, what we saw yesterday in crude oi was very close to one of the more barest signals you coul see. in those situations where yo take something - gas open higher, close lower's. the first month, the gta futur didn't do that it was higher than it fell below. it did recover to be slightl higher but crude futures actually did see that pattern we saw the december crud future for example, trade high then fall about 9% at close, day over day to me, that definitely looks like something you want to fade one of the ways you coul potentially play this, if yo are looking just to make a general move on commodities, i with the etf g f. g. the s mp commodity index trust now this is

gold and oil find out which of each carter and mike think is the better to side with. and how. plus, after the biggest one-day drop in value in the history of the u.s. stock market, who could blame tony sang for making a play for meta. he'll show you how he's doing it it's time to risk less, to make more options action starts right now. >> let's get right to it it's been a busy week of big tech earnings and while investors were hitting the like button on meta, alphabet and amazon seemed to get all the love both companies surging after reporting, but did they really deserve it carter, start to unpack this idea for us. >> yeah. i mean, so much going on for starters, two weeks ago, we were playing google to the downside, looking for a netflix type, a facebook type profit indeed, it did the exact opposite what we're looking at now, a pairs trade. google relative to amazon. these are all ratio charts you're going to see you. the first chart, it's just looking at one stock versus the other. divided, if you will, and the direction of the line is all you need to know this is google's r

mike: i am mike emanuel in washington we are continuing with live team coverage with the developments in ukraine it is 3:00 a.m. and the nation's capital and 10:00 a.m. and the capital of ukraine in kiev explosions can be heard and ominous sign that russia's mapping of the assault on three days of fierce resistance from ukrainian military. the same time comes word from the common data russian delegation has arrived from the belarusian city and we will talk to officials but can moscow be believed and trusted the escalating danger for has forced 120,000 and their homeland and millions more likely to follow but there president has refused an offer from the united states to. >> and the european union to further and richardson at the pentagon and an action-packed our straightahead starting with steve on the ground what is the very latest? >> mike, we are hearing loud explosions behind me and off to the north and to the west of the capital city in ukraine artillery shelling has begun estimating every three or four minutes we're hearing a new explosion and it seems to be to miles from where

today mike pence is the outlier. his boss who says the january 6 committee should be investigating pence, he's the main stream. he'll be talking about that shortly. first randi kaye who talked with the people who heard mike pence speak today. >> reporter: would you like to hear mike pence push back on donald trump about his -- his false claims that pence had the right to overturn the election result? >> no. i'm looking forward to hearing the former president speak about what real american leadership looks like. >> but does the former vice president have a duty to push back against these false claims by the president? >> no, he's not. he's a private citizen. i don't think he has a duty to do that, no. >> reporter: shortly before vice president mike pence took the stage at the florida chapters conference in orlando, members weighed in on whether pence should address the recent attacks from his former boss. >> i don't know that this is the time or place for that kind of conversation. >> reporter: this week the former pr

i'm here for mike pence and to see him. now, whether those people still exist out there after mike pence has continued to sort of cower in the sha in terms of what it has meant for the damage that it has done to our democracy and how, you know, what is more than half of republicans actually believe that the 2020 election was stolen, and look at the groundwork being placed across the country in states where they're actually -- there are candidates out there that are running, extreme candidates in the republican platform that are being placed to possibly overturn elections in the future. and so if you're a moderate republican, you're watching this, and you're watching this in disgust. >> you know, it's interesting because you were talking about the sides in which the former vice president could be on, he could be on the side of truth, as you put it, or on the side of tradition with the rnc, but is there any even tradition left when it comes to the rnc? i mean, is there any republican party left? is there any conservative repu

mike, how about you? >> yeah, it's interesting, we've seen some pretty good operating results out of a number of the retailers and yet several of them are not behaving particularly well. i think that's a bit troubling but i think it also speaks a bit to the options structure that tony has selected. if you purchase the stock you face the risk of the stock declining and using the call spread limits your risk to just a fraction of the current stock price, i think that's actually the kind of strategy one wants to use at this time. i still believe we have trouble ahead. not just in retail but generally >> yeah. tony last word. >> yeah, i understand the risk and that's part of why we're using the option strategy but i do think tjx is a little different from other retailers especially heading into more uncertainty, this is the type of retailer that tends to do a little better, that's why i'm positioned for this right now. >> all right still to come, claim jumping, we're digging deep into a sector that could capi

mike: nice try, rams. kristen: if you love movie theater popcorn, you soon won't have to go to the theaters to get it. amc theaters is ramping up their plans to sell kiosk stores. amc wantsamc wantsamc wantsamc t people watching movies and streaming at home. it is also looking to partner with food delivery services for first popcorn. who is a popcorn fan here? ama: i do like the popcorn. that is one place where i say, let's get movie theater popcorn loaded down in butter. kristen: is the butter what makes it better? ama: it is also really salty. there is something about it. i think it is being doused in butter. larry: too much butter is no good. that is just a personal thing. mike: it is that smell, too. when you walk into a movie theater, it sets the tone. you smell that and you are like, i am in the movie theater, i may eat something not healthy. larry: it is a treat. this could be a treat as well. plant-based foods popping up in restaurants from high-end to fast food. we are learning that plant-based fo

mike, can you hear me? ♪ minnesota minnesota ♪ >> jimmy: mike, it's -- >> is that kimmie campbell? how the heck you keep getting cameras everywhee? >> jimmy: we never established that. i want to know how you're doing and really what you're doing right now. >> if you must know, i'm burying all my loot in the ground. >> jimmy: oh, yeah, i heard you got banned by your bank. >> that's okay. i call this nature savings account. >> jimmy: okay, that's a positive way of thinking about it. i wanted to ask, what are you doing trying to deliver pillows to canada? >> i got a u-haul packed with luxurious mypillows for the truckers, but those canucks won't let me in! so then i was saying maybe i should toss 'em out of a helicopter. >> jimmy: right, i heard that. although -- i don't know. wouldn't they get sucked up into the rotor blades? if you threw pillows out of a -- >> ordinary pillows would get sucked up into the rotor blades, yes. but mypillows are filled with patented dead pigeon technology which helps them fall from the sky like bricks. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: well, you -- they're filled

mike, which one? >> as you just pointed out we obviously saw a lot of weakness in commodities generally today but there was a rare bright spot and that was copper. copper actually closed higher on the day while many other commodities closed lower the other thing i would point out is that not an unreasonable valuation where it currently stands the street is looking for about 37% growth and substantial growth in terms of net income year on year so i think this is one of those situations where we can basically take a contrarian commodity view simply because it's a little bit more idiosyncratic. we obviously a lot of support for copper as well because we've got things like infrastructure going on i don't mind playing to the up side that said, this is a stock that has had a fairly good rally of late so i'm trying to find an options structure here which will allow me to play for some up side, realize there's actually some fairly expensive options and try to mitigate my immediate down side exposure in the ev

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mike pence, of course, was one of the most loyal vice presidents you could ever find. he was renowned for his almost filial loyalty to donald trump, defending mr trump even in some of his most controversial moments, so these remarks are being seen — being granted with some astonishment here. they are the most outspoken criticism of his former boss to have come from mike pence. but in the last few days, donald trump has basically ground down on the narrative that mike pence could have done more to basically prevent the election from going tojoe biden. he said he could have "overturned" the results of the electoral college. now, that is, of course, false. and today, mike pence decided to call donald trump out on that, saying that mr trump was wrong in that assertion and also saying that such a move by a vice—president would be, as he put it, "un—american". this comes, though, at the same time — as i alluded to there, david — the republican party censuring two of its top lawmakers for investigating the capitol riot. what did they call it — "legitimate politica

>> i have no idea what motivates mike pence. how do you stand there as the vice president of the united states, know that it was not a close election. kn that you lost that election. and allow what the republicans did, to instill doubt into the legitimacy of the american electoral system? how do you just stand there and let that happen? i don't get it. the key of democracy, someone has to be willing to lose. mike pence lost the election, he shld have come out and said that, thanked vice president-elect harris, should have been gracious. that's how we do it in america. i have no idea what motivates that man. >> cnn is also learning that jim jordan got a call from president trump on the morning of january 6th. and it was ten minutes long. this was likely before the rioters stormed the capitol, and before jordan objected to certifying biden's win. it's interesting he said he didn't remember it. how big of a deal do you think this is? >> i think we now understand better that clip of jim jordan being asked about his conversations wit

a very important dynamic and these donors calling up mike pence as gabby orr saying atta boy, mike, but they won't do it themselves. the fact it's news, that it's significant, that mike pence states a fact. he stated a fact. mike pence did not create policy. he stated a fact, i do not have the authority. what trump was asking me to do was outside of the bounds. it was un-american. just that that is news tells you about the intimidation factor within the party. >> absolutely. and we should question how much he should be applauded for this. he is just stating the reality. it's clear, though, he is trying to find a lane for himself. there is a thin line between being loyal and being viewed as weak, right? and if he is trying to make a political comeback, what does it say about him that he continues to let himself be a punching bag from the former president? so i think the determination was made probably by his inner circle, listen, you have to say something. the time has come. this no longer looks good for you if you are thinking about your political future. >> trying to figure out what th

pablo: mike pence y certificÓ las elecciones. agregÓ que no hay nada mÁs antiamericano que una persona decida las elecciones y que lo que estÁ en juego no es el futuro personal polÍtico de cada cual o del partido sino del paÍs. donald trump reconoce pÚblicamente que querÍa que mike pence anulara las elecciones y lo calificÓ de cobarde. [habla en inglÉs] pablo: y ha seguido alegando que hubo fraude, pero sin aportar pruebas. la gran mayorÍa de su base lo apoya y es el lÍder del partido republicano,pero no sin grietas de respaldo. >> donald trump ya pasÓ. el deberÍa entender que las elecciones las perdiÓy sÍ, hubo algunos casos de fraude, pero no fueron tantos como para haber dado un resultado opuesto a lo que Él querÍa. el perdiÓ y que lo acepte en vez de seguir atacando . pablo: muchos se preguntan ahora por quÉ dijo esto en este momento. algunos piensan que se quede postular a las elecciones del 2024 y se quiere distanciar de donald trump, pero otros piensan lo contrario. que no se presentara y que puede habla

mike - think? it's an interesting question. mike pence i think? it's an interesting question. mike pence of| think? it's an interesting i question. mike pence of course was one of the most loyal vice president you could everfind, renowned for his almost filial loyalty to donald trump, defending mr trump even in some of his most controversial moments. so these remarks are being seen with some astonishment here, they are the most outspoken criticism of his former boss to have come from mike pence but in the last few days, donald trump has basically ground down on the narrative that mike pence could have done more to basically prevent the election from going to joe prevent the election from going tojoe biden. he says he could have overturned the results of the electoral college. that is, of course, false. and today, mike pence decided to call donald trump out on that, saying that the trump was wrong in that assertion and also saying that such a move by a vice president would be, as he put it, un—american. this put it, un-american. this comes. — put it, un-american. this comes

legislature. >> it was very sad when mike pence gave those votes over. >> i think that mike has been sadly hurt with what took place with respect to january 6th. i think that he has been mortally wounded frankly, because i see the reaction that he is getting from people, and why didn't he just hand it back to the legislature. >> holly, pence clearly wants to be president one day, but it took him 13 months to state the obvi obvious. >> yeah, pence is like a lot of republicans who know better, a lot, and refuse to disavow trump because of the twitter, but there is no twitter and now afraid of primary challenges. but at every point the republicans have had every opportunity to disavow trumpism, and go for democracy and say that it must be protected and this person is anti-democratic, and at every point they have either said nothing or, you know, tacitly kind of encouraged him. so we are getting to the point now where so much of the republican party is doubled down on this anti-democratic, anti-you know, voter, pro voter suppression, and anti-count the vote kind of thing that we are in a

mike schmidt is here. he has one of the bylines on that extraordinary "new york times" reporting of trump's involvement in the attempt to seize voting machines. also an nbc national security contributor. jackie is here, "washington post" congressional correspondent who reporting we just lead from. also joining us, former republican congressman, david jolly. now the chairman of the serve america movement. also an msnbc contributor. and nbc legal analyst, joyce vance is here. mike, take us through what you and your colleagues are reporting today. >> i think the biggest takeaway and the reason we thought this story was so important is that it draws trump into these efforts in a new and more direct way. we've known for the past year about a range of different efforts that were undertaken by trump and his allies and republicans across the country to overturn the election. we know that in many of those instances, trump was you know, using his own sort of cajoling and calling and pushing and pressuring people. bu

i was happy to hear mike. what i wanted to say primarily was that when you look at it from a point of view, what is going to attract a deeper partnership, not whether democracy or whether the idea and actions are going to be met. you know, ideas are critical, i agree. look at it from an indian point of view. secondly, i want to make a point about we have not spoke about the roles of european states. the response that your past and the level of pain that europeans are willing to bear is going to be critical in terms of how kind in response to the situation. specifically, we do not seek massive escalations appear even with massive escalations -- seek massive escalations. the final point, i sort of say that this balancing act that we have seen today, to me, and is different from china and russia. quality is different between the united states and china. china is talking about how the united states is fundamentally looking to contain it. you're not going to see a split. and none of that is going to happen immediat

politically speaking, what mike pence did was dumb. if mike pence wants to run for president in 2024 or 2028, the people who support donald trump, the people who are anti-trump we can name, mitt romney, adam kinzinger, and liz cheney, the fact that we can name them. the only thing that explains why mike pence did what he did is he believes it. he has to know that politically speaking he's you not in the majority of where his party is, and i think that, by the way, is a sad thing, but it is a reality. >> there are more important things than politics. >> yeah, this is principles, pam, like there's -- >> this is country over party. >> yes, there is nothing to be gained by mike pence going after donald trump and saying he's wrong. i'm right. we have to get back to the constitution. of course that message should make sense to any republican and ten years ago, it would have. but in this moment, that message is a political loser. and stunning as that is to say, that is a fact. >> and also because of the dichotomy that happened yesterday on th

were chanting "hang mike pence." he had to evacuate with him. he is someone who can speak to the committee, and tell them exactly what was said. and i think one of the critical things that we learned is that when he went to testify to the committee, let's remember, it was under subpoena and the documents he handed over were under subpoena. but i'm told he spoke to the committee at length, and while many of the interviews have been done virtually because of covid, mark short went in person to do his testimony. >> um, that's fascinating. uh, the -- do we -- do we know why he went in person? >> we don't. but i think that there's no question -- look. we know if someone -- a witness -- comes in person, it has a different quality to it. it has eye contact. people relate differently. so, i think that it speaks to the fact that he's such a critical witness and that he was willing to do it. >> yeah. we mentioned earlier, the statement that the former president released yesterday. i want to read it, again, because it -- it's p

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they are not with what mike pence just said. they disagree with mike pence. what does that mean for the future of the republican party? >> go ahead, gloria. >> what does it mean for mike pence political future? that's why i say maybe he's thinking about not running. who knows. we had the republican committee vote to censure liz cheney and adam kinsinger and they said it was political discourse but they have tried to walk that back. they said the people protesting peacefully were doing political discourse. they voted to censure the two people who support what mike pence said. i think bill is right. you want to take this a step further but i do think that this is hugely important because mike pence has just gotten a divorce from donald trump. i mean trump has been at him saying the january 6th committee should investigate the former vice president. i think pence, uncharacteristic ly i might add, gave it back to him today. he said i follow the constitution. i'm right. you're wrong. >> bill, i hear you. we have a million examples. senator lindsey graham say i'm o

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we begin with hour with former vice president mike pence. he's come out with his most forceful denunciation of the big lie forced by former president trump. >> the former vice president called out his former boss by name saying that, quote, president trump is wrong in claiming that he, meaning the vice president, could overturn the 2020 election. now, vice president pence previously defended his actions on january 6th. but donald trump has ramped up his push of the bi

justifying the chance of hang mike pence. no condemnation there, but a resolution of the two republicans willing to join that committee to investigate what happened with january 6th. >> you are so right. it is such a mind-boggling day. if we have not lived through the last seven or eight years, nobody would believe it. but, it doesn't come as necessarily a shock. cynthia, i cannot let you go without discussing michael avenatti, he has gone from being this anti trump crusader, from a felon convicted of stealing from stormy daniels. what exactly is he facing impossible prison time, how are his prospects for appeal? >> well, he has a big problem. that is not only does he have this conviction of these two felonies, the wire fraud and the stolen identity of felonies, aggravated stolen identity felonies, he has a prior family now with the extortion of nike. so, when it comes to his sentencing, he is not going to get probation. michael avenatti is going to jail. he is going to go from being the guy who was pondering, running for pre

and they're looking at mike flynn in particular, anderson, as a key witness. now mike flynn we know was very involved in pushing this idea of seizing the machines. you played the audio of what he said on newsmax the night before that oval office meeting that interview on what he said on newsmax, as i understand it and understood it for the past 14 minutes, further what he said in that meeting. but nonetheless, he was still advocating in that meeting that the former president had the power to authorize the government to do this. >> and what more do you know about rudy giuliani's role in all this? he was arguably the most outspoken person in a rogue's gallery of outspoken, outlandish claims made by people. he was certainly among the top when it came to outrageous claims about election fraud. but you report at a certain point even he balked at some of this, at least the military component. >> so anderson, and we reported this at the time too, although i think we know more detail now. others have as well, jonathan swan at axios in particular at the time, or a few