so so jefferson, i take a little bit of liberty with jefferson. it's fairly clear that jefferson thought that coming together just to amend the constitution was good enough, right, but that's not so much fun. right? so ultimately i i kind of take what jefferson said and imagine real constitutional conventions where they could fact start over again. i do make the argument though that until 2022 there wouldn't have been hugely radical design changes. because things were working relatively. okay in terms of bicameral legislatures and presidents and so on. yes, i make arguments that president, you know, you might have one term presidents that are six or eight years, but ultimately structurally separation of powers and federalism probably wouldn't have been wouldn't have been tinkered with in the in the radical sense, but you have in in 1903 i make an argument that henry cabot lodge for example would have wanted a real significant power shifting to the president and foreign affairs, right? so, what does that look like? that's a real structural change,

well, let's start with the jackson jefferson thing. these are two huge figures in the party's history if you will who are out of favor now, i guess that's not all that surprising. no because more and more historians, especially in a lot of americans too realize he how central slavery is two american history you can argue about 1619 project whether the correct about about that or not, but clearly we had the most important event in american history some would argue as a civil war. i would probably agree civil war i would say and the civil war was of course about whether a part of the country could break away to preserve slavery. so it's not surprising that two presidents who were incredibly popular figures at the time when they were president when they're alive, but also were major slave owners independent slavery. in fact in jackson's case wanted to expand it into the western territories taking from mexico. it's not surprising that present-day democrats in this multi-racial multicultural party are not going to be very, you know, happy a

, insofar as honoring them, i don't know if they call the jefferson/jackson dinner that anymore, jefferson's statue was taken down inside the new york city council chambers because of his history of slave-owning and all. you make a reference to prevatism, start to research your book when donald trump won the election and sent democrats into a state of disarray, what are your thoughts on how the democratic party, start with the jefferson/jackson thing, two huge members of the party who are out of favor and that's not all surprising. >> no, because more and more historians are realizing how essential slavery is to american history, you can argue about the 1619 project, certainly when we had the most important event in american history, the civil war, which, of course, was whether a part of the country should break away to preserve slavery so it's not surprising that two presidents who were incredibly popular figures at the time when they were president, when they were alive but also were major slave-owners and defended slavery, in fact jackson's case wanted to expand it into western territorie

they always go back to jefferson. so i went to the jefferson library. and i looked there and there's one guy in charge. he goes. nobody ever asked me in depth until recently about how we took on islamic extremism. so i thought you know jefferson that might get you to look at the book. and if i told you islamic extremism we live with it every day. but can i tell you what we did and how we prevailed and jefferson did so much on his resume. no one really talks about it. so i go uncloud ground like the spies go do it. and people love the story they can relate to jefferson because he's fantastic. he belongs at every statute not to be taken down. right but what if i told you william eaton probably don't know him. what if i talk about presley o'bannon probably don't know him. so the rest of the world turned away and said we don't want to deal with these islamic nations. we're just gonna pay him money not to invade us us not to attack us. america stood up for itself and they sent a group of people 500 miles through the desert and took triple it. we're about to

she's this week's jefferson award winner. >> it's fascinating. why was it eliminated from history? it is our history. >> so true. >> carolyn shares african american history with hundreds of visitors a day who come to downtown red wood city. >> right, yes. >> her grandson inspired the event as a kindergartener in 1997. >> he says grammy, i am not doing another report on dr. king because i know everything there is to know about him. so his big question to me was weren't there any other famous black people that did anything? >> reporter: in his honor carolyn founded the black history museum and learning center. she's taken smaller versions to schools and event centers all ore the bay area since 2001 with the support of donations and sponsors. now an adult, he brings his children. >> sweet potato pie. i said you are talking about me. >> reporter: it's not just for kids. >> my head is spinning with joy. i feel like a kid in a candy store of african american blight history. >> cultural things, things my mom talked about, my dad talked about. >> my favorite part would be maybe janet. i ha

there are a lot of statues of thomas jefferson. we are not erasing thomas jefferson from our history. >> who gets to decide who is honored and where is our next topic. when you appear on history as it happens in july around the fourth anniversary of the unite the right rally, the confederate stages did come down -- in august, confederate stages came down in charlottesville, general lee and jackson. our discussion was really about why certain narratives gain ascendancy and why we today believe certain narratives or a certain version of history instead of say a different or more complete or revised version, the issue of the confederate statues is arguably the best one because as a yankee myself who flew down to washington, i am a yankee i guess, moved down to washington dc a decade ago and noticed over the river in alexandria there still streets and roads named after confederates and i was puzzled why that would be the case and in charlottesville, statues were not put up right after the civil war to honor battlefield heroes, they wer

they're taking a statue of jefferson down. we can argue about whether or not it should be taken down or not. there's a lot of statues of thomas jefferson. we are not erasing thomas jefferson from our history. >> well, there is an issue, who gets to decide who is honored and where. >> yes, that's right. >> that's our next topic, because when you appeared on the "history as it happens" podcast, fairly recently, it was in july, around the fourth anniversary of the "unite the right" rally, the confederate statues came down -- it was in august, i take that back. the confederate statues came down in charlottesville, generals lee and jackson. our discussion was really about why certain narratives gain a certain ascendancy and why we today believe certain narratives or believe a certain version of history instead of, say, a different or a more complete or a revised version. and i think the issue of the confederate statues is arguably the best one, because as a yankee myself, moved down to washington, i'm a mets fan but i'm from the no

there's a lot of statues of thomas jefferson. we are not erasing thomas jefferson from our history. >> well there was an issue, who gets to decide who's honored and where. that's our next topic because when you appeared on history as it happens podcast, fairly recently, it was actually in july around the fourth anniversary of the unite the right rally. the confederate statues did come down, actually was an august i take that back. the confederate statues came down in charlottesville, general lee and jackson. in our discussion, really about why certain narratives gays ascendancy and why we today believe certain narratives or believe a certain version of history instead of say, a different or more complete or revised version. and i think the issue of the confederate statues is arguably the best one. because, as a yankee myself, move down to washington, i'm a mets fan but i am from the north. i'm a yankee, i guess. move down to washington d.c. about a decade ago and i notice right over the river in alexandria, there were still stree

if you know someone who has done exceptional service, nominate them for a jefferson award. go to kpix.com/hero and please provide details. >> i love the love story mixed in too. >> love at the table. >> never too late. >>> coming up next, this was dubbed the world's biggest potato but it turns out it was not a >>> oakland's lake merit is a popular spot for locals and tourists. now you may have to pay up. new parking fee in the works. that and more coming up at 3:00. >>> it looks good from the top of salesforce tower. if you look east. it's pretty cloudy from west of this point. clouds will hang around for a good part of today. sunshine and relatively warm for just about every other location. mid to upper 60s in the bay. we do this again saturday. yes, we are still on track for light rain late sunday into monday. >>> it turns out the largest potato in the world is not a potato. >> a couple in new zealand dug up this 17-pound specimen and named it doug. they submitted it to guinness book of world records. a dna test revealed it is not a potato. it is basically just a really t

jefferson has this beautiful he calls he calls the slave trade a radical a radical form of warfare. he talks about it slavery is an assemblage of horrors. he has these very powerful words and something and it's in his rough draft. they are capitalized right they are they are he means for them to be there and they all get struck out by the congress except for the bed at the end of that paragraph when he says and now they are using enslaved people against us that bit stays so the great object to desire gets struck out completely the merciles in the the domestic insurrection. part, and then they are using them against us that stays and that becomes so so slavery becomes something that's not controversial because they're only talking about one part of the equation and that that to me that part of it very much holds water of the 69% project are argument. that slavery is really important to this that part holds water as a cause. it's more difficult as a consequence you bet. thank you. so i get to exercise the co-chair prerogative to get my own my own question in and at the very end of the

sharon chen introduces us to this week's jefferson award winner. hi, sharon. >> hi. sean is training high school graduates with big skills while building tiny homes for those who need them most. >> all the pieces we want painted, let's have them here. >> reporter: structural engineer sean tigner teaches those with no construction experience how to build a 25 by 8.5 foot home from scratch in nine months. >> we started with just a metal trailer and a pile of sticks and they built the entire thing. so, they got to try everything. >> reporter: another great week at the tiny house. sean founded big skills tiny homes in 2016. the nonprofit is working on its fifth house in three years. >> we go as close as we can. >> reporter: sean trains four participants at a time in a fairfax lot, five days per week, learning everything from carpentry and cabinetry to electrical and roofing. graduates get career counseling and follow-up for five years. >> everyone who has finished the program has been offered a job in the trade. >> here we go, off to oakland. >> reporter: most of the tin

it is the common answer that is -- there is a series of letters that he wrote to jefferson about this, and also to his response to niles, which has framed how we think about the revolution, and written about the revolution, about a very long time. since 1815, and 1818. but definitely in the last generation or so. i will get into that a little bit here in a minute. this is what john adams said. remember, he looks like this. it is important, i have his elderly picture, his portrait here, because i am going to show you a younger picture of john adams, which is a little bit different than him in 1818. he said, the colonies had grown up under constitutions of government so different, they were so great in variety of religions, we were composed of owen in different nations, their customs had little resemblance and their intercourse rare that to unite them this the same principles of theory and the same system of action was certainly a difficult enterprise, he said of the -- the enterprise being bringing the 13 clocks to strike as one. the completed accomplishment of it in so short a time an

it's a program started by this week's jefferson award winner, sharon chen has his story. >> reporter: hi, ryan and sarah. ryan spurlock is training the next generation of manufacturing workers, and they are getting more than jobs. >> reporter: ryan spurlock wanted to empower historically underserved people with the skills to become san francisco's next generation of inventors, designers, and makers. >> we tried to take a multifaceted approach. >> reporter: so, he started human made in 2018, the city's first community-based advanced manufacturing training center. >> one thing that we see through our programs is that individuals come in lost, figuring out where they will add value and how they will support themselves in the bay area. >> reporter: more than 130 students have gone through the nonprofits free 12 week training program in the design district. 9 of 10 students are extremely low income, 3 of 4 are people of color. 70% have continued education or landed jobs in roles ranging from quality control to design and assembly. >> we are teaching people how to fish, how to approach life

>> a lot if you are this week's jefferson award winners. sharon chen talked to those serving up a safe haven for those who need it most. >> clyde jr. and sister beth aaron create a space of the table to bring their community closer together. >> rinse all the corn beef. >> reporter: from the dinner menu to the decorations, sister jeanette braun, and her all volunteer team address every detail to make sure every guest feels loved. >> with that warm welcome for each guest and gesture of hospitality will reaffirm the dignity of each person. >> reporter: the weekly supper started in 2012 when client beth a jr. wanted to create a sense of community among members of his church. the founder and co-owner of anl wind merchants wanted to do something to honor his late mother, so we talked it over with his priest, father charlie of our lady of the piller parish. >> a wine tasting and we will bring all these people together. i thought that might be a fun event. >> reporter: that event turned into an annual fundraiser to sustain a brand-new nonprofit eve

we've already invested in to get those neon signs for people to enjoy at night include the elk hotel, jefferson hotel, the verona, not to mention some we've done in chinatown, as well as the city's portal neighborhood. >> we got the fund to restore it. it took five months, and the biggest challenge was it was completely infested with pigeons. once we got it clean, it came out beautiful. >> neon signs are often equated with film noir, and the noir genre as seen through the hollywood lens basically depicted despair and concentration. >> you would go downtown and see the most recent humphrey bogart film filled with neon in the background. and you'd see that on market street, and as market street got seedier and seedier and fewer people continued to go down, that was what happened to all the neon strips of light. >> the film nori might start with the light filled with neon signs, and end with a scene with a single neon sign blinking and missing a few letters. >> one of my favorite scenes, orson welles is chasing rita hayworth with neon signs in the background. >> i think what the office of economic

. >> sharon chen introduces us to the belmont woman who started it many years ago in this week's jefferson award winner. sharon? >> ryan and liz, carolyn hoskins runs a traveling museum of african american history. it began with a question from her grandson 25 years ago. >> it's fascinating. why was it eliminated from our history? cause it is our history. >> that's so true. >> reporter: carolyn hoskins shares african-american history with hundreds of visitors to per day who come to downtown redwood city. >> right, yeah. >> reporter: her grandson inspired the event as a kindergartner in 1997. >> he came to me, and he says grammy, i am not doing another report on dr. king, because i know everything there is to know about him. so, his big question to me was, weren't there any other famous black people who did anything? >> reporter: in his honor, carolyn founded the domine hoskins black history center. she has taken exhibits to schools and event centers all over the bay area since 2001 with support of donations and sponsors. now an adult, domine brings his two children. >> this is the sweet po

but what i came back to over and over again was adams and jefferson and franklin and washington went back to the stories over and over again because they thought they would resinate with people. they thought this is something we should spend our time and money telling the american people about. because we only have a very small box here of arguments that will work. i just finished a book about in north carolina the enliegtsenment ideas about religion -- people are very unhappy about that. so they think that the revolutionary leaders in north carolina in 1777 are secret catholics and this is a popish thing because they are saying that they don't really believe in the trinity. so there's plot to try to kill patriot leaders. and those guys consider themselves pariots. so the window of how you make this argument is a very small one. so how do you sort of thread that needle over and over again. i think race is really a safe argument. page 185, i'm glad you think white supremacy is an ideology. that's good. if i were to change that sentence, republicanism in the form that it takes and foun

if you build builders, the builders will build. >> this week's jefferson award in the bay area goes to sean tickner. >> sean has done field trips for children for change where kid built chairs. the next field trip is in the fall and he is taking applications until april 15. so you have more time to check it out. >>> next on kpix5 and streaming on cbs news bay area. >> high tech solution fo >>> blue origin made its fourth human space flight. at 3:00, how the mission is meant to inspire elementary school students across the country. >>> a dog can make you feel protected but what about this robot guard dog? >> meet spot, a four legged robot dog with the ancient city of pompeii. it has a 360-degree camera so it can keep an eye on people illegally digging in the city's ruins. it will chase you down and bite you. >> that is more intense than my pit bull. >> kind >> steffy: you haven't changed, sheila. >> sheila: brooke is the one that hasn't changed. boozing it up with deacon, cheating on your father the first opportunity she had. >> steffy: because of you. this chance at a relationship with

. >> reporter: with limited treatment options, nancy found an intriguing research project at jefferson health. >> i really feel that it's helping me. >> reporter: the jefferson research is testing platelet-rich plasma, prp, from the patient's only blood to restore smell. it's been used to heal injuries and regrow hair. now instead of injections, dr. rosen and his team are using a biodegradable sponge infused with prp. >> you put it up very high in the nose where all the smell fibers are located. gets absorbed through the lining of the nose. it basically helps those cells that have been damaged by the covid virus to start regenerating. >> reporter: he says of the nine covid patients who have received prp, eight have responded. >> i'm able to start to enjoy some flavors, food again. >> reporter: after five treatments once a month, nancy says her sense of smell and taste are slowly coming back. she's able to enjoy her perfume again and is back to wine tastings. stephanie stah, cbs news, philadelphia. >> that's fascinating. i bet she couldn't wait to get back to wine tasting. >>> coming up

secondly and most important, the most precious people of my life live in jefferson county, jefferson parish in metairie. one-year-old and a three-year-old, granddaughters. it is important to me. i know exactly what you are talking about when you are talking about the price of flood insurance. i want to make sure you understand where i am coming from here. you talk about 2.0 and how it will put an unbearable financial burden on homeowners, and cost up to $7,000, may be $8,500. expand on that a little bit more. >> thank you for the question. st. charles parish borders jefferson parish, we are about a 10 minute drive from metairie. what we see around these new policies, not just in st. charles, but jefferson parish, where they are protected by the system, the hurricane storm risk reduction system. the 100 year storm protection system. that played a very big role under how much you paid for flood insurance. if you are protected from the 100 year storm, you don't have the same risk. what we are seeing is policies in st. charles and jefferson were behind the risk reduction system are seein

. >> reporter: for her passion and compassion for those in need, this week's jefferson award in the bay area goes to deborah orla. >> to encompass all her different service projects she is cofounding a profit nonprofit called hearts for humanity and she is president of the warmest club of greater san francisco and today is her 56th birthday. >> happy birthday to deborah. just an incredible woman, such an inspiration. how does she have time to do all this? >> i don't know, but she is driven. you know what her nickname is. they call her the machine because she gets things done. >> yes she does. >> very selfless person, thank you so much, we appreciate it. >>> maybe you know someone who has done extraordinary service for the community, nominate that person for a jefferson award. the online form is at kpix.com/0. >>> the oakland zoo has two new tortoises rescued from the illegal wildlife trade. the duo was confiscated from a roadside a zoo in oklahoma, rescued by a wild care foundation last year and now they found there forever home. there they go. the males are teenagers and we are told on

rank-and-file members attended jefferson-jackson dinners, democratic presidents made pilgrimages to jackson's hermitage, and they all proudly held high the torch of jacksonian democracy. not anymore. democrats today are busy cancelling their party's founder. they've erased his name from their dinners. they've denounced his legacy as evil. they've even tried to remove his image from the twenty-dollar bill. the democratic party today is hardly democratic and certainly not jacksonian. they reflect the tastes and prejudices of a small, over-educated elite clustered in a few of our great cities. they serve the interests of the wealthy and the powerful. they speak the alien language of the campus-seminar room and import its culture into the corporate boardroom. while democratic intellectuals attack our history, their street militias attack our heroes. when you're tearing down statues of washington, lincoln, and grant, it's not because you're protesting historic wrongs, it's because you hate america. [applause] the democratic party has abandoned the soul of jacksonian democracy, grounded in a deep a

if you look at the election, jefferson is hedging. so i think looking at the scientific pursuits is a rich topic to explore. okay, back to our chat, our wonderful questions. was there a museum or cabinet that particularly surprised you in the course of your research? >> yeah. i think all of them did, it would be quite honest. that was part of the pleasure of this project to a great extent was how many unexpected moments were part of the research. i think the example i spoke at most length about, that's what really stayed with me because i do think that the idea of this collection that doesn't have a space or a gallery where the objects are scattered, things were getting lost, that's one that really stayed with me as part of how we even think about the narrative of what it means to be a museum and the goals are because i think we think so much about preservation and what is recorded but i think that these histories of loss are just as important to how we think of museums and related to that within peel's museum one story that i really

later on franklin joined with john adams and thomas jefferson to propose that the latin phrase e pluribus unim, from many one, be our nation's motto. our nation continues to struggle with notions of race and equity. the threads of our fragile democracy are fraying. as the people's representatives, it is incumbent on us to make every effort to heed franklin's words of concern and his and jefferson's expression of unity. it is our responsibility to demonstrate not only with our words but with our actions that we can and will keep this republic intact and its people unified. that is why i introduce hr-301, to designate the iconic hymn "life every voice and sing" the national hymn for the united states of america. making "life every voice and sing" as our national hymn will be one step forward. "life every voice and sing" was written by james and johnson as a poem and set to music by his brother john roseman johnson. the hymn was first performed on february 12th, 1900, by a choir of school children from a segregated school in jacksonville, florida. in 1905 booker t. washington recognized the

she is this week's jefferson award winner. >> it is fascinating. i was eliminated from our history? >> reporter: she shares african and american history with hundreds of visitors every day who come to downtown redwood city. her grandson inspired the event as a kindergartner in 1997. >> he came to me and said graham a, i'm not doing another report on dr. king because i know everything there is to know about him. and so has big question to me was, reporter in a at their famous black people that did anything? >> reporter: she found that the black history museum and learning center. she has taken smaller versions of the exhibits to schools since 2001 with the support of donations and sponsors. he brings his two children. >> it is not just for kids as amelia can tell you. >> my head is spinning with joy . i feel like a kid in a candy store of african american black history. cultural things and things that my mom and dad talked about. i favorite part would be janet. i have been collecting stuff for her for a long time. >> reporter: they set up thousands of artifacts and memorabilia. >> i

members attended jefferson jackson dinner spirit democratic members. they all held high the torch of jacksonian democracy. not anymore. democrats today are busy canceling their party's founder. they erased his name for their dinner spirit they denounced his legacy, they even try to remove his image from the $20 bill. remember cannick -- democratic party today is hardly democratic and certainly not jacksonian. they reflect the prejudices of a small overeducated elite cluster in a few of our brave cities. they served the interests of the wealthy and the powerful. they speak the alien language and import culture into the corporate boardroom. both democratic intellectuals attacked our history, their street militias attack our heroes. when you are tearing down statues, washington, lincoln, grant, in his not because you are protesting, it is because you hate america. [applause] the democratic party has abandoned the jacksonian democracy grounded in a deep and simple country in american culture. they can find those attributes embodied in jackson in washington

it is the brainchild of this week's jefferson award winner. >>> ryan spurlock wanted to empire historically underserved people with the skills to become san francisco's next generation of designers, inventors, and makers. he started human made in 2018 the first advanced manufacturing training center. >> individuals come in kind of lawson trying to figure out where they can add value and how they will support themselves in the bay area. >> reporter: within 130 students have gone through the free training program. nine of 10 students are extremely low income. three out of four or people of color. 70% have graduated and most of them have continued their education or landed jobs. >> we are teaching people how to approach lifelong learning and utilize the skills of the modern manufacturing sector cannot just gain an entry level position that grow. >> reporter: this participant was earning 3-d printing. she had been in construction before but now the skills she is gaining from human made are opening new doors. >> i didn't have any skills in those stores were open to me. there will be so many more

yeah, and i mean jefferson is president of the american philosophical society at the same time that he's president of the us, so he's president of both at the same time that the he's commissioning the lewis and clark expedition and he actually has members of the aps, you know work with marijuana mayweather lewis and william clark to help train them in, you know, surveying and botany and forth and so as you're saying going to be that would be a great project. it's fascinating. i mean if you look at the election of 1796, jefferson is just writing, but i'm on the hession fly committee. that's way more interesting. so i think looking at the scientific pursuits of the founders is such a rich topic to explore. okay back to our chat our wonderful questions. let's see was there a museum or cabinet that particularly surprised you in the course of your research? yeah. i think i mean, i think all of them did to be quite honest. i think that was part of the pleasure of this project to a great extent was how you know, how many kind of expected moments. um, we're part of that research and i mean, i th