that's why i think one of the things that's interesting is larry sabato's argument that if you're gonna have a constitutional convention to in today, you need just regular everyday. not politicians how we get there is a totally different ball game, but if you get everyday citizens, you stand a chance of having some consensus in a way that politicians. i don't think bring to the table. okay, i'm gonna also there's two questions pertaining to the 1863 convention. one of them is a short one, which is from a participant who i know as a teacher she is looking for ideas for her students project-based assessments and she's asking if she would be able to use your ideas. for an 1863 convention so any other teachers out there you get the thumbs up absolutely is whatever you want. all right, and then also in 18? it would be a great experiment for any civics or government classroom. absolutely and question. in any of the conventions did anyone ever propose the incorporation of the bill of rights against the states the 1863 convention run by john bingham would probably have been interested in that.