i met with carol king yesterday who i'm a fan of. i grew up with her music. she thinks the world of you. we had a great conversation. my questions to her, and we've got sumpter national forest in south carolina. my question was, one, do trees have lives? and, two, what do we do about the four-feet thatch that's built up. a lot of fires today are in lands where nothing has been done. we had a disagreement, but the passion that she has i respect. i'd love to have an open debate about that. these fires that occurred in 2021 were on par with the five and ten-year national averages, so why are we now getting around to having a hearing about wildfires? i think the answer is obvious. last week we were supposed to have a hearing on how bad the oil and natural gas industry are, but that issue is no longer fits the democrat narrative. the hearing was cancelled and the environment subcommittee needed something to do. why else would we wait over a year until the 117th congress to talk about important issues like wildfires. for weeks the democrats berated board members fr

i met with carole king yesterday i grew up with her music she thanks the world of you. we had a great conversation. my questions to her, we have got something or national forest in south carolina my question was one, trees have lives into what do we do about the 4 feet that's built up because most of you light your fires today are in lands that nothing has been done. we had a disagreement but the passion she has i respect and i would love to have an open debate about that. the fires that occurred in 2021 or five and ten year national averages so why are we now getting around too having a hearing about wildfires? i think the answer is obvious. last week were supposed to have a hearing on how bad the oil and natural gas industry are but that issue is no longer fix the dirt democrat narrative that hereto was canceled the environment subcommittee needed something to do, why else would we wait over a year to the 1117th congress to talk about in important issues like wildfires? for weeks democrats paraded board members from oil and gas companies to appear before this committe

terrific hearing and i would like to direct that question to carole king. ms. king thank you so much tip blane the background on particular issues that we are talking about. the first question i want to ask you is would you like to say say anything that you haven't had a chance to share up to this point in the searing? >> i want to highlight the fact that so many people talk about their concerns for climate which is so overwhelming. the figures that dellasala gave us that the focus has been on coal oil and gas as part of the problem and emissions. i just want people to really recognize that we are logging in our national forests at a rate equal to the emissions are burning coal and logging needs to be part of the discussion. and more than just discussion. i think that's the main point i wanted to get across and the other's a misuse of our federal funds going to subsidize, pay for, we are paying for the road to go and the logging doing damage to our forests. we should reroute that money to help homes that can afford to do and protect communities that representat

terrific hearing and i would like to direct that question to carole king. ms. king thank you so much tip blane the background on particular issues that we are talking about. the first question i want to ask you is would you like to say say anything that you haven't had a chance to share up to this point in the searing? >> i want to highlight the fact that so many people talk about their concerns for climate which is so overwhelming. the figures that dellasala gave us that the focus has been on coal oil and gas as part of the problem and emissions. i just want people to really recognize that we are logging in our national forests at a rate equal to the emissions are burning coal and logging needs to be part of the discussion. and more than just discussion. i think that's the main point i wanted to get across and the other's a misuse of our federal funds going to subsidize, pay for, we are paying for the road to go and the logging doing damage to our forests. we should reroute that money to help homes that can afford to do and protect communities that representat

our fourth witness is carole king, singer/songwriter and land conservation advocate. finally we have james hubbard, a former undersecretary for national resources at the department of agriculture. the witnesses will all be unmuted so we can swear them in. please raise your right hand. do you swear or affirm the testimony you're about to give is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you god? your recognized for your testimony. >> good morning. >> good morning. i'm a basket weaver, mother of five and an ecological practitioner. i was born in falls church, virginia, not too far from the capital but i am indigenous to california, which is the number one economy in the whole united states and the fifth largest economy in the entire world. northern california tribes rarely get credit for their role in this very successful economy, but every bit of value from the soil, water, timber, real estate and california's beautiful landscape is built on the backs of thousands of years of our ancestral presence here. ecosysm after 40 million years the sierra nev

the fourth witnesses carol king, internationally celebrated singer-songwriter and land conservation advocate. finally we have james hubbard a former undersecretary of financial resources in the environment at the department of agriculture. the witnesses will all be on mutated so we can swear that man. please raise your right hand. do you swear or affirm the testimony you are about to give is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help you god? let the record to show the witnesses answered in the affirmative. thank you and without objection your written statements will be made a part of the record and with that, ms. knight, you are recognized for your testimony. >> good morning. >> good morning. i'm a basket weaver, mother of five and ecological practitioner for the indian tribe in california. and the whole united states and of the economy in the entire world. every bit of value from the soil, the water, timber, real estate in california's beautiful landscape with thousands of years of the presence here. the management and the ecosystem after 40 million years the sierra neva

the hearing also included a second panel on forest management with carol king.

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the hearing also included second panel on forest management with conservationist carol king. >>> welcome to ted today's hybrid hearing. pursuant to house rule and feedback i will recognize members verbally, but members retain the right to seek recognition. orders will be recognized in seniority. lastly, if you want to be recognized outside of regular order, you may identify that in several ways. you may use the chat function to send a request. you may send an e-mail to the majority staff or you may unmute your mic to seek recognition. we will begin the hearing in just a moment when we are ready for the live stream. the committee will come to order. without objection, the chair can declare a recess at any time. thank you for joining us today. the climate crisis have are given rise to catastrophic burning across our western forests, including in my home state of california. for decades, the forest service strategy for managing fires was to suppress all fires. in 1935 the forest service established the so-called 10:00 a.m. policy meaning they would put out every fire by 10:00 a.m. the next