s. senior security policy analysts, michael bullis, believes many aspects of the story are questionable when you start committing some of these things to the logical thinking, such as the use of this type of artillery. in an urban environment, you have to start raising starts raising questions. he would certainly use it in an open field, generally not in an urban area because the whole concept is to blow is to explode them above the true concentration so that they have a maximum spread and you need, oh, conceals for that. or why would russian truce required on their own positions? it makes no sense. so yeah, there's a heavy dosage of propaganda going on here. and the question is, what do you believe? generally you have to look at these things with a high degree of skepticism. and again, the reporting is based upon what other people told the reporter that reporter didn't see anything firsthand. there were no photographs. so you have to it raises all kinds of credibility issues that need to be seriously raised. and questions need to be answered before you have accepted mind book and synch

ambassador to russia, michael fall. director brennan, i do want to start with you. this is the unending tangle. how do you deal with a global bully who has nukes and who also holds the gas tank? do you take seriously russia's threats to use nuclear weapons, number one, and number two, should europe respond to their threats by saying the hell with your gas? >> well, first of all, i think we had the mindful that russia is a nuclear power. this is a lot of nuclear saber-rattling as a way to threaten and intimidate the west and europe. putin still wants to win this war with conventional military might and not going to escalate to a nuclear realm. as far as europe is concerned, the gas supplies to bulgaria and poland. and it's been very, very strong. and determined to. using these levers that he has particularly on the energy fronts, but i think based on my discussions with some europeans, they realize that the threat that europe poses not just to ukraine, to europe more broadly is very, very serious and this is the time for them to stay strong. >> same question to you,

michael, i personally believe it was a moment we saw will smith behave like a bully. i know a lot of people have strong opinions. i thought the slap itself was completely uncalled for and i want to be clear while we talk about family talk, it is utterly ridiculous to center this in the opinions of white folks. this is just about what happened there. the jumping off point should not be what might the white people think about it, it is this moment between those two men. i thought it was uncalled for. curious your thoughts, michael. >> look, i know again there are certain words you can say, you can't say to my wife or my children or my mother or my sisters without crossing a line. i don't know what that line is for will in that moment. i think that it was uncalled for and i understand what he did. both those things can be true, right? i understand exactly what happened and i don't think that he should have done it. like, i do things that in retrospect say i was wrong for doing that. but it doesn't mean that in the moment i didn't understand what was going on and that's w