that's almost the naÏve optimism and determination of young people to say wiebe refused to accept things as they are. we are seriously committed to changing them. we need that level of imagination. we need that level of ambition. another thing i've seen a lot of adults in our lives are really uncomfortable it's very natural as an adult to protect the young people in your life and say everything is going to be okay. and yet we know look at the climate we can't say that with any certainty. instead of trying to shut down those feelings and young peoplen the adults in our lives need to lead into them because they are such a gift and leaning into and really facing up the enormity of this crisis. when we travel into that anxiety and pain which is a reminder of our humanity and our empathy we can channel those feelings into action. we can do that their intergenerational exchange. >> i wonder, elizabeth, if you have had a similar experience or maybe not at all went to the recent summit and glasco. are you full of optimism and then kind of full of skepticism, hopefully not pessimism. i think it i