cardona: yes. rep. keller: whether it is proprietary, not-for-profit, public, if they are providing a good education we need to support them. if not, we need to hold them accountable. i want to keep the focus squarely on the students. i think we all want to do that. and, make sure that they have the tools to succeed. but, again, i think we can agree on that. we did it in our last meeting. i would like to -- i would like a commitment. i know that last time we talked we agreed on making sure everybody is held accountable in the same message. have you -- method. have you came up with any plans since our last discussion about how we will do that? sec. cardona: the strategies coming out of higher end with the scorecard, with our conversations, we are meeting with these folks regularly. private institution, public institutions, the message is the same. rep. keller: if that is the case and we care about the students then i think you should get a hold of the ftc and make sure they are not targeting proprie

cardona: yes. rep. keller: whether it is proprietary, not-for-profit, public, if they are providing a good education we need to support them. if not, we need to hold them accountable. i want to keep the focus squarely on the students. i think we all want to do that. and, make sure that they have the tools to succeed. but, again, i think we can agree on that. we did it in our last meeting. i would like to -- i would like a commitment. i know that last time we talked we agreed on making sure everybody is held accountable in the same message. have you -- method. have you came up with any plans since our last discussion about how we will do that? sec. cardona: the strategies coming out of higher end with the scorecard, with our conversations, we are meeting with these folks regularly. private institution, public institutions, the message is the same. rep. keller: if that is the case and we care about the students then i think you should get a hold of the ftc and make sure they are not targeting proprie

cardona: yes. if you allow me to follow up, i can share what we have done in the last year rep. -- harshbargerrep.: what role do you think parents have in determining appropriate curriculum for children? sec. cardona: parents are their child's first and most important teachers. we only play a supporting role. as a parent, it is critically important i am engaged and involved in the process. i want to be very clear about that. when we ask for states how they will use the money, stakeholder engagement was a requirement. we require states revived that. we have had conversations with more than 8400 parents in one year. we want to hear from them. it's not just talk. in terms of curriculum, i do believe parent engagement is critical. for the holistic experience of children including topics like curriculum. that is why we have boards of education set up, made up, in many cases, by parents. that is why they should have public comment. i support that. as a former assistant superintendent i value the input of

plus, i went to a school in connecticut to speak with secretary of education, miguel cardona. now he says if you took out a student loan, eventually you will have to pay up. our exclusive conversation, later this hour. i'm simone sanders, and i have something to say. a federal job binge in louisiana, blocked biden administration impractical lifting title 42. now title 42 is the public health order that immigration officers have been using during the pandemic to block asylum seekers from entering the united states. over what they are calling public concerns. now, the tropical pointed judges robert our summer haze. and he said in his ruling that the cdc did not allow sufficient time for public comment before last month's announcement that the order will be lifted. just a few hours after the ruling, the justice department announced plans to appeal. and white house press secretary kareen jean pierre said quote, the authority to set public health policy nationally should rest with the centers for disease control, not with the single district court. well here at the latest is nbc ne

and i encourage people just to watch because secretary cardona made the case that, while the $10,000 that brought this student loan cancellation has not yet been settled, that the administration has continued to forgive loans and that they haven't given up to 18 billion dollars for well over 750,000 growers in this country. and that is a number that i didn't know, so i learned a little something in that interview myself. >> well that is good. hey listen, two weeks in a row, i'm really enjoying this. if you want to make it three weeks in a row and come back next weekend, open invite my. friend >> alex, i think we should make this thing. so i should call my people call your. people >> it is the, thing i love. that thank you so much simone, and as we said you can hear more about her interview with secretary cardona. it is airing 4 pm eastern on msnbc. meantime, two years later after hundreds of thousands of demands for change, how america failed george floyd. and is still failing him, the authors of an important book, next. , th authors of an important book next upping their bread game.

secretary of education miguel cardona, sounding off on capitol hill, saying our teachers and students deserve to feel safe following this week's mass shooting that claimed the lives of 21 students and teachers in uvalde, texas. let's not normalize this. let's use every out of influence that we have to get something done to help prevent this from happening again. cardona also rejected calls to arm teachers as a way to prevent mass school shootings , describing the idea as a dangerous distraction. the solution of arming teachers, in my opinion is further disrespect. to a profession that's already beleaguered and not feeling the support of so many folks. lawmakers on both sides of the aisle admit there's no easy path forward in proposing legislation on gun safety. some democrats are frustrated with their gop colleagues over their resistance to push forward a bill on gun safety only country. in the world. in which our kids go to school, wondering whether they will survive the day. some gop lawmakers remain divided on the idea of universal background checks in the case of texas. hardening

and they started this, especially after the pandemic of cardona and they use the fear of the people in order to suspend a lot of independent accounts, you know, to suppress independent voices. and now what we are seeing is, and not only against today, but also against other independent voices. and this is happening to a collusion between the governments or the elite in the european union. and in the united states. we also social media giants in order to suspend the consumer reporting on the ukraine where for example, and tens of very important a cause, been suspended in the past weeks on, which are, for example, what precedent did the e decision to bon r, t and sputnik said kevorkian and did it, did it actually expose that the amount of control that european leaders have over what information their citizens have access to? actually it's quite dangerous precedent and it goes against the so called liberal values that these political leads preaching to the board. and they said they want to spread the values to the entire work and what they have done into your opinion, and it goes against

those are some of the questions facing the secretary of education miguel cardona today. gop members want to arm teachers or increase the presence of police officers in schools. >> when i was on our school board back in jasper, indiana, no one could get in our schools, not even a school board member. if you went up to the door, the system was locked. so i'm talking about a security system that makes a soft target hard. >> many decisions about school security are made at the local level, not in washington some on the left are wore eefd about militarizing schools. progressives resist adding officers because of concerns about arrests and police brutality. some on the left believe the presence of officers could trigger some students. democrats doubt that more officers are the answer. >> it's just nonsense to think that you will be able to put enough fire power in the schools to overcome these gunmen who are walking in with military-style assault weapons and body armor. >> there is also the issue of mental health and reinstating the assault weapons ban. >> we look at backgroun

miguel cardona told lawmakers that he was ashamed because he believes the country is desensitized to the murder of kids. >> after each of these massacres, we've held staff training, active shooter drills. we have numbered our windows for easier access for law enforcement. we have improved online early detection screening tools and secured our entrances and perimeter. that is no match for what we're up against. >> democratic senator chris murphy is working with gop members to forge a solution to the crisis. mitch mcconnell green lighted bipartisan talks. >> the nra is still out there building the political wall. we have to take them on. >> this is goldilocks, not too hot, not too cold but just right. it will take a bipartisan coalition of senators to cut a deal. however, the senate must get 60 yays to approve anything. students walked out of class today around the country to push for action in washington. those that survived shootings railed against lawmakers on capitol hill. >> so shame on the people that watch my friends and classmates day in school and continue not to act. so to th

i want to bring in democratic strategist and cnn political commentator maria cardona and david fromme. president biden said walter mondale was one of the people who helped him find his purpose, inspired him to be a senator after his wife and daughter died in that car crash so many years ago. he also talked about walter mondale's ability to unite people even when they disagreed. it feels like we're seeing the president preside over a memorial service for an american who was lost who reflected a different era in our politics. i t >> i think biden is at his best in these eulogies f. anybody does a compilation, the eulogy is probably the place to start. he brings such deep feeling. he's obviously a very warm-hearted man and the relationship with fritz mondale was beyond personal because of the grieves they both suffered, the loss in each case after child in the prime of life. the president made also an important institutional point. vice president mondale invented the modern vice presidency. before mondale, the vice presidency was a target of jokes. the vice presidency is not worth a buck

meantime secretary of education miguel cardona is rejecting calls to give weapons to teachers as a way to prevent mass scores shootings and is calling for tougher gun laws. let's not normalize this. let's use every out of influence that we have to get something done to help prevent this from happening again. democrats say these new negotiations on federal gun legislation will be at the top of the agenda when lawmakers come back from the memorial day holiday. us senator alex padilla of california is among the democrats on capitol hill now calling for tougher gun safety legislation. padilla spoke at a rally in washington, d c with other members of congress and several survivors of gun violence, he said the american people are now demanding strong action from federal lawmakers, not just talk. yes. we offer our condolences. yes we offer our thoughts and prayers. for thoughts and prayers alone is not enough to prevent future tragedies from happening. senator padilla says federal lawmakers must immediately passed laws requiring background checks for guns purchased online and at gun shows. he

so moments ago, education secretary miguel cardona says he's ashamed that america is becoming numb to the killing of school children. that during a hearing on capitol hill in which gop lawmakers made calls for better security protocols in schools and democrats went after gun laws. >> we could have prevented a lot of these incidents. >> mr. chairman, as i said before, we stand ready to work with you to examine the federal programs under our jurisdiction to help families and schools. >> there's now a bipartisan coalition of senators trying to forge a compromise to fight the prop. it's unclear in the plan would focus on guns or mental health. it comes as the senate leaves washington for a recess. sometimes issues lose energy over a break. the shooting may invigorate the process. >> we need at least a week to get through these tough issues. sometimes these issues outside of washington rather than when we're here. listen, i'm not going to negotiate forever. >> mitch mcconnell is blessing bipartisan talks. chuck schumer is willing to give senators ten days to craft a deal. gun control activ

. >> let's discuss with allison stewart who's a strategist and maria cardona is a cnn commentator at a strategist. alice, trump is going to make a final push for perdue tomorrow and no upcoming in-person events with perdue and how embarrassing would a kemp win be for trump? >> very. look. i'm from georgia. born and raised there. governor kemp did a tremendous job for the people of georgia and seeing poll numbers around 60% and focused on keeping jobs and keeping the economy open throughout covid and accountable to the people of georgia and why he is doing so well and pefr due focused on carrying donald trump's water and the last election and a rigged election. when you are a one-trick pony you need to make sure that the trick is correct. the election was free and fair. governor kemp is going to be in a good spot on tuesday because he is responsive to the people. >> kemp is pivoting, right? releasing ads attacking stacey abrams on covid politics in particular. >> i actually believe that you should tell people what they should do. >> abrams would have made us on california and new york

looking ahead to next week on symone, i will actually be sitting down with education secretary miguel cardona for the exclusive interview. -- i can't wait to bring that to you on peacock and on msnbc. be sure to check out my peacock show this tuesday, and mitchell right here on msnbc next saturday at 4 pm eastern to see it all. that's it for this edition of symone, i'm symone sanders i, will see you back here at 4 pm eastern. i will have new episodes on the nbc hub every monday and tuesday. i want to hand things over to my favorite friend reverend al sharpton. thank you symone. we have a great show today and politics nation with a great topics. but first we want to start with the breaking news out of buffalo new york. law enforcement sources say at least seven people have been killed in a mass shooting at supermarket tops. police say the shooter in the incident is in custody, into rifles have been recovered from the scene. including one with a racist term etched onto the weapon. police are investigating whether the suspect was motivated by white supremacist ideology, and may have livestreamed

maria cardona, i want to start with you. do aio think it's possible he could get the nomination? he does seem to be embracing the trump legacy more than any of the other voters, but he's focusing on it, seems to me, this false vote fraud thing as opposed to the economy, which really is something pennsylvanians, i think personally, are more affected by. >> this is the problem that republicans are having. i think all over the country, with their primaries, and especially primaries where trump is a player and a huge shadow, which is a lot of them. that they have to go so extreme to the right to support the big lie, to talk about how 2020 was a fraudulent election in order to grab the base of the republican party, which still genuflects at the altar of trump. i think that's going to be a huge problem for them. it's how they need to win the primary, but it's going to put them in a huge danger zone in order to win the general election. and i think josh shapiro has it exactly right. to make this about a contrast, i don't believe the majority of pennsylvania voters are extremists the way

india and the pool who visit a temple, a helicopter has been searching for the aircraft. cautious raj cardona is associate editor of the republican english daily. he joins us now live from come on, do what more can you tell us of about the sac croft? it's almost certain now that it has crashed. this is a, a recovery operation, isn't it? yes, thank you sir. thank you for having me. i can tell you that the rest of your operation that was being conducted by security personnel, especially in the file our new personnel has been halted for today because of the loss of the light and adverse weather and the nipple army spokesperson has said that they are risky ford and source and risky operation will be conducted again on the morning tomorrow. so we don't know so far. the feature of the patients are speed and they are covered sense. earlier in the day we had or that you know, some locals have, you know, hard something burning bad. they had seen something burning and accordingly the security person had mobilized. but then they also could not find out there. and, you know, helicopters are more relies,

plus, i went to a school in connecticut to speak with secretary of education, miguel cardona. now he says if you took out a student loan, eventually you will have to pay up. our exclusive conversation, later this hour. i'm simone sanders, and i have something to say. a federal job binge in

i want to bring in our cnn political commentators, maria cardona, she attended today with her daughter. also, former ted cruz communication's director. what was the mood in the crowd today? we were talking about this earlier today. everybody saying this is going to motivate democratic voters heading into the fall. were you seeing signs of that today? >> no question about that, jim. and i've talked to so many women both today as well as since the leaked opinion came out and they are pissed. there's really no other word for it. and they're going to change that anger into marches like you've seen today and then voting at the ballot box in november. because what cannot fathom is that we are at the precipice of the supreme court, this extreme supreme court, taking away a right of over 50% of the population that they have enjoyed, we have enjoyed for almost 50 years to be the ones who decides who happens with our bodies. with our families and with our reproductive futures. this decision, in essence, if it happens, will make us inferior to men, jim. you will have more rights in this country t

looking ahead to next week on symone, i will actually be sitting down with education secretary miguel cardona for the exclusive interview. -- i can't wait to bring that to you on peacock and on msnbc. be sure to check out my peacock show this tuesday, and mitchell right here on msnbc next saturday at 4 pm eastern to see it all. that's it for this edition of symone, i'm symone sanders i, will see you back here at 4 pm eastern. i will have new episodes on the nbc hub every monday and tuesday. i want to hand things over to my favorite friend reverend al sharpton. thank you symone. we have a great show today and politics nation with a great to

secretary of education miguel cardona rejected calls today to arm teachers as a way to prevent mass school shootings, describing the idea as a dangerous distraction. let's not normalize this. let's use every out of influence that we have to get something done to help prevent this from happening again. lawmakers on both sides of the aisle admit there is no easy path forward in proposing legislation on gun safety alex padilla is calling for action on gun safety legislation. padilla attended a grassroots rally today in d. c along with other members of congress. gun violence, survivors and gun safety supporters. they're demanding more be done in congress on gun safety in the wake of tuesday's mass shooting at the school, and you validate texas and the recent mass shooting in buffalo, new york, as well as orange county. yes. we offer our condolences. yes we offer our thoughts and prayers. thoughts and prayers alone is not enough to prevent future tragedies from happening is whas like and what we see here. is america rising up and saying enough is enough. just today. democrats first attempt at r

exclusive interview planned this week on symone, speaking this week with education secretary miguel cardona, and yes, we will get into the administration's plans for addressing student debt. check out my show this week on msnbc next saturday at 4 pm eastern to see it all. all right. you know, i usually wouldn't do a symone says today, but i know it's been a difficult last 24 hours with difficult conversations about the deadly last shooting in buffalo that targeted a black community. it got me thinking to five years ago, when i was on a panel in switzerland, where we talked about the threat of white supremacy in america and to domestic terrorism. here and around the globe. and yesterday, i was so struck that people were shocked. in my pinion, people aren't having uncomfortable conversations that lead to solutions. that's why people are still shocked. i'm thinking about folks that were at that grocery stores. fathers, mothers, sisters, brothers, cousins, aunts, uncles, people who will never go home again. and if we want to prevent what happened yesterday from happening again, we have got to h

s secretary of education miguel cardona, rejecting those proposals and is calling instead for tougher gun laws. let's not normalize this. let's use every out of influence that we have to get something done to help prevent this from happening again. democrats say these new negotiations on gun legislation will be at the top of the agenda when federal lawmakers returned from the memorial day holiday time is now 7 34 happening today of virtual town hall meeting held by san francisco police about the latest deadly police shooting. less thursday. san francisco police rushed to reports of a man with a knife attacking an unarmed man in the dogpatch neighborhood. it's still not clear what happened when the police arrived. but when the confrontation was over , both men involved had been shot and killed by police, and we expect more information during today's virtual town hall meeting that starts at three pm a memorial for a man who died while in police custody in alameda has been destroyed. family and friends of mario gonzalez created an alter to remember the 26 year old who died after three of

and be sure to catch simone sanders later today she sat with education secretary miguel cardona to discuss the biden administration's plan to address student loan debt relief. watch simone today at 4:00 eastern, right here on msnbc. and still to come, on the cross connection, we are going to dig into what is turning into the celebrity trial of the year? john the dump, versus his ex wife actress amber heard. but first, the nationwide baby formula crisis and the mothers in the children who are most at risk. we will talk to a leading pediatrician, coming up next. leadin pediatrician, coming up xtne pediatrician, coming up xtne right now, we're all feelin' the squeeze. but walmart's got your back with thousands of rollbacks so you get everything you need to keep your summer rollin'. because when you save money, you can live better. you know liberty mutual customizes your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need? oh, like how i customized this scarf? wow, first time? check out this backpack i made for marco. oh yeah? well, check out this tux. oh, nice. that'll go perfect with these. dud

. >> sandra: a look at the capitol this hour where education secretary cardona is testifying before a house panel. comes less than 48 hours after that massacre and as the gun debate is heating up in the country with congress and republicans now pushing for new school security measures while democrats are calling for tougher gun control laws. tony gonzalez, he represents uvalde, texas. joins us now, sir, welcome. our hearts are broken, we are grieving with those families, this is just awful, all of it. and we continue to have questions about what happened in the initial moments that that gunman arrived at that school. can you add anything to what we are learning at this hour? we are awaiting an update from officials on the ground there. the texas department of public safety director steve mccraw is quoted as saying it was 40 minutes to an hour that elapsed from when the time that ramos, the gunman opened fire on the school security officer to when the tactical team shot him. was there too much time that passed and could those police we have now seen in video outside the school have sto

host: and what has miguel cardona said about those issues? guest: he has been absolutely transparent about the reality that sometimes it does take intervention to ensure that we get the money where it needs to go, for those who deliberately block at the outset, but at the department of education is addressing the issues and can terms -- confirms that either the state or the localities have, they are freeing up that money and getting it to her students. host: if you want to ask her questions, we have divided the lines differently. if you are a student and perhaps want to give your perspective, (202) 748-8000. if you are an educator, (202) 748-8001. all others, (202) 748-8002. you can also text us your thoughts at (202) 748-8003. we are coming posted many schools finishing off the school year. how would you compare this year as far all the education, and what has to be made up because of the pandemic in previous years? guest: i've been traveling all over the country on what i call my joy, justice and excellent store to find out what students ar

host: miguel cardona testified before congress this week and he had a message to lawmakers about the texas school shooting. let's take a look. [video clip] >> i would failing as secretary of education if i did not tell you how ashamed i am that we are becoming sensitized to the murder of children. i would be feeling you if i did not use this platform to say that students and school leaders are scared. after columbine and sandy hook and parkland and many other massacres, we did our best to look parents in the eyes and assure them we would do everything to protect their babies. after each of these massacres, we have held staff trainings, active shooter drills, we have made our windows is year for law enforcement. we have secured our entrances and perimeters. that is no match for what we are up against. that is no match for -- and those 19. educators across the country have and would give their lives to protect children, but that is not enough. unless you have gone to a funeral of a child, you will never know. we can do better and we must do better. host: what do you think of that? he s

host: miguel cardona testified before congress this week and he had a message to lawmakers about the texas school shooting. let's take a look. [video clip] >> i would failing as secretary of education if i did not tell you how ashamed i am that we are becoming sensitized to the murder of children. i would be feeling you if i did not use this platform to say that students and school leaders are scared. after columbine and sandy hook and parkland and many other massacres, we did our best to look parents in the eyes and assure them we would do everything to protect their babies. after each of these massacres, we have held staff trainings, active shooter drills, we have made our windows is year for law enforcement. we have secured our entrances and perimeters. that is no match for what we are up against. that is no match for -- and those 19. educators across the country have and would give their lives to protect children, but that is not enough. unless you have gone to a funeral of a child, you will never know. we can do better and we must do better. host: what do you think of that? he s

last month you and secretary of education miguel cardona launched a joint department effort to expand school based health services, something we're back on in delaware, ensuring that the children have health care services and support necessary to build resilience and thrive. it's clear the budget demonstrates a shared commitment between the administration, congress [inaudible] mental health care on [inaudible] requires some basis. my question to you, how can congress partner with the administration to better provide resources and support for school, two schools? how can we provide the [inaudible] guidance of the federal funding available for school based physical, behavioral, health services including health, how medicaid can support the delivery of the services? just briefly, please. >> sure. president has asked us to walk and coordinate so we're not doing things in separate silos. so the department of education and hhs are working together to make sure children have access to the best services they can, oftentimes in schools, and we look forward to working with you because those sch

we can't forget department of education, miguel cardona and the white house helped draft the letter originally. so frerdz in other words federal government the biden administration helped draft a letter to call on the administration to military on parents. >> this was organized network of leftist organization. national school board. the union. listen, will, since the biden administration got into the white house, they have been trying to develop a plan to indoctrinate our children. and this is scary. as a school teacher in my 30 years of being a public school teacher and a lawyer, i have never seen this before. they want to basically brain watch our kids. with racist, leftist theory. and you saw what happened in virginia. even democrats rejected it. look who is in the governorship in virginia. because there was an uproar. i don't think people can really understand the magnitude of this. for them to put in a letter, military intervention. that is a threat to our country and by the way they need to go to a government class because they can't use the military in civilian affairs. ains. >> will: c

. >> and what has miguel cardona's said about these issues ? >> he has been absolutely transparent about the reality that sometimes it does take intervention to ensure that we get the money where it needs to go. for those who deliberately blocked at the outset but as the department of education is addressing the issues and concerns that either the state or localities have, they are freeing up that money and getting it to our students. >> that bethany frankel joining us until 8:30. we've divided the lines differently. if you are a student who wants to give your perspective 202-748-8000. if you're an educator 202-748-8000. >> in wyoming this past weekend were paying $4 a gal loon for gasoline -- a gallon for gasoline. doesn't make a federal investigation, doesn't take a federal investigation to figure out what's wrong here with energy in america. we know why prices are up -- supply and demand. very simple. demand for energy is up, and supply is not. supply is actually down. yet, after a year of high prices, estimates still refuse to admit it, ign