congresswoman cheney is such a person. [applause] i am hopeful because of the dedicated public service working despite threats and intimidation, for performing their tasks safely, secretary benson and miss moss are such examples, as are the election workers of maricopa county, and throughout arizona. likewise operating the basic machinery of our democratic republic. above all, i remain hopeful because of the quiet courage demonstrated by fellow americans carrying on word against crippling addiction, parenting children with special needs, facing terminal illness. during the closing months of 2020 in the beginning of 2021, through the election and its likely aftermath, our daughter was gravely ill. she had been a strong athlete in school, a volleyball and trakstar. she had a unique method of preparation, pursing her lips, breathing expansively and deeply, preparing herself for the challenge ahead. in an end-of-life visit, after 34 days of being prohibited from seeing her, her son lorenzo, our good family friend dax jones, we

somebody in the cheney family. despite that name, if he can't win here, then people are really going to be questioning his power even more. i mean, this is a time obviously he had losses in georgia. he's had three governor's candidates that he's backed and put some money behind, and has seen losses. if he can't get out cheney, which a lot of the republicans right now have rejected because she continues to criticize the former president, that's going to be a big problem for him, and so it kind of feels like he's regrouping in wyoming to say this is the most important race, because perhaps that should be the place where he should be most successful. and yet, if we come to august and cheney is still standing, man, that's going to be such a huge hit. >> it would nay palm his power in terms of the party. look. i think you made a great point. wyoming is different than georgia. cheney is different than kemp. look at what happened in georgia. i want to pull up the two top three kind of candidates where trump backed the oth

representative cheney, her family, well respected, obviously, vice president cheney from wyoming. as i said before i would never bet against a cheney in wyoming. mostly because there's a proven record. there's proven facts on this one. the rally was great. it was a good turnout for casper. but that doesn't define the election. that doesn't define the outcome of what we're going to see at the polls come august. >> i do want to ask you about the approach that she's taken. we saw in georgia, for instance, governor kemp, he kind of ignored trump. it worked for him. did cheney take the right approach here? or was it a different one? >> well, her campaign, if you look at her campaign, she's not focusing on president trump. she's focusing on her job. she's focusing what it means to be republican. we're the party of reagan. we're the party of lincoln. we're the party of the constitution and that's what representative cheney's campaign is focusing on. she absolutely does not shy away from the question regarding january 6 and president trump. it's definitely not the sole focus of the campai

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a lot of them mention liz cheney without even being prompted. they will say they like the way that she has talked about the threat to democracy, that they wish that democrats, including biden, would actually borrow some of her language so that will be interesting to see, not just in her primary and whether or not she is able to stay into the house also in the future of 2024, even in liz cheney loses her seat. she will not go anywhere silently into the nate. >> i think there is a big question of what happens with trump's endorsements, some have won. some have lost. i do want to take a moment to reflect on another sort of political dynasty that may have died out this past week. the bush legacy. there is no bush running for office. no bush in office. george p. bush losing badly to texas attorney general ken paxton. this is kind of an end of an era-type of situation here. >> yeah. >> maybe affect. ing everybody in office for the first time in decades. gorge p. bush made a bet he can accommodate trumpism and trump, himself. he went so far to create -

donald trump -- list cheney in her own backyard of wyoming last night. listen to what he said in her backyard. >> there is no -- america who has thrown in her lot with the radical left more than liz cheney. terrible. she has gone crazy. now i get it. i've been hearing all the stories for years. now i get it. she's gone totally crazy. that is why in two months from now the people of wyoming are going to tell her liz, you are fired. get out of here. get out of here. >> trump's attempt to oust cheney columns as poll political big -- political poll shows trailing by 30 points in the trump -- primary. how do you see liz cheney bid for reelection going in the next couple of months? what are her chances of winning with these kinds of attacks? >> reverend, certainly liz cheney isn't the underdog. wyoming is a conservative state. trump is popular in wyoming and we know that cheney is his number one target. it will tell you this. donald trump is anxious and nervous. he got clobbered last week in alabama and georgia. mitch mcconnell's candidate beat his candidate i

and we know that liz cheney is his number one target. but i will tell you this. donald trump is very anxious and nervous. he got clobbered last week in alabama and georgia. mitch mcconnell's candidate beat his candidate, in alabama, and in georgia, of course, two of his big targets, governor kemp and the secretary of state, both were comfortably supported in their republican primaries. so trump is now moving on, because he's wounded. he is suffering some wounds, not just in alabama and georgia but also in north carolina, with representative cawthorn, so trump is really going all in now, making sure liz cheney gets defeated. but the trend in the republican primary is not good for donald trump right now so maybe liz cheney does have a chance to survive. >> adrian, just hours after the mass shooting at robb elementary school in uvalde, texas, conspiracy theorists started spreading rumors that the attack was a false flag operation. how dangerous is it that posts from the friends of online communities are making the public fear? what can be done to rein in the misinfo

liz cheney is the only republican willing to put it all on the line because of conviction. you didn't have a jury that was willing to do that. when you look at this case and it's not a trial. it's public hearings for the purpose of educating the public, how do you sort of analyze this reporting on her focus on trump? >> i think in a lot of ways donald trump is -- has to be the focus because he is both a cult leader and a bully, and i think that congressman cheney is exactly right. if you cut off the fish's head, then, you know, the rest of the fish just wastes away. and you know, you have all of those rioters who were saying on the day of on video that we are following donald trump's orders. you have all these witnesses. you have all these defendants whose defense is i was just following my dear leader, donald trump. so yes, in very many ways january 6th was all about donald trump, and i think what these hearings really need to focus on in my view is less about the security breaches. i think the quote that, you know, the capitol didn't attack itself is very well put. the se

and liz cheney? these righteous republicans now? well, we might have the answer. breitbart isng reporting that is cheney's reelection campaign is working with a group called people first. their website indicates it's affiliated with far lefth democrat organizations such as president biden's as campaign arm planned parenthood and black lives matter. harriet hagaman is running to unseat liz cheney in wyoming and she joins us now. harriet, good to see you. i know the primaries coming up. the open primary coming up c in august, but liz cheney really is she's billed as thee principled republican .y. only a handful of them left,e' obviously, and she's passionate abouts january six and investigating that .th are you are surprised then she hasn't been more vocal about left wing protests that seem to be getting out of hand againstic supreme court justices?es >> well, laura , it's wonderfull to see t you again to be backnk to see t you again to be backnk thank you . i have beeni hav been stunned at her silence when you think l about what has actually happened in the lastee

trump was speaking at a rally for cheney's primary challenger. mr. trump: liz cheney hates the voters of the republican party and she has for longer than you would know. wyoming deserves a congresswoman who stands up for you and your values, not one who spends all of her time putting you down, going after your president in the most vicious way possible. geoff: cheney has been a critic of trump, refuting his lies about a stolen 2020 election, and holding him accountable for helping incite the january 6 attack on the u.s. capitol. the republican primary for wyoming's house seat is yet another test of donald trump's influence over the gop, after some of his high profile endorsents have failed. still to come on "pbs news weekend"... after the horrific events in uvalde, texas, a psychologist offers advice on how to talk to children about school shootings. and golden state warriors head coach steve kerr opens up about losing his father and how the experience made him a vocal advocate for gun control. ♪ >> this is "pbs news weekend" from weta studios in w

"the new york times" author says he could not understand why cheney kept criticizing trump. mcconnell said the congresswoman signed her own death warrant. in his mind she was committing a cardinal sin. when you're in leadership, the last thing you want to want is to be a liability for members. his counterparts, he said, were a mess. alex and jonathan are here, and their book is available today "this will not pass". jonathan, that's one of the things you cover in the book. that's an example. one of the vignettes of the get set, one of the big topics of the book, the tensions in the republican party over the trump question. >> as the months go on in 2021, we chronicle in this book, john, that mcconnell and cheney begin a sort of allies in january and february of 2021. they're appalled by donald trump's conduct. they're infuriated about his inciting the mob that stormed the capitol, but cheney won't drop it. and she won't stop talking about donald trump, and mcconnell wants to turn attention to the elections. and mcconnell glances over at the house and sees cheney talking about

in this race, cheney is running against trump and specifically, against the big lie. that's why this would be so interesting to see how republican voters respond. >> and absolutely will. ryan, thanks so much for your reporting tonight. "outfront" next, she was a trailblazer in the kitchen, so far beyond. we're going to preview "julia" which premiers tonight on cnn. i've always been into health, and wellness, and fitness... i tried everything with diet and exercise, and nothing worked. there was justst kinda this stubborn area on my stomach. but coolsculpting worked for me! coolsculpting targets, freezes and eliminates treated fat for good. no needles, no incisions. discuss coolsculpting with your provider. some common side effects include temporary numbness, discomfort and swelling. you've come this far... coolsculpting takes you further. visit coolsculpting.com what do you think healthier looks like? cvs can help you support your nutrition, sleep, immune system, energy ...even skin. so healthier can look a lot like...you. cvs. healthier happens together. only two thi

so much so liz cheney was reporting her colleagues. adam schiff took a text message i toured to the white house or chief of, changer, alternate presented in a falsehood to the american people. their recording colleagues they are lying tool people. all because they're driven by this animosity towards president trump who i think was the best president we had certainly in our lifetimes and doing what he said he was going to do i don't know she is the one striving or who is driving it. i know we have yet to see the subpoena they've yet to serve up or we get it will take a look at it gotta be concerned about a committee that operates the way this committeees does. and the crazy activity they have engaged in. you just to be real concerned. maria: let me just say we have not heard a word out of liz cheney on inflation. not heard a word on liz cheney on the wide open border. some of these issues around joe biden's behavior has some of your colleagues talking about impeachment. spoke with congressman greg murphy on foxbusiness last week on a mo

the brian kemp model is important in georgia, because it's not the liz cheney model. brian kemp never publicly confronted donald trump. he just bit his tongue and ignored trump. didn't bait the bear if you will. as we capture in our book, there's three models basically now for the gop. the liz cheney model. open war with donald trump, take him on, denounce him as unfit for office. there's the mcconnell model. which is what brian kemp did, go silent. hope he fades away. then, there's the kevin mccarthy model, which we chronicle at great length in the book, jon, you go back to trump's open arms and you do a full embrace of the trump himself and trump version of to gop that's basically -- >> that showed he was in private at a much different tone. mccarthy, though, he was out -- he spoke at the rally last night in casper via taped message. >> he got boos. >> he got booed. >> because people heard the audiotapes from our book which does capture the really kevin mccarthy, who like most gop members of congress wants to move on from trump, believes he's basically a headache fo

i picked up the phone it was that deep voice of dick cheney said john got us into some trouble. i said oh? [laughter] he said yes the presidents going to europe and is not going to go to the tv correspondents dinner. so i've got to go me funny for ten minutes. and then he i don't do funny. [laughter] but the truth is, he does. my colleague matthew scalia and i sat down and hurriedly put together a speech for him. i was for the next night i think it was buried and he did a great job. he was very good at that. >> i went to ask this question i don't know the answers but the way the correspondent center works as a usually is a lead writer who is it funny speech writer. but everybody else can submit jokes to that person and they will take some. i don't spend a lot of time on the page or two of jokes and given to john who is our funny speech writer. he's very nice about it would maybe choose one. [laughter] do you have any they were accepted? >> can't remember think maybe. so david redden tyler wren that speech writing process for that product can't remember. there was sort of this pr

it shaped liz cheney since then. you heard senator graham. he was not alone. a lot of lawmakers heard trump mention cheney by name and were appalled that he would do that before a crowd that turned out to be a mob. it put people's lives in jeo jeopardy. she has to have security service because of the threats against her as we detail in the book. a lot of the climate that the gop has fostered today, you can really trace back to that speech trump game the ve the morning o january 6. a lot of people in the old guard thought that that would be the tri trigger. finally, it would be okay to walk away from trump. the party would have had enough. it turns out that those leaders were wrong. they didn't get their votes. they were not tired of trump. they are still happily in his embrace anderson, it was moment af -- moments after that liz cheney says we need to impeach the son of a bitch. she was surprised to find how few were willing to join her. >> fascinating reporting. thank you. >>> a massive new aid package for ukraine features money for weapons, aid and medicine.

he created a sense of revenge. >> he created a sense of revenge against liz cheney. his brand is revenge. that's all that it is now. that's what trump is. they're out there running primaries against kemp for what they did in pennsylvania, overturn the actual results of an election administered by all republican statewide election officials. what is your sense of how much of this evidence the committee has of the plot to overturn the results out in the specific state, jackie? >> yeah, nicole. you know, i think just to make it clear to our viewers because i think sometimes people get a little bit confused and it can be confusing, but you know, the mission of the congressional committee that's investigating january 6th is truly a legislative purpose. they have to be careful not to appear too prosecutorial and look like they're collecting evidence to build a criminal case that is not the origins of the committee nor their ultimate responsibility and all they can do is really lay out the facts and gather all of this evidence and show it in a cohesive way to the department

[laughter] dick cheney is trying to defend torture. yeah, well, i released the memos that shows that information we got from our practices. you can't defend torture. it's like me robbing a bank and then saying yes, your honor, i robbed a bank, but look at all these bills that i paid. [laughter] [applause] and finally, so they gave you grief about the dog, the animal rights people. why didn't he get a rescue dog? look, the men has to -- man has to rescue back country that has been abused by the previous owner. [laughter] thank you all very much. good night. [applause] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2022] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] announcer: taking a look back and watching tonight's 2022 white house correspondents' association live on c-span. we expect the live portion of the evening to begin shortly. this is the first time the event has been held since the pandemic started. it has been canceled before in 193

well kinzinger and cheney might be, right their influence in their party has diminished. do republicans have to address or valve minute any of this? >> well, that's exactly, right there is a very small section of the republican party willing to talk about this, and they ought to think that people were talking about trumpism, and talking about january 6th, and the ones who think that something is wrong in their own party who are at the very least tolerating, if not actively encouraging versions of white supremacy, and things like that. i think that you have not heard of people from the party, nor president trump, who is the likely front runner for their nomination 2024, where the congressional leaders. that speaks to the state of affairs right now on the right. you have president biden go there tomorrow, and the question will be how does he address this. obviously, he's always been an empathetic political figure, he will talk about the tragedy and the loss, and probably related to his own loss and his own family, which he tends to do. the question a lot of people on the le

maria: well, i mean, is liz cheney spearheading this? if was she the one who was leading the unfortunate r effort to -- the effort to haul you in? >> you know, i don't know. i do know i actually in some ways feel bad for these people who become so consumed with their hatred for president trump that you can almost just sense the bitterness that they have of. so much so that liz cheney was actually recording her colleagues. adam schiff took a text message that i had forwarded to the white house chief of staff, changed it, altered it, presented it in a false way to the american people. so they're reporting colleagues, they're lying to people all because they're driven by this animosity towards president trump who i think was the best president we have had in our, certainly in our lifetimes in doing what he said he would do. i don't know if she's the one driving it or who's driving it. all i know is they have yet to serve the subpoena. when we get it, we'll take a look at it, but you've got to be concerned about a committee that operates the

the morning of 9/11, i was sitting with vice president cheney. and the reason i was with him, was that he had a speech coming up that friday. and the arrangement we always had was, i'm not going to go in and say, you have a speech on friday. what do you want to say? i'm going to come in and say, you have a speech on friday. here's what i recommend. here's something. and then, you can get the gears turning and something to react to. because, they have so many other things going on. oh, i've got to givve a foreign policy speech in chicago. no, don't do that to them. bring them something. >> yeah, go ahead. >> no, go ahead. >> i was going to, say that sounds really familiar to me. i had to write a speech that president obama gave. it was a speech at morehead college, which was a historically black college in atlanta. i remember walking into the oval office, and my boss, said kyle has some ideas for ways to tailor the morehouse crowd. there is a picture, at the time, telling me what i thought i should say. he looks at me, as the first black president

suspect another victim, celeste ng cheney. she was a mother, a sister and cancer survivor. her family says they found out about her death through a social media video showing the gunman shooting cheney twice. cheney sister says they were together at the store at the time when the shooting happened. >> but i thought she's still was behind. when i got to the back because everybody's time you go to the coolest, which is in the back to news 4. and they opened the back door city-state couple. go out the back to us. we are went%out the back door who was a part of people looking for must step. >> cheney had just celebrated her birthday last week. oakland mayor libby schaff, among the many responding to the shooting, she tweeting tweeted today it mark a tragic new low and our country's a shameful history of racism and gun violence. libby schaff went on to say, quote, we must stop making these weapons of war accessible to anyone with a credit card and internet connection. more importantly, we must educate and love each other and practice radical inclusivity every day until we rid ou

i think there's a way for people to zag that is not liz cheney, and we just haven't seen people try it. >> that's a great point,, tim miller,, trip gabriel,, appreciate that. still to come, the january six committee wants to hear from's three more republican congress members and its investigation, an alleged effort to get a pardon from the president for oath keepers threatening to protect ronny jackson, while the events were unfolding, we're gonna go over the new information we got for those letters, just ahead. on january 6th 2021, the u. s. marine corps veteran and retired and ypg out of sir thomas webster showed up to storm the capitol. he was wearing a red and white jacket carried a metal flagpole, and your post officers at the metropolitan police department who are behind the barricades yearling at them using graphic language calling the police officers commies, and take off their protective gear. we're gonna show you body cam video of the entire interaction but for someone to walk through what happened because it all moves very quickly. according to complain from the department o

but yesterdy they rejected that request >>> in the aftermath of the deadly shooting in buffalo, liz cheney say accusing gop house members of enabling white supremacy and anti-semitism. law enforcement officials say the 18-year-old shooting suspect wrote and shared a manifesto online, promoting the idea of the great replacement there ritherey >> reporter: it has its roots in prance, popularized by a writer. he pushes lies about non-white immigrants wanting to make non-white-europeans extinct. it's a tenet of white supremacist ideology it's got a few main elements, including rhetoric about invasion by people of color, lies about voter replacement and anti-semitism. it's been referenced a lot, like at charlottesville and these white supremist lies influence others like 51 dead at a new zealand mosque 23 dead at a walmart in el paso or just this weekend in buffalo. ten people dead, killed because they were black. a theory once seen as fringe now alluded to in mainstream conservative circles like fox news. >> democrats plan to change the population of the country. >> reporter: to one of the top

the third ranking house republican, replacing cheney. she is unhappy that people remembered her campaign committee ran facebook bands, parroting replacement theory last fall, warning of a permanent election insurrection. she tweeted the statement saying it was tragic, and a attacking the media for saying,, it is an advocate for a racist position. right after that, she wrote, democrats desperately want wide open borders, and mass access for illegal slowing them to vote. that is replacement theory. the dress down version, taking out the trigger words, but is it doubled on using great replacements to appear for politics. then, fox news, to mention the theory that they had been promoting, especially on prime time. instead, the network's most watched offender, tucker carlson, named who he thinks are the real victims of buffalo massacre. his perpetual victim viewers. >>? , what is hate speech? hate speech is speech that politicians hate. you are not allowed to express your political views out loud. that is what they're telling you. >> with me,

i think there's a way for people to zag that is not liz cheney, and we just haven't seen people try it. >> that's a great point,, tim miller,, trip gabriel,, appreciate that. still to come, the january six committee wants to hear from's three more republican congress members and its investigation, an alleged effort to get a pardon from the president for oath keepers threatening to protect ronny jackson, while the events were unfolding, we're gonna go over the new information we got for those letters, just ahead. letters, just ahead. i have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. now, there's skyrizi. ♪ things are getting clearer, i feel free ♪ ♪ to bare my skin ♪ ♪ yeah, that's all me ♪ ♪ nothing and me go hand in hand ♪ ♪ nothing on my skin, that's my new plan ♪ ♪ nothing is everything ♪ achieve clearer with skyrizi. 3 out of 4 people achieved 90% clearer skin at 4 months. of those, nearly 9 out 10 sustained it through 1 year. and skyrizi is 4 doses a year, after 2 starter doses. ♪ i see nothing in a different way ♪ ♪ it's my moment so i just gotta say ♪ â

so what exactly is congresswoman cheney talking about? well, you can look at other things from her caucus that she has criticized, such as comments from members of her party that mesh rather seamlessly with the racist false white replacement theory. >> you know what the democrats are up to here. they want open borders. this is exactly that strategy. they want to replace the american electorate. >> for many americans, what seems to be happening or what they believe right now is happening is what appears to them is we're replacing national-born american, native-born americans to permanently transform the political landscape of this nation. >> this administration wants complete open borders. you have to ask why. do they really want to remake the demographics of america to insure they stay in power forever? >> not to mention this facebook ad from cheney's replacement in the republican leadership, congresswoman elice stefanik of new york. or congressman paul gosar or marjorie taylor greene who spoke at a white supremacist conference where that

liz cheney very notoriously months and months ago didn't exactly rule that out. do we know anything more now? >> well, we don't know what a final decision is going to be on that. we knew that liz cheney more than any other member on the committee has been pushing a very aggressive tact against the former president and others on the committee, stephanie murphy, and others as well have moved the topic to other areas as well, say security at the capitol, various legislative reforms. cheney has focused the attention back on trump and what he did on that day and the days leading up to it. [ no audio ] a number of figures had firsthand testimony of what trump was doing, of what mike pence was doing. there still seem to be some questions lingering on who was going to willingly come in of the witnesses they want and how they should focus their final few weeks of the hearings. >> what are you focusing on in the final few weeks before the hearings start? >> the big question on the table here in congress is whether these five members of the republican party will come in thi

he is the former head of russia analysis at the cia and a former advisor to vice president dick cheney. >> we are talking more and more openly about weakening russia's military, marginalizingussia' role, that russia's strategic defeat. th is a shift tt i thinis fraughwith danger, the escalation into direct u.s. -russian military conflict. amy: all that and more, coming up. welcome to democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. a majority of supreme court justices are prepared to overturn abortion rights according to a lead to supreme court draft opinion published by politico. the document is an internally circulated majority draft opinion written by justice samuel alito that would strike down roe v. wade entirely. the landmark 1973 ruling that legalized abortion nationwide. in the draft, alito moves to overturn planned parenthood v. casey, the 1992 decision that upheld roe v. wade. the draft majority opinion reads -- "roe was egregiously wrong from the start. we hold that roe and casey must be overruled. it is time to heed the constitution and return th

cheney, once the third more powerful republican in the, house was on the phone with mccarthy when he contemplated asking trump to resign, lost her position of party leadership. the republican national committee even censored cheney and kinzinger for quote, participating in a democrat-led persecution of ordinary citizens engaged in legitimate political discourse. the kind of political discourse where you take a weapon to a cops head and bang it repeatedly. now, to their credit, seriously to their credit, cheney and kinzinger who's politics i do not like at all, were not deterred. and the bipartisan committee has remained determined, and united and its purpose. in the face of republican stonewalling, stonewalling from trump's allies, invasions, we have the situation now where less than a month before the committee is said to go to public hearings, there is one last investigation. that is to find out with their colleagues know. and their colleagues will not tell them. so they are going to do the unprecedented thing to issue subpoenas to the republican obstructionists including kevin mcc

look what happened to liz cheney. liz cheney's number in the republican primary voters are matched with joe biden's number in the primary voters. you know, people liking zinger decide not to run. all of these folks. there is no room left in this. i think it's very important for us to sort of stop with this sort of dynamic of trump versus non trump, parts of the party. the party has become and moved past donald trump. it does if donald trump gave electricity to frankenstein. the monster woke up. and the monster, now, is running a way past donald trump and going down the road. and it's on its own. and that's the republican primary. that's the republican base, today. it has been related to donald trump. but, it is completely a monster of its own now. and i don't think anyone in washington, or any republican leader can control it. and that is what i think republicans are most worried about. >> okay, but here's the thing, juanita, we said the same thing about donald trump in 2016. he is too far out there. democrat said, br

people like liz cheney in the barth, it seems, and so these hearings are a chance for her to roll out the evidence that she has found on this committee and try to run back some segment of the party and i do think she thinks that a strong republican party is necessary for american democracy to be successful and we're even hearing democrats say that, pelosiization said that recently so there are a lot of people who even on the democratic side they are rooting for liz cheney to bring back the party from trump if that can be done. >> yeah, and i mean i think there are people, you know, we know from your colleagues' tapes, we mow mitch mcconnell and kevin mccarthy see it the same way but won't say it out loud. it's an incredible moment in this, kneel, luke, eugene, thank you so much for starting us off this hour. >>> when we come back, we'll turn back to last night's primary elections and how they underscore what we've been talking about how extreme and potentially dangerous the republican party is getting in service to the ex-president's lie about the 2020 election. our friend, matthew do

a leaked tape of him telling cheney he would ask trump to resign. cheney saying it was not a decision that was taken light and i, and they have incredibly important information about the insurrection. here's congressman biggs on his subpoena. >> will you comply with the subpoena? >> i think this is an illegitimate committee. >> does that mean you don't comply with the subpoena? >> i haven't even seen the subpoena. you have. doesn't that indicate something to you? indicates a hell of a lot to me. >> have you thought about submitting evidence to your constituents and to the public that exonerate you from the claims the committee staked against you? >> you're asking me to submit to prove a negative. >> and so we heard that word legitimate again, but trump's own family cooperated with interviews. here's how it's playing out on right-wing tv network. >> the his tir ya around the january 6th protests continues reaching new levels of insanity among the radical left. it's a story that's been thoroughly debunked repeat. >> i yet democrats in the mainstream m

talking about congresswoman liz cheney. she has been amazing. she is a conservative republican from one of the most prominent families in the republican and decided she would be the republican who was foremost in saying, the 2020 election was not stolen, it was not decided illegally. it was won by joe biden. what happened on january 6 at the capital was wrong and dangerous for democracy, and needs to be investigated. those responsible need to be held to account. that is a republican saying that. that is noteworthy. there is an important undercurrent to what the caller was talking about, which is, this is the silver lining in this dark cloud of the contested 2020 election and january 6 violence. the american institution held, let's remember that. the courts have adjudicated the old claims about the 2020 election over and over again, and have made decisions that up -- that have upheld the outcome. in the end, despite what happened on january 6, the house and senate did validate and confirm the results of the 2020 election. the courts are, the just

some members of your own party quoting liz cheney. liz cheney said that house republicans leadership has enabled white nationalism, white supremacy, and anti-semitism history. what begins with words in's in far worse. republican leaders must renounce and reject these views and those who hold them. guest: i think republican leaders have denounced the use of rights of premises him. -- of right supremacy. i totally disagree. i do not think anyone in our conference has done anything but condone unnecessary violence, racism, any type of wrong. i fundamentally disagree with what liz said. there is no room for racism in america. host: james comer is our guest. we welcome your calls and comments. (202) 748-8000 is the line for democrats. (202) 748-8001 for republicans. all others, (202) 748-8002. there is a historian roll call about a meeting with kevin mccarthy and business leaders, house republicans make case for november victory at a roundtable on inflation. inflation affecting every american. what role will your party do differently on th

liz cheney came out today and said it very clearly. she said that our party, the republican party, has been propagating notions that have been hijacked by these violent extremists as frank notes to perpetuate these attacks. it is real. it is happening. but we can't get to the root of it unless we acknowledge it. you mentioned fbi director chris wray. i've had conversations with him in the situation room and at vhs about this problem when we saw domestic terrorism on the rise. i'll mention three b's how to address this. if it was a foreign terrorist threat, that would be billions, bureaucracy, and belief. we would spend blts of dollars if it was a foreign terrorist threat. we would totally reorient the federal bureaucracy to handle it, but ultimately, we wouldn't be able to get to the core of it unless we focused on countermessaging, focused on preventing people from radicalizing in the first place. that's what this comes down to. that's what we were warning about years ago when during the trump administration we told the white house do

the others who lost their lives, geraldine tally, 62, sela cheney, 65 and marcus d. morrison, 52, all innocent people just going to the store on a weekend. with me now is the governor of new york, kathy hochul who was born in buffalo and represented the area for years. governor hochul, thank you for being here. i can't imagine how much pain in community is in. as a buffalo native, talk about what the aftermath looks like for the people of your home city. >> thank you for showing the pictures of these people. they are not just a number ten, they are step people with personalities and lives that are lost forever. this is my hometown. it's part of my community. i live only 10 or 12 minutes from that,neighborhood. i go back to buffalo all the time. it is still my home so these are my neighbors and this is deeply personal. people are just searing with pain. i went in my elevator, i live in a very diverse building, black, white, doesn't matter the color, people falling into my arms weeping. such anguish in this community right now, and we need to stop talking about how we

. >> certainly is, and about liz cheney too. the two of them have a conversation at one point last year where she basically tells him, that is just not going to work. you can't just sort of avert your gaze from donald trump. if you're going to take on donald trump, get rid of donald trump, you have to take on donald trump and get rid of donald trump. so mcconnell's response at that point was, basically, i don't need any more lectures from you on how to deal with trump. the big mcconnell bet we outline in the book, a central part of the narrative is that after january 6th, he sees trump like many people, many democrats and more republicans than will say so in public, he sees trump as a threat to the american democracy and to the republican party. but once that immediate moment of most dire peril passes, he decides that the way he's going to try to deal with trump is to ignore him and trust that the president, as mcconnell said to a number of people, lose altitude over time, just because people will kind of move on and look to the

sell asteen cheney was a grandmother of six. she survived breast cancer and brain aneurysms before that. a fighter, says her grandson who tells us there was never a dull moment with her. she was always laughing, he said. spreading joy and love. roberta drury was only 32. her brother says she dedicated much of her time to helping him with his leukemia treatment and helping her family at the local restaurant they owned. she said she was a happy person who always tried to do the right thing. and 67-year-old heyward patterson was a taxi driver, a deacon at his church, his nephew says he took pride in helping people. someone who would give someone a free ride if they needed one. someone with a big heart. mr. patterson was shot can killed helping a passenger outside the supermarket. joining us now, his close friend and a fellow church deacon, lenny lane. i appreciate you being with us. i'm so sorry for your loss and that we're talking under these circumstances. what do you want people to know about deacon heyward patterson? >> deacon

then we had liz cheney tweeting the leadership has enabled white nationalism, white supremacy, anti-semitism, history taught us what begins with words end in worse. leaders must reject those views. how problematic getting mainstreamed on far right. you want to talk about cultural solutions to this, these are folks with very large mega phones flirting at the onen end of the spectrum. >> absolutely. there are two really dangerous things about it. the first is what you just mentioned. it's mainstreaming and legitimizing the idea there's some kind of blot out there. some kind of nefarious plot by democrats in this case of the tucker carlson illusion to it, to replace americans with voters that would be more compliant by importing them through immigration. in the buffalo case, it's clear this teen was radicalized not through mainstream media, but in online spaces. but it make it is less likely that the adults around him, we have a guide for parents and caregivers online. to warn them about online radicalization and the number one bullet point is about the great replacement theory. how less likely

when i have a family of celestine cheney says she was a survivor, never imagining the scenario that would ultimately take her life. my sister survived breast cancer. and three aneurysm surgeries. to go to the grocery store. to get killed. cheney was one of 10 people killed on saturday after investigators say 18 year old peten genderen targeted top supermarket in buffalo and started shooting as many black s possible. mom, what's what's it like?ground , he went and reloaded. and he shot my mom again. president biden and the first lady traveled to buffalo tuesday morning to meet with the victim's families and first responders. the president denouncing the massacre as terrorism motivated by hateful ideology. evil will not win. i promise you hate will not prevail. in white supremacy will not have the last word. the violence, also triggering yet another debate on gun control. authorities say gender and bought his gun in new york legally purchase reportedly taking place months after state police say they investigated him in june. for making a threat about committing a murder suicide. he was neve