the blame lands at dan patrick, and particularly dan patrick. he's the most powerful political leader in the state. and yet, did nothing. >> there was a policy fork in the road, to a point after that santa fe killing, and it wasn't like they did nothing. they did do something. i think, am i right that it's $600 million in the total school public safety? 100 million marked specifically for hardening schools. again, the sort of good guy with a gun, swat team, involved in the training. like, there was a choice to do something. just, i just wonder if there is going to be a reckoning with the failure. >> there won't be a reckoning. there will be a reckoning. it's not fair -- there was a recent audit, by the way. i mean, dan patrick ran into fox news after santa fe, and said we need to harden the targets. first of all, that is the wrong way to go. you don't harden the targets. these are schools. these are places of learning. we need safety. we need resource officers. we need counselors. we need to have a safe environment for those children. but even i

the political leaders that run this plate, i'm talking about dan patrick, let me be very clear, dan patrick, the lieutenant governor, has worked aggressively to block even the slightest suggestion of gun laws in the state. i know from talking to legislators, democrats proposed reasonable gun laws, and republicans were lining up behind it, until they heard from dan patrick, who said you stop this, or i'm going to get even with you. and they're afraid of him. the problem in texas is dan patrick, and he's got to go. >> what about buying ammunition? this shooter was said to have bought more than a thousand rounds of ammunition. should there be a flag in the system when somebody tries to buy that much ammunition? >> i think there's no question about it. it's all in the same piece. here you have an 18-year-old kid, who, by the way, had a nickname in social media, school shooter. he turns 18, buys two ar-15s and 1600 rounds of ammunition, and nobody says or does a thing and doesn't care. and then we wake up the next day and find out that 20 children have lost their lives. it's outrageous. when i t

dan patrick will join us in moments. but first we go straight to uvalde texas where lieutenant chris with the department of public safety is standing by. lieutenant, there's one witness i know that you desperately want to speak with and that's the gunman's grandmother who he shot in the face. it was a dispute, apparently, over wifi. she was on the phone with a cell phone provider complaining about wifi. what is her medical status after being shot in the face, and how important is she to this equation? >> right. so good evening, laura. so she is a key component to this investigation. right now she is critical. our prayers are with her as well as the entire community here in uvalde is also with the victims and the families. but we are hoping that she pulls through because she will be a key witness to this investigation because she can be able to tell us exactly what was the history of her grandson. what we know right now that this particular shooter did not have a criminal background, no gang affiliation. we do know he was

we talked a little bit about that with dan patrick. it's sickening as it is predictable because iff they wanted federal gun control, they had eight years t of obama to get somethingng passed and now democrats have the house, they have the senate and they have the presidency. so at this point put up or shutp up and let the politicalol and legal chips fall where they mayle. m and inea the meantime, we allus must take this moment to ask a what is it about our culture, our society, the way we're living now that is creatingat the conditions for so manyr young men to have zero regard for human life as in chicago or we're just for fun. i guess it was last night a well known homeless man who was merely sleeping was set on fire in the dark area under trump tower and some other buildings at 250 this morning. police say a man doused a sleeping seventy five year old homeless man with a flammableeepi liquid and then st him on fire. >> our young man just >> our young man just and angry than they were, let'ss say in nineteen eighty . it sure seemed s

dan patrick, i think, is the root of all of our horrific leadership in this state. as president of the senate. folks need to know that the lieutenant governor is not a vice governor in texas. lieutenant governor dominates the legislature. dominates the legislation. the problem is at the very top. i talk to republicans a lot. even republican lawmakers. they know that we must act, but they are preventing from doing so by the very, very top leadership who are cowards. they just pander to the gun lobby. they're afraid of them, and they've got to go. >> mike collier, candidate for lieutenant governor in texas, thank you for taking the time for being so candid and so clear and so forceful in your statements. we appreciate you for coming on. i want to go, charlie, i want to come to you. you've been writing a lot about this topic. i'm going to read a quote from the "washington post" about a devout nra republican, the headline on this is the uvalde shooting, quote, stirred something in him so he gave up his gun. on saturday night, 68-year-old retired high school history teac

lieutenant governor dan patrick went on to speak saying we are better than this. a sad day in texas and for this country. we'll have continuing coverage here on the fox news channel. thank you to our affiliates all over the country for joining us. john. >> john: the mayor of uvalde had quite a reaction to o'rourke, calling him a sick s.o.b. and said he needed to leave. and people will be discussing whether that was appropriate or not. joining us on the ground in uvalde, texas, and interesting that stephen mccraw, d.p.s. director, saying the school resource officer from the unified school district engaged with the shooter when he first arrived at the school but that no gunfire was exchanged at that point. did you catch that? >> bill: i did, and you know, we are still working off the information we heard from d.p.s. earlier, which is when the gunman arrived on campus there was some sort of gunfire exchanged between the school resource officer and the suspect. as we are told, the school officer was shot and injured. so, what we heard governor abbott say is apparently

listen closely. >> i will pass the mic to lieutenant governor dan patrick. >> mr. abbott -- >> excuse me. excuse me. excuse me. sit down. you are out of line and an investment. -- and an embarrassment. >> you are doing nothing. >> this is not the place to talk this over. >> this is totally predictable. >>, you're out of line. sir, you are out of line. please leave this auditorium. amy: after beto o'rourke was escorted out of the high school auditorium where the press conference was held, he spoke to reporters. >> the governor of the state of texas, the most powerful man in the state, chose to do nothing. kids were killed in their classrooms, told the parents he would do something and he did nothing. he came to my home town of el paso after 23 people were slaughtered and said he was going to do something. he did nothing. the only thing he did was make it easier to buy a gun. the only thing he did was make it easier to carry a gun in public. you bragged about the fact that would be no background checks, no training, no vetting whatsoever. amy: that was texas gubernat

the dallas morning news is also reporting that texas is lieutenant governor, dan patrick, the state second most powerful elected official, is canceling his speech to the nra. the maker of the gun used in the shooting is not attending the nra meeting. a spokesman for the georgia-based company said that he is skipping the gathering due to the horrifying tragedy involving texas where one of our products was criminally misused. to continue, we can't -- we believe this is not the appropriate time to promote our products in texas at the nra meeting. senators released a revised version of a bill designed to rein in big tech. the bill also aims to ban major tech companies from giving preference to their own products above those of competitors, a change that will likely impact companies including meta, amazon, apple and others. tech groups have already said the updates don't do enough to meet the requests. global news, 24 hours a day, on air and on quick take, powered by more than 2700 journalists and analysts in more than 120 countries. i am mark crumpton. this bill burck. -- this is bloomberg. >>

dan patrick and -- owens own this crisis. they failed to act when he had the last shooting at santa fe high school four years ago. whenever there is a policy failure, they close ranks. they have loosened the law since then. and when there is a crisis, to protect their party, they put party over people. and we c-span and we see reception, and it is just absolutely reprehensible. i don't know where the lie is. dan patrick and -- start with a lie, expect people to keep their mouths trapped? >> you know, the governor i believe it was yesterday, we never had that press conference, friday afternoon, days melts together as you hear coverage of the setting. he said, in fact, that he was lied to. but there was a reason why the governor was on stage the day of the shooting. a lot of times, facts are coming out of something or not necessarily right. >> when i see them do every time as they close ranks. whether he created the -- and expect everybody to follow his lead, or whether the lie was created down in the organization, and given to

patrick writing despite his strong support of the second amendment he didn't want to bring additional quote pain or grief to the families of those suffering in uvalde. in a prerecorded message texas governor greg abbott arguing gun control doesn't reduce crime. >> there are thousands of laws on the books across the country that limit the owning or using of firearms laws that have not stopped madmen from carrying out evil acts on innocent people. >> reporter: among the 14 acres of guns, gear and ammo exhibited here attendees divided over how elected officials might prevent more tragedies like uvalde. >> no one can own a weapon unless you're 25 years old >> 25? >> that's my thinking. >> reporter: when you hear some of the stuff that gun control advocates kick around after a shooting like this, like raising the age to make it 21 to buy a long gun or more red flag laws o background checks, is any of that something that you would support? >> no. i think we really need to look at mental health. >> garrett joins us now. you're outside the convention right now i'm curious. what's the crowd te

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and at this time i will pass the mike to lieutenant governor dan patrick. excuse me. excuse me. excuse me, with sit down. you're out of your out of line and embarrassing. a totally sure your line, sir. euro your line, please leave us a i can't leave you a sick son of a visiting with some good deal like this to make a boy, ah, i want to go down a step on simon's or corresponding. he joins me from outside the rob elementary school in you've all the texas steph on. we just saw beto a rourke trying to confront the texas governor over his record on gun control. now the governor and his supporters obviously do not want to talk about this. what about the american public? they want more than just talk right now let us pull suggest actually that 90 percent up to 90 percent of americans want to change. now, when i say change, i don't mean to an earthy or not implement the constitution. get rid of the 2nd amendment, which guarantees the right of a remark for every american to bear arms. but better controls, better background checks. red flag, the so called red flex states, what they have i

patrick. excuse me. excuse me. excuse me, a sit down. you're out of your out of line and an embarrassing. i hope you're doing nothing. no, a great to talk to, so this is totally pretty sure your line are you on line, please leave us a message. i can't leave you a 6 visiting with some good, you know like this to make a boy ah, i want to go down to step on simon's or corresponding. he joins me from outside the rob elementary school in you've all the texas stuff. and we just saw beto a rourke trying to confront the texas governor over his record on gun control. now the governor and his supporters obviously do not want to talk about this. what about the american public? they want more than just talk, right? yeah, let us pull suggest actually the 90 percent up to 90 percent of americans want change . now when i say change, i don't mean to an earthy or not implement the constitution. get rid of the 2nd amendment, which guarantees the right of her remark for every american to bear arms. but better co

patrick. texas governor greg abbott also not appearing in person, choosing instead to send a prerecorded video message. still senator ted cruz taking the stage and then headliner former president trump. >> the existence of evil in our world is not a reason to disarm law-abiding citizens who know how to use their weapon and can protect a lot of people. the existence of evil is one of the very best reasons to arm law-abiding citizens. [ applause ] >> reporter: back in washington, the senate does plan to hold a hearing addressing gun violence and children. as for those bipartisan taubs on gun control legislation, well, congress is out on recess but that group does plan to speak by phone and by zoom. protesters here hope that they do not lose the urgency, whit. >> rachel scott, our thanks to you tonight. >>> turning now to the other news this friday night, severe weather for millions as holiday travel ramps up. powerful storms slamming the carolinas into the northeast, damage from a possible torna

patrick have now blocked out of the engagement -- dropped out of the engagement. the maker of the gun used in the shooting in texas is also pulling out of the convention -- what can you tell us? >> i am down in houston, the same area where they had the tragic shooting. it will be interesting to see who will be curtailing their language down there. a split decision among the republican senators, where ted cruz said i wouldn't miss it for the world, but john cornyn says he will not attend. the texas governor says he will not be there in person. he said he will submit something on tape, and the big headliner is drawn will -- donald trump. do they have to acknowledge that tragedy happened a couple days ago? anna: yeah, what they are there to talk about and that event will be interesting. david, situation such as these, you seem to do something. is there anything lawmakers will be able to do, given the political gridlock we have seen on this subject for so long? >> we have seen this before, whereafter sandy hook, people thought something would be done -- it didn't get

numbe to give out pulicly. 830-278-2916 and at this time, i will pass the mic to lieutenant governor dan patrick. >>. >> reporter: texas governor greg abbott addressing the horrible situation in uvalde, texas only the conformation, 19 children killed yesterday during the gunman's rampage plus two adults more than a dozen are still being treated for their injuries we did learn today from governor abbott about the facebook posts, ones we heard about but have not been confirmed by authorities. the first post, i'm going to shoot my grandmother and then i shot my grandmother and then i'm going to shoot an a elementary school he came in heavily armed, wearing body armor and barricaded himself inside one classroom, where it's believed all of the children killed died during that rampage. we'll have complete coverage on the news tonight for two hours live from uvalde, texas. and our correspondents who were on scene and the rest of the day here >> there will bemuch more on the program tonight. i need indeed. indeed you do. indeed instant match instantly delivers quality candidates matching your jo

texas lieutenant governor dan patrick and country star lee greenwood. scheduled to perform today. >> for me to perform is an endorsement. obviously, that weapon killed kids. i just couldn't go. >> reporter: the nra has run into financial and legal trouble in recent years. still holds significant sway in the republican party and spending millions on their behalf. in 2020, spending $20 million from the super pac to support candidates. >> garrett haake, thank you. >>> and president biden wants stricter gun laws in the country. is there a compromise with republicans? we have kelly o'donnell with the latest. >> reporter: good morning, peter. after pain and grief, there is a question of gun safety action. a group of bipartisan senators have talked about the conversation, but it is unclear if legislation can move forward after other attempts have gone nowhere for a long time. some lawmakers say work could be done on background checks and age limits for gun purchases and red-flag restrictions to identify individuals with mental or behavior issues to block them

patrick, of the massacre, said that evil will always walk amongst us. that is true, and mental health, is almost always, raised on the situation. but, only in the united states does evil, and the mentally ill, have, virtually, unfettered access to military style, high powered rifles, high powered ammunition. can you see a need for that to change in the u.s.? he was equally matched with the cops. >> except for numbers, he had firepower superiority over them. but, no reasonable person can look you in the face, without giggling, to say we don't need to change this. obviously, the mentally ill, the schizophrenic, the violent, the felons, they cannot have access to any types of weapons, much less stuff like this. that must change we, as a nation, need to find middle ground. both sides have to move towards the middle, and we need to invent some ways of finding threats that are out there, prohibiting, and sequestering them, from having firearms. >> there are no semantics or minerals in the world, it's just access to guns. . we are going to hear, and the united

at this time, i will pass the microphone to lieutenant governor dan patrick. >> excuse me. excuse me. sit down, you are out of line and an embarrassment. sit down. sit in your place. you are out of line. you are out of line. you are out of line. please leave this auditorium. i can't believe you -- to make a medical issue. [indiscernible] why don't you get out of here. [indiscernible] [shouting] [shouting] their family members who are crying as we speak. their family members whose hearts are broken. there are no words that anyone shouting can come appear and do anything. to hear the brook -- to heal the broken hearts. every texan, every american has responsibility. we need to focus not on ourselves and our agendas, need to focus on the healing and hope that we can provide to those who have suffered unconscionable damage to their lives and loss of life. we need all texans in this one moment in time to put aside their personal agendas, think of somebody other than ourselves, think about the people who are hurt and help those who have been hurt. at this time, the lieutenant gov

. >> at this time, i will pass the mic to lieutenant governor dan patrick >> governor, i'd like to have a conversation with you. >> excuse me. >> excuse me. >> the time to have stopped this was after santa fe high school-- >> sen. cruz: sit down. >> you're out of line and an embarrassment. >> --was after el paso-- >> sen. cruz: sit down and don't play this stuff. >> the time to stop the next shooting is right now! and you are doing nothing! >> stephen: that's not true, beto. they're not doing nothing. they're yelling at you for pointing out that they're doing nothing. ( applause ) some people-- you, maybe, you might call this a stunt. but all he's doing is calling bull(bleep) on their lie, the lie that they'll do anything that might upset the gun lobby that lines their pockets. another liar on that stage getting yelled at by beto was texas attorney general ken paxton. he went on the fox news last night and pinched out this gem: >> we can't stop bad people from doing bad things. they are going to violate murder laws. they are not going to follow gun laws. i have never understood that arg

and you will notice that governor abbott is surrounded by his lieutenant governor dan patrick to his right and senator cruz behind him. o'rourke was channeling that sense of frustration. i think a lot of us are feeling that frustration. i want to play a bit of that moment for you. >> the shooting is -- right now and you are doing nothing. >> no! >> this is totally predictable when you choose to -- >> sir, you are out of line! sir, you are out of line! sir! please leave this auditorium. i can't believe you are a six out of the bit to come here and -- [inaudible] it's people like you, why don't you get out of here! >> [inaudible] >> juliÁn castro is the mayor of san antonio, texas, about 85 miles west uvalde of and of course previously served east of that community, as president obama's secretary of housing and urban development. he joins me now. it is great to have you on the program, though it is under awful circumstances. that got a lot of attention today. i think the idea for beto to do that was to get attention. there were some people mad at him in texas and some people were sayi

it might have been lieutenant governor dan patrick. they said this is not the time for politics. now is the time to be with families and that this isn't partisan but, chuck, it is partisan. there's one party that's refusing to pass gun laws. >> you brought up the comment he made at the beginning about it's been -- that 18-year-olds have been able to buy long guns for 60 years. i thought it was a strange thing for the governor to say. okay, i'll take that to your logical end there. you know what happened 56 years ago, katy? the school shooting that basically began this epidemic. 356 years ago it is and the one that unfortunately started it all. i'm not going to sit here and say that's cause and effect but it's not a good argument if you're governor abbott to say they've been able to do this in of 0 years and you're like, oh, in the last 60 years what has become an epidemic in this country and what has not? so there's that. ironically the other thing is he's talking about the issue of the lack of rural hospital beds, particularly mental health bed. there's a piece of legislation th

. >>> senator ted cruz of texas, lieutenant governor dan patrick, are also scheduled to attend the nra convention. their offices have not yet commented on whether their plans have changed since the shooting. much more on the fallout from the texas shooting. researchers say firearms are the leading cause of death among children. we're going to talk to a board-certified psychiatrist about the impact of gun violence and the handling of the recent tragedy. >>> also ahead, we will hit other headlines and dig into a stunning new report about the dan january 6th attack on the capitol and how former president trump has reacted when rioters started chanting hang mike pence. those stories and much more when we come back. your heart is at the heart of everything you do. and if you have heart failure, entrust your heart to entresto. ♪ ♪ it's the number one heart failure brand prescribed by cardiologists. entresto was proven superior at helping people stay alive and out of the hospital. heart failure can change the structure of your heart, so it may not work as well. entresto helps improve your

we believe we can start, leiutenant governor dan patrick. he thinks there is space for universal background checks. that is a great spot. a lot of people are talking about coming up with sensible red flag laws, giving samaritans the ability to go somewhere, when they feel like somebody is going to inflict violence on somebody else. so we can take away their guns before it happens. we should start there. i am hopeful in congress they are hoping to have a bilateral discussion. we should really begin to do that. because i do believe that the public supports what we are doing. i have to tell you this, victor, i am losing hope on the politics that we can fix it as a matter of public policy. politicians have lost the high ground on this, this is a moral issue. this is a human issue. we need to come together to listen to the voices of our community, because they want reforms. >> so, representative, i just want to be clear on what you are saying. you actually have more hope today in congress in the u.s. congress, which has been paralyzed for years,

take a listen to what dan patrick had to say about what will happen if the biden administration does let title 42 drop. >> if he repeals title 42, you're talking about as many people coming in in this first term of the biden administration. more people coming here illegally that list in new york city. almost twice as many as the city of houston. >> so what would a real world impact of today look like? in april, they expelled about 95,000 migrants from the united states using title 42. if title 42 is allowed to drop, a lot of those expulsions would flip to releases. back to you. >> charles: thanks, bill. let's get to brandon judd, president of the national border patrol council. still waiting on that decision. how are your people preparing for this? >> very little that could be done to prepare for an influx of what we're expecting. when you look historically what our numbers should be today, we should be between 1,000 and 1,500 people. that's normal. right now it about 8,000 people which pulls so many resource that's it creates artificial gaps and the cartels can bring more across the

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patrick spreading this lie. >> they want to bring millions of people in the country and give them a green card so they can it vote for the other party. joining me is staff writer for the "new yorker" and tom nichols contributing writer for "the atlantic." i want to congratulate you for your new gig, very proud of you. all of your friend are like all cheering for you. so congratulations with that. i want you to comment first on just what it means for american politics that one of our two political parties has molded itself in the guys of viktor orban. >> well, i moan, thy there's a few things here. one is that, you know, what tip capitalism happen with authoritarian states, seen them in totalitarian states and communist regimes, that the most autocratic behaviors are described -- are cloaked in the language of democracy, and so if you talk about, you know, elections, you mean elections in which not the entire population is allowed to participate. if you talk about freedom, it is a freedom that is leveraged against the lack of freedom, the lack of liberty for your other groups of peop

patrick and governor abbott will attend. appears that senator cornyn got cold feet. >> excuse knew. >> you're out of line and an embarrassment. >> sit down. >> you are doing nothing. >> get out of here. >> this is totally predictable. >> circumstances you're out of line. sir, you are out of line! sir, you are out of line. please leave this auditorium. >> i can't believe you're a sick son of a [ bleep ] that would come to an event like this to make a political issue. >> let's bring in nbc news correspondent morgan chesky in uvalde, texas. you spoke with beto after all of that contretemps. what did he say and what's been the reaction in uvalde? >> it really was a stunning scene. we saw officers running towards the high school as the exchange happened inside that gym face yourself, and then beto o'rourke was escorted out by law enforcement overs where we met him in a, pag lot, and did i ask him the question what do you say to texas governor greg abbott who says now is not the time to politicize this, and o'rourke simply said we

. >> texas governor dan patrick said the massacre, he said evil will always walk amongst us. that is true, and mental health is almost always raised in this situation. but only in the united states does evil and the mentally ill have virtually unfettered access to military-style high powered rifle, high powered ammunition. can you see a need for that to change in the u.s.? you know, he was equally matched with the cops. >> it's -- he was -- except for numbers, he had firepower superiority over them. but no reasonable person can look you in the face without -- without giggling and say we don't need to change this. obviously the mentally ill, the schizophrenic, the violent people, the felons, they can't have access to these -- any type of weapons much less stuff like this. that has to change. we as a nation has to find middle ground. both sides have to move towards the middle and we're going to have to invept some ways of finding threats that are out there and prohibiting and sequestering them from having firearms. >> there's more mental illness in the u.s. than anywhere else i

. >> but, ali, texas lieutenant governor dan patrick said maybe this was a week ago, or before the nra convention. this seemed to separate even what is the truth, and what is a bad look? >> kind of. senator john cornyn didn't go to nra either but made a delineation -- >> impressive. >> governor abbott trying to have it both ways by appearing virtually but not going physically in person. yeah, certainly this is one of those moments that separates in the moment, but i still think that the larger permission structure in conservative politics be as conservative as possible on this. on trump, though. we have talked about the ways he is not wed to much ideologically. in the rooms of his rallies, certainly this got the largest cheers. at the same time, the republican party doesn't need trump to lead them on the gun conversation right now. republican senators on the hill are doing it all by themselves. the nra doesn't even need to give them that road map any more. >> cornell, does it help democrats most likely to help trump be the face of this gun bill on the gun movement? >> it doesn't hurt b

at this time, i will pass the mic to lieutenant governor dan patrick. >> excuse me. excuse me. excuse me. >> sit down. you're out of line. sit down. no. >> sir, you're out of line. sir, you're out of line. sir, you're out of line. please leave this auditorium. i can't believe -- to make like this. why don't you get out of here. >> every confirmation for what we have, for what it's worth, we thought it was beto o'rourk. our folks -- we confirmed it. >> there are -- there are family members -- there are family members who are crying as we speak. there are family members whose hearts are broken. there's no words anybody shouting can come up here and do anything to heal those broken hearts. we all -- every texan, every american, has a responsibility where we need to focus not on ourselves and our agendas. we need to focus on the healing and hope that we can provide to those who have suffered damage to their lives and loss of life. we need all texans to, in this one moment in time, put aside the personal agendas, think of somebody other than ourselves, think about the people who wer

patrick was a huge conservative and the governor governor abbott himself who wanted to pass it couldn't get anywhere when you when you try to have any kind of a background check so you don't have you know where you can control more . so stranger to stranger purchases. i mean, these are just two examples where i would disagree with steve in the state of texas and other states in our nation where things could be done. and when you do want to talk about unity, americans are united regardless of party overwhelmingly on universal background checks. that's something that should have bipartisan support, but it just doesn't. the issue of guns and gun control is not just a partisan issue, it's an emotional issue and it just constantly hits a wall . yeah. and the shooter tonight as we continue to note, brooke, multiple state and federal laws with respect to possession that gun around your school, murdering people and all kinds of other things. so i agree with you that there are lots of discussions to be had, including what led up to this and how we can get better at that . we're just about out of

there and a good example of this in texas is that right after el paso, lieutenant governor dan patrick, who sits over the texas senate very powerful in the state, so that background check should be extended. he was willing to take arrows from the national rifle association, he quickly changed tunes. a few months later. and so that, time that window came and went. right afternoon, senators manchin and toomey got together and proposed expanded background checks. people felt like it might get done, it didn't. so time is of the essence of something is going to get done. and that is why you have seen that push for abbott to have a special session here in texas. >> we are going to keep that urgency in mind, and you and i are going to continue to talk, former secretary leon castro. thank you so much for being with. us in a surreal split screen, less than three miles away from here in houston, the nra continues with its annual convention. we are going to bring you a live report, after a quick break. but before, that dara brown is here with some other top stories we are following at msnbc. dara

sandra: greg abbott and dan patrick this week canceled there in person appearances at the nra convention in texas after the shooting. in doing so patrick said he did not want to bring any further pain or grief to these families in uvalde that are still suffering in this moment. several high profile republicans including former president trump did appear in person, is that insensitive? >> are you asking me sandra? >> yes brett. i suppose so. the truth is, if the thing had happened -- of the shooting had happened in washington d.c. and the convention were happening somewhere the same distance away in another state, i don't think it would have had the same -- causes a reaction. i suppose for appearances sake you could say it showing up the nra convention was insensitive to the people in uvalde. i doubt any of them are paying much attention to that. but the wet or didn't go it's a political gesture all the way around. sandra: olivia, onto the midterm elections. katy and mo brooks are heading to senate primary runoff in alabama. in the last few weeks he has been surging despite a repudiation

lieutenant governor dan patrick and senator john cornyn both bowed out of the event in the hall. were no guns were allowed. the program concluded with former president donald trump. >> and the former president is still speaking right now. as i mentioned, it took a little jab at the lawmakers who did not attend today. he said, quote, unlike some i didn't disappoint you by not showing up. you've got to show up. now the mayor here in houston, sylvester turner. he did face some pressure to try and cancel this convention for members of his own city council. also, there was 100,000 signatures. the mayor is a democrat, said he couldn't cancel for legal and contractual reasons. >> we'll send it back to you. >> daniel, thank you so much for your report. and we're going to have more coverage of what's happening at the nra convention tonight during kron. 4 news at 5. i'm rob nesbitt is working right now. i'm listening to what the former president is saying is we can hear that coming up during 05:06am, tonight. there are some parents who are now turning to bulletproof backpacks in the wake o

dan patrick. >> excuse me, excuse me. excuse me. >> sit down. are you out of line and an embarrassment. sit down. get out -- >> no, you need to get back out of here. >> this is totally predictable when --? sir, are you out of line. sir, are you out of line! sir, you are out of line! please leave this auditorium. >> i can't believe you are a second son of a bitch that would come to a deal like this to make an issue. it's -- like you, why don't you get out of here. [ inaudible ] . >> . >> there are family members, there are family members who are crying as we speak, there are family members whose hearts are broken, there is no words that anybody shouting can come up here and do anything to heal those broken hearts. we all, every texan, every american has the responsibility. we need to focus not on ourselves and our agendas. we need to focus on the healing and hope that we can provide to those who have suffered unconscionable damage to their lives and loss of life. we need all texans to in this one moment in time put aside the personal agendas. thi

patrick will not be attending and you mentioned the governor. and i certainly hope that other elected officials will not be attending. and, look, the nra certainly could have postponed their convention. they could have delayed it. they could have waited until the families had an opportunity to bury their loved ones, just showing respect for them. they chose not to. it's a convention and the city just doesn't have the right to cancel a conference or convention because we disagree with the substance of it. but having said that, delegates could choose not to come and certainly elected officials should not attend and everyone should be very sensitive and that's what i've said to the people who are protesting, the nra being in houston, let's express your view in such a way that doesn't bring added pain and anxiety and stress to the family members but you can certainly have every right to express your view and say that something needs to take place, something needs to be done to ban assault weapons, to not allow 18-year-olds, for example, in the state

. >> now, texas lieutenant governor dan patrick canceled his appearance tweeting while a strong supporter of the second amendment and an nra member, i would not want my appearance today to bring any additional pain or grief to the families and all those suffering in uvalde. this is a time to focus on the families first and foremost. he joins a list of musicians who canceled their appearances as well as texas senator john cornyn and texas congressman dan crenshaw. those lawmakers saying it was due to scheduling conflicts. protesters have been gathering all day yelling at attendees as they enter the building. in the crowd we found rachel conner a texan who hunts and supports the second amendment but not the timing of this event. >> i think they should have said, you know, we can do this another time. those families who are suffering, grieving, who probably don't have enough money to bury their kids. this is an affront to them. >> we also talked to nra member michael simbolo he is open in changes to american gun laws and age restrictions for purchasing ar-15s. can be at least 21. i think tha

katie, after el paso, the lieutenant governor, dan patrick, who sits over the senate very powerful. under the texas constitution. some say even more powerful than the governor of. it indicated that he thought background checks should be expanded and said that that time that he was even willing to take arrows from the national rifle association. but that sentiment and quickly fizzled and instead of restricting access to gun chant legislation several pieces of it in fact. making it easier for people to get it done here in texas. so people don't see too much hope. however, if it's going to happen, certainly time is of the essence right now when there is a lot of will to do among or lot of texas. people are paying attention to this issue because of what happened here. because of the shock of the killings here in uvalde. so it makes sense for democrats to call for a special session and the governor has called for special sessions for things much less important. some would say even trivial in the past. important. some would say even trivia >> from sandy hook to parkland to buffalo, and no

lieutenant governor dan patrick has cancelled has musician don mcclain but former president donald trump and senator ted cruz are a go. nbc news garrett haake is there. what are you hearing? >> reporter: you can hear the angry response that they're getting at this convention. there are a couple hundred demonstrators telling folks attending this conference which contains 14 acres of guns and gear that we want them out of their city. we've heard folks saying this is not the time and place or anything like appropriate to be holding this event in downtown houston today, just a couple hundred miles from uvalde. talking to attendees in the convention inside, it might surprise people to know their views on what if anything washington can do to restrict the ownership or somewhat make it safer are more nuanced than the hardline second amendment protection that's their organization represents. here's some of the folks i talked to this morning. >> no one can own a weapon unless you're 25 years old. >> 25. >> 25. that's my opinion. okay. now, my kid -- like i said, he grew up with being able to shoo

. >> sandra: britt, both texas governor greg abbott and texas lieutenant governor dan patrick canceled there in person appearances at the nra convention in texas after this shooting buried in doing so, patrick said he didn't want to to these families in uvalde that are still suffering in this moment, but several high-profile republicans, including former president trump, did appear in person. is that insensitive? >> you're asking me, sandra? >> sandra: yeah. >> i suppose so. the truth is it's -- you know, if the thing had happened -- if the shooting had happened in washington, d.c., and the dash and the convention were happening somewhere in the same distance away in another state, n't think it would have had the same -- because the same reaction. you know, i suppose from appearances sake that you could say showing up at the nra convention was insensitive to the people in uvalde, but i doubt any of them were paying very much attention to that. these are -- whether you want or didn't go, it's a political gesture all the way around. >> sandra: olivia, to the midterm elections now, katie

better roar told governor abbott and lieutenant governor dan patrick that somebody needs to stand up for the children of texas. it was escorted out of the venue eventually by police outside, he had made it very clear his outrage over the shooting. this 18 year old who just turned 18, but they are 15 and took it into an elementary school and shut kids in the face and killed them. why are we letting this happen in this country? why is this happening in this state year after year? city after city? this is on all of us. if we do not do something, and i am going to do something, and i'm not alone. the people of texas are with us. the majority of the people of texas are with us, but we've got to stand up to this or we just accept this theater and business as usual, and we accept the next shooting. we could have stopped . this. texas has some of the most gun friendly laws in the united states today at that news conference, governor abbott focused on mental health issues and argue that tougher gun laws in other states including here in california are ineffective. president biden again called

texas republican senator ted cruz and texas lieutenant governor dan patrick still plan to attend, as does today's featured speaker, former president donald trump. the nra says the secret service will prohibit guns inside the houston convention center during trump's speech. ukraine's military retreated from several positions along the eastern front thursday as russian forces made slow but steady gains in a push to seize control of ukraine's donbas region. russia appears to have seized control of lyman, a town with a strategically important railway junction. meanwhile, the mayor of severodonetsk in eastern ukraine claimed russia's assault has killed 1500 city residents while destroying over half of the city's residential buildings. on thursday, ukraine's president volodymyr zelenskyy accused russia's military of genocide, saying it was burning whole cities into ashes. in sudan, security forces were deployed the capital khartoum thursday as massive protests demanding an end to military rule continue. thousands of people took to the streets and marched towards the presidential palace dem