it'll take five to 10 years and yet this this combination of dod and and hhs right? i was able to co-lead it with alex azar. we delivered in less than 12 months less than eight months two vaccines with 90% plus efficacy and you and i wouldn't be sitting here together with our without face masks if it weren't for those vaccines, but but go back to where it began. yes. i got to know gus perna general perney. he was ahead of army material command at a time when we were making sweeping changes in the army. i stood up army futures command a way to kind of break the acquisition gridlock and so that we can modernize the army from the reagan era and gus perna. i quickly learned was a selfless selfless team player who put his duty first and was willing to give up parts of his organization. for the better good of establishing afc and that told me a lot about him. so when it came time in the spring of 2020 to set up warp speed and dod specific responsibilities were logistics, but but really distribution manufacturing pulling that piece put all together. it was very apparent to

it'll take five to 10 years and yet this this combination of dod and and hhs right? i was able to co-lead it with alex azar. we delivered in less than 12 months less than eight months two vaccines with 90% plus efficacy and you and i wouldn't be sitting here together with our without face masks if it weren't for those vaccines, but but go back to where it began. yes. i got to know gus perna general perney. he was ahead of army material command at a time when we were making sweeping changes in the army. i stood up army futures command a way to kind of break the acquisition gridlock and so that we can modernize the army from the reagan era and gus perna. i quickly learned was a selfless selfless team player who put his duty first and was willing to give up parts of his organization. for the better good of establishing afc and that told me a lot about him. so when it came time in the spring of 2020 to set up warp speed and dod specific responsibilities were logistics, but but really distribution manufacturing pulling that piece put all together. it was very apparent to

no politicization of dod and no misuse of the military. you address that with the guard. how were you able to deal with these tconcerns and handle decisions you didn't agree with. you didn't agree with the plan to remove troops from germany although you put in place an alternative that was withholding of aid from ukraine, finally did getover there . blockades in venezuela, activity with iran. instances of calling up retired officers from active duty and court marshaling them because they're saying things people didn't like. what were you prepared to do if there was a case there was a red line crossed and you weren't able to support ? >> i wrestled with a lot and you go back to the book sacred oath, the oath is to the constitution but part of the constitution's article to which establishes the president, he's the commander-in-chief and you're bound to obey his lawful orders . i was fortunate because president trump rarely issued orders but walk through these things sequentially in terms of ukraine assistance which we are obligated to do, it would be me at times for me and

it's reported in our recent projects, and could you describe any other initiatives that the dod or dod contractors have managed after project blue book ended and prior to a-tip beginning. did anything pre-date project blue book? >> i can't explain what reinstated project blue book. everything that people talked about over the years. i'm familiar with blue book, i'm familiar with a-tip. i haven't seen other documented studies that have been done by dod in that regard. so you're not aware of anything between project blue book and a-tip. >> and what has been done in those, it hasn't been brought to my attention. >> additionally, are you aware of any other programs focused on uap's have a technological engineering perspective? are you aware of any of those focused on the topic, other than to he is in the investigations? >> i'm not aware of any contractual programs or anything related to this other than what we're doing in the navy task force and what we're about to launch in terms of our efforts. >> same question for you, mr. bray. >> same answer, not aware of anything outside of what we'r

i think congress to give the dod people to give it risk but we need to get the dod lawyer sought the senior leaders meett with some these cutting edge industries. not thinking it's getting them an advantage protect the silicon valley and these commercial firms they get so frustrated as you will know they tell you the same thing of dealing with the bureaucracy. the leaders at the top if you look at now work in the army, heidi hsu is in the technology department of defense. the dod who followed david norquist they want this technology and our government. they wanted for our military but the bureaucracy is in encumbrance. you are spot on with adequate that's why put often futures command even today sit on the board of small companies and they sit in this valley of deata for 18 months. and they just cannot survive if you are a company of 100 or two at her people how to make it through? even though they have cutting technology. >> your d acquisition did a wonderful job she's been followed by bellis and his confirmation hearing we have got to get back to hop production line. there is an in

could you describe any other initiative that the dod or the dod contractors have managed after the project blue book, did anything also predate project blue book? >> i can't speak to what may predate. of course there's all these other things people talked about over the years. i'm familiar. i haven't seen other documented studies that have been done in that regard. >> so you're not aware of anything in between project blue book? >> i'm not aware of anything that is official that was done between the two it's been brought to my attention. >> additionally are you aware of any other dod or contract programs focused on uap's from a technological engineering perspective and by that i mean are you aware of any technologies on this topic other than and initiatives focused on the individual case of the investigations? >> i'm not aware of any programs that are focused on anything related to this other than what we are doing in that task force and what we are about to launch in terms of the effort. >> same question for you. >> same answer, not aware of anything we are doing outside of the task force

dod came across a little bit flat. there were moments, they were not being as forthcoming as they should, several moments they were contradicting themselves to think of people pour over the transcripts, they would see that. happy to show those if you would like. kennedy: give us more two contradictions, what we know and what did they say that contradicted it? >> you said it yourself, they were saying before we know it's not american technology, blue force technology. they testified today that was the case but they also said they didn't think it was foreign adversarial or you talk about aliens. if it's not our technology, if it's not adversarial technology, it's not alien technology than what is it? those are the only choices there are in clearly obfuscating. another issue i have, they acknowledge my program that i was part of an blue book but there's a 45 year gap in between. when asked what are you doing when congress asked what are you doing to collect any information the u.s. may have from other programs and efforts

dod certainly has a key part of that. we're concerned about making sure that we have the right capabilities with respect to micro electronics. casting and forging. battery and energy storage. critical materials, as you pointed out. i want to make sure that we have the right amounts of stockpiles to be able to support our efforts. so, dod is focused on this as a part of the overall government's effort. but your point, this is very, very important to us. >> so, this is something that you do have some great concerns about at this point. >> it is. it is. >> general milley, do you have anything you want to add to that? >> i concur 100%, concerned about us being reliant on raw material, critical minerals, to any country that is an adversary. to any extent as humanly possible that stuff should be produced in the united states and under our control. >> let me just mention something that's been asked about that we've talked about how we've done so much to send equipment to ukraine. of course, we can always debate whether we've sen

. >> what was getting to the election without political interference involving dod, and i talk about the final days where i am concerned about troops being deployed after the election, and me leaving would have left the dod leaderless when we are fighting covid and have troops in the streets and seven months without dod leadership before, and i thought stepping away would have been the wrong thing to do for the country, but great for me, chuck . >> you know how comfortable he is looking up to putin and -- do you think his instinct to the authoritarian leaders, and why do you think he seems to hold them in higher regard? >> he puts people in two categories, strong and weak. i don't understand it, and it's something you had to factor in and try to put into your calculous as you handled issues, but i can't explain it. >> there is a lot of people that would look at you you waited to tell the best stories when you could make a dollar off of it. >> i wanted to tell the story and i think it's critical for the american people to know the mistakes i made and the successes i achieved and et ce

can you talk about the importance of these compact states to dod's mission in the pacific? >> they're very important. we we always aim to be the partner of choice. and i think our continued engagement with them will certainly result in additional capability and capacity as we go forward. so i think the combatant commander is doing a great job in terms of continued engagement. but again, our goal is to make sure that we are the partner of choice. and so far, i'm very encouraged by what we're seeing. >> just a bit about the interagency process here. you know, you have the department of interior through the office of through the secretary for insular affairs and then you have the department of state has sort of lead negotiator. but dod is right there and to a certain extent, although you're a silent partner in terms of the nuts and bolts of the negotiation, you're the biggest deal in the negotiations. so what i'd like you to consider is appointing someone specifically to be in the room for even the preliminary negotiations. again, states got a lead on this. but having dod at t

it hasn't been brought to my attention. >> additionally, are you aware of any other dod or dod contrac programs focused on uap's from technological engineering perspective and by that i mean are you aware of any technology focused on this topic other tha initiatives focused on the individual case and that investigations? >> i'm not aware of any contractual programs focused on anything related to this other than what we're doing in the navy task force and what we're about to launch in terms of our efforts. >> same question for you. >> not aware of anything outsid that we are doing. >> so just to confirm you're no aware of any technology or engineering resources that have been focused on these efforts besides what we've mentioned today. or the reason i qualify it that way. i can't speak to what people ma be looking at in the department. somebody says i'm looking at something, i can't speak to that . i can speak to official program that we have on the record part. >> it's also been reported that there had been uap observed in interacting and flying over sensitive military facilities, not

clearly the institution has to endure, not just dod, it could be doj, you pick it. they are very important to our republic, to democracy, and one of my concerns about president trump is he didn't respect our institutions or our norms and that's why it's so important that we preserve them, and more importantly, it's critical that good people go into government and they serve and they stay, even when times get tough, democrat or republican, doesn't matter. we need good people because at the end of the day, these institutions have their cultures but they're only as strong as the people that are in them. i try to acknowledge all the great people at dod, civilians, officers, you name it, people who make the institution what it is and why it's so critical to our republic. >> i want to talk about the future. you said that donald trump is not democratic. or was a danger to our democracy. what is the specific threat he represents to american democracy? >> well, i just kind of spoke to that. this is a cautionary tale in that regard, right? we've got to elect people whether it

unfortunately this doesn't seem to be changing in this year's request remains 1.5 at the% of the total dod budget not concerned about multiple aspects of this years budget to further compound the challenges resented to milcon. further i'd like to add nonfat one to $100 million was an expensive price tag and increments were the exception rather than the rule. now we are looking at projects that exceed $1 billion becoming a common way of doing business. nearly one third of this sort year's request is for 27 projects and we know more will be added in future requests. we have known for years the more complex and large-scale projects are to take up a greater share of the budget without corresponding increases in a constrained budget gets squeezed even further to accommodate increments of these expensive projects. another challenge is the impact of supply chain issues on the construction market and corresponding increase in projects. when the challenges of milcon is budget development and project execution. with the current environment exacerbating this issue frankly i'm concerned about market v

this happened in the one gigahertz band where you had the faa, dod, i believe noaa that have similar products that they utilize, that they are utilizing them in ways that can be consolidated, and therefore they will be more spectrum freed up. that is one example of inefficiencies that can be addressed. >> are we addressing them, or how do we address them so that we make sure that this limited, finite resource we have is managed most efficiently? >> honestly, yes of course ntia is constantly setting ways to make the uses more efficient. they are told to manage the system which is quite antiquated. it would be helpful in creating transparency of federal users. and increasing the incentive for federal agencies to study their own victims and -- systems and find ways to repurpose once they have. >> thank you so much. that is very helpful. i would like to turn to dr. valentina if i can. legislation like hr4275 is important because it will help -- we talked about this all morning. why eligible individuals and up and rolling, and more often why they do not enroll in lifeline. while this is f

dod's after-the-fact analysis indicated there are 50 afghan evacuees with essentially serious security concerns who were released into the united states. of course, there is also assault on our borders by criminal drug trafficking organizations. this is not new, but it has gotten worse. with this shift from fentanyl production from china to mexico, they have profound consequences. fentanyl seizures in march compared to 2021 a year ago, and over 300% increase from march 2020. these numbers don't actually tell us how much is flooding into our communities. in fact, the border patrol tells us they believe that the vast majority of drugs are not being apprehended. in my home state of ohio and around the country, these drugs are coming in and resulting in broken families, damaged communities, and the loss of lives to overdoses. on a massive scale. we are also facing constant cyber attacks to critical government infrastructure and federal networks. i believe we are just in our support of ukraine. we are at higher risk than ever out of -- of a russian cyberattack. the critical infrastructure a

state has the lead on this but having dod at the table makes an enormous difference for compact states in terms of conveying to these compact states how important they are to us. sec. austin: as the chairman pointed out at the top of the meeting, secretary blinken and i are great partners, and i am sure this will be what he will want to see as well. we will continue to work with the entire inter-agency to make sure we are in the right place. sen. tester: senator boseman. sen. boozman: thank you mr. chair. thank you for all you do, both of your testimonies highlight the important of deterrence for aligning department policies to strengthen deterrence. the central part of this is bolstering our allies and partners to better deter our adversaries. general milley, as you mentioned in your testimony, you continue to strengthen relationships by building partner capabilities to deter our adversaries. recently, several european allies had the intent to purchase the f 35 fighter jet with poland and germany be helpful to our national security and deterrence against russia in europe, and going fu

the role between dod for the design, development, testing and production of u.s. nuclear weapons and delivery systems it also serves as a critical role for anticipating future needs and managing priorities and risks. the biggest challenge faced today is conducting the modernization programs while simultaneously revitalizing our infrastructure. fully committed to executing programs as efficiently and quickly as possible while managing the risks however the risks will persist until we complete the enterprise recapitalization efforts. progress is being made for the operational schedule and the w93 in partnership with the dod. i am proud of how well they are working with the navy air force and nuclear weapons council during this demanding time. the 2022 nuclear posture review laid out some initiatives that impact the nmsa. we are committed to implementing the resilience and technology innovation to promote nonproliferation and nuclear risk and enhance counterterrorism. the support thank you and i look forward to your questions. >> chair man read, chairman king, rankin

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vulnerability and dod has a key part weo are concerned about making sure we have the right capabilities with respect to microelectronics, casting and foraging, battery and energy storage critical materials as you pointed out to make sure we have the right amount the stockpile to support our efforts t dod is focused on this as part of a the overall government efforts but to your point this is very important to us. >> this is something you do have concerns about quick. >> it is. >> i concur 100 percent i'm concerned over the raw materials into the extent that is humanly possible to be under our control and produced in the united states. >> and then to send that equipment to ukraine and to debate that there is no doubt that the success that we have had is because of our helping in the process. but to follow up and then to come out of the defense stockpiles and i'm glad congress has appropriated three.5 billion to backfill the transfer. and then the house passed legislation for additional support for ukraine. it is clear the equipment start could prove vital if a similar situation might ari

our goal in network piece to establish a understanding of use cases both from federal mostly dod and commercial use and then try to have solutions for sharing print we understand the primary goal is to not have interference, especially with some dod systems being dealt with, but also with commercial systems. >> it is important for our committee to have a hearing on this bring in the fcc and ntia and have a discussion about time frames and working with civilian and other federal agencies to come up with a game plan. otherwise we may be ending up still studying things as these options transpire. last question, and it was hinted at before. why extend the authority for only a short period of time? i understand the answer is we don't have options coming up. but why are we not just extending the authority for the fcc to do these options indefinitely? they will take time, a great deal of work goes into studying the effects, who is interested, who is not, what potential problems might be. so at this point where we not just giving this authority to the fcc so we don't have so many months put

dod has not complied with the law. not having these reports hurts oversight and planning for your command. general, i understand this is not your primary response ability. but you will be the senior military leader overseeing the spending. will you make sure this committee receives the reports required by law this year? >> i will submit all the data i am required to. >> i appreciate that and will hold you to that. it's likely you and the president will come again with additional requests. if you want congress to approve tens of billions of dollars, you need to show us how you are making sure that money is spent responsibly. >> if i could make a comment, and is not lost on me how much money we're talking about here. i and we owe it to the american taxpayer to have a thoughtful application of those funds and a full accounting above. >> i appreciate it and look forward to the reporting. thank you. >> senator tillis from ablaze. >> thank you, with regard to the time you spent with a senator a week or so ago, congratulation