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let's get straight to msnbc law enforcement analyst jim kavanaugh. jim, there are a few details that i wanted to add to what we heard from governor hochul. the prince of the suspects, we are told, are distraught, and so, far cooperating. we are told that role enforcement officials are awaiting a search warrant to go into the home. the prints say the 18 year old recently legally purchased the weapons. we heard more on that from the governor. investigators are looking into where and how those ritualistic place. there was a semi automatic rifle, a hunting rifle, and a shotgun. police still processing the scene, unclear how many rounds were fired in all at this early stage of this investigation. and the feds are speaking with locals about the possibility of filing federal hate crime related charges. in addition to all of, that we also reporting from nbc's been collins. a manifesto claiming to be written by the suspect includes a shared birthday, details with the suspect originally posted to google docs on thursday night. we have senior law enforcement an

and joining our discussion now, jim kavanaugh. a former atf special agent in charge. also frank, who served as fbi director of intelligence. both our nbc analysts. frank, let me begin with you. and what is your reading of what we can expect of a federal review of what happened there? >> yeah, let's set expectations as you are doing. this is an after action critical incident review. certainly not a criminal investigation. but it will be extremely thorough, comprehensive, independent. and it's being done by the right unit. they're not coming in and assuming criminality. this is something for the best practices, and in this case. the worst practices. so that everyone can move forward and learn what to do, and what not to do. so, i'm pleased to hear this. it's much needed. i hope there is full cooperation but everyone, including the chief of the school police department. so we can teach communities how to do this right. how to have a master key to the schools available are every shift on this police department. how to pick the best trained commander, what's the best what

>> jim kavanaugh no, can you hear me? >> >> all right, jim kavanaugh is one of our analysts here. retired atf special agent in charge. former hostage negotiator for the atf. jim kafanov, can you hear me? jim >> yeah, richard you've got me here. >> perfect, we can now hear you jim. you know, we have been in these situations before, jim, and we are getting varying pieces of mid information. one of the suspect was killed. now we are hearing that he is in custody. when you know and what do you hearing because i know you also have your own sources they're both in the local level as well as on the federal level. >> you know, for all preliminary indications, everything has not been verified yet by nbc news, but the preliminary envy indications coming out is that this is a vicious hate crime. i mean this guy is reported to have white supremacist markings on his rifle. you know that can mean a lot of things they use a lot of different symbols. for example aged thc means hail hitler but there are a lot of different symbols of white supremacy. but something is in on the rightful indicating t

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. >>> and joining our discuss now is jim kavanaugh, former atf special agent in charge. also with us fbi assistant director of counter intelligence. frank, let me begin with you. what is your reading of what we can expect of a federal review of what happened there? >> yeah. so let's set expectations, as you're doing. this is an after-action critical incident review. it's not a criminal investigation. it will be extremely thorough, comprehensive, and independent. it's being done by the right unit. they're investigating the best practices and perhaps the worst practices. to learn what to do and what not to do. i hope there's full cooperation by everyone, including that chief of the school police department so we can teach communities how to do this right. we have to have a master key available to every shift of the police department. how to pick the best-trained incident commander, what the best swat team is in the area. even better, if it gets to recommending grant money for those who don't have anything we said. >> jim kavanaugh, what are the questions you would hope get

joining us now, pete williams and jim kavanaugh, a former atf special agent. pete, can you clear up some of the discrepancies for us? early reports in the fog of this terrible situation, was the school resource officer armed during the initial altercation with the shooter outside? did he try to take him down? >> the simple answer to your question about whether i can clear this up is, no. we don't have definitive answers to these questions. whether the school resource officer shot at him and then what happened, what happened in the school and why it took so long. i will say a couple of things that are apparent now. one is, we have been told that the police officers inside, when they got to the locked door of the classroom -- that was the first problem, the door was locked when they got there. he was firing at the police officers through the wall. he had a very high powered rifle that was capable of shooting through the walls of the school. he was shooting at them. obviously, they can't see him. they don't know where he is. they're not going to shoot back. they

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. >> jim kavanaugh is a former special agent and joining us. jim, good morning. nice to see you. we heard the detail of devastating failures by the police in what took place in uvalde. what strikes me here is the children in that school did everything right. they called 911. they pleaded for help. it is the police and law enforcement that is responsible for the failures and not doing their job and not protecting them. what should this response have looked like? >> good morning, kristen and peter. yes, let me tell you how it should have went. it is a heartbreaking case. officers were brave. they took rifle fire and they were stopped by the locked doors of the classroom. they reached a breach point. they are stopped. they cannot go through the door or wall without breaching tools. this is the failure of american law enforcement across the board in patrol area. we have not learned the lessons of virginia tech and the amish school in lancaster, pennsylvania. this is common in american law enforcement patrol. it needs to be fixed. no breaching tools. you want to go for the key. the su

i want to bring you retired -- jim kavanaugh -- and wheels have retired seattle police chief carmen best -- you two are the perfect people to have this conversation with. let's talk about what we know. we know that the you've all the school district hosted a training for officers dealing with an active shooter situation in december. they actually did a simulation. yet, officials seemingly went against the training and the protocol that allowed more than 45 minutes to go by, nearly an hour, before authorities pursued the shooter. , jim i'm really looking for your response to what happened here and i also want you to tell us what should've happened on tuesday. >> rights symone, thanks for having me. it's good to be on with the chief. active shooter training does not include launching an emergency assault where you have to breach a room and take out a person who is basically holding hostages. most active shooters, the whole event is 10 to 12 minutes, the police go, and confront the shooter, there's a shootout, recommit suicide, and that's the end of it. the reason this thing went so long as

jim kavanaugh, that is something that they may want to add when they are trying to tell kids in america how to stay alive in their classrooms. republicans might want to suggest that to them. cover yourself in the blood of whoever is near you, and the florida classroom. because, republicans, who are in control of these outcomes, legislatively, in washington, are not going to do anything to prevent the next ar-15 from getting into a school in this country. >> you are right, lawrence. they have ice water in their veins there. they're not gonna do anything on gun control. you could get 1000 kids in american schools, and there would be no votes for gun control on the hill. that's the way it is. the failure -- >> but we learn today what stood out for you? >> well, the press conference, really, was awful. i need to agree, i with these press conferences, i've had to speak to the national media, and sometimes, before those, i would say, go bring that detective in here, that you said did that, and i want to talk to a person before i tell the media what happened. if i wasn't sure about the facts i

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. >> jim kavanaugh and thank you, secretary castro, who will be staying with me. over the next two hours, we are going to dig into the investigation into the robb elementary school mass shooting and how the community is coping. as i mentioned earlier, hours from here, the am r -- and r a are holding its annual convention calling for background checks. we prepared to bury 19 of their children. dara brown is here with other top stories. >> good morning to you, alicia. kamala harris is set to arrive in buffalo new york later this morning. harris will meet with the families of the victims of the recent mass shooting and will attend the service of ruth whitfield, the last member to be laid to rest. the cdc says that it has identified ten cases of monkeypox across eight states in the u.s., adding that the country is prepared to respond. the cdc is also investigating more than 200 mysterious cases of hepatitis among children. world health organization says that it has identified 650 cases in 33 countries. and the trial of a better for worse, they captured americas attent

kavanaugh on the board of the richard nixon foundation. . thank you all for being. here we are gathered at the nixon library this afternoon to discuss the ongoing war between russia and ukraine. the reason hostilities began after a 24 and sadly took an even more brutal shift swooning with a new russian offenses in the donbas. our panelists they will tell that they know what. your military strategy to me things stories of ukraine so that was the terrible toll cashed stretch. i's response to the west what america. our panelists today are pastoral ryan, americas 20th national security for that serve to special envoy for hostage affairs, those u.s. representative to the general assembly. master bryan's co-chair of the nixon summit are, the nixon foundation's ongoing monthly educational foreign policy series. sean and his mcatee award winning film former, who recently returned from ukraine, and who has been filming a documentary about the russian patients. strip and visited the frontlines in both ukrainian president vladimir zelenskyy before evac

. >> jim kavanaugh, nbc, and miss nbc law enforcement analyst. your time at the atf as a special agent always served us in these moments. we when we're trying to understand that which is incomprehensible jim is always. thank you. we take a quick break. but our live coverage continues here on american voices. t our live coverage continue here on american voices. ♪ ♪ we believe there's an innovator in all of us. ♪ that's why we build technology that makes it possible for every business... and every person... to come to the table and do more incredible things. do your eyes bother you? because after all these emails my eyes feel like a combo of stressed, dry and sandpaper. luckily, there's biotrue hydration boost eye drops for instant moisture. biotrue uses naturally inspired ingredients. and no preservatives. try biotrue dove knows we damage our hair a lot my hair i curl it. i have to use a lot of heat new dove hair therapy shampoo & conditioner with ceramide & peptide. it nourishes at a cellular level to rescue damaged hair. discover 10 x str