william barr, the attorney general, said that there was no widespread fraud. all of the successors of the justice department who threatened to resign over this issue said there was no fraud. we know that secretary of state of georgia raffensperger told him there was no fraud. his own director of national intelligence told him there was no fraud. and more than 60 judges told him there's no fraud. in fact, the judge who suspended her law license of rudy giuliani, said in fact, there was not even a scintilla of evidence of fraud. they just made up. so in the face of that, at some point, you have to believe that donald trump knew there was no fraud. there is an instruction in the law the juries get willful blindness, and you can't avoid the high probability of the fact, just by pretending it doesn't exist. so i think some combination of those factors as likely would have caused him to change his view that there is not sufficient intent evidence. >> basically, you're saying that you can't just play dom and say, i didn't know despite the fact that almost everybody i

he's still william barr. doesn't the fact even that guy who was trump's consiglier, he acted like he was trump's lawyer, told trump you have no legal basis to contest the election, what might the panel get from him? >> trump's state of mind about whether he really believed he lost the election. the white house on january 6th, his main evidence to the committee would be how did trump respond when barr told him there was no evidence of widespread voting fraud in the 2020 election? he sure looked like he didn't care. trump said, that's not really the issue. joy, you're right, barr put his integrity on lay away. going to the panel, his testimony is crucial. >> he was called the coverup general in the '90s. i don't know that integrity might have known him a long time. paul butler, thank you very much, my friend. really appreciate you. >>> still ahead, emergency shipments and ramped p production are expected to ease the nationwide baby formula shortage in a few days. how did this shortage happen in the first place?

when attorney general william barr released a redacted version of the nearly 400-page mueller report. >> was there a conspiracy in the election between russians and americans trying to help donald trump? was there obstruction or other crimes arising out of that investigation? >> mueller never concluded either way whether the president obstructed justice. so william barr made a determination himself. >> there is an attempt here to preempt congress's role. we had the lawmaking branch of government. we are the primary and dominant branch of government. we are the ones who will decide whether there were high crimes and misdemeanors committed by this president. barr had done a mess to masterful job of -- the public about it, everybody's eyes about what was really in the report. he took a complicated set of facts which showed lots of wrongdoing and condensed the to no collusion, no obstruction. >> there was no evidence of the trump campaign collusion with the russian government hacking. >> there was no collusion, no obstruction, there was no nothing. >> neither of those things within their.

>>> nbc news has confirmed former attorney general william barr is now in talks with the january 6 select committee about testifying before the panel. they reported barr is discussing a potential interview with the committee scheduled to hold public hearings on its findings starting next month. a spokesperson for the committee declined to comment on whether barr will cooperate. joining me now is ali vitali and joyce vance. what is the sense whether he would testify or this talking about talking may go the way of rudy giuliani? >> that's the open question here. it's not the first time that we have seen someone close to the former president say that they are in talks to go before the committee and then ultimately have it fall apart or just at this point have it not come to fruition. on the point of giuliani, that's something i have been asking about. with bill barr, of course, we watched the book tour he went on. we know that because of the way he left the administration, he and the former president didn't end things on the best of terms. at the same time, he said he would vote for trump ag

that is a unique distinction in american history and it says a great deal about william barr's patriotism and his commitment to public service. and perhaps his two tours of duty as attorney general under two very different presidents were the inspiration of his book "one damn thing after another." our guest of honor tonight has added a distinguished career in both the public and private sectors picky begin government service in the administration of president reagan as a member of the white house domestic policy staff from 1982-1983. after several years in private practice he returned to government in president george h.w. bush is administration serving as assistant attorney general of the office of legal counsel. next is deputy attorney general and then as the 70,000 attorney general of the united states from 1991 to 1993. -- 77. 77. he returned to the private sector where a 1994-2017 he enjoyed great success and earn enormous respect as one of the nation's preeminent legal minds, and ensure he didn't have to deal with as many damn things in the private sector. then in 2018 when he was u

william barr has formally talked to the committee last fall. they want him to speak again, this time under oath. how likely is that? >> anderson, they have a tentative agreement for him to appear with the committee to do this interview under oath. so, we expect that this is actually going to happen. one of the interesting things with bill barr is he has spoken a little bit publicly doubting the committee and whether it's made too much of a big deal about january 6th. but obviously there's a lot of information the committee believes he has from the period before he left office. keep in mind he left office at the end -- just before the end of december. so, there's a lot of information he has from the period after the election that he can tell them about. >> the last time barr spoke with the community, conversation focused on interactions with president trump before and after the election. is that still the focus? >> that's right. he spoke about two hours with staffers, liz cheney, the republican who's the vice chair of the committee. and we belie

former attorney general william barr appointed him. we had the three year anniversary of this probe this month. what is interesting about this probe, he has gone -- it has gone on longer than the special counsel mueller procured we have seen less people indicted, far less activity out of the durham pro. guest: what was he told to do? host: to look into the fbi and other u.s. intelligence agencies handle the investigation into president trump's alleged ties to russia ahead of the 2016 election. he has pretty wide variety where he can look into whatever pops up. in 2019 to 2019 -- 2020, he was going overseas, following investigations, tips where they lead. we have seen some indictments that have come out of him. we do not know if more is coming out. what he has been doing is looking at how largely the fbi, but also the cia and other agencies, what they did when they were apprised of the allegations there might collusion between the trump campaign and russia. host: how has he gone about this investigation? how would you characterize it? g

that is a unique distinction in american history and it says a great deal about william barr's patriotism and his commitment to public service. and perhaps his two tours of duty as attorney general under two very different presidents were the inspiration of his book one damn thing after another. our guest of honor tonight is been a very distinguished career of both the public and private sectors. he began government service of that member of the white house domestic policy staff from 1982 -- 1983. after several years in private practice he returned to government and president george h.w. bush's administration serving as assistant attorneyy general the office of legal counsel bright next deputy attorney general and then as the 77th attorney general of the united states from 1991 -- 1993. he returned to the private sector where from 1994 -- 2017 he enjoyed great success and earned enormous respect is over the nations preeminent legal minds and i am sure he did not have to deal with as many damn things as the private sector. in an 2018 when they undoubtedly join the fruits of a long and succ

ellie, what unique insight does william barr, the former attorney general, have into donald trump's state of mind during the weeks leading up to the insurrection. >> bill barr's testimony could be crucial because it goes directly to donald trump's state of mind. we know that bill barr came out in december about three weeks after the 2020 election and said doj, the largest investigative body in the country has found no evidence of widespread voter fraud. barr claims he said the same thing directly to donald trump's face. if that is true, that shows donald trump knew he did not win the election, knew there was no evidence of election fraud. so all of donald trump's efforts to steal the election after that were based on a fraud or based on a lie. that's going to be a crucial issue for the committee. >> gloria, why do you think barr has agreed to testify when so many other former trump officials have resisted? >> first of all, barr left the white house before january 6th. he's gone on record and has written a book. he went on the record saying the election wasn't stole rn. trump lost it. he h

nbc news confirms former attorney general william barr is in talks with the house january 6th committee to testify. what we know about that. >>> and burn bits. senators just announced a bipartisan bill to help veterans exposed to the toxic pits that have been linked to cancer. an iraq war veteran explains what this means for those that served. we will, though, start in seoul, the first stop on the president's trip to asia. and white house correspondent carol lee is with us. and i'm joined by geoff bennett. this is his first stop. what's he done so far? and talk to me about the need for this government or the desire for this government to try to move away from some of the more integral parts of the economy? move them away from reliance on autocratic governments like china? >> that was a key message that the president had today, after he arrived in south korea, when he went to the samsung factory, which is a model for a factory that samsung is going to build in texas. that's what the president was emphasizing. he noted the economic alliances are a way to have a check on china. and then, a

new signs the former attorney general william barr is ready to testify to the house january 6th committee. and evidence the committee says it has about a tour of the capitol that barry loudermilk gave on january 5th,de

. >> and glenn, before we go, attorney general william barr, forney attorney general, working out, it sounds like, an agreement to speak with the january six committee. >> let me start with the caveat. if bills bar bars world where it is to be credited, we know that he has been on his reputation. rehabilitation tours, and he is said among other things that on december 1st he told the president that your claim, mister president, of election fraud, is, to paraphrase bill barr, the s. what that does, lawrence, is it provides powerful evidence of donald, criminal intent every day moving forward from when his own attorney general said your claims are elected election fraud robert reich are bs. what does that do? it provides evidence is of his corrupt intent. >> thank you so much for joining us again tonight. >> thank you lawrence. >> coming up today, vice president kamala harris objected to the latest state law restricting abortion. this time, in oklahoma. what's on the horizon? the answers lie beyond the roads we know. we recognize that energy demand is growing, and the world needs lower

barr appointed him as special counsel, which meant he couldn't be removed when the new administration took over. i believe that would have been after the election. either way, he is a special counsel. cannot be removed technically. although joyce maybe can argue this the other way. by the sitting attorney general. the bottom line is, where does this investigation go? we have not heard a lot of details about what else they are looking into. it's believed we will get a final report similar to what happened with special counsel mueller. we will have to keep an eye out. >> a lot to unpack there. joyce, wasn't there one other fbi official who was brought up on charges for the way -- the origins of the original parts of the investigation, at least, parts of the surveillance that was approved early on in this investigation? >> yes. there was an earlier case. again like this one, it was very finely tuned. it involved whether or not language was changed in an email. in that case, the young lawyer involved was convicted on those charges. this also establishes some of the parameters that tom is

nbc news confirms former attorney general william barr is in talks with the house

barr left like jeffrey rosen and richard donahue who taught about how jeffrey clark had a plan to throw the election into the states, and so getting their hands on those transcripts can be very valuable in trying to put this all together and then, as you say, if they have got additional testimony not known to the committee like the testimony of these oath keepers they may be able to put together charges in very short order. >> they are asking for transcripts of interviews that were conducted and will be conducted, so it's intriguing that they have eyes on the investigation. one transcript they will never get is donald trump. the january 6th committee said they won't even try to call donald trump. it seems very hard to believe that someone like donald trump who if you talk to people like tim o'brien and other people who have been biographers of him, when it comes to anything about himself, he doesn't care about anyone else but he definitely cares about himself and if the idea was that he wanted to remain in power by any means necessary, it's hard for me to believe that he wouldn't have k

he was appointed by william barr in the trump administration in order to investigate the origins and the justice department's handling of the trump russia investigation. the defendant in this case, is a former lawyer for hillary clinton's 2016 campaign. he's charged with lying to the fbi. cnn's paula reed is covering the trial. >> today, prosecutors laid out their case against michael sussmann, a former lawyer for hillary clinton's 2016 presidential campaign on trial for a single charge of lying to the fbi. >> did you lie to the fbi? >> in her opening argument, prosecutor britain shaw painted sussmann as a high powered d.c. lawyer who lied to direct the power and resources of the fbi to his own ends. and to serve the agenda of his clients. the trial is the first resulting from special counsel john durham's three-year investigation into the origins of the fbi's trump russia probe. the case shining a spotlight on opposition research in politics. >> it's part of what happens in a campaign where you get information that may or may not be useful, and you try to make sure anything you put

barr. and going to the 2022 midterms and the 2024 election, i think we really need to be paying attention to these narratives. shauna, frank hassan, you both so much for being with us. next, the american dream takes center stage. eco writer of a new musical, putting spotlight on dreamers. he's gonna join us. later, twitter and elon musk, the president of media matters, and why he fears it could be more like fox news. be be more wow, first time? check out this backpack i made for marco. oh yeah? well, check out this tux. oh, nice. that'll go perfect with these. dude... those are so fire. [whines] only pay for what you need. ♪liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty.♪ here's to real flavors... real meals. real good. all of knorr's high quality pasta and rice sides are now made with no artificial flavors or preservatives. knorr. taste for good. this is the sound of nature breathing. and this is the sound of better breathing. fasenra is a different kind of asthma medication. it's not a steroid or

we had william barr. kellyanne conway, jared kushner, they have books coming out. i do think, though, yes, instructive and valuable for the future. i think also a case can be made that there are moments -- every time a trump official has come out with a book or later revealed in an interview about something that happened, there is the pushback. why did you say this now? why did you stay? if you were opposed to what was happening in the administration, why did you stay? those on the political side don't have an idea. someone like an esper or others, this was always the version we heard from former defense secretary mattis, former national security adviser mcmaster, they felt an obligation to stay to the country. it was their duty to put up some guardrails. they were the ones willing to take the criticism. hey, how could you work for this guy? they felt like, well, if we weren't here, things, as bad as they are now, things would be much worse. it is a different story for those trying to achieve their political games. certainly in the national security sphere, that's

former attorney general william barr appointed him. we had the three year anniversary of this probe this month. what is interesting about this probe, he has gone -- it has gone on longer than the special counsel mueller procured we have seen less people indicted, far less activity out of the durham pro. guest: what was he told to do? host: to look into the fbi and other u.s. intelligence agencies handle the investigation into president trump's alleged ties to russia ahead of the 2016 election. he has pretty wide variety where he can look into whatever pops up. in 2019 to 2019 -- 2020, he was going overseas, following investigations, tips where they lead. we have seen some indictments that have come out of him. we do not know if more is coming out. what he has been doing is looking at how largely the fbi, but also the cia and other agencies, what they did when they were apprised of the allegations there might collusion between the trump campaign and russia. host: how has he gone about this investigation? how would you characterize it? g

so please join me in welcoming the 77th and 85th attorney general of the united states, william p bar and faster matt parlow. [applause] thank you very much. thank you. thank you very much. thank you. general barton honor to be with you here tonight. i'm honored to be here at the library and i appreciate everyone coming out this evening. them to the land of $7 gas. so let's jump in at your second attorney general stint. you had a great life in retirement. the book talks about all the interests and things you were doing the balance and being able to do consulting and have lots of time for family and other interesting things. what called you back into public service? i thought we were at a critical juncture in our history. i felt the 2016 election. was absolutely essential to win. i was worried for the republicans. i was worried that the progressives were pretty close to pushing the country over the cliff into the abyss from which it would be very hard to ever recover. and trump turned out to be i didn't originally i was never a never trump or i didn't support him initially. i supported