joining us, courtney garcia from payne capital management great to see you. >> thanks for having me. >> what do you make of the bounce today >> i think the question investors have to ask themselves, are we heading into recession, is that why the markets are selling off, is that why the markets are up today i think ultimately i think it is possible we can get through high inflation without going into recession the next couple of months as an investor, what you want to look at, if you are of the mind-set we can get through this, you can start to look at some of these as buying opportunities. i wouldn't say jump in with two feet, haven't seen the volatility we call a bottom. but there are opportunities to have mind-set of impending recession, may want to wait longer. i think there's value to be had and we can very well get through this. >> you like small caps, you're not convinced we hit a recession. >> correct that's one of the plays, if you're of the mind-set we can get through this, small caps are well valued. earnings growth expectations are attractive they're expected to grow 20% l