garrett haake has more news right now. >>> good monday morning. i am garrett haake in washington. we are watching a number of major developments this morning, starting with fallout from another deadly weekend of gun violence across the united states. look at what happened over this one weekend. yesterday, mass shootings in arizona and michigan and then in chattanooga, tennessee. second mass shooting in that city in as many weeks. saturday, another shooting in arizona with others in south carolina and in georgia and then that chaotic scene in philadelphia where three people were killed. in all, at least a dozen people killed. this morning, we're seeing new surveillance video of the exact moment shots rang out in philly sending a massive crowd into a panic at an entertainment district. the suspects there are still on the loose. we go to philadelphia for a live report in a moment. we also go to uvalde, texas, hearing from a funeral attendant that tried to go after the robbery elementary shooter but was held back by police. >> he told me you stay the [bleep] back. i told him he is alr

>> right, garrett. on the ballot, but right now abortion is very much under threat here in the state. we've talked a lot today about the southern block of states. here in michigan, that zombie law that 1931 law, sort of laid dormant amp roe, but now could take effect again. it's a law that criminalizes abortion without exceptions, and the michigan state legislature is fighting to keep this law in place. look, michigan is a purple state. right? you've seen red states enacting trigger laws and blue states trying to fortify abortion rights in the wake of this expected ruling, but when you have these purple states, you've got a big battle here, because you have a democratic governor who's trying to protect these rights. state legislature fighting against them, and this is going to play out in the courts. it's going to play out in politics on the ballot in november, and right now the governor has sued to try to make this law ineffective, but the state legislature is fighting back. just yesterday some house l

garrett haake picks up with more news right now. right now ♪♪ >>> good morning, i'm garrett haake in washington. this hour, we should have been in the middle of another hearing by the january 6th committee. but now we will have to wait until tomorrow for that next hearing. but in the last hour, we did just get new video from the committee. you are seeing it there on your screen. it's been released as part of a letter from chairman bennie thompson to republican congressman barry louder milk of gentleman. thompson says the surveillance footage shows louder milk led a tour on january 5th. more on that in moments. >>> plus, new details about what we can expect to hear at the committee's next hearing tomorrow. a big focus. the pressure vice president mike pence faced to refuse to count lawful electoral votes. earlier on "morning joe," january 6th committee member adam schiff previewed the hearing and the seriousness of the committee's work. >> you can expect to see stuff you haven't seen before interwoven with things you have, but to

judy: garrett, do you have similar questions? garrett: i do. one of the things that really did stand out in the hearing today is the extent to which mike pence really investigated the claims from eastman, went through a listing tour to try to understand whether he had this power and what we now understand from the hring and the testimony is that it was soundly rejected by all of his aides, his leadership, and we also heard today, even calls from former speaker paul ryan two pce's office to say hey, micah knows he can't do this, right? judy: just picking up on that, ned foley, as garrett graff is saying, there was an effort on the part of the vice president to ask about the arguments being made to him. as if he wanted to be sure he understood what the choices were, if there was a choice. garrett: i think that's right. i think it is important to focus on two different parts of this. one part which was the primary focus of today's hearing was this idea that the vice president, as a single individual, could control the outcome. and again, it sounds

garrett haake is back with us on capitol hill. garrett? >> reporter: we're waiting for the next portion of this to get going, but as we've been covering this today, of course this is not the first mass shooting in this country, obviously, and it is not the first time that the house has tried to shine this kind of emotional light on this phenomenon. we try to use an oversight type hearing to push people forward on gun legislation. i want to bring in congresswoman veronica escobar who represents el paso. you had 23 killed, if i remember correctly, the judiciary committee is in the courtroom. we ask a lot of doctors and witnesses to give testimony. what do you think it is that actually moves the needle in legislation? >> garrett, thank you for this conversation. the problem with gun violence is that we have is to sanitized it over the years that i don't know if america, or even legislators, understand the carnage that comes with an ak-15 or ar-17 type rifle. that house judiciary committee hearing that you referenced, i asked one of our trauma

garrett, what can we expect to hear in the next hearing on thursday? >> reporter: well, lester, it will focus on what the committee says is mr. trump's effort to use the department of justice to overturn the election results with several top former doj officials set to testify. the committee hasn't announced anything beyond that. >> and, garrett, there is some movement on the senate's bipartisan gun bill. what can you tell us about that? >> reporter: that's right. the bill just introduced in the senate with the first procedural vote as early tonight and the final vote could come as early as this week. the big would intervent advise states to pass red flag laws and enhance background checks for gun buyers under 21 and close the so-called boyfriend loophole and increases funding for mental health care and is expected to draw enough republican votes to pass. >> lester. >> following a lot in washington. garrett, thanks. >>> an eye-opening hearing today at the state senate in texas where lawmakers heard shocking new details about the police response to the

garrett, welcome to democracy now! before we talk about the lessons learned and what today's committee could learn from the watergate hearings, which were -- shook this country, for those who weren't even born yet, can you tell us what the watergate scandal was all about? what happened 50 years ago on friday? >> as you said in the introduction, friday the 17th marks the 50thnnivsary of the watergate break-in, which in many ways is where america thinks the watergate story begins. what my book tries to do is pieced together all we have learned over the last 50 years in terms of new details and newly declassified and released investigative files. what we now really understand about watergate was that it was less an event and more i mindset that watergate burglary was the equivalent of america walking into the second for third pack of a play that had been underway for yearsat tt poin terge iseallybout this rk criminal,aranoid, conspiratori mindset that richard nixon brings to the white house. it permeates the upper ranks o

okay, garrett graff. his book has hit the new york times bestseller list twice in the last two weeks. so that's exciting. it's good to know that people are still reading 800 page history books. we maybe he will tell us how watergate measures up to today's political scandals. garrett graff a distinguished journalist and best-selling historian has spent more than a dozen years covering politics technology and national security. today he serves as the director of cyber initiatives for the aspen institute. and it's a contributor to wired cnn and politico. he's written for publications from esquire to rolling stone to the new york times. garrett graff is the author of multiple books including another new york times bestseller the only plane in the sky. please welcome mark thompson and garrett graff. well enough goth good afternoon everyone and good afternoon garrett. um, let's just begin. this book's called watergate a new history. why did the world need a new history you pretty much every put every single per

please welcome mark thompson and garrett graff. well enough goth good afternoon everyone and good afternoon garrett. um, let's just begin. this book's called watergate a new history. why did the world need a new history you pretty much every put every single person in this book. it seems not literally but rhoda might a memoir they've been lots and lots of of histories of every kind. so why why are new history? yeah, so it's it's a natural question and it's one that i this as you said is not the most obvious target for a big sweeping book except as it turns out it is and there was her two reasons that drew me to this as a topic i have spent the last five years as a journalist covering trump and russia and the mueller investigation and sort of all of the various aspects of that. and it made me interested in. last time that our nation confronted a moment like that in terms of how the institutions of american government responded to a a president and presidential abuses of power and sort of the controversies around that as well as sort

garrett haake is back with us from capitol hill. garrett, you were telling us before we witnessed this how difficult part of this testimony that we are going to hear was, and indeed, you were right. the pediatrician, the parents of

let's get late details from garrett haake >> reporter: the january 6 committee tonight laying out their case that former president trump attempted to force the department of justice to help him overturn the 2020 election, pressuring senior officials to make claims of widespread fraud that did not exist. >> president trump wanted department of justice to say the election was, quote, corrupt and, quote, leave the rest to me and the republican congressman. >> reporter: a quote supported by a witness's handwritten notes. l. trump weighed replacing the acting attorney general jeff rosen with a lower level official, an environmental lawyer named jeff clark, who had drafted a letter to key states falsely claiming the doj had found significant fraud there. >> when he finished discussing what he planned on doing, i said good [bleep]. sorry. congratulations, you just committed the first act as attorney general would be committing a felony, violating rule 6c. you're clearly the right candidate for this job. >> i made the point jeff clark is not competent to serve as attorney general, and i said th

>> reporter: garrett, we've been speaking to members of the community every day. as we arrive, people always come up to us and want to share their opinions when it comes to gun control and legislation. it's interesting because what we're hearing then is what we heard when we sat down with other members of the community and asked them specific questions. let me just say that it also resonates with the op-ed written by matthew mcconaughey. these are the same things that everyone keeps bringing up. they bring up the background checks, changing the age to be able to be able to buy a rifle. they bring up the red flag law. let's hear part of the conversation we had with one of the members of the community here. >> as long as we don't change these laws, this will happen again. we need the age limit to 21. yes, we need a background check, but also we need a 30-day waiting period so we can really understand why this person is buying these weapons. >> reporter: that was someone who lost his granddaughter in the shooting. he was sitting next to a retired navy captain, anothe

trump of leading an attempted coup garrett haake is at the capitol. >> reporter: in a made for television primetime production, the january 6th committee laid out their case that the deadly attack on the u.s. capitol was no spontaneous riot but the culmination of a months-long attempte coup with one man to blame. >> you're going to stand up. >> donald trump was at the center of this conspiracy, and ultimately donald trump, the president of the united states, spurred a mob of domestic enemies of the constitution to march down the capitol and subvert american democracy. >> reporter: and tonight former president trump responding after the committee played new video from depositions by his attorney general and other advisers, saying the told him he had lost >> i made it clear i did not agree with the idea of saying the election was stolen and putting out this stuff which i told the president was bull [ bleep ]. he can't live in a world where the incumbent administration stays in power based on its view unsupported by specific evidence that the election -- that there was fraud in the election.

garrett haake is at the capitol. garrett, this bipartisan bill breaks decades of congressional gridlock on guns. >> that's right, lester lawmakers in both parties hailed this as a significant breakthrough on an issue in which congress has traditionally failed to act despite enormous public pressure to do so. now, this bill centers around enhanced background checks for any would be gun buyers under 21. new resources for states to enact red flag laws and a $7 billion investment in mental health programs the senate acting first passing the bill late last night in an emotional vote as gun violence survivors and advocates looked on. 15 republicans joining all democrats in support house gop leader urged their members to oppose this bill which they said infringed on second amendment rights but 14 house republicans voted for it anyway, including the representatives of buffalo and uvalde tonight, lester, all that's left is for president biden to sign this bill into law. we expect to see that in coming days. >> garrett haake,

a contributing editor for "wired," garrett, the committee has held three hearings so far. you say that what we've learned is far more disturbing than even you expected. how so? >> i think what we have seen this was a plan, and this has been the committee's argument since the start of the hearings, this was a plan that was more carefully considered. it was multifaceted, and it was consistent. it was also a plan by the president to try to overturn the legitimate certified election results that he was told was wrong, that he was told consistently was illegal, that there was no standing for the officials to try to do the things that he wanted them to do, and that, nevertheless, he persisted. >> as we look ahead to next week, another big week for this committee, georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger is one of the election officials set to testify before the committee on tuesday. and you'll remember he's the official donald trump pressured to find enough voters to overturn joe biden's victory. remember this? >> so, look, all i want to do is this. i just want to find 11,7

>> garrett haake on capitol hill, thanks. a reminder, join us for live coverage of the january 6 hearings tonight at 8:00 p.m. here on nbc. >>> also tonight, we are following breaking news out of maryland. a deadly mass shooting at a business about 75 miles west of baltimore. the sheriff says responding officers found three people dead and one critically injured, the suspect after fleeing the scene engaged in a shootout on the road with a state trooper. both the suspect and the trooper were injured and transported to the hospital. the fbi and atf are assisting in that investigation. >>> in grand rapids, michigan, a murder charge against a police officer that shot and killed a motorist in a traffic stop. the killing in april led to angry protests in the city. kathy park has late details. >> stay in the car. >> reporter: tonight, grand rapids police officer christopher schurr, charged with murder for the shooting death of patrick lyoya after a traffic stop in april spiralled into a struggle. >> i made the decision to charge chr

garrett, a big day on the hill. i want to play video by a documentarian. it's his footage that will factor into his testimony when he is the first witness up tonight. >> freedom! >> i am not allowed to say what's going to happen today, because everyone is just going to have to watch for themselves. it's going to happen. something is going to happen. one way or the other. >> we have stormed the capitol! >> right on! >> garrett, you have been getting latest information leading up to tonight's hearing. what can you tell us? what surprises, what is new? >> the bottom line is that tonight's hearing is meant to be more like a courtroom opening argument and while the committee might hint at some of the new information, i don't expect there to be the huge bombshells tonight. i think we will see, as that video shows, new angles on what has been reported here. that video, i have watched all of it. it gets quite violent, quite up close and personal with the attack on police officers in particular that have been such a part of this. we will hear from caroline edwards,

let's bring in nbc news senior capitol hill correspondent garrett haake. garrett, a little bit more about what the hearings had to tell the american people yesterday. >> reporter: hey, mika. good morning, all of that testimony you've been describing was really in service of making a single point in this hearing. that donald trump lost the 2020 election and then his top staff and paid advisers, even his family members knew it. the chitty making the argument it was lie to the contrary that fueled the january 6 insurrection. in the second public hearing, the january 6 committee laying out its case that the former president was told repeatedly by his own advisers, his conspiracies about a stolen election were false. >> i was from a demoralize add, because i thought if he really believes this stuff, he has lost contact with -- with -- he's become detached from reality if he really believes this stuff. >> reporter: top trump campaign officials testifying after seeing the results come in, they tray tried and failed to stop the president from declaring victory on

so get more about what we're going to see, let's bring in garrett haake. nbc's senior capitol hill correspondent. garrett, take us through what we're going to hear today. >> well, joe, you talked about bill stepian who is super interesting and no idea of a secret rino republican. he's working for liz cheney's political opponent and lisa murkoyski in alaska. he could be a more effective witness to that constituency which is part of the appeal. the other person that i'm interest rated to hear from is stirewalt. he was the fox news political editor and in responsible for making that call on election night that fox made before anybody else that joe biden had won arizona. now the tv news nerd in me is particularly interested in this because the way these are supposed to work, they're sealed off and meant to be impervious to outside. he tried to change it and slow it down. what he has to say will be very important and then in the second panel, ben ginsburg, he's been the republican lawyer on vote counting issues on election issues going back to the second bush a

please welcome thompson and garrett draft. [applause] >> good afternoon and good afternoon garrett. let's begin. this book is called watergate a new history. why does the world need a new history?? every single person in this book it seems, not literally but wrote a memoir. there's been lots of histories of every kind so why a newhistory ? it's a natural question and it's one that these as you said it is not the most obvious target for a big sweeping book except as it turns out it is. and there were two reasons that drew me to this as a topic i've spent the last five years as a journalist covering trump and russia and the molar investigation and sort of all the various aspects of that . and it may be interested in the last time that our nation confronted a moment like that . in terms of how the institutions of american government responded to our president and presidential abuses of powerand sort of the controversies around that . as well as why washington worked then versus now. and then the second reason was that sort of what wants me on the project and then what ended up turning

garrett, what can you tell us about why they postponed the hearing? >> reporter: their video staff is just trying to keep up. committee member zoe lofgren told us this morning that that's what this comes down to, they're working on an greg sive schedule, trying to get all the video tape elements they need to tell the story cut and ready. and they think they're better off moving wednesday's hearing into next week. the plan is that thursday's hearing will focus on mike pence. the doj-focused hearing we're expecting thursday will appear at a date to be determined. >> speaking of congresswoman lost again, a member of the january 6th committee, she addressed reports about the divide over whether to issue criminal referrals. here is what she had to say. >> there is no such thing in law as a criminal referral, but we could send information to the doj. we could send them our opinion and we may do that. we're certainly not going to have that discussion until all the hearings are done and we see the evidence that has been compiled. there's no big fight going on

garrett tenney fills us in. hi, garrett. >> yeah, you mentioned that police officers were reportedly outside the classroom for mre than an hour waiting for a key to get inside. now we're learning the door may not have been locked. the metal frame doors are decided to lock automatically. now investigators believe the gunman couldn't have locked the door from the inside. video shows the gunman was able to open the door and walk in without a key suggesting there may have been a malfunction in the door looks at the school especially since the exterior door had also failed to lock automatically after a teacher closed it. the officers outside had no way of knowing that. video shows that they never checked to see if the door was locked, this comes as "the new york times" reports one of the first uvalde officers to arrive at the school had a split chance to shoot the gunman outside the school. he hesitated because there were children in the background that could have been hit if he missed. we're learning more about offi

lester >> garrett, thank you. >>> authorities say military aircraft crashed in glamis, california, a desert area in the southeast corner of the state. four people on the plane reportedly killed and one is missing. the plane crashed not far from el centro naval air station. >>> also here in california, th progressive district attorney of san francisco is out of a job. with crime rising, voters rejecting an approach that critics call soft on crime jake ward is there tonight. >> reporter: tonight, new fallout after a stunning defeat. voters in one of the most progressive cities in america removing their progressive district attorney from his job. >> people are right to be frustrated. there's so much room for improvement. >> reporter: chesa boudin was elected touting alternatives to prison, recalled in a landslide. facing criticism for being soft on crime. with san francisco struggling with rising homelessness, hate crimes and violence, his defeat a warning to other progressive prosecutors, like d.a. george gascon in l.a., facing a possible recall election of his own. and in new york, d.

garrett, you spoke with pete aguilar, who is taking a lead role today. what did he tell you about what we can expect? >> reporter: we can expect to hear that mike pence was both under more pressure and in more danger in the leadup to january 6th and on january 6th than has been previously reported. the committee plans to lay out the genesis of this scheme to make pence the de facto decider of the 2020 election that began in mid-december. that basically every court case the trump campaign lost, the pressure on pence to be the last option for trump grew and grew and grew. even leading up to the 6th itself with one final phone conversation between the vice president and the president, with president trump at the time leaning hard on pence on the morning of the 6th to make this unilateral decision to overturn the election results. then as he got here to the capitol and the crowd arrived, the mob coming closer to pence than we ever realized, triggered by a trump tweet after they had broken into the building. here's some of what aguilar told me about that mome

capitol police say they've reviewed these tapes and they don't see anything suspicious lester >> garrett, thank you. >>> a clearer picture emerging of the political cost for republicans who criticize president trump, especially over the outcome of the 2020 elections our vaughn hilliard with what the latest round of midterms tells us >> reporter: fallout tonight from donald trump's revenge tour, the ousting of a republican congressman in south carolina. >> tom rice joined the democrats deranged impeachment witch hunt hoax >> reporter: tom rice, one of ten republicans who voted to impeach donald trump after the january 6th insurrection and never wavering from his vote until his very last day on the campaign trail. >> the truth will set you free, and i think that donald trump is not the future of the republican party >> reporter: but that position costing him trump's endorsed candidate handily defeating rice >> today, donald trump won. >> reporter: in a different south carolina district, however, trump tried to purge republican nancy mace, but failed, notably unlike rice, she stopped critic

garrett haake is at the capitol with details. [ crowd chanting ] >> reporter: tonight the january 6th committee presenting new evidence of what was happening behind the scenes as the mob surged into the capitol. what they say is a culmination of a failed pressure campaign by former president trump designed to force mike pence to overturn the election results in newly revealed testimony close aides and advisers detailing a private phone call between the president and vice president the morning of the 6th. >> the conversation was pretty heated. >> i remember hearing the word wimp, either he called him a wimp -- i don't remember if he said you are a wimp. >> like you're not tough enough to make the call >> it was a different tone than i had heard him take with the vice president before >> do you remember what she said her father called him? >> the "p" word. >> reporter: pence relying on advice from his legal team stayed firm, even after coming within 40 feet of the rioters >> he resisted the pressure he knew it was illegal. he knew it was wrong we're fortunate for mr. pence's courage on

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garrett haake is covering the hearings. >> reporter: the january 6th committee's second hearing today hammering home a single message. donald trump lost the 2020 election, and he knew it. >> as a result of his loss decided to wage an attack on our democracy. and in doing so lit the fuse that led to the horrific violence of january 6th >> reporter: the committee relying on the taped testimony of top trump campaign staff who urged caution as election night returns showed joe biden winning. >> there were suggestions by, i believe it was mayor giuliani, to go and declare victory and say we had won it outright >> reporter: miller claiming giuliani was intoxicated. his attorney telling nbc news giuliani wasn't drinking at all. trump campaign manager bill stepien backing out of a planned live appearance this morning at the last minute after his wife went into labor. instead the committee played this videotape of stepien earlier saying he also disagreed with giuliani >> ballots were still going to be counted for days, and it was far too early to make any proclamations like that. >> reporter:

. >> i want to bring in nbc's ken dylanian, and garrett haake on the ill, and kevin kirshner. grads to see all of you have, look, glenn, let's talk about this letter. the doj is pretty adamant it needs the committee's cooperation. in fact, they called it critical. what is your take on this? why did they write the letter? >> chris, they're presenting the case to a grand jury. they even say in there there's undoubtedly lots of overlap between the witnesses being presented to the grand jury and the witnesses who have testified to the january 6th committee. what the federal prosecutors want to make sure they see is the entire university of the testimony of any witness. they may be prepared too ask a grand jury to return indictments against one or more individuals. the last thing they want is for a witness they're relying on to seek that indict to have potentially said something inconsistent in other sworn testimony that they gave before a congressional committee. i think the second reason is they are involved in prosecutions present by against oath keepers and proud boys, if they

. >> garrett haack, you were in the hearing room. you're outside of it now. look, all of us were caught off guard by how emotional he got. he strikes me as somebody that doesn't lead with emotion, which i think made it all the more powerful. >> i think that's right, chuck. this is part of the committee strategy. it always has been to try to have republican witnesses be the ones telling the story. that's part of what makes him effective here because as he laid out the idea that he wasn't open to what rudy is suggesting, he was. he was repeatedly saying, where is the evidence? what do you have? give me the names? give me something i can work with. he said at the beginning, he wanted donald trump to win. and time and time again with his eyes wide open not seeing that evidence provided, not seeing any evidence of fraud, he became disillusioned to the point where he felt he was being pushed to betray his oath. and i think that moment deserves hearing again, when bowers clearly gets pushed beyond what he's willing to do. listen to what he told the committee. >> any

garrett graff, he's distinguished author of the book raven rock the story of the us government's secret plan to save itself while the rest of us die. mr. graph will talk about past efforts of the united states government to preserve its continuity. dr. rebecca c lebow is the director of porzio governmental affairs. she's also author of the dissertation the passage of the 25th amendment nuclear anxiety and presidential continuity and several related articles. she will talk about the threat of nuclear weapons and the 1947 statute. finally ambassador a b culverhouse. he's the former white house council the president ronald reagan is currently co-chair of continent of government commission. ambassador called the house will discuss the perspective of a white house counsel. i'm presidential health and life succession matters. earlier panelists have discussed many of the important theoretical concerns about having lawmakers in the line of succession including the possibility of a partisan partisan control the white house changing hands that is to say that the will of the american voters from t

but first to garrett tenney with the back story. hi, garrett. >> this one night forever changed the life of this man and their young family. they're waiting for those responsible to be brought to justice, this video from the figi fraternity shows danny and other pledges shirtless and blind folded being led downstairs as part of a ritual where each pledge was supposed to finish an entire bottle of vodka. after several hours, you can see danny fall backwards. the 18-year-old freshman is left on a couch unresponsive. by the time his frat brothers take him to the hospital, it's too late. he's in cardiac arrest. his blood level is more nan five times the legal limit and he's suffered brain damage. the family has filed a lawsuit after the university and the fraternity. eight months later, there are growing concerns and frustrations with the criminal prosecution. earlier this month, the boone county prosecutor's office disregarded investigators suggestion that there was enough evidence to charge one of the flat's leaders with hazing, punis

garrett, thanks. the house committee investigating last year's capitol riot is looking into then president trump's efforts before january 6th to persuade states to decertify a biden victory and to send in alternative electors to vote for trump. congressional correspondent chad pergram is on capitol hill tonight with the latest. >> the plan was to bully state legislatures in to sending in electors for mr. trump even if the numbers didn't add up. >> the numbers are the numbers. the numbers don't lie. >> i didn't want to be used as a pawn. >> rusty bowers supported president trump but told the committee the president leaned on him to send alternate electors to washington. >> you are asking me to do something against my oath. and i will not break my oath. >> bowers said dozen of dead people and illegal immigrants voted it wasn't true. >> we have lots of theories, we just don't have the evidence. >> the trump campaign stoked efforts by trump supporters. the committee showed evidence it shed said of the qan

that emotion could matter. >> thank you, garrett. we'll go to uvalde later in the show. >>> in the first primetime hearing thursday,ali vitali is on collection, and ana palmer, punchlocal news founder, and msnbc contributor. ali, more witnesses have been interviewed by the panel ahead of this primetime hearing set to happen thursday night. >> more witnesses interviewed by the panel, giving us more inside, then go into primetime. now finally on thursday, that moment is here. we're learning from politico that they have talked with the head of the secret service detail for former president donald trump that day, again lending insight into the committee is focused on what the former president was doing and in the critical hours while the capitol was under siege. based on the witness list that we know of this point, we know there will be a documentary filmmaker who was embedded at that point with the proud boys at the capitol. we'll also hear a capitol policewoman who was injured that day. officers tell me they remember her calling out on

the time line is quite something from our correspondent garrett tenney. hi, garrett. >> we're learning a lot from this special hearing with state lawmakers today. the timeline was laid out that investigators pieced out using body camera and dispatch audio from may 24. a video obtained by local media shows that three minutes after the gunman went inside, at least seven officers were in the building and at least two of them had rifles. at this point the gunmen had just fired off more than 100 rounds from inside the classroom. it would have been more than reasonable to assume children were in there. but for reasons that are not entirely clear, the on-scene commander of the uvalde school district said the gunman was in an office and he needed more firepower and shields before officers could move in to take the shooter out. nearly 30 minutes later, a little girl inside one of the classrooms called 911 begging for help. it wasn't until more than an hour later that arrandodo gave the order to move in, a decision that may have cold lives. >> there's a reason you

. >> i would love to bring in garrett haake. i don't know if you had an opportunity it talk to sources about this. i know you have been stretched today. we have new reaction. president biden in a statement just out in the last five minutes says he is deeply disappointed by this supreme court ruling. you can see it on your screen. he goes on to say, more than a century late he the supreme court has chosen to strike down new york's long established authority to protect its citizens. he says that contradicts common sense and the constitution and should trouble us all. we heard from the attorney general in new york who is pledging to protect new yorkers after this ruling. any minute, we are expecting to hear from new york city mayor eric adams who has said that if the supreme court did what it did today and rule against new york in this decision, it would be in his view a real mess. it's something he said keeps him up at night. you can see the microphone where we will hear from the new york mayor shortly. garrett, give us the perspe

governor hutchinson talked about it, but garrett brought up a point, is that going to survive? >> this is going to work its way out. i would say everybody here, i think, agrees that when polled, the american people say they're for roe, they're for the right of abortion as seen in the constitution, but the minute you get beyond that, to questions of the cutoff. is it 12 weeks or 14? then, then support goes down. it all becomes more complicated. the fact was, i think legally, r oxide -- roe and casey were just sort of incompatible with getting all of those reservations worked out in the law, so i think that is part of what drove it. but the republican party, you know what they should do now? use the victory, if you see it that way, to change itself and become a party that helps women and children, and it becomes responsible and supportive. >> we're here because donald trump and got together for a litmus test for overturning roe as a nominee. sandra day o'connor, did not have it, anthony kennedy it not have it. the republicans from the top set the tone. >> i'm going to give you gu

garrett, you were able to talk to congressman kinzinger. what did he tell you? >> reporter: this hearing is going to go back and examine this pressure campaign at doj as you were outlining was broadly about trying to get the department of justice to investigate or at least say it was investigating donald trump's claims of voter fraud. then it was about a specific effort to remove leadership and replace them with folks who might be more pliant and more willing to do so when that first effort failed. we'll see that broadly laid out here. we'll probably hear the name, scott perry, the republican congressman, who was teased in one of these first hearings who asked for a pardon. we know he was involved in the behind the scenes doj effort. that will be the picture the committee tries to paint today. >> shawn, it's very clearly that if people like jeffrey rosen, richard donaghue and richard engel had not stood up to trump, things may have been different? >> oh, absolutely. and i think one of the real effective aspects of having them testify is that it may actually give

garrett, i know you spoke exclusively with the member leading today's hearing democratic congressman pete aguilar of california. tell us what he told you and also i'd be interested in your insights as to why a group was allowed on a tour of the capitol on january 5th where it was obviously closed to the public because of covid. >> well on the tour, the capitol has been closed for quite a long time and there were very few people up here during that period. it wasn't unusual to see members leading off the books tours in parts of the capitol or in parts of the office buildings. but the pikes you just showed, particularly one where the gentleman is taking a picture at a security checkpoint, to me spending too much of my life in those tunnels, that is the one that is hardest to explain. on the the investigation front, obviously the committee knows who this person was to be able to link both of them appearing in the tunnel and then appearing in that video outside the capitol and outside of the ellipse on the day of the attack. so i do think that is a potential next step if the committee wa

fox's garrett tenney has the latest on that investigation. this is going to fall and we hit the point of no return. passengers in monday's deadly amtrak crash recalled the bravery of those on board, saying their quick thinking saved dozens of lives. gentlemen that stepped up and me stack the cushions and these crates on top of each other, knocked the window out and pull this up to the top of the train. the train was traveling from los angeles to chicago when it struck a dump truck here in mendon, missouri. the railcars tumbled off the tracks falling onto their sides. at least three people are dead, including the driver of the truck. dozens more were injured. officials working to determine why the truck was on the tracks. it's an uncontrolled across buck intersection on a gravel road, so no lies no electronic control devices, amtrak says more than 240 passengers and crew members were on board at the time, the national transportation safety board launch an investigation into the incident in a 14 member team is on scene today. mike spencer farms