jacob, when dr. eastman wrote once he gets something in h( change course, did you understand him that he, in that e-mail, to refer to the president of the united states. >> i did. and mr. jacob, did you hear from dr. eastman further after the riot had been quelled and if so, what did he ask? >> late that evening, after the joint session had been row convened, the vice president had given the statement to the nation saying violence was not going to win, freedom wins. and that the people were going to get back to doing their work. later that evening, mr. eastman e-mailed me to point out that in his view, the vice president's speech to the nation violated the electoral count act. that the electoral count act had been violated because debate on arizona had not been completed in two hours. of course, it couldn't be since there was an intervening riot of several hours. and that the speeches that the majority of minority leaders had been allowed to make also violated the electoral count act because they had

jacob, when dr. eastman wrote, when he gets something in his head it's hard to get up to change course, did you understand the he in that email to refer to the president of the united states? >> i did. >> mr. jacob, did you hear from mr. eastman further, after the riot had been quelled? if so, what did he ask? >> late that evening, after the joint session had been reconvened, the vice president had given a statement to the nation saying that violence was not going to win, freedom winds. and that the people were going to get back to doing their work. later that evening, mr. eastman emailed me to point out that, in his view, the vice presidents speech to the nation violated the electoral count act. that the electoral count act have been violated because the debate on arizona had not been completed in two hours. of course, it couldn't be, since there was an intervening riot of several hours. the speeches that the majority and minority leaders had been allowed to make also violated the electoral count ac

jacob, when dr. eastman wrote, when he gets something in his head it's hard to get up to change course, did you understand the he in that email to refer to the president of the united states? >> i did. >> mr. jacob, did you hear from mr. eastman further, after the riot had been quelled? if so, what did he ask? >> late that evening, after the joint session had been reconvened, the vice president had given a statement to the nation saying that violence was not going to win, freedom winds. and that the people were going to get back to doing their work. later that evening, mr. eastman emailed me to point out that, in his view, the vice presidents speech to the nation violated the electoral count act. that the electoral count act have been violated because the debate on arizona had not been completed in two hours. of course, it couldn't be, since there was an intervening riot of several hours. the speeches that the majority and minority leaders had been allowed to make also violated the electoral count ac

jacob, did dr. eastman say whether he would want other vice presidents such as outdoor, after the 2000 election, or kamala harris, after the 2024 election, to have the power to decide the outcome of the election? >> so, that's why it's one of the many points that we discussed on january 5th. he had come into that meeting trying to persuade us that there was some validity to his theory, i viewed it as my objective to persuade him to acknowledge that he was just wrong. i, thought this had to be one of the most powerful arguments. john, back in 2000, you weren't jumping up and saying how gore had this authority to do that. you wouldn't want kamala harris to be able to exercise that kind of authority in 2024 when, i hope, republicans will win the election, and i know you have that too, john. he said, absolutely. i would or did not have a basis to do it in 2000. kamala harris shouldn't be able to do it in 2024. but i think you should do it today. >> marc short told the select committee that vice presiden

jacobs. we will hear more today about how this fight this the conclusion by you and other top legal advisers, the former president used this discredited theory in his campaign to pressure the vice president to decide the outcome of the presidential election. i now recognize the gentlewoman from wyoming, miss cheney for, questions. >> thank you very much, mister chairman. judge looted, thank you for being here as well with us today. you issued a very important statement earlier today. which i urge all americans to read. i'd like to ask you, judge, about one of the sentences in your statement. and ask if you can explain to us the significance of it. you say, had the vice president of the united states obeyed the president of the united states, america would immediately had been plunged into what would have been tantamount to a revolution within a paralyzing constitutional crisis. could you elaborate on us, judge? >> thank you, madam vice chairman. that passage in my statement this morning refer

jacob. he even goes to former vice president dan quail and says do i have this right? they say no. the reason mark short is concerned is because pence and trump have a series of meetings, and trump keeps telling pence, you got to do this. and pence says no, i'm not going to do it. and now mark short is worried that trump is going to as he did on january 6th, come out publicly against pence, and that's why he goes to pence's security -- secret service head of detail and says, we have to worry about this security of the vice president. >> which was smart on his part. >> right. and this is about interfering with lawful actions of the government, right? and the legal folks on the panel can talk about that. but i know it's not sexy, but it's important. this electoral count act. because this was such a place of vulnerability. this shopping around of lawyers to say hey, what actually should be the rules? what are not? now people are saying there are aspects of it that maybe are not constitutional.

and eastman directly ask jacob, -- asked jacob, we need pence to reject the electors. later on in the day, because it became clear to eastman that pence was not going to do that and was refusing to go along with this plan, eastman again asked pence's team, trying to convince them another way. if you don't want to reject the electors, will you simply send the electors back to the state, so that way they can send new ones to congress? again, pence's team refused all of this. the big take away here is after these repeated attempts in the days -- the day right before january 6, president trump, still on january 6, launched a very public pressure campaign for pence to go forward with this plan. judy: and then, lisa, we get to january 6. we learn new details today about what exactly happened that day, to the vice president himself. lisa: that's right. the pressure campaign laura was talking about happening at the white house happened leading up to january 6 and what happened at the capitol. what the committee laid out today in terms of what happened january 6 speaks to presi

jacobs. we will hear more today about how this fight this the conclusion by you and other top legal advisers, the former president used this discredited theory in his campaign to pressure the vice president to decide the outcome of the presidential election. i now recognize the gentlewoman from wyoming, miss cheney for, questions. >> thank you very much, mister chairman. judge looted, thank you for being here as well with us today. you issued a very important statement earlier today. which i urge all americans to read. i'd like to ask you, judge, about one of the sentences in your statement. and ask if you can explain to us the significance of it. you say, had the vice president of the united states obeyed the president of the united states, america would immediately had been plunged into what would have been tantamount to a revolution within a paralyzing constitutional crisis. could you elaborate on us, judge? >> thank you, madam vice chairman. that passage in my statement this morning refer

jacobs. we will hear more today about how, despite this conclusion from you another top legal advisers, the former president used this theory in his campaign to pressure the vice president to decide the outcome of the presidential election. i know recognize -- cheney for questioning. >> thank you so much, and thank you so much for being here today. you have issued a very important statement earlier today. which i urge all americans to read. and i would like to ask you, judge, about one of the sentences in your statement, and ask if you could explain to us the significance of it. you say, and the vice president of the united states obeyed the president of the united states, america would immediately have been plunged into a could have been tantamount to a revolution within a paralyzing constitutional crisis. could you elaborate on that for us, judge? >> thank you madam vice chairman. that passage in my statement this morning referenced the the most foundational concept in america, which is the

jacob. we will hear more today about how despite this conclusion by you and other top legal advisers, the former president used this discredited theory in his campaign to pressure the vice president to decide the outcome of the presidential election. i now recognize ms. cheney for questions. >> thank you very much. judge ludig, thank you as well for being with us today. you issued a very important statement earlier today which i urge all americans to read, and i would like to ask you, judge, about one of the sentences in your statement and ask if you could explain to us the significance of it. you say, had the vice president of the united states obeyed the president of the united states, america would immediately have been plunged into what would have been tantamount to a revolution to a paralyzing constitutional crisis. could you elaborate on that for us, judge? >> thank you, madam vice chair. that passage in my statement this morning referenced the most foundational concept in america whic

[applause] >> thank you, jacob. i would now like to introduce monica hernandez, deputy director for housing community development. >> thank you. hi everyone. i love to see all these smiling faces. on behalf of governor gavin newsome and the california department of housing and community development, it's my pleasure to congratulate all of you and be here in celebration. this is a momentous occasion. it's mott just historic. it is a testament to the city of san francisco. leaders across san francisco. tndc, the mayor's office, to it all of you and a testament to the love for this community. and, it's a testament to partnership. partnership with city and state and the california housing accelerator which jacob mentioned. i'm going to tell you a little bit about that. we have been facing four decades of housing crisis and we were looking at about $3 billion of backlog in permit and shovel ready projects just sitting there that would have left projects like 180 jones in limbo. gavin newsome responding to our urgent need

perhaps the former president, jacob zoom i and anybody else who might be involved to on. so for these alleged crimes, and also i think the messaging from the government potentially and the national prosecuting authority could be on point in terms of showing south africans that were ready to do something about corruption. and that's certainly how president obama was a, has positioned himself, that he's anti corruption, that he's going to clean up government. and that africa will potentially have a better future in terms of restoring government integrity, supporting development. and essentially, just making this a workable state and creating governance that works better for south africans and, and, and perhaps to optimistically. so the africans leaning on this potential extradition and court appearance and trial of the group 2 brothers to restore their faith in the government. the convention i'm thinking about how deep does corruption in south africa go beyond form a present jacob, same beyond the go to brothers, and does it spread all the way through the current government

jacob. what would have happened to our democracy if vice president pence had gone along with this plan and certified donald trump as a winner of the 2020 election? >> so there would have been short term and long-term effects. short term i previously described a constitutional jump ball situation, political chaos in washington, lawsuits and who knows what happens in the streets and you would have had the vice president declared that the outcomes of these state elections were incorrect. so for all of those reasons there would have been significant short term consequences. but in the long-term, we would have established a situation where a vice president would have asserted that one person could have the authority to determine the outcome of an election, which is antithetical to everything in our democracy. it's antithetical to the rule of law. so it would have been significant impacts both in the short and the long-term. >> in the statement that you released earlier today, you said the efforts

jacob zima is about to be released to business men who were implicated in that scandal who fled to the united arab emirates. they're about to be extradited. does that mean that finally south africa is able to grapple with its corruption problems? that is our conversation for today you want to be part of it. is right here. join our discussion. ah, how can we bring young boy to talk about this conversation? it's such a tricky one to have from lonnie covey chef anita. thank you so much. you do appreciate you. but milanni, please say hello to our audience. tell them who you are, what you day. hello everyone. i'm. i am in economics and politics commentator in south africa. i write for various news outlets. so yes, what i do in the media and comment on current affairs give an important be a voice, and that's why i'm here. nice savvy, kevin shall welcome to the stream. please hello to audience around the well, tell them who you are and what you day. hi everyone. i'm kemesha kelly. i am the head of stakeholder relations and campaigns act in non profit organization called correction. watching j

it is an investigation into how billions of dollars was stolen during the presidency of president jacob zima. meanwhile, in the united arab emirates, to businessmen who are implicated in the scandal have been arrested, they are waiting to be extradited. does this mean that south africa is ready to face full on it's corruption issues? that is the conversation we're about to have to day on youtube. the comment section is right here, waiting for you to be part of today's shad. ah, how can we bring young boy to talk about this conversation? it's such a tricky one to have from lonnie covey chef anita. thank you so much. you do appreciate you from lonnie, please say hello to our audience. tell them who you are, what you do. hello everyone. i am an economics and politics commentator in south africa. i write for various news outlets. so yes is what i do in the media and comment on current affairs given important voice. and that's why i'm here. nice savvy kevin shall welcome to the stream lisa, hello to our audience around the well, tell them who you are and what you do. hi everyone. i'm kemesha

that's the person who we heard from greg jacob today, never wavered. from the first moment that mike pence raised this question of what happened on january 6th, his aides said mike pence believed that he had no choice just like al gore had no choice. and he never wavered in that. jacob said in this video, he was a steely and determined when he came out of that phone call with the president on january 6th. i wish he was steely and determined on december 6th, when he could've said the vice president has no choice. and so, this drama, this tragedy, it was so much a product of mike pence's deliberate cowardly silence for one full month, never telling the country, ever, that the vice president had no choice. and he chose to tell the country that at 1 pm, on january 6th, when that guy with the beard, was on his way to the capital. and on his way to the capitol, that guy finds out that mike pence just now, betrayed us. would that guy have gone to the capitol, would he would have gone to washington, if mike pence said, a month ago, nothing can happen on januar

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that's the case that greg jacob was making. we expect him to flesh that out in this hearing later today. >> jim, i think this hearing puts a spotlight on people that the average american doesn't hear much about. john eastman, even mark schwart, who were driving the decision making here. as someone who knows about internal debates inside a white house, how do you read what unfolded inside the trump administration in those weeks? >> chaos. just unbelievable fighting between the president and the vice president about serious constitutional issues. and to the earlier point, one of the things cited today is judge ludig, who is a hero of the american conservative movement. he was absolutely opposed to this. helped draft this memo. we were worried he would be named to the supreme court. and i spent a year going after him because he's such a conservative. but he too helped fight this eastman idea. in the middle of this, you have a president who was unhinged, talking about hanging his sitting vice president. we have just never seen thes

thank you mr. jacobs. we will hear more today about how, despite this conclusion, by you and other top legal advisors, the former president use this discredited beard and his campaign to pressure the vice president to decide the outcome of the presidential election. and now recognized the gentlewoman from wyoming. this chain of questions. thank you very much mister chairman. gentle loaded. thank you as well for being here with us today . m u m. i issued a very important statement earlier today, which i urge all americans to read. and i'd like to ask you judge about one of the sentences in your statement and ask if you could explain to us the significance of it. you say had the vice president of the united states obeyed the president of the united states. america would immediately have been plunged into what would have been tantamount to a revolution within a paralyzing constitutional crisis. could you elaborate on that for us? judge? thank you room. madam wise chair. mm hm. that that passage in my statemen

jacob, when dr. eastman wrote once he gets something in his head, it's hard to get him to change course, did you understand the he in that e-mail to refer to the president of the united states? >> i did. >> and mr. jacob, did you hear from dr. eastman further after the riot has been quelled and if so, what did he ask? >> late that evening after the joint session had been reconvened, the vice president had given the statement to the nation saying that violence was not going to win, freedom wins. and that the people were going to get back to doing their work. later that evening, mr. eastman e-mailed me to point out that in his view, the vice president's speech to the nation violated the electoral count act but the electoral count act had been violated because the debate in arizona had not been completed in two hours. that it couldn't be because there was an intervening riot of several hours and that the speeches that the majority of minority leaders also violated the electoral count act because they ha

and women by russian soldiers to wealthy brothers with close links to former south african president, jacob zoom up, have been detained in dubai. and a make or break moment. millions of students in china take the national university entrance exam on the pandemic restrictions. ah, the u. k. prime minister says it's time to draw a line of questions about his leadership. a move on or as johnston survived, a conflict spoke within his own party on monday, calling the outcome a convincing and decisive result. but the scale of the rebellion has raised questions about his future. 211 conservative m. p. 's voted to support johnson. while 148 voted against him, that means that 40 percent of the prime minister's colleagues refused to back him out as he was poor brennan reports now from london. a victory for the prime minister, but far from convincingly the vote in favor of having confidence embarrassed constantly. it was $211.00 folks and a vote against was a $148.00 votes. and therefore, i can announce the parliamentary party does have ah, a raucous reaction from boris johnson, supporters with no dis

jacob, what happened when she got to the school. how did you get in? >> i was trying to get to my wife's room my wife has been working there for seven, going on eight years and i know the majority of the law enforcement there so i just announced who i was and made my way towards my wife's room. >> laura: what did you see when you went in? >> i just saw a bunch of kids running out, running off campus jumping through the windows, cops breaking the windows. complete chaos pretty much. >> and you saw your daughter an i know you gave her a big hug. >> yes, i had spoken with my wife on the phone, my wife said that she had already left her room, she was across and then from that point on i went and looked for my daughter. >> on cnn today, a secret service agent was on talking about this issue. watch. >> and off-duty custom and border patrol agent was able to go inside the school on the dat of the shooting. other parents in other loved ones were standing outside the school at the time, some of the even reportedly being handcuffed . >> this is a clear example o

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jacob. i have a question for you. ah, i believe during your deposition before this committee you said something to the effect of, you'd read at every word written about the 12th amendment, the electoral count, act in historical practice. i know in response to the chairman's earlier question, you gave your bottom line conclusion. but can you tell us a little bit about the process that you and your colleagues went through of researching this issue and what conclusion you came to after you're thorough research? so mean you the, as a lawyer who's analyzing a constitutional provision, you start with the constitutional text. you go to structure, you go to history. so we started with the text and we did not think that the text was quite as unambiguous as judge dudek indicated. in part, we had a constitutional crisis in 1876 because in that year multiple slates of electors were certified by multiple slates. and when it came time to count those votes, the antecedent question of which ones had to be answered. that required the

very much linked to former president jacob summa. this is part of a broader fight against corruption in south africa, should we expect for the high profile a rushed what certainly, what many of africans are expecting, and that's also been the line of the current president, rama poyser. he has said that he is fighting corruption and that if during the presidency of the, of jacob zoom or during those 9 years, at least $500000000000.00 sub african ran around $32000000000.00 was lost looted, stolen of by, through corruption, afford man, administration, and it's very much affected state entities that deal with the provision of power transport as well as the state owned manufacturing entity, danelle lee issues around corruption and demand administration of africa's one that has affected the economy very badly. if we go back to some of the allegations against the group, as in particular and their relationship with the former prison, jacob zoom up at one point, there were allegations that they influenced the appointment of the finance minist

arthel: jacob will testify this thursday. i want to read a part of this memo from greg jacob, it says, quote, in a 3-page documentary attorney greg jacob concluded that if pence were to embrace trump's demand that he single handily block or delay the counting of electoral votes on january 6th, he would be breaking multiple provisions of the electoral count act. the law that has governed the transfer of power since 1887, such a move jacob concluded would shortly failed in court or worst he said the courts would refuse to get involved and leave america in an unprecedented political crisis. 13 million watched prime time hearings and 80 million watched the compilation video online and also as you know just setting this up for our audience here, liz cheney, adam kissinger, only two house republicans to serve on this committee, of course, they are now considered party, party political pariahs. so is it a mistake to undertake and why wouldn't lawmakers want in on how it came to be that they stormed capitol building? >> 20 million wa

jacob,b, how is your daughter doing and how isis y your wife doing? my daughter's fine for the most part. she's she still she still has friends that have passed. my wife is the one that's really affected because she was. right there by the shooter. the shooter bypassed her room and shot up the rooms on the opposite side and my wife lost some ofme her girlfriends fromr jacob. if i had been you and i had gotten the same call, i would have done the exact same thing that you did. probably notobab as well as you did. but i wouldit have done the exat same thing that you did. and i'm i'm i'm thankfulat that you ran into be other that building. maybe other parents could have could havehelped should have put on everything. but i'm thankful that you ran and did what you could and our strong are just so and fervent for the entire community and we just i mean, there are no words but pleaseea extend our our concern and our prayers to your wife and to all those around. and thank you for your work for the border patrol as well. already. thank you . up next , joe bid

jacob, how did vice president pence and mrs. pence react to that? >> with frustration. >> reporter: even after the attack, after the mob was cleared from the capitol building, trump and his allies kept the pressure on pence. shortly before he was to certify the election, john eastman, a lawyer advising trump, emailed the vice president's counsel, saying it wasn't too late for pence to change his mind. >> what was vice president pence's reaction where you showed him the email where dr. eastman, after the attack on the capitol, still asked what the vice president delay certification and send it back to the states? >> he said, "that's rubber room stuff." >> what did you interpret that to mean? >> that that was certifiably crazy. >> reporter: mr. jacob testified that the vice president was never going to go along with trump's scheme. >> the vice president's first instinct when he heard this theory was that there was no way that or framers, who abhorred concentrated power, who had broken away from the tyranny of george iii, would never have put one perso

so i eyes focus when the tone sounds, it means that e mail a jacob is in what's known as a flow state. it's the same in which his body can perform optimally when furthest over or you feel at one with yourself or in that state. you can just listen to yourself and your own body awful and couple horse and word or even the jacob is pushing himself to new heights with neuro feedback. training. nicholas hoist the uses electrodes to evaluate a jacob's mental state. ideally he'll be mentally focused, yet physically relaxed at the starting line. as his immediate here, we can see amy's brain activating and you know, you can clearly see his brain activity. i just as is what we want is for him to be in the optimal mental status, which is called flow and kind of the dental of his best friend started his image from that we can see here that he's almost there also that sometimes he comes out of it and the tone stop sounding. now we're just going to give it a try. on your market get set. a jacob runs the 400 meter hurtles and dreams of going to the olympics. nicholas hose that says athletes can use n

you know greg jacob. you work for the vice president. all these people knew the scheme was happening and that it was illegal. why didn't they speak up at the time? >> you know, i got to say, as someone who was very outspoken prior to this day, yeah, it makes you wonder. all of the people knew and why didn't they come forward? for the sake of greg jacob. he has tremendous integrity. he was one of my closest colleagues on the staff. he showed that integrity on a daily basis. i'm grateful that someone was there at this moment to help mike pence navigate the situation. imagine what would have happened if someone like greg jacob wasn't there. if someone wasn't there to push back on the people. that's why the service of these people does matter in the moment. imagine what would have happened if it was eastman, instead, enabling the whole process and not holding the line. i think you're hearing their voices now. i think the hearings are critically important because of that. i think americans out there, they need to hear from the people who were

i cy, i'll focus when the tone sounds, it means that amy la jacob is in what's known as a flow state. it's the state in which his body can perform optimally. when furthest over or, and you feel at one with yourself in that state, you can just listen to yourself and your own body buffle and couple horse, and we're the e mail. the jacob is pushing himself to new heights with neuro feedback. training. nicholas hoist the uses electrodes to evaluate a jacob's mental state. ideally, he'll be mentally focused, yet physically relaxed at the starting line. as his immediate here, we can see amy's brain activating like you can clearly see his brain activity i just as is what we want is for him to be in the optimal mental status, which is called flow. and kennedy, dental of his best friend start using on this. we can see here that he's almost there also that sometimes he comes out of it and the tone stop sounding. now, we're just going to give it a try on your market get set. a jacob runs the 400 meter hurtles and dreams of going to the olympics. nicholas hose that says, athletes can use neuro fe