mark: he didn't make it. braden: he didn't make it. mark: what happened then? braden: i know the medic was pretty upset, 'cause he kinda--he could-- he knew what had happened. mark: what sort ofiscussion was had about it, if any? braden: he was just saying that the man was--he was fine. there's no way he would've died, and he knew that the soldier had killed him. that was basically it. mark: villagers have told four corners that they heard haji sardar crying out and later found him dead with severe bruising around the chest. the afghan investigation found he'd been beaten to death. mark: what if i told you that there was a later defence inquiry into that killing and they found that that killing was totally justifiable? what's your response to that? braden: i'd say that someone's lied giving evidence, 'cause there's no way that you can justify an execution. mark: do you believe there was a culture of covering these things up? it's not just the incident, but it's the cover-up. is there cover-up? braden: yeah, definitely. when you're back at the unit, people would

briefly stepped into mark's office and when mark had said something to the effect of he doesn't think they're doing anything wrong, knowing what i had heard briefly in the dining room, coupled with pat discussing the hang mike pence chants in the lobby of our office and then mark's response, i understood there to be the rioters in the capitol that were chanting for the vice president to be hung. >> let me pause here on this point. rioters chanted hang mike pence, the president of the united states, donald trump, said that quote, mike deserves it. and that those rioters were not doing anything wrong. this is a sentiment that he has expressed at other times as well. in an interview with abc news correspondent, jonathan carl, president trump was asked about the supporters chanting hang mike pence last year. instead of condemning them, the former president defended them. >> hang mike pence -- >> it's common sense, it's common sense that you're supposed to protect -- how can you, if you know a vote is fraudulent, how can you pass on a fraudulent vote to congress? >> president trump's view

♪ mark: welcome to live in paris, world news and analysis from france 24. i am mark owen. russian troops are closing in on their main objective in the donbas, and a chemical plant is hit. the mayor warns residents who are still in the all but flattened city to stay indoors, reassuring them that reinforcements are on the way from the u.s. and germany to boost ukrainian resistance. hollywood actor johnny depp, defamed by his ex-wife over allegations of domestic violence. a court awards damages to him of $15 million, but the jury in virginia finds partially in favor of his ex-wife amber heard, damages to her of $2 million. and, god save the queen. the u.k. it's ready to mark the platinum jubilee of queen elizabeth the second. pump, circumstance and many, many street parties. this is "live from paris." ♪ mark: thank you very much for being with us but significant developments in ukraine and the supply of arms on this, day 98 of the russian invasion. we started the donbas in eastern ukraine where russian troops and separatist fighters are closing in on the city of donetsk. a

we need to be doing something more, briefly stepped into mark's office and when mark had said something -- when mark said something to the effect of, he doesn't think they're doing anything wrong, knowing what i had heard briefly in the dining room, coupled with pat discussing the "hang mike pence" chants in the lobby of our office and then mark's response, i understand them to be the rioters in the capitol that were chanting for the vice president to be hung. >> harry litman, all of this testimony now in the record of donald trump's enthusiasm for a death threat against his own vice president. i mean, it's a crime to threaten the president or the vice president. you've now got a president celebrating a pledge to hang his own number two. what is the exposure on that? >> in a day of huge fireworks, nicole, i think this was one of the two or three most incendiary. it was -- it's almost like a law school exam. i counted six new crimes potentially. yes, this is one. also, the obstruction. also, the destruction of property. but look, to date, the inquiry has all been, is he aware of the viol

text messages sent to mark meadows during the attack. the president needs to tell people at the capitol to go home. the next message, this is hurting all of us and then he is destroying his legacy and playing into every stereotype and we lose all credibility against the blm and ansi live craft if things go south. the president's son don jr. urgently contacted mark meadows. he wrote, he has to condemn this shit asap. these are two examples of truck supporters and allies urging the president to tell his supporters to leave the capital. it will not -- would not have been hard for the president to walk down to be meeting room. a reporter -- but harvey said he believed the attack was -- mccarthy said he believed the attack was -- >> i condemned the violence in the capital. what we are watching unfold is on america. i am disappointed and sad. this is out of the country should look like. this is not -- the first amendment. >> the cameras are higher 24/7. why has that he walked out and said that now? >> conveyed to the president what i think is

mark shields was 85 years old. here with more remembrances of mark r two peoplwho knew him well, his daughter, amy, and david brooks of the new york times, who was mark's sparring partner on friday nights for nearly 20 years. thank you. i was lucky to know your family. amy: my whole life. judy: your dad, we knew the private mark shields. amy: he is very similar, that is the most interesting thing. who he was on television and who he was walking around the office was the same person. he was a warm, loving, hilarious, charming person. he always made us laugh. he loved games, sports. he made up games. my kids joked he would made up -- makeup games. he might turn themselves -- turn them toward himself. judy: it is clear he loved politics, politicians. where do you think that came from? amy: his parents. they really believed in politics as a way to solve problems. they believed in public service. i never met my grandfather, but he was on the school board, work at a paper company. i think he grew up knowing that was very

mark: well. judy: you're not supposed to say that, mark. and stayed civil, whether with us at the newshour or at cnn's capital gang, where he debated the late robert novak, alongside a good friend, my husband, al hunt. >> he is interested in a lot of things but those things he's really interested in, politics and family and faith and sports, he gets deeply engaged. he's not a passive observer. we don't need passive observers for things that matter. sports matters. reporter: that love of sports even inspired a shields and brooks spinoff. >> it was the newsroom, very casual, no scripts, no notes. they sat down and riffed. >> this is where we talk about the sports of politics and politics of sport. >> he could drop the velvet hammer on just about anything, not just politics. >> that's typical of you. you like everything except america. i like american sports. basketball. reporter: through the decades, he guided us through elections and presidencies, always with an enduring optimism about public service. >> i don't know, in a nation as big and

he shook his head and open mark's and stood there at the door open and mark was sitting on his phone and i remember tax same to him something to the affect of the rioters have got into the capital and we need to go seehe president now and mark looked up and said he doesn't want to do anything and pat saidomething to the effect of and very clearly said said this to mark -- mark, something needs to be done or people -- are going to die in the blood will be on yr effg hands. mark got off his phone and left his phone on my desk and said let me know if jim calls and theyalked out of the dime -- and they walked out of the room. a couple minutes later, likely around between 2:15 -- 225. -- 2:25. jim called and i answer the phone and it said one second and i guess he knew it was me and i introduced myself and i don't remember if he call myself or someone else but -- he says ok and i went down and i asked the valet if mark was in the dining ro and he said yes and i opened the door to the van will -- dining room and briefly stepped in to get mark's attention and i showed him the phone and flip

marks. another month went by us senators two us senators including the senator from virginia and senator from new york alfons tomato, some of you my age and older would remember who he is putting pressure on newport news in the navy to make an arrest. so there was a tent activity in this investigation, but it really wasn't getting anywhere until you see this in a lot of wrongful conviction cases is that there'll be one fact one thing that will change the course of an investigation and suddenly you have a suspect and suddenly you start painting a bull's eye around the target and that's what happened to keith harword. keith harword was in a drunken dispute with his girlfriend. he she hit him with a frying pan and he bit her on the shoulder and ended up getting arrested. so the police get wind of this sailor roughly matching. corruption, they ignore the fact that keith harward had a mustache at the time and the perpetrator was clean shaven, but apart from that. he looked good for it because he

"mark. _ a pat saying something to the effect of, "mark, we need to do something more _ of, "mark, we need to do something more they— of, "mark, we need to do something more. they are literally calling for the vice _ more. they are literally calling for the vice president to be hung." and mark— the vice president to be hung." and mark responded something to the effect _ mark responded something to the effect of. — mark responded something to the effect of, "you heard it, pat, he think— effect of, "you heard it, pat, he think mike — effect of, "you heard it, pat, he think mike deserves it, he doesn't think— think mike deserves it, he doesn't think they're doing anything wrong." to which— think they're doing anything wrong." to which pat said, "this is crazy, we need — to which pat said, "this is crazy, we need to— to which pat said, "this is crazy, we need to do something more," briefly— we need to do something more," briefly stepping into mark's office. when _ briefly stepping into mark's office. when mark said something to the effect _ when mark said something to

briefly stepped into mark's office. mark said something to the effect of he didn't think they're doing anything wrong. knowing what i had heard briefly in the dining room, coupled with pat discussing the hang mike pence chants in the lobby of our office and mark's response, i understood "they're" to be the rioters in the capitol chanting for the vice president to be hung. >> let me pause on this point. as rioters chanted hang mike pence, the president of the united states, donald trump, said, quote, mike deserves it and that those rioters were not doing anything wrong. >> mike deserves it, mika. >> yeah. >> that donald trump, the sitting president of the united states, says in the oval office that his vice president deserves to be executed by an angry mob and the mob, again, that's armed and is at the capitol because of him. >> yeah. i mean, so far the committee has done a great job getting a description of this former president, who's just a horrible, putrid person, just horrible, who turns on people like a chameleon.

professor mark clague. he will talk about his book about the history and impact of the star-spangled banner. then boris johnson will take questions from the house of commons. later, looking at ways to reduce domestic terrorism. ♪ susan: mark clague, that was jimmy hendrix playing his version of the star-spangled banner at woodstock. let's talk about your book. mark: i am smiling as i hear that because to be is still the most amazing performance of star-spangled banner in history. jimi hendrix, 1969, the youth of america conditioning a different future for the nation. i teach a course in american music for first-year students and i think partially to make myself look cool i play jimi hendrix and the star-spangled banner because i figure if i am talking about american music, what could be more american than the star-spangled banner? the questions lead me on a quest that has taken me more than a decade to figure out where the song came from, what it has meant in different moments in american history. but it

briefly stepped into mark's office, and when mark had said something -- when mark had said something to the effect of he doesn't think they're doing anything wrong. knowing what i had heard briefly in the dining room, coupled with pat discussing the hanging mike pence chants in the lobby of our office, and then mark's response, i understood "they're" to be the rioters in the capitol that were chanting for the vice president to be hung. >> let me pause here on this point. as rioters chanted "hangike pence," the president of the united states, donald trump, said that "mike deserves it," and that those rioters were not doing anything wrong. this is a sentiment that he has expressed at other tes as well. in an interview with abc news correspondent jonathan karl, president trump was asked about the supporters chantg hang mike pence last year. instead of condemning them, the former president defended them. >> saying "hang mike pence." pres. trump: because it's -- it's common sense, jon. it's common sense that you're supposed to protect -- how can you -- if you know a vote is fraudulent, ri

and she was mark meadows right hand person. and i commend her. it took incredible strength of character to stand there on the witness stand by herself doing public testimony. with the entire nation watching you. knowing what is to come. she was inside the white house. when i couldn't go publicly. she has seen firsthand what they'll say and trash your name and disparage you and try their best to discredit you. there's no discrediting her. she worked in republican circles. this is her life and career thus far and she took a stand for our country regardless of that. regardless of personal cost to her. and i commend her. i commend her bravery and commend her ability to stand there on her own when so many others have cowered and will not do that and tell the truth about what happened. >> do you remember part of the testimony they put up -- in the beginning. put up the map she said it looks bigger on the map. it's really small. showing how close her office was and mark meadows office to the oval. and my question is, why is the former president claiming

i remember tony finishing explanation and taking a few seconds for mark, and i said mark, did you hear him? and then mark chimed in like all right, anything else? still looking down at his phone. and tony looked at me and i looked at tony, do you have any questions? like what are you hearing? and i looked at tony and like he just told you about what was happening out at the rally, i know, and then he looked up and said have you talked to the president? and tony said yes, sir, he's aware, all right, good. >> he asked tony if he had informed the president and he said yes he had. >> is it your understanding mr. ornato told the president about the weapons on the morning of january 6th? >> he is what he relayed to me. >> and mr. meadows' general response when people raised concerns what could happen on january 6th. >> so at the time and the day leading up to the 6th, lots of public reports how things might go bad on the 6th. potential for violence. i'm hearing correctly, mr. meadows did not share those concerns, or at least did not act on those concerns? >> did not act on those concerns wou

mark meadows, hey, mark, i've known you for a long time, buddy, you're in deep shit. you're in the middle of this conspiracy. you may want to get yourself a really, really good defense attorneys. to quote donald trump, you may want to get one of those. oh, wait, here's an idea, mark. you can do something that you've refused to do for years now. you can show courage and you can tell the truth. hey. mark -- donald trump won't protect you. he will throw you under the bus. he will stab you in the back. he will let you rot in jail. defend the country. or, well, get ready to pay a criminal defense attorney a lot of money. what do we have next? >> at the very least. >>> all right. still ahead on "morning joe," much more on yesterday's bombshell hearing, including more on vice chair liz cheney's warning to trump allies about attempts to influence or intimidate witnesses. >>> plus, we'll be joined by house select committee member jamie raskin on the heels of cassidy hutchinson's revealing testimony. >>> also this morning in a huge blow to russia, nato leaders ha reached a deal

but wh heari rudy's take on january 6, 10 mark's response -- and mark's response, that evening was the first moment that i remember feeling scared. annervous f what could happen january 6. and i haa deeper concern for what was happening with the planning aspects of it. >> thank you. today we are going to be focusing primarily on the events of january 5 and 6 at the white house. to frame the discussion, i want to talk about a conversation you had with mr. radcliffe, the director of nation intelligence. he had this conversation december of 2020. was nominated by president trump to oversee u.s. intelligence -- the u.s. intelligence community. before his appointment, he was a republican member of congress. as you will see on this clip, the director commes in december of 2020. >> my understanding is a director did not want much to do. [indiscernible] that it wasn't something the white house should be pursuing. it felt dangerous for the president's legacy. he was concerned it could spiral out of control. and potentially be dangerous. either for democracy or the way the things were going the

mark: it's interesting. i was able to trace lots of connections between the anthem and the civil rights movement. today we are polarized and we see the anthem and the question of slavery, where does it fit in history, there is tension between patriotism and progressivism. what bible tries to do is show -- what my book tries to show it they were allied in many parts of american history and the anthem as a protest song is part of its history. one place i was able to find that is in the civil rights movement. there were protests in new york i document where groups protesting on equal hiring practices in the construction industry laid down in front of equipment and all saying the star-spangled banner in order to express a civil rights protest. and in another performance in selma after the violence on the british -- on the bridge, the next day there was a prayer vigil and those assembled sang the star-spangled banner. so the message is we are also americans. i think every time it is performed there is a claim of

>> tony and i want to talk to mark that morning, mark was sitting on his counter, which was something difficult. i remember turning to scott, and i was like, you know, informed him how many people we had. these are the weapons that were, he possibly listed more weapons off their, but i just don't recall. given the brief but a concise explanation, but also a fairly thorough, and then, i remember distinctively, mark not but -- i remember tony finishing explanation, and it's taking a few seconds for mark to say something. i almost started, said, mark, did you hear him? and then, i embarked -- is there anything else? still looking on his own, and tony looked at me, and i looked at tony, and tony said, sir, do you have any questions? it's like, did you hear? and i went to tony, and i was like, -- he said, yeah i know, and then he said have you talked to the president? and i said, yes sir -- >> he asked tony tony had informed the president? and tony said yes he had? >> yes. miss hutchinson, is a year understanding that mr. ornato told the president about weapons at the rally on the morning

she worked for mark meadows. we should not forget that mark meadows has been unwilling to answer the subpoenas. >> on that point, listen, i was just reporting what was going on in the campaign and the onslaught that i felt was significant. there was a point where secret service had to walk me to my car. this is a woman who potentially worked in the white house, was executive assistant to mark meadows. the chief of staff, privy to inside information. and she tells the committee what she knows in the face of the people out there that don't want to hear it that including the president, the former president of the united states and all of his highpowered allies, and the millions of people in this country that choose to believe that the election was stolen, chosing to believe a lie is the truth, it takes incredible courage to answer those questions. it takes incredible courage to be there and you have to, just knowing the world, knowing the trump orbit, knowing everything as we look ahead to the start of the hearing,

sheryl: i made a final decision this weekend and let mark know. emily: we will have more on that decision them of why she's leaving now and what it means for meta's future. and if you want to keep working at tesla, forget about working from home. elon musk sending any mail with the subject line, remote work is no longer acceptable. first a quick check of the markets and how meta shares moved on news of sheryl sandberg leaving the company after 14 years. bloomberg's ed ludlow here with more. big day for the markets. ed: fantastic reporting on sheryl sandberg and the role that the selloff in meta shares, even though it was the last 20 minutes of the session, had an impact on the broader markets. s&p and nasdaq down, those declines accelerated as we saw meta shares selloff more rapidly in the last 30 minutes trading. the nasdaq 100 really weighing down that index. another day where yields continue to rise. the u.s. 10 year treasury up 2.9%, up around six basis points. all eyes on meta, the parent company of facebook, at one point down for percent. it

mark: hello america i am mark levin this is "life, liberty & levin" in this an inch and a half thick is that opinion and dissent of the supreme court decision of the gods case that has received so much attention and isn't it amazing as soon as the decision was issued that people were giving their opinions? you know they did not read it. you know nancy pelosi did not read this. yet she came out and made a poisonous statement filled with lies intended to provoke because the democratic party has had an entire plan of e-mails, get out the vote, grassroots operations, protest, many on commercials. you see that play out in anticipation of this decision that was leaked from a liberal clerk on the supreme court that i would argue. and incredibly important decision. why? because it is a constitutional decision that recognizes a court and accepts the fact it is not all-powerful. one of the great things about press washington lies he decided he would not be king. he could have been. he said no. i will follow the constitution. the activist on the court who lobby the court to basically turn the s

and mark looked up and he doesn't want to do anything, pat. pat said something to the effect of -- very clearly had said this to mark, something to the effect of, mark, something needs to be done or people are going to die and the blood will be on your hands. this is out of criminal i'm going down there. >> trump didn't want to do anything. what are the legal implications? >> we have heard dereliction of duty. he sat there and did nothing during the crucial three hours. doing nothing is hard to argue it's a crime. we know he did so much more than nothing. he incited that crowd knowing that they were armed. he put aside all the things he did in the preceding weeks to pressure doj and vice president. i heard the testimony today, the bravery of what she did. the enormity. the power imbalance. the people she testified about how experienced they were in washington d.c. how much more powerful they were than her. donald trump. pat cipollone, rudy giuliani, mark meadows. none of them have talked. and this young woman, 24 years old at the time. 26 now.

that mark meadows would be able to provide to the committee. i think there is still a gap there, that's why exactly why we need to hear from him. that's why we are going to the lengths, to uphold this subpoena, to compel him to testify. and i think that that information he can provide to the committee is incredibly important. as far as the other potential witnesses yes. anyone who has further information to corroborate, information that's been shared by other witnesses. we want to hear it under oath! from those individuals. so we welcome them to come forward, and provide more details. about the things we have discussed in today's hearing. >> i'm just going to pressure you on that. it has been publicly reported that robert engel the league of the presidents security detail, did give a deposition to the committee. about two and a half weeks ago. is that true? >> i can say that -- you know, we have heard from these witnesses, but clearly, we are seeking and would like tohear more information, and more detailed specific information from them in the

leave it to mark shields to create the perfect phrase describing mark shields. a stranger to self importance. he was in awe of mike mansfield, the long serving majority leader of the united states senate in history, not because mike mansfield was a glamorous, political star who delivered inspiring speeches, his admiration for mike mansfield begins with mike mansfield forging a birthday to get to join the navy when he was 14, then joining the army after that, then joining the marine corps after that. >> he goes on to become a professor of asian history at the university of montana, gets elected, it serves 34 years in the congress of the united states, majority leader longer than anybody in history. united states ambassador to japan, under both president carter, asked again under ronald reagan, and, when he dies, when he dies, written on his tombstone, at arlington, at his request, is michael joseph mansfield, born markh 16th, 1903, died october 5th, 2001, private united states marine corps. no majority leader, no ambassador of japan. >> what do you see in his adm

i think mark is a very good ceo. mark zuckerberg is a very good person and so is sheryl sandberg. there has never been anything like facebook just like google or amazon or apple. i know that they have always done it in a principled manner. i still have faith. mark outlined a team under him most of whom i know. a team of very good highly principled admirable people who have mostly been there for eight or 10 years or more. chris cox who runs at facebook is someone you should have on your air. he is one of the most impressive people i have ever met. he left for a time because he didn't like certain business decisions. i talked over -- he talked it over with mark, returned in the same role. facebook has deep issues to address. you couldn't have better people facing them. emily: don graham, orma facebook board member, thank you for joining us. -- former ace book member, thank you. coming up, this is bloomberg. ♪ emily: bitcoin rebounded on thursday. katie greifeld is here with more. >> can't break the spell. tech stocks rose so bitcoin did as well. the $30,000 per coin level is impor

>> when tony and i went in to talk to mark that morning, mark was sitting on his couch on his phone, something typical, these are the people outside right now, these are the weapons, and gave him a brief, a thorough explanation, and i remember distinctly mark not looking up from a -- from his phone. i remember finishing the explanation and it taking him a few seconds for him to say, "anything else?" still looking downt his phone. tony looks at me and i look at tony and tony said, no, sir, do you have any questions? what are you hearing? i looked at tony and said, we just told you what is happening at the rally. then he looked up and said, have you talked to the president? and tony said, yes, sir. all rig, good. >> he asked tony if tony had informed the president and tony said yes, he had? >> is it your understanding that he told the president about weapons at the rally on the morning of january 6? >> that's what he really to me -- he relayed to me. >> ts is how you chacterize mr. meadows' general response one concerns were raised about what could happen january 6. >> at that time of

and mark looked up at him and said he doesn't want to do anything, pat. and pat said something to the effect of, and very clearly said this to mark, something to the effect of, mark, something needs to be done or people are going to die and the blood is going to be on your effing hands. >> today hutchinson also revealed that rudy giuliani and her boss, the chief of staff, mark meadows, were among those who asked for a presidential pardon in the aftermath of january the 6th. >> did rudy giuliani ever suggest that he was interested in receiving a presidential pardon related to january 6th? >> he did. >> ms. hutchinson, did white house chief of staff mark meadows ever indicate that he was interested in receiving a presidential pardon related to january 6th? >> mr. meadows did seek that pardon, yes, ma'am. >> that is the closest look we've gotten into the inner workings of the white house on the day of the attack, the day the rioters breached the capitol. cnbc's senior congressional correspondent ylan mui now learning more about the push inside the white hous

mark: let's listen to some tapes. melody and a of your favorites is the conversation with sergeant schreiber ahead of the peace corps in this one comes from february 1st of 2054. and in this we hear lbj informing schreiber and all of his legendary persuasive powers that schreiber is about to be named the new head of the war on poverty. let's roll the tape think back to all. >> good morning mr. president how are you. [inaudible]. >> i think it was the advice but if you don't mind company has wisdom and i wanted to sit down with a couple of people to see what we can give no have some sort of 19 what happens is you know somebody and someone else in the dome of the heck they're doing with with this program is going to be specifically. and. [clapping and cheering]. and what are you going to do. >> well, just go away and go to camp david and figured out we need something. i will say to them in i've got to myself about yesterday and work out your peace corps anyway you want to and head of the committee and have some acting o

that mark meadows would be able to provide to the committee. i think there is still a gap there, that's why exactly why we need to hear from him. that's why we are going to the lengths, to uphold this subpoena, to compel him to testify. and i think that that information he can provide to the committee is incredibly important. as far as the other potential witnesses yes. anyone who has further information to corroborate, information that's been shared by other witnesses. we want to hear it under oath! from those individuals. so we welcome them to come forward, and provide more details. about the things we have discussed in today's hearing. >> i'm just going to pressure you on that. it has been publicly reported that robert engel the league of the presidents security detail, did give a deposition to the committee. about two and a half weeks ago. is that true? >> i can say that -- you know, we have heard from these witnesses, but clearly, we are seeking and would like to hear more information, and more detailed specific information from them in th

mark is available to sign. thank you so much have a good evening.

she does not an solve mark meadows. because we've heard from the likes of jeffrey rosen or we've heard from richard donahue does not absolve pat cipollone. just because she has said or they have said something about it, i still would like to hear more information from the people who had the duty to advise the president and have not spoken up about these issues. it is so important because remember this committee, they have a legislative function here. a function to close whatever gap between what is illegal and what ought to be illegal and until we hear from people who are in those positions, i fear the american people will not go fully on board. >> the select committee also released this exchange that mike flynn, national security adviser, had when they were asking him questions and he re repeatedly was pleading the fifth. >> double the violence on january 6th was justified? >> clarification, is that a question -- >> both. >> i said fifth. >> do you believe the violence on january 6th was justified morally? >> take the

text mark is one of the benefits we offer. emily: what comparisons do you see between the downturn when you were founded and now to mark sarah: some would say "better to be lucky than smart." when we launched, it was a downturn. we were able to move quickly. your last segment was on entering the crypto market, and i think there is a similar energy and where we are in the crypto space relative to where we were in the overall market a decade ago, when we were founded. emily: i know you are working on a crypto product for launch later this year. what is your take on the broader crypto volatility and bitcoin at new lows? sarah: our view is that crypto continues to be an asset class for the long-term, and we think about it as a whole instead of the individual stories. bitcoin or the rest of the points coming up behind, our view is long-term diversification in traditional finance and similarly in, and from an advisory standpoint, we believe this is not an all or nothing idea. we advise our clients to use crypto as a diversification

mark updegrove serves as a president and ceo of the lbj foundation in austin, texas. he's a presidential historian for abc news and also an accomplished author. mark has actually authored five books on the presidency, including this book that we are celebrating this evening, incomparable grace, jfk in the presidency. i had the privilege of recording a podcast this afternoon with mark, which we will release later in the month on the book is officially released. it was a fascinating conversation, i really enjoyed my time with mark and i think you're going to enjoy the time with him here this evening. he has also written for the new york times, the politico, national geographic, time, the daily beast, usa today and, most recently, he has been the executive producer for cnn's original series, lbj, triumph and tragedy. if that is not enough, mark has had the privilege to be the envy of every journalist and historian who has interviewed, exclusively, seven american presidents throughout his career. it was 61 years ago that a young john f. kennedy was sworn into the office,

mark: yes. the -- first, you did have a student come work for us here at fdd, hopefully they came back with positive thoughts. >> they did. mark: ok, good. so look, agreed that it's tough -- it's -- you see this in the military, you've entered -- you don't enter as a lieutenant colonel, you enter as an ensign or second lieutenant. and you have the -- chris: a few ensigns become lieutenant colonels. mark: yes, there you go, that's true, fair enough, yes. and then maybe the space force someday. but i would say that the key to this is having what chris described as nine jobs within nsa that felt different, i felt the same way in the navy -- i was a navy officer, had about 14 assignments, only one or two were the same. they were vastly different every time. we're starting to see that. there is a cyber workforce, there's an act has just passed that's going to allow some movement between agencies. i think that's the beginning of it. there are different ways in the federal government to get job satisfa