that gave oxygen to ross perot. it was a frustrating thing. if ross perot had not run i do think george h.w. bush would have won reelection. i'm not sure the united states would be as unified as we think it would be. i think it's the divisiveness were actually sewn and kind of upset the apple cart. i do not think catchment there very few people at george h.w. bush did not really call friends. and ross perot would be one. he did not remember most people were his enemies, or his enemies. i'll tell you one story i remember right after the top vote we just barely won in the senate and the president invited senators to come down and watch a movie at the white house. people are in line, coming into the white house the president is greeting everyone as they commit to see the movie. he just really against on the bill for the senate pretty looks and says really? think of the people who voted for the bill because he was against it. [laughter] if george h.w. bush observed another term i think that further our institutions of democracy. which i really thi

perot. mcmullen is a former cia officer, former house republican staffer, running as an independent in this race, and he has gotten the utah democratic party to endorse him. the utah democrats aren't running and candidate in this race. so you've got a republican in mike lee, the sitting senator, the incumbent, running against independent admin mcmullen. this is a very conservative state. the democrats in the state are making the calculation they can get enough people in the middle to cobble that coalition and send not mike lee to the united states senate. there has not been a nonrepublican winning a statewide election here since a democratic governor in 1980s won reelection. in fact, in 1970, that is the last time a nonrepublican went to the united states senate from the state of utah. mcmullen says lee is way too extreme for the state, trying to get democrats to come on board with him, trying to get those in the middle to come on board with him, but it is going to be tough, there are a numb

ross perot. >> apparently some folks got upset when i referred to african-americans as ye people. >> jennifer lopez. >> mr. williams, is this your attorney? >> no, he's just hanging. >> call me. call me. call me. call me. >> call me don't play that. >> i've got a two-party for you. what did that mean to you all then doing this work together as a team that has pioneered a space that then was less supported in terms of platforms, and now you have so much more obviously, and, two, what's on your mind because i know what you're working on gun violence and other things so take it away. >> we're just proud because we knew what the show meant to america. with ear the hottest comics at the time. keenan ivory wayans was like professor xavier from "x-men," grabbed up and brought color to tv, not color to tv, but we proved to america that all americans laugh at the same things. when we're in the black and white era, everybody laughed at andy griffin and everybody laughed at "i love lucy." we all laugh at the same things but we were able to prove that we all do coming into the '90s because we sh

perot and, you know, from within and bill there was just the sense that george bush is responsible for just all the terrible things in the world, even as we were heading into yet another period of, you know, pretty good economic times. and so i think it's one thing to say, hold the president builtable. it's another thing to have whispering t in his own party about replacing him. and yet worse, the other party to say, as soon as we're in power, we're, going to impeach him and we don't know why. we're just going to impeach him on principle. >> peter baker, we hear reporting, frustration from this white house that they can't get out from under from covid and inflation and the war in ukraine and everything else that's come across their desk. that's the nature of the job. he took the job and things were going to happen. the fact he's down in the 30s and the most recent nbc wrong track number was 75% among the american public. that's a big hill to climb for this white house. >> yeah. willie, i think you put your finger on something really important here. that wrong track number has been a pe

i was a big ross perot patriot and stuff and he said that would be the giant sucking sound because both the democrats and republicans wanted to connect canada, u.s. and mexico. do you think this was the downfall of america? thank you, sam. sam: thanks for the question. it is a great one and you can spend books discussing it and it is a very valid question. i would say free-trade -- like everything in life, is about trade-offs. it's how you respond to those trade-offs that is crucial. we lost many jobs because of that and we also gained many jobs because of that. we have a lot of people working in different industries that never would have been there before. you have communities that did very well, particularly in the west. certain parts of the atlantic coast as well. various places, austin, texas, places like that. you also find places that were hammered, just hammered by this and the problem that i think took place was we didn't see it as important to deal with that. my feeling was i think this is largely true -- the jobs that left to mexico might well have left elsewhere as well. i do