. >> brown, a legendary magazine editor who ran vanity fair and the new yorker, has tapped into more than 100 sources for an inside look at buckingham palace. plus, what's next for journalism? what does tina brown say now? >> "firing line with margaret hoover" is made possible in part by... and by... corporate funding is provided by... >> tina brown, welcome to "firing line." >> thank you for letting me come. [ both laugh ] >> you and i have known each other for some years. you are a legendary magazine editor. >> which means "old." [ both laugh ] >> titles of magazines like tatler, vanity fair, the new yorker. now you are the author of your second book about the british royal family, "the palace papers." it is an insider's account of the last 25 years since princess diana's passing. you spoke to more than 120 people that were involved or have knowledge of the senior royals. in 2022, assess the state of the monarchy. >> perilous, right now. it's in a perilous, fragile moment. the queen is in a glide path, obviously, to the last days of her reign. we've had the buffeting and tarnishing

the family to vanity fair, published it lay vanity fair. -- in vanity fair. i was in an editor's retreat. they all had to listen to me. everybody's phone goes off. we all turn it off except for dawn because he figured someone was calling him in the middle of this media must be important. he goes outside, there's a big picture. i see them out there and he goes -- [laughter] it was bob woodward on the phone. he told me about the vanity fair piece. he wanted me to identify him because he stilled and have his permission. i raced back to washington breaking many speed limits were not getting arrested. i told bob, it is over. so we did everything. bob had written a book about his relationship with him and that is why he was probably reluctant because he wanted his book the way was revealed. >> he never did that again? >> no. >> ok. what is the most enduring more important or significant legacy of watergate in your view? giving your particular area of expertise. >> i'm going to go with the idea, with the american public or the realization among the mark in public th

. >> tina brown is the -- >> tina brown, vanity fair's editor-in-chief. covered four royal weddings since prince charles named diana. >> diana had a brilliant natural instinct for the camera. she always did. >> she has been at the forefront of the women's leadership movement. >> here we are we the with a little success. tina brown, i'm so thrilled to meet you. >> delighted to be here with you. >> fantastic. so, the why this book, why now and what more is there for us to learn? >> this is the platinum jubilee. it's the last jubilee of queen elizabeth. that seemed like a great moment to evaluate the 25 years that have passed since the death of diana which left so much scorched earth and the house of windsor had to regroup and reinvent itself and that's what the book is about. >> you look at the diana history which you've chronicled. in the book you write ever since diana's death in 1997 the queen made it clear it could never happen again, her explosive celebrity and the monarchy drowned out by one. explain. >> well, the fact is that diana's popularity has c

the actors telling "vanity fair." >> kayleigh: what i struggle with terms of cancel culture is the term cancel culture in the full camp concept behind canceling a human being like they are an appointment no person will not make mistakes on their life. the point of being alive is figuring it out. hurting other people and harming other people is not okay. that there are consequences for those actions. but the concept of the twitterverse deciding if someone is just all of a sudden doesn't exist anymore is horrifying, heartbreaking, and ron. and dakota, you are refreshing pete dr. saphier. >> dr. saphier: she needs to be careful because one of the consequences of speaking out against cancel culture is getting canceled periods especially in hollywood. that can easily happen. >> but i love to see young people especially those within fluid speaking out. >> it is a great irony go against the grain in the maybe you yourself will get canceled. >> i live in a little bit of truth speaks out no person will not make mistakes in their life. reminds me of the gospel of john he is without sin cast the f

. >> maureen orth covered the versace story at the vanity fair. >> he wanted to be the very first italian decided to get on the new york stock exchange. and he was getting his business ready for an ipo. >> taking his company public. >> he was on top of a mountain, he was happy, everything was going right. >> so, have you met the money man in new york? gianni versace retreated to his luxurious mansion in miami beach. blissfully unaware, that the name versace would soon again be splashed across headlines. put there by a killer intended on stealing the fame of a genius. and who, even now, was alluding policed as he drove an extremely towards his destiny. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> coming up, -- >> a very different path to fame. >> andrew spent time with wealthier men who could help keep him in a life that he aspired to. >> a life that would take on one strange turn after another. >> he looked at me and said, stacy, you have no idea what i am capable of. >> when dateline continues. continues ♪ at lowe's, you'll find products from veteran-owned businesses all throughout our store. 26,000 veterans and mi

that featured in vanity fair about a week ago. i did a podcast just yesterday for vanity fair talking much more about this. i am working on a piece for another national magazine about the history of this and some of the things we talked about about how we have the strongest gun safety legislation in our country during the so-called wild west era. gun loving people who understood also we needed to do something sensible. west. that is actually the model those people -- and think back, that is what it should be, that is what we need to emulate, those people also thought we needed to do something about this. so think about why gun control failed so miserably. we have a big piece about that so watch about that desk to watch out for that. host: thank you for your time. that is it for our program today. at noon today, the march for our lives gun violence rally. you can watch that on c-span, c-span go and c-span.org and, monday at 10:00, the next congressional hearing on the capital riot. that is it for washington journal and another

and vanity fair? from her new york apartment, tina brown keeps a close eye on events in buckingham palace. those 3,000 miles give this british—american author a different, more global perspective on the royal family. for her new bestselling book, the palace papers, she interviewed over 120 people to tell the story of the women of the house of windsor. brown herself has met the queen several times. she was awarded the commander of the british empire for contribution to journalism. she has edited both tatler magazine and the new yorker. she knows the clintons well. she has metjustin trudeau, theresa may. suffice to say you don't get a lot better connected than tina brown in politics or in all things royal, which is why we went to visit her in manhattan. congratulations on the book. thank you. it is great. i passed a very delightful plane ride from london reading it. when you look as we celebrate her 70 years on the throne, the conundrum of the queen's impact, is itjust longevity? the amount of time sh

fair her reporting from afghanistan has received the south asian journalist. association's daniel pearl award. judges citation carefully piecing together the vast mosaic of forces that often compel sex work in america today poverty neglect racism addiction discrimination john diseffects the ways in which women are punished disproportionately for the actions of men her tireless reporting on the chaotic and have hazard world of domestic sex trafficking grapples with the very idea of how we think about sex workers today including not only the stigma around them, but also the very idea of what it means culturally criminally and sociologically to rescue someone. congratulations may okay now it's time for our panel discussion, which will be led by pamela paul. who's a member of the lucas board. so i'm going to leave the stage and she's going to come up pamela until very recently like about a week ago or something was the editor of the new york times book review, which she'd done for nine years. is that right? and she oversaw all book coverage at the time. so former

as "vanity fair" pointed out, the well for the media is whether the hearing will breakthroughs. with us is carl bernstein,'s thor of "chasing history." and bob woodward, currently author of "peril." you've heard how skeptical i am. am i too skeptical? >> no, you're not too skeptical, but i think we need to look at a bigger picture. we're just not talking about fox or news media. this is about the culture of the united states, the people of the united states. as journalists, one of the things we don't do enough is go out and find what's on the minds of the people in this country. yes, many people are affected and watch fox, and their division in the politics is very much represented by the fact that a fox is a huge and political media force in this country. but we have to look at the january 6th hearing and the event. >> does it matter if 7 out of 10 know the truth and 3 out of town are in denial. >> i think first, does it become clear what happened on january 6th? the committee has the information. it's devastating. there's only one law that goes to elect the president, that's o

monica lewinsky was thinking beyond the trial, she wrote a really compelling piece for vanity fair. in, it she writes, it's the larger implications for our culture that concern me the most. the waves we have stoke the flames of misogyny and separately, the celebrity circus. i mean, it's especially telling for monica lewinsky, someone who truly knows both of those issues, to write this. how seriously should we take her concerns? >> we should take them very seriously. so much of this trial has felt like it's a peephole into the private lives of wealthy, and sort of out of touch celebrities. but it's really been much more of a mirror, it's reflected ourselves back at ourselves. we've been able to see where we are at as a society, a society that is not just interested, but actually enjoys the humiliation of a woman, and the way that we've seen it just happen on the internet but even across conversations, and the way that it's been portrayed in the media, is very worrisome. the math just doesn't add up for people to take this on as their main huge issue. women have a much higher likeliho

in a police for "vanity fair," she criticizes courtroom porn, writing we're drenched in the taint of the dirt and degregs of the social media wars. the obsessive chatter around the depp/heard trial is one small example of the ever expanding, ever demanding search for titillation, no matter who the jury verdict favors, be it defendant heard or plaintiff depp, we are guilty. joining us now is civil rights attorney and advocate nancy erica smith, she represented gretchen carlson in a highly publicized sexual harassment case against fox news and roger ailes. thank you for being with us. what do you think about monica lewinsky said. do you agree with it? >> well, it is complicated. i agree with part of it. there may be an element of scheiden freud, on the other hand maybe we're watching because as a society we're interested in this issue finally, the issue of abuse, sexual harassment and sexual abuse, domestic violence, and it could be a reaction to metoo or also be that as a society we are finally interested in these topics. and we want to explore as a culture what should we be doing abo

"vanity fair." democrats are filling out of options. the hill had a piece on potential replacements. "new york magazine," democrats quietly searching for an alternative. >> harris: i'm glad they are not on my team. they gave up on their own guy. you want to wonder how he missed acknowledging the 78th anniversary of d-day, the guy doesn't have any friends. he doesn't have his own team. the inside team, the liberal media team. adrift and flat-footed on afghanistan. i mean, all of it is true. a true friend would tell you the truth so you know that's not who he is surrounded by because they are not telling him what's going on with america. we noise not feeling it because these -- we know he's not feeling it. i don't know what's going on at rehoboth beach. he's carrying his own bag. vacationing 30% of the time. somebody has got to hand him a news blotter and say this is what's happening. he's upset because they keep correcting him but he doesn't have the facts. when you look at what they do shown on the wall, our team has our backs and can p

. >> i know harry styles, you know, was on the cover of -- i think "vanity fair" with the dress. i just wanted you to know that i was there first. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] >> chelsea: okay, i got it. so tell me about the process with your parents. because there's some, you know, pretty rough stuff in this book. >> yeah. >> chelsea: you were separated from them as a little boy, which is heartbreaking. and then you went to go meet them when they were kind of -- they came to get you, perfect strangers almost, right? >> yeah, yeah, almost like getting adopted by my own biological parents in some weird way. >> chelsea: right. >> yeah, it was -- you know, it started out as a happy ending for our family because we're finally reunited. then of course, the realities of, you know, the actual arrangement really set in. which is that you had these people that really had no idea how to be parents. all of a sudden they're responsible for a 4 1/2 year old. and we're dealing with a language culture, generational barrier. you know, it was hard. it was hard on a lot of children of immi

. >> yeah, he's my guy and he's kind of the guy and we were at the "vanity fair" oscar party which is like all famous -- like, it's the place you go if you want to feel less famous because they're all there. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: everyone is there. >> and i was talking to kevin bacon, which is also very cool and he was like, "hey, i was just talking to al pacino. i was like, "al pacino is here?" he's like, "yeah, he's right over there you should go check it out check out al pacino. that's my guy. >> jimmy: that's your dude >> and so i grab naomi, i grab my wife, and i'm like, "let's go look at al pacino." i don't want to talk to him. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: no of course not >> what would i say -- >> jimmy: it's like the mona lisa. >> right >> jimmy: you just want to go look at it >> take a gander >> jimmy: take a gander at al pacino. >> yeah. so she's like, "oh, come on. so we go over, and i find a spot like 15 yards sure enough, he's right there. he's on, like, this couch with a bunch of people. and i find this spot, it's like under a potted palm tree, so we're kind of hidden and i'm

even monica lewinsky with the case in "vanity fair" calling it courtroom porn and saying we are all guilty of indulging in it. >> it is incredible how the media ecosystem has changed just since 2016, right? people are talking about this being one of the first tiktok celebrity trials, which is significant. i'm sure there will be questions raised about how that jury was able to stay truly isolated from any information about this case for six weeks, given, you know, how much of the media zone was flooded with independent social media campaigns. and fundamentally, something has not changed, which is that for a while it seemed as though the me too movement had undermined the idea of the perfect victim, that somebody had to be unassailable in so many ways in order for them to be credible against the accused, right? it sort of spread that burden out a little bit. that's what i think fundamentally, the believe women mantra or slogan was about. it's saying that the person who is on trial is the accused, not the accuser. and it's interesting that at the end of heard's op-ed, the one that's in questi

an interview with vanity fair, jamie raskin said, quote, the most expressing discovery that money played in the role of financial motive with all these events to keep the money pouring. joining me now, eugene daniels, he's a political white house reporter and coauthor of the playbook newsletter. and a political reporter. eugene, what's big name witnesses are likely to join these hearings? >> it's a long list. -- and see what they had to say. the ivanka trunk and jared kushner and the list is much longer, what we are hearing from the committee. those things, they are not telling us. they have a few days to hold these things to themselves. they can finally, we can finally see these things. i will say, the focus is not just what adam schiff was saying about connecting the dots. but also acting the narrative that has been going on for a year and a half. where a year and a half republicans have been able to whitewash this with basically almost no public pushback. now this committee has what is probably the hardest job. making americans sit down and watch in primetime as they try to tell the r

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