kari lake is your next governor. [cheers and applause] you're going to send a brilliant guy who i have also gotten to know very well, blake masters, to the senate. [cheers and applause] maria: coming up, arizona gubernatorial contender kari lake was the buzz at the weekend rally and the reality at the southern border. her plans to take on what has become a familiar sight, groups of 10, 20 the, now 500 illegal migrants swarming the southern border. the impact on arizona and the country coming up. it's all right here, right now on "sunday morning futures." ♪ maria: and first this morning, president biden infected with covid-19 has been doing video meetings with his staff over the weekend. the white house says the commander in chief has just mild symptom, but even before his covid diagnosis many were worried about the president's mental capacity and his ability to lead. the president turning 80 years old in just a but months and has had a year and a half of gaffes and missteps. former white house physician and congres

kari lake has been in the lead, but now karen robeson is catching up. and i think the endorsement of governor ducey, the endorsement of vice president pence are making it even closer. but what is important about her campaign, she's focusing on the issues that republicans are concerned about while kari lake is, as was mentioned earlier, is trying to continue to relitigate the 2020 election. >> that happens of course as the country is watching these hearings from the january 6th committee. the 8th hearing last night in prime time, some compelling evidence. is any of that resonating with republicans in arizona? >> i think that there are some. here's the thing. those who are loudest would tell you they're not watching it. but those who are quieter, they come up to me, they talk to me at events. they say they're paying attention to this, and what they want to see the republican party do is stop talking about the 2020 election, claiming that there was fraud, and instead, talk about what the vision is for the republican party for our country. and i think we've

i think if kari lake wins she's competitive in arizona. this is a tight state and a very good year for republicans and i think it will be a competitive race but not one where republicans are -- or democrats rather are going to be celebrating if kari lake pulls through the primary. >> something we'll all have to grapple with again. we're in a new place with what is happening in the gop right now. politico david siders thank you forror reporting. let's turn to the white house, where officials say president biden is improving significantly after he tested positive for covid last week. joining us now, from the white house, nbc news chief white house correspondent kristen welker. what is the latest. how is the president doing? >> hi, jonathan. good to be with you. the president is doing well according to white house officials. they are encouraged by his progress and given that his doctors say that the president's symptoms have improved significantly. they didn't release any new photos of him this weekend, they insist that he likely has the cont

that was absolutely fascinating your report on kari lake. and you can read more. >> barack obama supporter. >> can you read more about kari lake's evolution in a new piece out this morning on nbcnews.com. >> still ahead on "morning joe," the very latest on the missing secret service missing text messages. it turns out the agency was told to preserve records at least three times. so how did those texts end up being deleted plus amy klobuchar tells us about bills that are being introduced to stop stealing elections. and one of our next guests asks is the fed moving fast enough? "new york times" opinion columnist joins us with his new piece which he calls some good news you may not have heard. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. watching "" watching "" 'll be right back. for people of any age. and it can cause violent uncontrollable coughing fits. ask your doctor or pharmacist about whooping cough vaccination because it's not just for kids. flowers are fighters. whooping cough vaccination that's why the alzheimer's association w

so, it's a little more muted than the full election hysteria that you get from kari lake. and so their theory of the case that we can kind of walk this line. and we can pick up the five to 10% -- maybe 5%, really -- of the anti trump republicans and we will get them and then we can get maybe about a third of the party, maybe as much as 40%, that likes donald trump still but is kind of ready to move on. the bulwark -- we have a podcast called the focus group where we talk to mega voters. and you see that. it's about one third of the party. they still like trump but they are ready to move on. and so then the question is, can you get over the hump? right? can you draw in any of the trump voters who might go with you because you like doug doocy? or some of the local issues? i think we have seen that be very hard for the candidates to do. they're really only two states -- georgia and colorado -- my home state, where i am out right now. they're the only examples we have seen so far where these more diet maga candidates have won primaries. and so i'm skeptical it's going to work

pence slammed kari lake for her past support of democrats. >> i'm always happy to welcome converts to the republican cause, but arizona republicans don't need a governor that supported barack obama and hillary clinton. >> the race is really a face-off between the republican establishment and a trump candidate who's all in on the big lie. we're seeing similar races playing out all across the country, and we could eventually see the former vice president take on mr. trump for the republican presidential nomination for 2024. of course the rallies come after yesterday's january 6th hearing on capitol hill. former white house aide sarah matthews told the committee that president trump's tweet condemning mike pence was akin to pouring gasoline on the fire. we're waiting to see if the former president responds tonight. vaughn hillyard is live in prescott where we expect to hear from the former president pretty soon vaughn, you were at the pence rally earlier. how is this race being defined >> reporter: you know, shep, i think we need to make it clear that today, july 22nd, 2022, is the clear

if you want somebody who is a big personality, then kari lake is your candidate. >> reporter: robson's strategy to win the gop nomination is to consol consolidate support of traditional conservatives, helped by pence's friday rally. >> arizona needs karrin taylor robson. >> reporter: robson has the support of arizona's outgoing republican governor doug ducey who attacked lake's support for trump as a matter of political convenience. >> kari lake's misleading voters with no evidence. she's been tagged by her opponents with a nickname, fake lake, which seems to be sticking. >> reporter: a delicate dance for robson, courting the right wing means sowing doubts about the 2020 election. >> where are you on the 2020 election? >> at a minimum, the election was not fair, and i know people want to hear a different answer from me, but when you take a look at, you know, there was concern from a lot of voters. >> when you look at the primaries we just went through in some of these other states, i think messages to take away from that is certainly the donald trump endorsement is a powerful asset but

>> reporter: and donald trump holding a late night rally for kari lake. >> kari lake, i'll tell you, she is incredible >> reporter: lake is a former news anchor who left her job last year for politics, is an election denier and unrelenting defender of the former president. >> when we had president trump at the helm, we had a secure border, strong economy and safe streets >> reporter: thursday night's public hearing making the threat posed to pence on january 6th clear. now a notable coalition standing with him today including current arizona house speaker rusty bowers, who testified last month on the pressure he faced by trump allies to overturn biden's 2020 win in the state. >> is this a battle for the soul of the republican party >> well, whether it's the soul right now, but everybody's got to reassess do we want to be a party that's looking into the past with some kind of grudge match all the time? >> reporter: current governor doug ducey also endorsing taylor robson >> more and more conservative voices lending their names and their time and their energy to me >> reporter: lake no

hard to believe that kari lake has hosted dragged queen parties and supported planned parenthood. funded abortions. barack obama and likely voted for hillary clinton because she said donald trump is not my president when he was inaugurated in 2017. hard to think that's the maga, the harris to the maga crown. to better represents the policies of the prad and the former vice president mike pence believes karen robeson represents the policies and that's why he supports her. >> bret: just to be fair kari lake emotionally pushed back on the drag queen post on this show and obviously embraced by former president trump in just this rally who doesn't seem to have a problem with whether she endorsed president obama or not. >> well, i think it's clear that president trump has supported kari lake because of her denial of the election results in 2020 again, going back to the policies no question karen robeson more consistent candidate than what carry lake has been. >> bret: not the only back and forth endorsing candidates. >> in georgia brian kemp has been great. he has taxes and enormous ref

if you want somebody who is a big personality, kari lake is your candidate. >> reporter: robson's strategy is to consolidate support of traditional conservatives, helped by pence's friday rally. >> arizona needs karrin taylor robson. >> reporter: robson also has the support of outgoing arizona governor doug ducey who attacked lake's endorsement by trump as a matter of political convenience. >> lake is misleading voters with no evidence, tagged by her opponents with the nickname "fake lake" which seems to be sticking. >> reporter: a delicate dance for robson. courting the right wing means sowing doubts about the 2020 election. >> where are you on the 2020 election? >> at a minimum the election was not fair and i know people want to hear a different answer from me but when you take a look at -- you know, there was concern from a lot of voters. >> when you take a look at primaries we just went through, the messages to take away from that is the donald trump endorsement is a powerful asset but not the silver bullet. >> reporter: arizona's primary will be another signal for national republicans

who is kari lake? how close is she to winning the nomination? >> reporter: kari lake is the frontrunner for governor of arizona to take over and replace doug deucy. what is so intriguing about her story is her evolution, particularly over the last decade. she was a longtime local news anchor in the valley. she was a respected voice. essentially, headlined the evening news here. she was also behind the scenes more liberal. many of her close friends tell me. then over the years there started to be this change in who kari was. she left the news station just before -- around the time of joe biden's inauguration into office after she refused to call him president elect on air here. after hours of phone conversations with those who at one time were close to her, i was trying to get at the answer as to what led kari lake to this evolution, seemingly changing overnight into this election denier conspiracy theoryist and trump acolyte. it came down to that some of the sympathies towards donald trump started popping up in 2015, 2016. she was described as s

and you'll see what can happen when kari lake becomes your governor. it will be like day and night. >> especially great to be here. with frankly one of the best and most accomplished conservative governors in the united states of america, governor doug ducey, thank you, for eight years of leadership. >> your governor knows what i know. and what i can tell all of you know, there is only one candidate in this race who will be ready on day one to lead arizona even to greater heights and that's karrin taylor robson. >> cnn's kristen holmes is live for us in scattered showers with m -- in scottsdale for more on this. >> reporter: this race like so many republican primaries has really become a battle over the republican party and the direction it wants to do and one side donald trump and endorsed candidate kari lake, with election lies and conspiracy theories the center of her campaign here and she refuses to@ed a mid that joe biden is the legitimate president. on the other side of that, you have former vice president mike pence, supporting karrin taylor rob

but kari lake, who is a gubernatorial candidate, she's an election denier and that is why she has donald trump's support. and that is just one of her radical views. and what we've seen in arizona, it just says we've seen a couple of other states, georgia among them, where the rest of the republican party tries to get behind a more conventional candidate, one still conservative but not as trumpy and that is setting up the showdown here with with the split screen, it captures the dynamic. and sp-t speaks to mike pence being able to break with his former boss. that he is someone on january 6 said he was doing his constitutional duty. trump has never for given him. and now pence has stepped back in the political stage into the spotlight and carried the mantle of traditional republicans who will continue to defy donald trump claims that the 2020 election was fraudulent. and he's given a speech at the federal society about that and reiterated that in previous other interviews and continues to back candidates who do not support the big lie. instead of those who do. which of course those are the

. >> kari lake is misleading voters. she's been tagged by her opponent, fake lake, which is sticking and doing some damage. karen taylor robson started from zero and now this is a margin of error race. >> will the republican governors association support kari lake in the general election if she wins the primary? >> all post-august 2nd roles are to be determined. the republican governor's association is in the business of electing republican governors. we happen to be very good at it. we're the only majority republican conference in the country. we protect our incumbents, we reap our red states red. dana, we're on offense all over the country right now. this is the most expansive map we've ever had. oregon just came online, so we're on offense. we don't support lost causes. we certainly don't support landslides. we go into states where the races are competitive and get the good candidate over the finish line. >> let me expand beyond arizona. doug mastriano has already won in pennsylvania for that governor's race. will you

trump is backing the other candidate, kari lake. lake is an election denier and arizona's current governor is no fan. >> this is all an act. she's been putting on a show for some time now, and we'll see if the voters of arizona buy it. kari lake is misleading voters with no evidence. >> red meat or serious legal argument. on his podcast senator ted cruz argues for a conservative legal challenge for the right for same-sex couples to marry. >> the court said, no, we know better than you guys do and now every state must sanction and permit gay marriage. i think that decision was clearly wrong when it was decided. it was the court overreaching. >> though the house plans to vote this week on the respect for marriage act which would enshrine same-sex marriage as federal law. thanks for joining "inside politics" today. ana cabrera picks up our coverage on cnn right now. >>> hello, i'm ana cabrera in new york. thank you for being with us. i hope you had a nice weekend. happening right now, trumpism on trial. former trump advisor steve banno

donald trump, he's stumping for election denier kari lake whose campaign has really been centered around election lies and conspiracy theories, and there's trump's former vice president mike pence who's on the trail for karrin taylor robson who's trying to appeal to establishment conservatives, so who will be the king maker, and who and what does this mean for the future of the gop? joining me now cnn senior political analyst ron brownstein and cnn political commentator, scott jennings. i'm so glad both of you are here. we probably should call it a queen maker at that point in time. i'm just saying, that seems like an outdated term. i did see two women. it's just me, i know that the phrasing is there. ron, let me ask you about it first, there's no question about it, this is a bit of a proxy war in arizona. what is this race and this idea, this dueling involvement of trump and pence, what does it tell you about the direction of the republican party? >> you know, i think it's revealing in a couple of different ways. obviously these two candidates, karrin taylor robson and kari lake represe

. >> but former president trump will hold a rally to support kari lake in what he describes as the entire trump ticket. kristen holmes is in pea your. give us the latest there. >> reporter: this is really not just about a split between trump and pence, but it's really about another one of these republican primaries in which there are six of the republican party. on one side you have the group that really wants to continue talking about the 2020 election, they promote donald trump's lies about the 2020 election's conspiracy theories. on the other side you have people who just want to move forward, get away from the 2020 election. the latter camp is where you find former vice president mike pence, as well as outgoing governor doug ducey, also a republican. you'll remember that he faced trump's ire for not overturning the results of the arizona election in 2020. so both pence and deucy will be behind me just in a few points and they are squarely behind robson. she is the established favorite. she was appointed to the board of regents in arizona. they are falling in line behind her. on the ot

lake? >>. >> the biggest difference is i have a 30-year of accomplishment in the private sector, building budgets, running teams, signing both sides of paychecks. i have a long, long history and record of supporting republican candidates and conservative causes. that's why i'm in this race, to move arizona forward and bring a conservative vision to our state. >> which is really a difference of experience that you're bringing to the job, right? on policies, let's talk about immigration, for instance. you're both in favor of building the wall. you're in favor of surging the national guard. are there differences there? >> last week we obtained the endorsement of the border patrol council. they know i can get it done because of my record of accomplishment. lake supported amnesty for 11 million people. that's the significant difference between she and i. not only did she support amnesty for 1 is million people, she walked doors and supported barack obama while i was out supporting and working fo

stephanie: kari lake is running for governor. her campaign posters show her side by side with the former president. >> we've got to make sure we don't end up with a rino. stephanie: at a recent rally in tucson, lake repeated the trump playbook, accusing her opponent karen taylor robson of getting ready to cheat in the primary. kari: i guess if you're counting people who are, you know, dead people who might be. but but she's not up at the polls. and it makes me think there might be trying to set the stage for another steal. stephanie: kari lake's campaign is nothing if not trump-inspired. a media personality with no political experience and a no holds barred style that speaks to the republican base. but the maga crowd alone can't give her victory in the general election if she gets past the primary. biden won arizona by appealing to the sta's largest group of voters, independents, and many republicans crossed over. are you concerned that you have alienated those independents and some of those republicans who voted for biden in thi

he's a disaster. >> reporter: ducey joined the former vice president in crossing the state. >> kari lake discovered god, guns and the gop about five minutes before she decided to run for governor. arizona cannot, cannot allow a fraud in the governor's office. >> reporter: some voters tell cnn they aren't ready to move on from the 2020 election or pence's role. while others hope to put it in the past. >> it impacted me in 2020 but we're in 2022, and we've got to look to the future, not the past. >> reporter: this is the second gubernatorial primary in which pence and trump have been at odds. the first time was in georgia when pence backed brian kemp defeated trump endorsed david perdue. >> when you say yes to governor brian kemp tomorrow you will send a deafening message all across america that the republican party is the party of the future. >> reporter: as pence and trump appear on a collision course in 2024. >> all right, kristen holmes joins us now live from prescott valley, arizona. so kristen, early voting has begun there. how are the candidates looking who are actually on the ballo

lake who can't even meet that bar. she called for decertification of 2020 and refused to say if she would certificate fight 2024 results if she's governor, and this is dangerous to our democracy. it is clear the reason the former president is interfering in elections across the state by -- across the country by endorsing candidates is because they're willing to subvert democracy in order to meet his objectives. >> arizona secretary of state katie hobbs, thank you. > i have a feeling, john, that trump might use that rally to not just push kari lake but to respond to the committee hearing. >> there is a lot he might address. he might address the committee hearing. he might address mike pence pretty overtly running for president in blind quotes about him from pence world. it will be fascinating. >>> next, we're going to speak with january 6 committee member jamie raskin about so many of the new revelations we heard overnight. plus, what is ahead for the committee? ♪ ♪ ♪ voltaren. the joy of movement. ♪ only two th

in there, we don't vote kari lake, we're going to get an open boarders rino or open borders socialist. >> as governor i will secure our border. i have a tough six-point plan that begins by calling our legislators into an emergency session. >> carlos, it really felt like somebody was following the mitt romney playbook. i got a six-point plan and someone is following the donald trump playbook, open borders socialists. that's the party now? >> it is a reminder of the toxicity that donald trump inserted into the republican party. some are fighting to take that out. mike pence picked up that flag now. will they succeed or not? we'll see. there have been successes by more establishment type republicans this primary season. it doesn't appear donald trump is the totally dominant, you know, force in the party anymore. he does have some competition. but, you know, these days he's also getting support from democrats who are funding some of these maga trump candidates which i think is a big problem and i think a scandal hasn't been discussed enough, but these candidates, they're getting amplified

trump will appear for kari lake. the republican primary race is less than two weeks away and it is seen as a test of g.o.p. priorities and it could set the stage for 2024 when trump and pence could face-off in a run for the white house. ron brownstein joins us to discuss this. both men are there in arizona. do you think it is a coincidence they are there at the same time? >> not the same day but not a coincidence because we have seen them on different sides of the primaries. the primary is am coming up on august 2nd. it is a very interesting moment. they clearly represent different strands. robson worked for reagan and bush, close to the governor. i think it is an interesting moment because it shows how much the establishment of the party has conceded in the argument to trump. you don't hear robson out there saying the evidence of the january 6th hearing have disqualified donald trump from holding office again. even mike pence. he is clearly trying to set his own path. but he went to the reagan library and mostly pra

lake, who has been out there spreading false conspiracies and election lies still today. i think it's also interesting that apparently she spent quite a bit at trump properties, so this is quite a profitable enterprise that trump has created. not only is he out there having people that support his interests and in the past overturning safe and free election but he's making money off of americans and candidates running today. so i'd rather have mike pence out there with governor ducey pushing back on these people. i wish that happened in maryland. we saw someone win the republican nomination in the governor's race that attended a qanon event earlier this spring and was busing people on january 6th to the capitol and tweeting that mike pence was a traitor. i think these people are dangerous for the country. i think the republicans are better off to continue to push back on them. if mike pence is the person to do that, which i think he is given his own life was put at risk, then i think that we are better off for him doing it. >> olivia troye, thank you very much for joining

on one side, you have former president donald trump and his endorsed candidate kari lake. she has made lies about the 2020 election conspiracy theories of center of her campaign. she refuses to acknowledge that joe biden is the legitimate president. on the other side you have former vice president mike pence and his candidate karen taylor robeson, she is backed by the establishment republicans who want to move forward from the 2020 election, she's endorsed by the outgoing term limited governor in arizona, doug ducey, who was attacked relentless by by former president trump for refusing to overturn the 2020 election results in this state. as this is unfolding in the state of arizona, it looks like pence and trump are set for a collision course in 2024 on the national stage. pence in recent weeks has really signaled strongly a potential run in 2024. and of course as we know, trump has continued to tease that run. so this would set up an epic showdown between the two of them who once served together in the white house and now haven't spoken in more than a year. >> fascinating

in arizona, republican front runner, kari lake has called for the carbon coffee for the texas stela abortion ban which doesn't include exceptions for rape or incest. in michigan, republicans have called it for all out republican abortion bans, and one of them has even said that we must inspire women who get raped to give birth because, quote, god put them in this moment. that is as disgusting as it is wrong. and these are just a few examples of horrifying stances that republican candidates have taken in swing state races. and let's be clear, if you don't think that all of this could end in a gop effort to ban abortion nationwide, you haven't been paying any attention. this is the state of america, as we head into the july 4th holiday. this is who we are. 246 years since the declaration of independence was signed, one part actively working to undermine half of the populations independents to make their own health care decisions. this time of year, we talk about life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. what do those words mean to republicans who insist on controlling peoples bodies and den

but when we're looking towards the general election, symone, kari lake is a serious contender, there are many people that have known her as a more moderating voice and figure for years. they have a hard time reconciling that with the person that is now seen as this trump-like figure that she pretends herself to be today. >> this is like the playoffs, except democracy is on the line. thank you both for your reporting. with abortion rights now let the states and election denials still gripping the nation, it's important that you know that the candidate that you choose to represent your state as governor will have nationwide consequences. who better to ask about democratic strategy to get governors elected? the men with the plan himself. joining me now is the democratic governor of new jersey, phil murphy. thank you for joining me, governor. >> great to be with you, symone. >> i'm excited about this conversation. let's get right into it. the people may not know, sir, but you're actually the vice chair of the democratic governors association. the bg, and that is the entity that is respon

pence endorsing for karrin taylor robson and trump for kari lake. a former local news anchor who continues to push the false claim that the 2020 election was stolen. pence apparently distancing himself from trump. this race will be a true test of trump's influence over the gop in arizona. and across the country as well. this race certainly highlighting the growing divide between trump and the republican party. eva. >> reena roy there for us. thank you. >>> jon karl will be tackling the midterms later this morning on "this week." he'll be speaking to arizona house speaker rusty bowers who testified at a january 6th hearing and who is now running against a trump-backed candidate. he'll also go one-on-one with west virginia senator joe manchin. plus, comedian jon stewart responds to the surprise gop opposition to the bill aiding veterans. janai? >>> now to the latest on brittney griner. her trial in russia on drug charges set to resume on tuesday, amid word the u.s. secretary of state spoke with russia's foreign minister. griner has been jailed in russ

they pick so many nut cases, between herschel walker, doctor oz, and it's kari lake. they are going to lose, assuming we have a nominal fair election. they're gonna lose when they would've won. because they were so arrogant they thought being a trump acolyte was enough to win elections. and stay people are like, i'm more concerned with covid and inflation. not sweat they're selling us, and conspiracy theories. >> but stuart, why do republicans need to sell a whole lot of crazy? you've spent your career working with trying to elect major republicans right? mitt romney, george w. bush. does the republican party no longer have a platform that is appealing to the american people that they can only exist in the crazy zone? >> republican party, let's talk about that platform. for the first time in its history the republican party passed a platform that it's whatever their leader thought it was. i mean, with these platforms, you realize just how extraordinary that is. whatever donald trump wants. there is no conservative party in america. what does it mean to be a conservati

. >> reporter: meanwhile, trump is actively campaigning for robson's republican opponent kari lake, a former tv news anchor who continues to push the false claim that the 2020 election was stolen. >> you are going to elect a truly great woman who i've gotten to know very well. >> do we love this man or what? [ cheers and applause ] >> reporter: these dueling pence/trump endorsements highlight the rift between trump and the republican party ahead of this year's high-stakes midterm elections. it also comes amid the explosive january 6th hearings. new video shows outtakes, a president refusing to say the election was over. >> i don't want to say the election is over. i just want to say congress has certified the results without saying the election is over, okay? >> reporter: as the capitol chaos unfolded with his supporters chanting, "hang mike pence," trump blamed pence for certifying joe biden's victory even after the violence finally ceased. and back in arizona, those trump/pence feuding endorsements could also be seen as a test for the republican party itself whether the party wants

lake, the trumpbacked conservative running to replace him and this could actually help with kelley's crossover apeople and help him at the ballot box in november. >> a lot of kell eds the passage of the chips act could be the jump start that companies need joining us now is mark smith mark, i like your perspective on this because you're not an intel analyst or someone who has been following this or right for the space even to succeed, so why do you think this is so significant and positive for the whole sector >> well, it starts with a "b," $52 billion over the next five years going from the fed to this specific sector. that's an unprecedented investment in the semiconductor space so you have to be bull fish that amount of money is flowing in i have to tell you, kelly, a lot has to be r & d. if you have 90% of the neon used for chips in ukraine and you've got crypton being the largest exporter from ukraine that helps the gases that make the chips, you've got a be prompt you've got to get in there and redesign the chips we can source here at home that's safer in the world and you'll n

i also wanted to ask you because kari lake a republican candidate for governor in arizona says if she's elected she will send armed national guard to the border and stop people coming across. what do you think of a plan like that? >> well, i haven't seen her comments so i don't know exactly what she means, but, look, we have had national guard on the border for years supporting the department of homeland security and cbp in particular so that's not unusual, but i would have to understand what she means. i certainly don't see the need for armed guard an armed national guard that suggests maybe some type of use of force in some way. to support customs and border protection with surveillance and logistic support makes sense to me, that's the type of assistance we've provided in the past. >> sir, we appreciate you being with us this morning. former defense secretary mark esper, thank you. >> thank you. >>> so ahead we have a look into what clergy and experts are calling impostor christianity and why they say it's threatening american democracy. >>> and first on cnn, investigators have ident

lake, candidate for governor. >> i know for a fact we will no longer accept rigged elections. >> reporter: pence campaigning for her rival. >> reporter: here we met some republicans who are done with trump. >> i voted for trump twice. if mike pence runs, i'm voting for mike pence. >> okay. so, why is that? >> i just think that, you know, everyone's seen the january 6th committee. he stood up for democracy that day. he's like, i'm not leaving the capitol because i need to be here. and he was the one that was making phone calls to the military and trying to fix the situation, while trump was crying in the dining room. >> but even among this crowd, there is sympathy for trump's election lies and support for a 2024 run. >> you're about see pence speak here. trump's not a big fan of him right now. >> i understand that. i hear that he could have not certified those results, pending all the claims of the fraud. and i wish he would have done that. >> pence had no legal basis to do that. also among those, rusty bowers, a life long republican and speaker of the arizona state house. >> we're talking

lake has been the front-runner throughout the year and a half. karrin taylor robson has put millions behind her candacy and this will be in the weeks to come in the proxy battle and this will be the duel in the desert and it will be the chance for mike pence, the doug ducey, the chair of the republican governor national association to really stake the claim that the republican party, republican voters not democrats, but republican voters are looking to move beyond donald trump. this is that chance for them. >> vaughn hilliard, perhaps nobody knows arizona at msnbc news like you, my friend. thank you for being on top of it. also in arizona, rusty bowers, remember him? he's telling msnbc news that it would take a miracle to win re-election. you might remember his emotional testimony in front of congress about the very intense pressure that he faced from donald trump to try to change the results of the 2020 election. if he were to win, right, bowers here it would show republicans could publicly cross the former president in a very high-profile way a

meanwhile, former president trump campaigned for her opponent, kari lake, a former newscaster who supported obama at one point, but now she say says changed. and not to disappoint the crowd, trump teased 2024. >> and now we may have to do it again -- [cheers and applause] i mean, look at what has happened to our country in less than to two years -- in two years. our country is like a different, like a different place. it's so sad to see. but first we have to win a historic victory for the republican party this november. when we retake congress, among our highest priorities must be to end the nightmare. >> reporter: the first republican starts speaking on the stage behind me starting at about 11 in the morning, so not too far away. and tonight's big headline speech coming from the man you just watched and heard, former president donald j. trump. neil? neil: all right, phil, thank you very much for that. phil keating in florida following those fast moving developments. we're also following what they're calling a housing correction at the very least, some call a housing crash. but exactly wher

trump was campaigning for kari lake, who is this insurrectionist kind of fake, phony pretending to be a maga crazy. at the trump rally, they went hard after rusty bowers and said he was a traitor. they said that biden was an illegitimate president. they attacked lake for the fact she used to support obama. they didn't mention the fact that she supported the insurrection that came to the capitol to attack and hang mike pence. this is the problem. there might be a civil war. they might not like each other very much. unfortunately, i'm feeling deja vu from 2016 where trump is the aggressor and he has the rabid base on his side and the people trying to go at him are pulling their punches. >> i don't disagree with tim's analysis, matt. i guess the part that doesn't add up for me is this faith that these are the right politics, that they can't change anything. i guess i'm old enough to remember that when you worked on a campaign, you believed it was your job to change public opinion, to persuade voters, to make a case and trust them to think for themselves. that's been abandoned on the righ

the governors certification is conclusive, which would be fine if you didn't have people like kari lake and mastriano in pennsylvania running for governor. because if you have a big lie governor, then you face the real prospect that they certify the losing maga candidate as the winner and then we are left with that being conclusive. now, there are provisions to go to court, but they're very, very cramped proprovisions. they're limited to six days, and they are very, very limit limited in what challenges can be brought. i hope we can have a bipartisan reform bill that will be worth passing. >> i mean, let me ask you a blunt or perhaps bleaker question. can you protect the democracy from people like mastriano ask lake should they ascend to power in those states? >> i think that that's the big question. i think that this is one of the things that we all need to be struggling with right now is we see steve bannon targeting one weakness in the election, which is he's recruiting people at the county and the sub-county level to infiltrate and undermine elections. in pennsylvania tomorrow there

trump is supporting kari lake. pence sbaking karen taylor robson. now back to "dateline." g karen r robson no >>> danielle locklear was missing for a day, then two. by then, local news, including wral tv was picking up on the missing teen story. >> this does not make any sense. >> during that first week, danielle's mom rona, spent her days at the police station and nights at her mother's house. >> i would just sit there. everybody would go to bed and i would stare at the front door just waiting, hoping, praying that she'll run through that door so i can yell at her. >> investigators hoped for the same. but danielle had gone silent. no posts. no tweets. no texts. >> we noticed really quickly, there's though social media. >> that's not a good sign. >> absolutely not. >> even if she's run away with a boyfriend to myrtle beach or something. >> absolutely not. for a teernl to be so active and flat line on social media is very concerning. >> a command post was set up, headed by david servey. how many different agents? >> the fbi had the biggest presence, representatives from the

you have kari lake, an extremist, an extreme trumpist running in arizona for governor. and leading right now. she was an obama supporter, right. and then you have dr. oz. he was a big democrat. he was anthony fauci's biggest cheerleader even a couple of years ago. and then, you could go to all of these and j.d. vance, saying christians can't vote for donald trump. to with be bad for their witness and this all starts with donald trump as you and i both know -- >> yes. >> -- he just despises religious conservators. he was a pro-choice, pro-gun democrat. and it seems all of the democrats that have gone hard, hard right and gone pro-trump, they're life long democrats. >> i mean, you remember trump he gave money to hillary clinton and nancy pelosi and chuck schumer. he was for legalizing drugs at one point and national health insurance at one point. i don't think donald trump believed anything about anything. but there is no doubt if you look at his record before he ran for president and you look back and go why is that guy running the republican party. that makes no sense.

rachel: there's a lot of enthusiasm for kari lake, no question about that. governor ducey, also just really quick, congratulations to you and the beautiful state of arizona, what you guys have done with school choice is truly historic, a real example for the rest of the country, and i think it go down as your greatest legacy. amazing work. >> thank you, rachel. thank you. rachel: all right. straight ahead, you might recall i won our mechanical bull competition last year. well, today we're giving the boys another chance for a rematch, so don't miss -- also don't miss our show tomorrow, congressman mark green, kayleigh mcenany, maria bartiromo all live tomorrow. ♪ ♪ we hit the bike trails every weekend shinges doesn't care. i grow all my own vegetables shingles doesn't care. we've still got the best moves you've ever seen good for you, but shingles doesn't care. because 1 in 3 people will get shingles, you need protection. but, no matter how healthy you feel, your immune system declines as you age increasing your risk for getting shingles. so, what can pro

meteorologist rob mayeda is in this morning for kari. but we will see hazy skies and look at lake tahoe . it is not bad in terms of air quality. we see was activity in the oak fire. it is pretty hot around south lake tahoe and you might see a slight chance of isolated thundershowers during the afternoon. you will begin to see increasing high clouds, courtesy of monsoon moisture. numbers are in the 60s and near 70 by oakland and close to 80 in san jose. giving you some productive times in your morning traffic, here is mike inoye. >> thank you so much, rob. >>> there is a back about the bay bridge. it will probably be crowded a little bit earlier this evening as well as we might have more folks heading into the city. the giants are home again tonight and the game is at 6:45. remember the 280 extension closures in san francisco later on at 10:00 tonight, one more of the eastbound direction heading over only one will close and that will be just fine for that amount of traffic . we do need more space here at marina boulevard. we have up to fi

we know that kari hall has been tracking this. we are talking about more people on the lake which is i guess causing some of the issues. >> it is so beautiful too. it's hard to want to stay out of the water, but you also had issues with the clarity. you think about the things that people are leaving behind. as you're making plans to head out there this weekend, make sure that whatever you take that you take away from the lake as well. temperatures will be nice and comfortable and actually cooler than what we typically see for the middle of july. temperatures heading for the mid-70s tomorrow, and reach 81 degrees on sunday. staying here at home and maybe you want to check out the jazz and blues by the bait happening this evening in sausalito. it will start out nice and comfortable. you may want to bring your light jacket as temperatures dropped later in the evening. this weekend in sonoma valley temperatures cranking up, especially between saturday and sunday. we see highs reaching up to 90 degrees by the end of the weekend. for yo