if trump doesn't run, it's abundantly clear desantis is very well positioned. desantis and trump, while they are allies an while they communicate occasionally, yeah, there is not -- desantis is not basically waiting to hear from donald trump before he does something. he's going to do things on his own and that includes doing things like this that basically in his mind is going to rile up the corporate media, rile up democrats, rile up leftist activists and he's going to continue to demonstrate that he's the fighter that republicans say they want. >> he has succeeded. he has succeeded in that regard if nothing else. dp gary, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> and of course now gavin newsom wants to get in on the action. if you saw the tweet, gavin newsom is saying, hey, desantis, you and i, on cnn. man, would i love to watch that debate. what are your thoughts? hit me up on social media. what do we have? yes, it does reek of stunt on one hand but the current administration just saying the border is secure, let's move on, is not cutting it. no more bunker politi

so, desantis for five years. so desantis has not made it a secret. he's brought it up again and again. and we had ted cruz with that tweet. martha's vineyard, greenwich, connecticut. you heard him talk about other places as well including hollywood. desantis was pretty clear this was coming. >> that's correct, erin. anyone who's been listening to desantis for months knows that he has been very publicly and repeatedly threatening to send migrants anywhere that gives democrats heartburn. he has thrown out president biden's home state of delaware, washington, d.c. and, yes, even martha's vineyard. now, he has $12 million set aside for this, and he has said today that he will use, quote, every penny of it. the big question that still remains is how did desantis get around a state law that says this money was supposed to be used to transport migrants that were in his home state of florida as you showed on that map, these people started in san antonio and went all the way to martha's vineyard. he was asked about that discrepancy today and he said this. >>

guess what ron desantis? you won't buy the stroke of the pen can decide whether you spin the legislatures or use that $18 million on floridians who are displaced. including >> including in orlando, the place you just stripped of two billion dollars because he wanted to punish disney. those of the people you have to help rhonda scent is can you do that and still be a republican nominee in 2024? let's bring in gina mccarthy, she's a former epa administrator and climate adviser in the obama administration. thank you for being here. the other thing we have to deal with is this question of places like this. sandra bell and these places of florida that are man-made barrier reefs et cetera. they are really tenacious, they're in a place that is very vulnerable to super storms like this, and even to less onerous storms. what is the federal government's role in saying here is some money, do you just build back what you had and continue to have development in places that are so vulnerable? >> thanks joy for having me an

>> you know, ron desantis is a bully. and he is going around, you know, really, just, fearmongering folks. and so, this is what happened in a school board. our school board that has year after year passed resolutions, acknowledging the fact that it's lgbtq history month. this year, all of

and donated to desantis so here is governor ron desantis talking about gavin newsom. >> the governor of california sent a letter to the department of justice saying you need to prosecute texas and florida governors and all i can say is i think his hair gel is interfering with his brain function. will: prosecute the governors of texas and florida for kidnapping charges for something the biden administration has been doing for your. here's how newsom responded, clearly you are struggling, distracted and busy playing politics with people's lives since you have only one overriding need and that his attention. let's take this up and debate. i will bring my hair gel, you bring your hairspray. name the time before election day. it was tucker carlson who pointed out it is fascinating all the focus is on ron santos, not the governor of texas, greg abbott, wonder why that is and what it reveals what this is about. rachel: there is a shadow campaign going on and this is what ron desantis's rapid response, a feisty one, i love her tweets but here's what she had to say. what i don't understand is

what more are the migrants accusing desantis of doing? >> reporter: essentially that this was a situation where these migrants, the suit says, lived a hellish live in venezuela and had an even more hellish journey from venezuela into the u.s. and desantis and other state officials designed and executed a premeditated fraudulent and illegal scheme to advance their own personal financial and political interests. to the degree that the suit says that they were trolling the streets at migrant shelters in san antonio, texas, looking for these individuals. individuals who were hungry, who needed assistance. they were offering them $10 mcdonald's gift certificate cards. and then the suit says they made false promises including that they would have everything from employment, housing, educational opportunities if they boarded that plane to what they thought was either new york city or boston. they had no idea they were going to land in martha's vineyard until shortly before that plane landed. the suit also makes the point that these are people wh

desantis could call them. it's a bipartisan group and they could coordinate this and say, listen, we're full, we can't handle anymore. you coordinate it. you do it in a way that's responsible and make sure your fellow governors and fellow officials can handle it. you ambush people by dumping human beings in front of a place where there's no services. that is a stunt. you're trying to make a point. you're not trying to solve a problem. so i think it's literally despicable what they're doing. >> what do you think about that, trying to make a point, not trying to solve a problem? isn't that what desantis did? he went to another state to get them to put them into a third state. >> erin, fair criticism. but what i would like to hear van say is that the biden administration has failed to do anything. the immigration czar, the vice president, has yet to visit the border. there's a border crisis in america. fentanyl is streaming across the border. people are dying in record numbers, and the administration has not gone

desantis wants to be president. in the current republican party that means obsessing over voter fraud on the left never the right, even if that means potentially ruining 20 peoples lives in the process. coming up next, i will discuss these new criminal charges with florida state representative and eskamani, in a slate magazines marker joseph stern. a lot to discuss. do not go away. do not go away wait 'till you hear this— thankfully, meta portal helps reduce background noise. zero lace model. adjusts to low light. and pans and zooms to keep you in frame. take a look at this. so the whole team stays on track. okay, let's get you some feedback. i'm impressed. great, loving your work. meta portal. the smart video calling device that makes work from home, work for you. so how many vaccines have you given to people? me? about 1000. walgreens...millions. ♪♪ i cannot miss her big debut. with your booster, i think you'll be there. for every twirl. i got a shot so my sister won't get sick. way to go, big bro! so while

governor ron desantis is not backing down. he's facing a class action lawsuit tonight after sending nearly 50 migrants to martha's vineyard. but, he does not seem bothered. in fact, he's threatening to keep it up. so much to discuss now. cnn senior political analysis ron brownstein. hello, ron. >> hello. >> on sunday, governor desantis received a standing of asian in kansas after sending 50 migrants to martha's vineyard. he has defended, even bragged about it. he's under very heavy criticism for the stunt. but i mean, it obviously got a lot of support in certain republican circles. >> yeah, look, the august part of the rationale for this is that in his personal interests, his political interest, to be seen as a fire in the trump mold. to be seen as someone who's willing to be outrageous and push beyond the boundaries in taking the fight to liberals, and you know, threatening liberal institutions, which he's done in a variety of ways in florida already. but i think -- stop there, because there is a substitute dynamic there as w

so to many democrats, especially, desantis is basically just a kidnapper in a flumpy suited. but over in maga record, desantis has been getting a hero's welcome. >> this weekend in kansas florida governor ron desantis received a standing ovation from republican voters. >> as stunts go this has been an incredibly brilliant stunt. >> obviously a boss move by desantis, i think this is brilliant. >> they need to do more. tomorrow martha's vineyard needs a hundred. the next day they need 200. the next day they need a thousand. martha's vineyard lost their mind. >> ron desantis is playing chess here, democrats and allies in the media are playing checkers. the hypocrisy is out in the open. >> this is amazing. this is check mate. >> trevor: ooh, check mate, yeah. i like how republicans are like no, no, we're not using imgrafnts as pawn but also check mate. as you can see, conservatives are just [bleep]-- [bleep] their paints over this, it was brilliant, a boss move, question queen. martha's vineyard lost their mind. and by the way, did it really, did it? did martha's vineyard lose it

how is it that governor desantis is taking responsibility this? >> well, is the bizarre sort of turn. governor desantis has been very open and supportive of venezuelan immigrants because he does not like the government there. it is a very hard-core socialist communist government that he does not like there. so he has really held them in high regard. these particular venezuelans, though, were not in florida. they were in texas. it sounds as though he paid -- arranged and paid for the planes to bring them to martha's vineyard. the planes did stop along the way. but everyone we spoke to, we spoke to diseases of them between ourselves and our cnn espanol crew that was here. we spoke to dozens of immigrants here today, and they all say they were all venezuelans. they were all in texas. that nobody got on, nobody got off the planes in other stops they made. and when they landed here in martha's vineyard, they literally had no clue where they were, and many of them were just -- they were blown away. one guy said oh, it's so beautiful. it's gorgeous. and

much like it is en route governor ron desantis. because look community rallied around these families who arrived in cape cod. as the historian put it, the white conservatives who are behind that campaign then actually underestimated that decency of many ordinary people. and we are seeing the same very thing today and martha's vineyard. restaurant, students, people all over volunteering to help those in need. it is an important reminder never ever underestimate the decency of ordinary people. and without decency? you have nothing. and on that note, i wish

there is now a class action suit against desantis for this stunt. the florida governor is defending himself with this waiver, the migrants signed. hey, they volunteered. but as you can see, it's only partially translated into spanish. the part mentioning massachusetts is only in english. what is more, and get this. as the post reports, jose and others signed a waiver under less than ethical circumstances, it appears. quote, perla offered migrants ten dollar mcdonald's gift cards, if they signed the waivers. so, desperate people who don't know where their next meal is coming from, unknowingly signing with the right to recourse, in exchange for fast food. that is the consent desantis is waving around in defending himself. ron desantis has actually bragged to donors about the stunt, days before it happened, telling them, quote, maybe we will go to texas and help, maybe we'll send to chicago, hollywood, martha's vineyard, who knows? desantis's stunt was actually called something of a rift among fellow republicans, it's not because of cruelty, but becaus

governor desantis: ok. any questions. reporter: i know it's early to tell but do you know the cost in florida and st. augustine? governor desantis: no. i think that will take some time. i will tell you in our preparations with everything we did to prepare from the state was hundreds of millions of dollars. we did $300 million. we knew this was going to be an issue. declared the state of emergency and got in. we were able to do that and that has helped with the response tremendously. you remember i proposed a couple years ago and the legislature did to have a fund in state government for disaster response. and so we have $500 million that we earmark every year. so this is the first time. unfortunately, we're having to tap it. but that money was there, ready to go. now that fema -- now that the administration has given us the 30 days, a lot of that's going to be reimbursement. and -- reimbursable. so a lot what the local governments have done and local communities, those 31st days will be 100% reimbursable by the federal go

and governor desantis is leading the fight. this is not partisan. >> carley: i heard they actually did speak and then governor desantis said that he is thankful that the president approved an emergency declaration in florida and said federal aid will be made available, how much will that help florida? this is supposed to be a once in a lifetime storm. >> i am glad they finally reached out, when we saw the article from bloomberg, we were upset. open line to communication is important. these hurricanes can move quickly, i think we will likely need national help with recovery efforts. right now our entire community is locked down, you can go down the street and see people who have businesss and residents boarded up. we are concerned for our neighbors, prayers are appreciated right now. >> todd: please stay safe, best of luke to the constituents you hope to represent. >> carley: a 14-year-old boy is dead and severalen toos hurt after they were ambushed by a gunman at their high school football scrimmage. details on that next. >> to

you can already see it with desantis. they are already saying trump was hitler and somehow desantis is worse than hitler. that's what they are going to do. it doesn't matter who the nominee is. they are going to get attacked. this is just desantis getting in on the act early. and i give him a lot of credit for the move. , which by the way, was initially trump's idea. they talked about doing this when trump was in office. desantis actually acted on if. >> jesse: i have been talking about it for years. i want the credit. interesting they are suing both republican presidential candidates. run for president get hit with a blizzard of lawsuits. i don't know, i don't know what's coming next. but it's going to be fun to watch. clay travis, i don't think they have a chance with the lawsuit. someone gives me a mcdonald's gift card. >> you and i are going to get named as defendants before long, jesse, if this thing continues. >> jesse: i don't know if you heard i'm going to switch parties and primary joe biden on the democratic tic

>> the border czar refusing to respond to desantis's shot across the bow. governor abbott with this just a moment ago. >> we have small communities of about 25,000 people who have thousands of illegal immigrants dumped into their community and so they were begging for relief. plus we have a president who has refused to go see the chaos he has created on the border and a border czar who has refused to see what's going ong at the border. if they won't go to the border we're taking the border to them. >> bill melugin is live at the border in eagle pass, texas. bill. >> good morning to you. i can tell you there are folks here in texas who are rolling their eyes at the idea of martha's vineyard being overwhelmed by the arrival of just 50 migrants. i can tell you we have already seen well over 500 illegal crossings this morning in just a couple of hours so far. the day is still young here in eagle pass. we'll show you some of what we've seen. take a look. this is the brand-new fox news nighttime flying drone with thermal imaging capabilities. we're debuting it to

governor desantis is the villian. aoc accused desantis of crimes against humanity. and he called ron desantis morally reprehensible and newsom forgot about his own bussing program as mayor of san francisco when he shipped homeless people across the country. they are mad ron desantis located them to their plush community and mad that texas's governor is locating immigrants to outside of kamala harris's mansion in washington, d.c. in a tweet from nbc news one activist said: mayor eric adams said new york city is overwhelmed with 2,000 migrants but el paso gets 2,000 a day. mayor laurie lightfoot is beg begging people to help with the immigrants. she is bussing the people out of the city and that means they will be safety. and washington, d.c. mayor bowser declared a state of emergency and called in the national guard and demands $50-million from joe biden and the federal government. take a look. >> we are not a border town. we don't have the infrastructure to handle this type of level of immigration to our city. we will create a new normal here in our infrastructure a

is biden going to fly to florida, try to hug ron desantis, and should ron desantis hug him back? >> look, it's appropriate. the federal government has responsibilities under the law. people like having the president come in an aftermath of something like this. look, what i think governor desantis is keep the politics out of this. he's completely focused on doing his job. if the president comes to visit, he should welcome him, thank him for his assistance. i'm absolutely confident he will. and remember, if you step back from this, the only politics about this is if you're up to the job. if you're the mayor of new orleans, and you don't seem to be up to the job after katrina, the voters respond. if you're the governor of florida, like jeb bush, and those before and after him, governor scott who seemed to be in charge of these things, doing the right thing, they're rewarded by the people of their state, because that's what they want a governor to do, to be in charge of something like this when the moment comes. >> jesse: do you think if ron desantis renamed florida ukraine joe biden

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i get that reporters hate ron desantis. they hate that he's very effective. >> laura: they despise him. >> at pushing back against them and other people on the left but the reasonen he's so popular isn't just because he pushes back and other crazy nest of the left it's because he's a good din straighter. when people go there whether they're republican and democrat they praise how he kept the state open during covid how he's friendly to the businesses. they like his policies, not just because he's conservative. >> laura: in the end government is supposed to would being for the people not conspiring against the people and we see that happening in varying states across the country but florida is really a shining example along with texas and tennessee and south dakota and iowa. they're state that are actually run well. >> yeah, at he we the people, not we the government. we the people elect folks to make decisions, not the bureaucrats like fauci who think he's smarter than everyone else speaking of covid. great leaders understa

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it has not been honored by the desantis administration. many counties meaning counties would probably have to sue -- there's been a problem of stonewalling by desantis's administration. but if you also look at at it from the perspective, the more this is talked about in desantis world, the more they think they are winning on it. and maybe they are, right maybe they're wrong. but it is sitting on a huge problem. and if you look at the polling, immigration generally favors republicans when it comes to public opinion. so, as i said, it's too early now to really tell. we are in a polarized state, and a polarized society. so, i would wait to see on prognosticating of the exact effects. >> i will say, desantis is crowing about this on fox news, and as you said, republicans everywhere are saying that this is a great move by him. but the fact is, let's start with the facts -- vertol systems took its website down. do we think that's indicative of anything? they've been forthcoming with information as reporters have been asking for it? >> oh, gosh,

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desantis: they don't want to have to pay any type of cost on this. and don't forget, this is an island that advertised to be sanctuary. and they said they didn't have the resources to keep to take 50. well, just imagine how all these other places across our country are having to be do. geoff: so what do you make of that argument? oren: first of all, the idea that this is a conversation that can be started by this kind of political stunt that treats individuals as objects, as political props, is wrong. if we're going to have this conversation about immigration and immigration reform in this country, it has to start from a place of humanity, of recognizing that people are people and that they're the lived experiences of our clients have to be front and center. but in terms of the actual reception to the migrants when they arrived on martha's vineyard, there was an outpouring of support from the island community and from the commonwealth of massachusetts in general. we here in ts state value people and treat them with the dignity and respect that they d

today, governor desantis defended his actions. we are not a sanctuary state, and it is better to be able to go to a sanctuary jurisdiction. yes, we will help facilitate that transport for you to be able to go to greener pastures. >> critics call it a stunt. we should point out that last month, 1. 8 million arrests, apprehensions or encounters on the southern border who supported -- that's according to customs and border protection, an increase from the last fiscal year. this one is not over yet. the move from desantis nearest districts that texas governor greg abbott began months ago, sending migrants to two other areas mostly populated by democratic voters, new york city in the nation's capital. today, at least two more buses arrived in washington d. c., this time outside the u.s. naval observatory, the residence of vice president kamala harris. it comes after she made comments at the southern border was, quote, secure. so far as the florida charts flights go, you may be wondering, why martha vineyards? obviously, it's a lot of v

what is desantis trying to accomplish here? is cruelty the point, is getting his face on conservative media or voice, is that the point? what is it? >> i think that is the point. this is a political stunt. but he's also trying to make a point. there is a real problem at the southern border. i'm not saying so much in florida but certainly in texas and the other border states with mexico. i believe federal agents have apprehended nearly 2 million people this year. >> charlie, can i jump in here. i think you make a very good point. no one should deny there's an issue at the southern border. the question is, how do you fix it? is this the right way to fix it. i'm all about -- and i spoke to congressman allred last night. there should be a shared burden. it shouldn't just be the states on the southern border who are dealing with this. but what is the right way to fix this rather than making this a political point or ploy or scheme or scam that they're doing? >> what i would do if i were president biden right now, i would keen a meet

>> the joke was on them, much like it is on desantis. because the community rallied around these families arrived on cape cod. it's historian called it, the conservatives behind the campaign actually underestimated the decency of many ordinary people. we are seeing the very same thing today in martha's vineyard. restaurants, students, people all over volunteering to help those in need. important to mind, never underestimate the decency of ordinary people. without decency, you have nothing. and on that note, i wish you all a very good night. from all of our colleagues across the next event bc news, thank you for staying up late, i will see that the end of tomorrow. tomorrow >> tonight, on all in -- >> the fbi came after me, they took my phone, they surrounded me at a hardee's. >> a drive-through rendezvous with justice. >> they started asking me these questions about colorado, about dominion machines, colorado with tina peters. >> tonight, the criminal case between mike pillow search warrant and how the election threat is only growing. th

you know, governor desantis has spoken about the repression in venezuela. they are fleeing that repression. they've come here looking to take advantage of their asylum status, and that is what they are now on track to do. >> miguel marquez, appreciate it. speaking on this to the governor of massachusetts. what do you think of governor desantis sending migrants to martha's vineyard, and what is your reaction to how the people on the vineyard and cape have responded? >> on the first question, anderson, i think probably my reaction is like most americans from either party and no party at all. we don't think -- most of us don't think it is right to treat human people -- to treat human beings as cargo, to treat them as props in a political stunt. it's wrong. these are folks who have come to this country seeking asylum, which is a legal process, by the way. it is not an illegal entry. and the governor of florida has apparently gone out of his way using what money, whose money i don't know, but to charter a flight to go to texas to bring folks to martha's vineyard

desantis mused to donors last year about mr. abbott's good political fortune to share 1,254 miles of board we are mexico and claimed he didn't have the same to use as a backdrop. joining me now is florida state senator jason pizzo. he filed that sought against the deposit of transportation and other defendants. tell us more about your lawsuit. and frankly, why ron desantis has a very serious problem with his legal defense. >> thank you for having me, katie. ours is very simple, actuallile . a law that just recently passed effectively said that only unauthorized aliens from the state, the state being florida. when you go and reach into another state and put people up in motels and pay for food and even haircuts and give them a nice information pact on their connecting flight to martha's vineyard, you are flouting the law that was just passed by your party that basically says $12 million allotted for this can only be use in the florida. and this is the ultimate checks and balance. the passionate emotion, the inhumane treatment, al

steve, governor desantis has big political ambitions. every move he makes seems to be carefully calculated and thought out. what does he gain from this. >> reporter: this wasn't something he hatched overnight but has been quite publicly plotting this in the public eye for months now. he has threatened to ship migrants to anywhere that might give democrats harbor and martha's vineyard and even said the president's home state of delaware. so policywise this is something he has said for awhile. politically this checks a lot of boxes for him. it gets his base really excited. it's an issue they care about. it causes a lot of anguish and outrage among democrats which scores a lot of points in today's republican party. and, you know, it gets media coverage. that is a formula he has used time and time again to get at the forefront of these issues that are most animating gop voters. >> so some gop voters in florida are venezuelan americans. that's kind of like a growing force in florida politics as i don't need to tell you. a lot of these migrant

this is a political topic noted this week that desantis would gladly set himself on fire. trump off a tall, building drive -- off a cliff and write a barrel over a waterfall, boy would see it through a narrow mathew gabbard dance jojo polak estimated mad max if he senses even a smidgen of political gain in return. congressman, is this kind of political field i think is just a standard operating procedure for the gop at this point really going to help them come november? >> well, i don't know if it will help but i suspect it might help with their base, for sure. and that is part of getting the nomination. i have served on the judiciary committee with ron desantis which i think was about six years. i'm not sure how long it was in the house. he decided he wanted to be, governor until then he forced donald to get his support. i never knew he was all the sudden he started talking about being in the committee and i had to turn some of my colleagues and, say who is that guy, who is that max man. and they said oh he's running for governor. he went from -- of those guys who sat the

and then desantis was denying it. and what this brochure shows is that they were promised a whole laundry list of benefits, if they were to board this flight. these were the promises made to try to get people onto the flight. and this is a brochure that's listing benefits that are available to an entirely different category of refugees. they do not qualify for any of these benefits or it really is documentary proof, not just desantis says one thing, the folks who are on the plane say another thing. we may never know the truth. we know the truth because it's written down here on paper, and here's what these migrants were told falsely that they would receive upon landing. >> and just to stay with you for a moment. do you have any idea why the plane that took off again today and this company that's getting a lot of florida taxpayer dollars to do this, that's going to texas and taking people, was empty today when it landed in new jersey? >> we don't know. we know that it was scheduled to land at a small airport very close

but somehow, some way, governor ron desantis of florida did not. joining us now is susan church, she is an attorney in massachusetts who has on the day today with some of the venezuelan migrants who have been victims of governor desantis's plan. this mrs. church, thank you so much for joining us tonight. >> thank you so much for having me. >> so, can you tell us what the current status of this migrants is? where they are, what resources are being allocated to them, and what their state of mind is? >> so, they have been moved from martha's vineyard to the otis air force base. they were a little scared to get on the bus today after what had already happened to them with governor desantis. but with the help of some immigration lawyers who are on the team, they were convinced to go. they were voluntarily. they were really confused, and they don't know why this has happened to them. i read reports, and have talked to many of these individuals, and they are just wondering why the world is doing this to them. really, why the governor of florida is doing t

inside of the governor's office, i see ron desantis on that list. he was a back benture tea party congressman. he was a tea partier. you have people like greg abbott, terry mitchells, doug mastriano who is a christian nationalist. you go to the senate side, you have marco rubio who was a normal ordinary republican who then decided to jump on the bandwagon of what, the tea party. he became a tea partier. got on the cover of "time" magazine as the future of the tea party. you're seeing the republican party has willingly evolved into this. lindsey graham, all the rest, they're doing this knowing what it is. >> yeah, absolutely. you know, the tea party kind of subsided for a while when fox news stopped promoting it for a couple years but the sentiment never went away. the tea party basically faded from view right around the same time that trump embraced birtherism, and you know, the whole norman vincent peale think, trump sees himself as the master salesman, but we know he's a huckster, a conman, but that's his sense, and he knows what sells. and he pro

, is controlled by desantis. desantis itself has not gotten any money from it. in reading of the reports, and talking to the reporters for migrants, they appear to have hired other folks on the ground, we don't know who they are, in san antonio, to go recruit various migrants. somewhere, apparently, found homeless, or living in a parking lot near mcdonald's, or an alleyway near mcdonald's. they gave folks food vouchers, they gave them a place to stay, they said, you are going somewhere great, martha's vineyard, or the boston area, we are not clear on what exactly was promised an,. the rest is history. that was the wednesday before last. then, this tuesday, they were trying to do the same thing. miami herald, did a good job reporting, the night before, the morning of the flight that, was planned for delaware, that got canceled. yet, desantis folks did not tell the rest of the press, on tuesday, desantis, when asked, are you guys flying to delaware he said, i cannot confirm that. by then, he will knew, it had been

ron desantis did not. >> scott, i want you to get in here. desantis is using taxpayer dollars to send them from texas to martha's vineyard because he said many people that s krcross border end up in his state. >> they've been in texas identifying people trying to come to florida and offering them free transportation to sanctuary jurisdictions so they went from texas to florida to martha's vineyard. >> so scott, talk to me. how is it a good idea to take people from one state and send them to another when neither of those states are florida? why is he seeking them out and then getting involved in this? respond to what bar rkari said? >> i'll take your second part first. he's getting involved for two reasons. i heard from a lot of republicans squarely behind what desantis and abbott are doing. he's responding to a republican uprising trying to draw attention to the crisis that is the united states southern border. that's number one. two, there is clearly a political component. judging from what i heard today, he judged that correctly. responding

my favorite trump and desantis. >> greg: what do you make of this because they see desantis a bigger threat now? >> sonnie: actually i think it's just because they're right. desantis knows how to use the levers of government in a way that trump did not and this is one of the biggest problems with trump when he came in, it was like he had to hit the learning curve. like he had to go in and figure out how to do things. he didn't know where he needed people. he didn't know how to get -- like we're looking at the immigration issue, right? i hope you're not counting on republicans to come and save you because they're not going to do it. if we remember when trump came in, who was trump fighting to get the wall built? republicans. they wouldn't give him the money. he had to go and look at the defense department and look at all these different areas trying to scrape up the money. now when desantis, if desantis were to become president, do you think he's going to have to do that or he's going to come in with a plan knowing how to do it knowing where to put people strategically in place to mak

now, in comparison, desantis does look like a better bet. but i gotta say, i don't think desantis is proving himself to be once in a generation political talent. he has won one statewide election, currently leading the polls for reelection, in florida, a state that has not elected a democratic governor in 30 years. i'm not quite convinced that this kind of constant cultural war trolling is as broadly popular with voters at large, non-fox viewers, as lots of people in the professional political class believe. what fernand amandi is a veteran democratic strategy and bolster based in miami. he joins me now. fernand first, i'm curious how this is all filtering through florida media and foreign politics, particularly given the state has so many folks, you know, from cuba and venezuela, who have made their own treacherous journeys away from regimes they view as tyrannical, which is what these venezuelans, you know, flown to martha's vineyard or doing, and how that played out there. >> well, chris, first off, this conversation we are having tonight

maria: gavin newsom wants to debate ron desantis for this very reason. he sees him as the candidate and he's obviously eyeing the white house, the democrats do not have a bench. mark, what do you think about that? we should throw the idea that joe biden is casting doubt on his future in the white house. we haven't heard this before but this is what we heard in 60 minutes. >> you said it's much too early to make the decision, i take it the decision has not been made in your own head. >> my intentions is to run again. it's just an intention. is it a firm decision that i'd run again, that remains to be seen. maria: first it was firm and now not firm. governor gavin newsom prepare to go seek the democrat nomination if biden does not go forward, mark, your reaction? >> it seems, you know, day by day seems less likely that president biden will be running again from his remain to be seen comment to kamala's comment, yes, he will run, i will be his running mate probably, leads me to believe it's not going to happen. maria: don't forget all of his mental issues h

desantis says he is out for 15 minutes of fame. >> ashley: democrat commissioner of palm beach county says he is endorsing ron desantis or charlie crist. >> it may come as a shock to many of you or my friends that as democratic elected officer i'm endorsing a republican governor. i will not remain silents, there is too much on the line in this election. we are a state on the rise and i give credit to our governor. >> carley: the man in the video is palm beach county commissioner, good morning to you, you're a long-time democrat, why did you decide to go against your party and endorse governor desantis? >> good morning, ashley and carley. yeah, been registered democrat since the age of 18, don't see it going against my party, i'm an american and floridian 1st. i support law endorsement, his management of the covid-19 issues, whole list of reasons i endorse him. >> ashley: what has the response been? anybody saying i'm registered democrat, i can't take this going against police and safety for people is very high on the list when it comes to voting right now. >> there has been a lot of t

do you understand what governor desantis is doing? >> yes, i do. he's playing politics with people's lives. he's playing politics with people's lives like governor george wallace did during segregation. if you want governor george wallace's legacy to be the future of the republican party, then that's exactly what ron desantis is showing all of america today. now, that didn't stop ron desantis from coming to these same massachusetts islands a month ago. he was on nantucket a month ago to fund raise for his own political campaigns. what's going on here is pure politics and it's disgraceful. >> let's look at it for a solution. if we just look at texas's point of view for a moment, they're saying they're overwhelmed. according to u.s. border patrol, they have 1.9 million encounters a year, this past year, just to date with migrants. somewhere roughly about 200,000 a month. the majority of those are in texas. and that's compared to massachusetts, which has, according to the governor's website, they've welcomed 1,000 migrants per year. so is it fair for

donald trump and ron desantis. trump's house gets raided because a librarian got mad and desantis is under investigation for giving a few migrants a free vacation. comedian adam carolla is the author of "everything reminds me of something. " and he joins me now. i mean, this has gotten crazy. what do you think, adam? >> well, it's great publicity because finally people are talking about it because all they covered at the border is horseback, border guards whipping haitian people refugees. that's all they had. so finally we are getting some news coverage. by the way, that sheriff who goes i don't know if this is against the law, i don't know if it's any state or federal statute. but i know it's wrong. is that how the law works. i think balding guys who have ponytails are wrong but i don't want to incarcerate them. >> jesse: that's a federal code 32 u.s. c is that when a balding sheriff in texas county feels something is wrong, i mean, that's 3 to 5 years in federal prison. >> yes, it is the -- it's the opposite of l

>> governor ron desantis should be handed a medal. he is balling and showing the hypocrisy in the democratic administration. reality we got complaints about the airlines and how terrible they are, not gotten one single complaint about flights to delaware or new york city, martha's vineyard. what happened the east coast elites first time whether new york or new england they started seeing local coverage of the immigration crisis because they had to deal with 50 or 100 illegal immigrants. border states, texas, arizona, even florida, we've been dealing with this for years. you've been talking about this for years, liz. record amount of fentanyl flowing into this country and i wish kamala harris and joe biden were worried more about gas prices, soaring cost of groceries than they were about ron desantis's soaring popularity. elizabeth: to what mark has been saying, border states, taxpayers are footing the bill for biden's border collapse. arrests at the southern bored exceed two million since biden was elected. that is 19 months. already

but certainly we did not get word from governor desantis. again this is a political stunt but we've been in close contact with the delaware government. >> we don't know who the white house got alerted -- >> i specifics on where, on who alerted us. i can tell he will been in close contact with the delaware officials on the ground. >> did the white house ever try to get in touch with the governor desantis or governor abbott about this to try to reach some type of understanding or -- >> there's a understand to be reached. they are using people who are leaving a time in his country as political stunt. instead of maybe what they should do is call on the senators in their state, call on, you know, senator marco rubio. ask senator rick scott why is it they did not vote for historic funding when it comes to department of homeland security, making sure we're dealing with this issue. that's not what they did. this is again a political stunt that they are taking for their own, for the own political narrative. it is not about really dealing with what is